Thanks for this how to video. Was having a hard time figuring out where the splines go but watching this video shows it all. Again very informative video, cheers.
I had a fair amount of trouble following along due to the lighting and the resolution. You should probably remake this with 720 and 1080p options available and bit more light to allow all those transparent pieces to show up a bit more. Never seen this style connector before. Interesting video, thanks.
+Jonathan Wolff Jonathan yes I know the video and audio pretty much suck. I made that video before I had better equipment. Funny you sent a note it is on my list to reshoot as the new plugs are slightly different. I appreciate the comment. Ron
I learned a lot from this video. The way to improve this video, is terminate both ends of the CAT 6 cable and test it to the termination was successful.
Hello these are RJ-45 8 pin connectors so just buy a plug for the four pin style RJ-11 connecotors. I am not sure how it should be wired for your application though have fu Ron
Excellent video. I have a bunch of solid cat6 plenum rated lying around from when I wired my house and it seems like it is even harder to terminate. Plenum is usually terminated in a punch-down block so it might not work, but do you have experience doing this with plenum cable? I can't verify, but the solid conductors have what I believe to be thicker & stiffer insulation. It is very hard to get everything straight and flat. The twist memory is strong.
I terminated cat 6 that only had nylon into cat5e one piece connector and didn't strip the pairs 2mm just crimped them. Is this okay it works on one run but the other doesn't.
Another good demo. I happened to have the same 3 piece Ideal plugs (from Lowe's) as well as some Monoprice plugs which didn't have the sled and which had the wires slightly offset on the vertical plane in the liner. For whatever reason I made twice as many bad cables with the Monoprice plugs as the Ideals when practicing. Same cable, same ratcheting Klein crimp tool, but I kept making bad cables with the Monoprice ones. Not sure if it was the magic sled or just bad luck. Eventually I could consistently make solid cables with the Monoprice plugs, but it took a lot more focus to keep everything perfect before I crimped.
Ben Roberts These 3 piece plugs can drive you crazy the first time you make one up. However they take a lot of "user error" out of the equation. You have to use all the parts correctly and it will make a great Cat 6 connection.
+Ben Roberts agree. i've made thousands of cat5/5e's without fail. did the same thing with this new cat6 + insert and it fails even though observation it looks perfect. no clue. hence another youtube tutorial. ;) round 2..
pictureBigger These Ideal plugs in the video actually were pretty reliable for me, it was the Monoprice ones without the sled, just the wedge insert that I had a hard time with, though I eventually got those consistent as well.
Hey thanks that video is getting a little old as we do have a one piece Cat 6 design and a feed-thru version too. The RJ-45 design is such a simple thing yet here we are still using it! Ron
Ron, checked out your video to make sure I was terminating correctly. I am working with shielded cat6 wire and plugs. Near the end when the assembly is pushed into the plug, I am unable to get the outer casing into the plug for the strain relief to grab it. I have tried two solutions. One, I slice the outer casing until it is thin enough to be pushed into the plug. This takes a long time. Second solution, I trim the outer shield so it does not need to enter the plug, then I use electrical tape to wrap the twisted pairs that will be under the strain relief. I am curious to know if you have experienced this issue? Great video and I will have to try that angle cut as you suggested.
wnleon Thanks for watching. I have not tried to make a shielded plug. Who's connectors are you using I might give it a try.You might be better off just buying the patchcords.Take CareRon
Please zoom in to show some of the details you refer to such as how the block slides in fully against.... and see how the wire ends are flush against.... At this resolution and zoom level we cannot see what you are referring to. Otherwise very clear and concise instructions. Thanks.
i saw 3 parts earlier in the video. 2 parts are supposed to go on before the jack end. Yet at the end i only saw you slide on the liner. Were you holding the other 2 parts together as they went on ?
hi Ron, I am looking at the website, and it has 2 kinds of modular plugs; stranded and Solid. could you please tell me the difference between stranded and solid modular plugs
+Smart Investor Hey good to hear from you. I cover that is this video.th-cam.com/video/xmU4mwypzOI/w-d-xo.html&feature=player_detailpage#t=155A plug rated for solid wire can be used on solid or stranded wire while a plug rated for stranded usually can only be used on stranded. The difference is the pins solid has 3 teeth and stranded usually just 2.hope that helpsRon
beckon&muse No I do not recognize that number not one of ours. That was a 30-496 TeleMaster or you could look up the 30-696 Ratcheting Telemaster. The plugs should work with about anyone's crimper.Take CareRon
Glen Howard Glen good to hear from you. These are 3 piece Cat 6 plugs we sell at IDEAL. You can find them at a local electrical supply house or at Home Depot or Lowes. By making them 3 parts we take a lot of user error out of making a good connection. I tell guys to never put the first one on in front of a customer...................takes a little practice.Ron
Are you aware if the design of the "liner device" has changed since this video was made? Today, I picked up a box of the IDEAL CAT 6 connectors as shown in this video from Home Depot. The "sled" is the same, however, the liner device is different. The wires can no longer pass right through the liner device. The wires all butt up against solid plastic. In the video, the wires passed right though, and then were neatly trimmed off to suit. (A superior way to go). Now, I had to estimate the exact length of wires based on the length of the "liner device, then insert until fully home. There is nothing to trim off, because the wires do not pass through. It makes it more difficult imho. Also, can you recommend a way to test the wiring once done. I'm just using speedtest.net and comparing hard wired results to wireless results (i.e. for speed) The download speeds are doubled by hard wiring, but upload is the same. (Which seems to agree if I'm wireless and right beside the modem, the download speeds are double when compared to the rest of the building, however, the upload speeds remain the same.
+Doug Webb Doug yes I know we changed the connector. That old video gets a lot of views and I added two annotations that play throughout the video that will take you to a short or long version of a video showing the new design. Did you not see them? The reason we made the change people were not trimming the conductors flush with the end of the second part and when it was inserted in the body the pins would not line up with the slots in that second part. The new design helps prevent that problem. I thought the same thing the first one I did and after making a few and understanding why we made the change I don't mind the new design. A little practice goes a long way.As far as testing the wire we do sell very expensive testers that can test the cable to the Cat5e or Cat 6 spec. Keep in mind they support 1000 mbps or Gigabit Ethernet. The speeds your getting from your service provider are probably not close to that. If the cable your using has good continuity between both ends it will not slow down what you are getting from the provider. Wireless is as you say open to more interference that may slow things down.Thanks for the comment. Ron
+Ron Kipper Datacomm Thanks for getting back Ron, I really appreciate that. My bad. I didn't see the links to the newer videos (but I do now, they are there - top right of the screen). I watched your video about 20 times, pausing it as I went, figuring it out. Last night was the first time I had ever wired up an RJ45 connector in my life. I figured that when the wires would not pass through the liner that the design had changed. The new video also has a LOT better light too! I've got a pile of connections to make and last night was just the first one. But the cable does appear to be working. My internet provider is Bell Canada and the speed is supposed to be 50 Meg. My modem is in the basement, so as you go up through the house, the wife speed drops off hugely so. I much prefer hard wired for everything (TV, Security, phone, internet). It's just better. As part of a major home reno, I'm running CAT6, security, voice, and RG6 home-runs everywhere throughout the house. If I'm standing right beside the modem using wifi, I do get speeds of 60 meg (more than promised), but if I go up a floor, it drops to 35. Up another floor and it drops to 25) My PC seems to be able to function OK, but my wife's Macbook really really suffers when wireless. So last night after successfully wiring my first CAT6 run, I plugged in my laptop and speed went from 35 wireless to 60 when hardwired. So I believe it's working. The video is great, thanks again for your help. Cheers
+Doug Webb Doug can you move the wireless router to the first floor? Or add a wireless access point to each floor. That would solve your wireless speed drop off throughout the house. It can be fixed and I appreciate the feedback. Ron
Ron, thanks again for the great video. One question though. On the sled with openings to and bottom, one side is slightly beveled on the two sides(squares) towards the middle. Does it matter if that is facing the jacket or the terminating end?
Dave2791 Dave good to hear from you. Noit does not seem to matter which end is put on first with the sled. I have had people ask before and I have done it both ways and it seem to work either way.take CareRon
Could I use the same one piece RJ45 connectors that I've been using when I terminate CAT5e, or do you have to use the 3 piece connectors? Thanks for making this Video, Tom
WVURaven Tom yes you could and would it support 1000BaseT ethernet. Probably. It may not pass a certification test but I'm pretty sure it would work. We would normally tell people not to do that as the system is rated by it weakest link. Thanks for watching
My "liner device" stops at the tips of the cable, the individual strands do not push through like yours. But it looks the same, am I doing something wrong?
+Eric “XgamerericX” Hansen Eric if you are using our connector the wires should go all the way through and the liner should slide down and touch the 1st part of the connector. Who's plugs do you haveThanks for watching.Ron
Hi Ron, I've begun to redo the cabling at my office.. If my cable jacket is not in the rj45 connector, should I cut the wire and redo the connector, or can I leave it as is?
Hi Ben as long as the connections are still good you should be alright Ethernet is pretty robust. However if you want to make it right putting on the connectors aren't that bad. Ron
when I was practicing the method on a piece of scrap cable, I did the same thing and crimped down onto the wires instead of the jacket and it worked fine. But yeah the goal is definitely to get that triangle piece in the sheath to crimp down onto the jacket.
Ron my southwire 23g CAT6 wires don't fit through the liner device. I even tried one single untwisted wire scrap piece as a test but no luck. I don't care about cert so I might go back to cat5e one piece plug. But will those support 350MHz? Thanks. UPDATE: I just watched your other video ("long video") and there you show liner bottoms out and wires don't pass through? Which is correct?
Anthony if you are using the cable for Gigabit Ethernet I'm pretty sure the Cat 5e plugs will work. I'm not sure if it supports 350 MHz though. The new plug design the wire must be trimmed and then the liner goes on and the wires do not pass through like the older design. Hope that helps. Ron
Hi Ron, the slider I have to line up the wires in the connector doesn't have the ability to push the pins all the way through. Thoughts on that? An angled cut won't work for that as you've depicted in this video. I'm guessing I would just have to cut them flush and at the proper length before inserting into the slider.
Timothy Pool Tim I will bet your conductors are not straight enough! Cat 6 is really tested and you need to get all the little twists and kinks out before installing them in the slider. Then trim the conductors flush with the end and insert that assembly in the body and make sure to fully insert the assembly. If you need more help send me an email ron.kipper@idealindustries.com
***** Hi Ron, its not that I am unable or doing it improperly, its that the slider makes it physically impossible to slide the wires all the way through as its only open on one side (the side you stick the wires through). I've been able to terminate the lines if I cut them really short before sticking them in the slider - just wish I had sliders like how you have where you can slide the wires all the way through it.
Tim are you saying the slider only has an opening on one end and the wires cannot slide all the way through. call my cell maybe I -can help 815-341-3537
I am actually having this EXACT issue with cat 6 cable load bars that came with a Shaxon home networking kit (1000' of cable, crimping tool, RJ-45 jacks, etc.). I haven't been able to push the conductors through the load bar because only one side is open. Were y'all able to figure this out? Geoff
Geoffrey Garber Man I tried to look at what the plugs look like when I search for that kit. It looks like they are one piece not three pieces like our Cat 6 plugs. I assume you put them on the same as a Cat 5e plug. You mention the load bar but I did not see one. Sorry I was not much help just never have seen the connector. Good luck Ron
What about the CAT6 specs of only 3/16" from the jacket to tip of the connector? That part you called the sled prevents one from one from ever getting to that 3/16" dimension. EDIT: Platinum Tools video mentions that 3/16" but all I've read shows 1/2" as you mentioned.
***** Correct, I asked them where that came from but they haven't responded to a post since that video was posted in 2012 so I don't expect one either.
William Turczynski If you are using the cable for Gigabit Ethernet you will find you can untwist quite a bit and it will still work. It may not pass a certification test........................but it work for Ethernet.Ron
It is funny people either love or hate the three piece Cat 6 plug. Me personnally I would use a one piece standard Cat 6 plug. The feed-thru are nice if you are new to installing plugs on cable and some folks don't like the fact the conductors are exposed at the end. Either way you go should work Ron
I tried the non pass thro ones (one piece) and it wasn't as hard as i expected to push the cores in. I think its because i bought the staggered rj45 plugs. I've not tried the pass through ones so i haven't got anything to compare with. Thanks for your feedback
why aren't you explaining the color sequence .. how does this help when I'm looking for a sequence ? It's a nice video for Crimping but that about it ... keep up the videos
I will be having some Cat6 cables run for my AV install. The installer initially wanted to install 5e but I am telling them I want cat 6. Question is: how can I tell if it is 5e or 6 cable?
Bob Mack Bob good to hear from you. You can tell what kind of cable they are installing by looking at the cable itself. Every 2 feet it will be labeled and will tell you what kind of cable it is. So just pick up one end of the cable and look at the printing.Good Luck Ron
***** Thank you very much. Next question. Of course I would want cat 6 connectors on the ends but the installers say to themselves, "dang, we don't have any cat 6 connectors, lets just use cat 5e...he will never know the difference". Can cat 5e connectors fit on a cat 6 cable...how would I be able to tell?
Bob yes you can put Cat 5e plugs on a Cat 6 cable and it will probably work for basic Ethernet. It may not pass a certification test which is the only way to know for sure that the cable is still Cat 6 rated. For inwall installations usually a jack is used at the wall outlet and it should say on it what it is rated for. Good luck Ron
***** Thanks Bob..They have looked where my DSL is coming from (jack in bedroom) and I believe that they will be going from the nearby modem to the gigabit switch.
Bob Mack Cat 6 is always a little more money so he should have no trouble putting it in as he will make a little more as well. The Cat 5e would be OK but as I tell people Cat 6 will take you further into the future. I had a guy reply he only would use Cat 7 which is in Europe and a shielded cable that is about $800 a box. That is way over kill..............
i looked up these cat6 connectors on ebay and 99% do not have any type of insert or anything, just the clear connectors. so i have to have the insert right? i dont know why they sell it without the insert or slide
+Robots4Sale You can find Cat 6 plugs that bare not 3 parts. We use 3 parts connectors to get better performance consistently when marking the plugs. Cat 6 is about 12 times better in reducing noise so the plugs must be better too. They are not bad after making a few. good to hear from you. Ron
+Ron Kipper Datacomm look at this ebay auction and tell me if thats all i need, or is it supposed to have the sliders and inserts also? i will use a normal crimp connector www.ebay.com/itm/100-X-pcs-RJ45-Plug-Cat6-Modular-LAN-Network-Connector-Internet-Ethernet-Cable-E-/201300084519?hash=item2ede6b8727:g:NkcAAOSwPYZU9lhS
Ron Kipper Datacomm what do u mean by, "not worried about passing a cert test", I've only used the single piece connectors, gotten down to about a minute on a bad untwist, layout, insert and crimp
Felix Perez Felix you can buy them at any electrical supply house that carries IDEAL products. They are also available at Home Depot and Lowes.Thanks for watchingRon
+Ron Kipper Datacomm Ya sold me. Read your comment yesterday, and today I went over to Home Depot and finally crimped one of these bad boys. I have to say though, I had real trouble pushing wires through the first and last liner holes. I had to strip the wire to the bare, uh, wire, and thread _that_ through. Then I pulled from the other end.
Jhonatan not sure what you are asking but yes these are modular plugs. We have a new one piece deign that is better look for the 85-367 from IDEAL. Ron
Please get the engineers to re-write the instructions in the package to match your video. The instructions say nothing about what pairs go into the first device. Also some nicer pictures would be nice. thanks Larry
rodzilla72 Rodzilla I can't help what Amazon sales them for. Did you watch up to 6:40 in the video? I have a little trick of trimming the conductors before inserting them in the slider. I tell guys the first one they make is never in front of a customer..........if you need me leave me a message ron.kipper@idealindustries.com
Nice connectors. Too bad they're almost $1 apiece and can only be bought in quantities of 25 (probably why they're almost $1 apiece). If they were less than 25¢ apiece and in packs of 100 I would buy them.
Tim Ramich Tim good to hear from you. I checked our suggested trade which is $57 per hundred so about 57 cents a piece and Lowe's and Home Depot have them at $9.98 for a pack of 25 which is like 40 cents apiece. Not sure where you are getting them or the price you mention.I will say we do sell industry compliant connectors that comply with FCC Part 68 and do have the full 50 microns of gold on the contacts so they can be inserted and extracted a bunch before you wear thru the plating. Many manufactures probably could not tell you how thick their plating actually is.Thanks for watching and keeping my on my toes.........Ron
gir489 The term RJ-45 actually is a phone thing not data. Which is why dta guys call the 8 position modular plugs not RJ-45. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
***** You might have me there..................would you believe that is the #2 most watched video? Part of me says redo it and pull that old video put not yet. Thanks for watchingRon
Thanks for the tutorial Mr. Kipper. You just made my day 10x better.
Ron don’t know how to thank you guy but this money about to roll in , thanks again
OK DFW Quan good luck we also have a new one piece Cat 6 plug you might like better look for the 85-367. Have fun Ron
A lot of people explain how to terminate ethernet cable, but without any insight on the "why" of each part of the process. Appreciate your take on it!
Hey good to hear from you appreciate the comment. Take care Ron
Thanks for this how to video. Was having a hard time figuring out where the splines go but watching this video shows it all. Again very informative video, cheers.
Andrew Kaupa Andrew glad it could help you. Most of the Cat 6 cables today do not have a spline but some may still. Thanks for watchingRon
I had a fair amount of trouble following along due to the lighting and the resolution. You should probably remake this with 720 and 1080p options available and bit more light to allow all those transparent pieces to show up a bit more. Never seen this style connector before. Interesting video, thanks.
+Jonathan Wolff Jonathan yes I know the video and audio pretty much suck. I made that video before I had better equipment. Funny you sent a note it is on my list to reshoot as the new plugs are slightly different. I appreciate the comment. Ron
I always fight sliding the wires in the liner, even cutting it at angle. Watching you slide it on that easy made me a little jealous!
Jesse Montague Practice baby............Some Cat 6 has thick jacketing and it adds to the problem. Appreciate you watching
I learned a lot from this video. The way to improve this video, is terminate both ends of the CAT 6 cable and test it to the termination was successful.
Russ not a bad idea appreciate it. Ron
Will this work on just 4 wire? I am a ham operator and I want to Connect my Boom, mic 2 a radio. It only takes 4 Pin connection will these guide work?
Hello these are RJ-45 8 pin connectors so just buy a plug for the four pin style RJ-11 connecotors. I am not sure how it should be wired for your application though have fu Ron
Excellent video. I have a bunch of solid cat6 plenum rated lying around from when I wired my house and it seems like it is even harder to terminate. Plenum is usually terminated in a punch-down block so it might not work, but do you have experience doing this with plenum cable? I can't verify, but the solid conductors have what I believe to be thicker & stiffer insulation. It is very hard to get everything straight and flat. The twist memory is strong.
I terminated cat 6 that only had nylon into cat5e one piece connector and didn't strip the pairs 2mm just crimped them. Is this okay it works on one run but the other doesn't.
Another good demo. I happened to have the same 3 piece Ideal plugs (from Lowe's) as well as some Monoprice plugs which didn't have the sled and which had the wires slightly offset on the vertical plane in the liner. For whatever reason I made twice as many bad cables with the Monoprice plugs as the Ideals when practicing. Same cable, same ratcheting Klein crimp tool, but I kept making bad cables with the Monoprice ones. Not sure if it was the magic sled or just bad luck. Eventually I could consistently make solid cables with the Monoprice plugs, but it took a lot more focus to keep everything perfect before I crimped.
Ben Roberts These 3 piece plugs can drive you crazy the first time you make one up. However they take a lot of "user error" out of the equation. You have to use all the parts correctly and it will make a great Cat 6 connection.
+Ben Roberts agree. i've made thousands of cat5/5e's without fail. did the same thing with this new cat6 + insert and it fails even though observation it looks perfect. no clue. hence another youtube tutorial. ;) round 2..
pictureBigger These Ideal plugs in the video actually were pretty reliable for me, it was the Monoprice ones without the sled, just the wedge insert that I had a hard time with, though I eventually got those consistent as well.
Very handy video for novice technicians. Keep it up!
Hey thanks that video is getting a little old as we do have a one piece Cat 6 design and a feed-thru version too. The RJ-45 design is such a simple thing yet here we are still using it! Ron
Agreed. Still an amazing tutorial regardless of the age.
I am trying to instll this female cat6 jack, but the cable is cat5e,jack is cat6, crimper is cat6, so use cat6 method and wiring?
Ron, checked out your video to make sure I was terminating correctly. I am working with shielded cat6 wire and plugs. Near the end when the assembly is pushed into the plug, I am unable to get the outer casing into the plug for the strain relief to grab it. I have tried two solutions. One, I slice the outer casing until it is thin enough to be pushed into the plug. This takes a long time. Second solution, I trim the outer shield so it does not need to enter the plug, then I use electrical tape to wrap the twisted pairs that will be under the strain relief.
I am curious to know if you have experienced this issue?
Great video and I will have to try that angle cut as you suggested.
wnleon Thanks for watching. I have not tried to make a shielded plug. Who's connectors are you using I might give it a try.You might be better off just buying the patchcords.Take CareRon
Great job Ron!!
Man that is an old video but the content still holds true. Thanks for watching the channel. Ron
Please zoom in to show some of the details you refer to such as how the block slides in fully against.... and see how the wire ends are flush against.... At this resolution and zoom level we cannot see what you are referring to. Otherwise very clear and concise instructions. Thanks.
I learned a lot form you Ron, Thanks for sharing
Andy nice to hear from you! Glad you can use the info most of the datacomm or low voltage stuff is not hard to understand just a little practice. Ron
Thanks mate. Punchy and too the point.
Appreciate the comment! Ron
i saw 3 parts earlier in the video. 2 parts are supposed to go on before the jack end. Yet at the end i only saw you slide on the liner. Were you holding the other 2 parts together as they went on ?
ok i got it. I must have blinked. I see it now earlier. thanks
hi Ron, I am looking at the website, and it has 2 kinds of modular plugs; stranded and Solid. could you please tell me the difference between stranded and solid modular plugs
+Smart Investor Hey good to hear from you. I cover that is this video.th-cam.com/video/xmU4mwypzOI/w-d-xo.html&feature=player_detailpage#t=155A plug rated for solid wire can be used on solid or stranded wire while a plug rated for stranded usually can only be used on stranded. The difference is the pins solid has 3 teeth and stranded usually just 2.hope that helpsRon
***** thank you sir.
Can you please provide a link where we can buy these RJ45 heads? All cat6 heads I find are only 2 pieces
iIt confuses me the from left to right the same way on both sides, clip thing below right?
Mr. Ron, what is the model no. (or other info) for me to find that crimper that you use? Would it happen to be ASIN B0000WU454 ?
beckon&muse No I do not recognize that number not one of ours. That was a 30-496 TeleMaster or you could look up the 30-696 Ratcheting Telemaster. The plugs should work with about anyone's crimper.Take CareRon
Thanks, the ideal brand is the best at making data ends. By far outdoes the Klein. I have the same telecrimper.
What is BRAND of connectors in this video?. .Not all connectors for sale have sled and LINERS.. I love the LINER concept...
Glen Howard Glen good to hear from you. These are 3 piece Cat 6 plugs we sell at IDEAL. You can find them at a local electrical supply house or at Home Depot or Lowes. By making them 3 parts we take a lot of user error out of making a good connection. I tell guys to never put the first one on in front of a customer...................takes a little practice.Ron
Are you aware if the design of the "liner device" has changed since this video was made? Today, I picked up a box of the IDEAL CAT 6 connectors as shown in this video from Home Depot. The "sled" is the same, however, the liner device is different. The wires can no longer pass right through the liner device. The wires all butt up against solid plastic. In the video, the wires passed right though, and then were neatly trimmed off to suit. (A superior way to go). Now, I had to estimate the exact length of wires based on the length of the "liner device, then insert until fully home. There is nothing to trim off, because the wires do not pass through. It makes it more difficult imho.
Also, can you recommend a way to test the wiring once done. I'm just using speedtest.net and comparing hard wired results to wireless results (i.e. for speed) The download speeds are doubled by hard wiring, but upload is the same. (Which seems to agree if I'm wireless and right beside the modem, the download speeds are double when compared to the rest of the building, however, the upload speeds remain the same.
+Doug Webb Doug yes I know we changed the connector. That old video gets a lot of views and I added two annotations that play throughout the video that will take you to a short or long version of a video showing the new design. Did you not see them? The reason we made the change people were not trimming the conductors flush with the end of the second part and when it was inserted in the body the pins would not line up with the slots in that second part. The new design helps prevent that problem. I thought the same thing the first one I did and after making a few and understanding why we made the change I don't mind the new design. A little practice goes a long way.As far as testing the wire we do sell very expensive testers that can test the cable to the Cat5e or Cat 6 spec. Keep in mind they support 1000 mbps or Gigabit Ethernet. The speeds your getting from your service provider are probably not close to that. If the cable your using has good continuity between both ends it will not slow down what you are getting from the provider. Wireless is as you say open to more interference that may slow things down.Thanks for the comment. Ron
+Ron Kipper Datacomm Thanks for getting back Ron, I really appreciate that. My bad. I didn't see the links to the newer videos (but I do now, they are there - top right of the screen). I watched your video about 20 times, pausing it as I went, figuring it out. Last night was the first time I had ever wired up an RJ45 connector in my life. I figured that when the wires would not pass through the liner that the design had changed. The new video also has a LOT better light too! I've got a pile of connections to make and last night was just the first one. But the cable does appear to be working. My internet provider is Bell Canada and the speed is supposed to be 50 Meg. My modem is in the basement, so as you go up through the house, the wife speed drops off hugely so. I much prefer hard wired for everything (TV, Security, phone, internet). It's just better. As part of a major home reno, I'm running CAT6, security, voice, and RG6 home-runs everywhere throughout the house.
If I'm standing right beside the modem using wifi, I do get speeds of 60 meg (more than promised), but if I go up a floor, it drops to 35. Up another floor and it drops to 25) My PC seems to be able to function OK, but my wife's Macbook really really suffers when wireless. So last night after successfully wiring my first CAT6 run, I plugged in my laptop and speed went from 35 wireless to 60 when hardwired. So I believe it's working.
The video is great, thanks again for your help. Cheers
+Doug Webb Doug can you move the wireless router to the first floor? Or add a wireless access point to each floor. That would solve your wireless speed drop off throughout the house. It can be fixed and I appreciate the feedback. Ron
Thanks much. Great video; very instructive and well made.
Ron, thanks again for the great video. One question though. On the sled with openings to and bottom, one side is slightly beveled on the two sides(squares) towards the middle. Does it matter if that is facing the jacket or the terminating end?
Dave2791 Dave good to hear from you. Noit does not seem to matter which end is put on first with the sled. I have had people ask before and I have done it both ways and it seem to work either way.take CareRon
Great videos Ron, thanks for the the great info!
Could I use the same one piece RJ45 connectors that I've been using when I terminate CAT5e, or do you have to use the 3 piece connectors?
Thanks for making this Video,
Tom
WVURaven Tom yes you could and would it support 1000BaseT ethernet. Probably. It may not pass a certification test but I'm pretty sure it would work. We would normally tell people not to do that as the system is rated by it weakest link. Thanks for watching
My "liner device" stops at the tips of the cable, the individual strands do not push through like yours. But it looks the same, am I doing something wrong?
+Eric “XgamerericX” Hansen Eric if you are using our connector the wires should go all the way through and the liner should slide down and touch the 1st part of the connector. Who's plugs do you haveThanks for watching.Ron
I bought this a while back. Shaxon UL725-KIT. I wanted to do ethernet throughout the house.
Hi Ron, I've begun to redo the cabling at my office.. If my cable jacket is not in the rj45 connector, should I cut the wire and redo the connector, or can I leave it as is?
Hi Ben as long as the connections are still good you should be alright Ethernet is pretty robust. However if you want to make it right putting on the connectors aren't that bad. Ron
All the connections are good, so ill leave the cables as is for now .. Thanks for the confirmation and clarification
when I was practicing the method on a piece of scrap cable, I did the same thing and crimped down onto the wires instead of the jacket and it worked fine. But yeah the goal is definitely to get that triangle piece in the sheath to crimp down onto the jacket.
Ron my southwire 23g CAT6 wires don't fit through the liner device. I even tried one single untwisted wire scrap piece as a test but no luck. I don't care about cert so I might go back to cat5e one piece plug. But will those support 350MHz? Thanks. UPDATE: I just watched your other video ("long video") and there you show liner bottoms out and wires don't pass through? Which is correct?
Anthony if you are using the cable for Gigabit Ethernet I'm pretty sure the Cat 5e plugs will work. I'm not sure if it supports 350 MHz though. The new plug design the wire must be trimmed and then the liner goes on and the wires do not pass through like the older design. Hope that helps. Ron
Thanks Ron - I was able to terminate. Was my error I was expecting wires to pass through liner but stand corrected. Appreciate your help!
Hi Ron, the slider I have to line up the wires in the connector doesn't have the ability to push the pins all the way through. Thoughts on that? An angled cut won't work for that as you've depicted in this video. I'm guessing I would just have to cut them flush and at the proper length before inserting into the slider.
Timothy Pool Tim I will bet your conductors are not straight enough! Cat 6 is really tested and you need to get all the little twists and kinks out before installing them in the slider. Then trim the conductors flush with the end and insert that assembly in the body and make sure to fully insert the assembly. If you need more help send me an email ron.kipper@idealindustries.com
***** Hi Ron, its not that I am unable or doing it improperly, its that the slider makes it physically impossible to slide the wires all the way through as its only open on one side (the side you stick the wires through). I've been able to terminate the lines if I cut them really short before sticking them in the slider - just wish I had sliders like how you have where you can slide the wires all the way through it.
Tim are you saying the slider only has an opening on one end and the wires cannot slide all the way through. call my cell maybe I -can help 815-341-3537
I am actually having this EXACT issue with cat 6 cable load bars that came with a Shaxon home networking kit (1000' of cable, crimping tool, RJ-45 jacks, etc.). I haven't been able to push the conductors through the load bar because only one side is open. Were y'all able to figure this out?
Geoff
Geoffrey Garber Man I tried to look at what the plugs look like when I search for that kit. It looks like they are one piece not three pieces like our Cat 6 plugs. I assume you put them on the same as a Cat 5e plug. You mention the load bar but I did not see one. Sorry I was not much help just never have seen the connector. Good luck
Ron
excellent video. thank you.
What about the CAT6 specs of only 3/16" from the jacket to tip of the connector? That part you called the sled prevents one from one from ever getting to that 3/16" dimension.
EDIT:
Platinum Tools video mentions that 3/16" but all I've read shows 1/2" as you mentioned.
William Turczynski William which Cat 6 specification are you referring to? I'll be glad to look at it.Ron
***** Sorry, I edited my post before noticing your reply!
Cool the 1/2" is what I believe the TIA 568 standards mention.
Thanks for watching
***** Correct, I asked them where that came from but they haven't responded to a post since that video was posted in 2012 so I don't expect one either.
William Turczynski If you are using the cable for Gigabit Ethernet you will find you can untwist quite a bit and it will still work. It may not pass a certification test........................but it work for Ethernet.Ron
What's the benefit of using this type of rj45 plug over a pass thro rj45 plug?
It is funny people either love or hate the three piece Cat 6 plug. Me personnally I would use a one piece standard Cat 6 plug. The feed-thru are nice if you are new to installing plugs on cable and some folks don't like the fact the conductors are exposed at the end. Either way you go should work Ron
I tried the non pass thro ones (one piece) and it wasn't as hard as i expected to push the cores in. I think its because i bought the staggered rj45 plugs. I've not tried the pass through ones so i haven't got anything to compare with. Thanks for your feedback
Thank You. Great video.
+Like Seap You are welcome I need to update the video the connectors have changed slightly.Ron
Thanks for sharing ! It was well done .. How do I know the plugs sold to me are meant for Cat6 ethernet cables only ?
What the plugs are rated for should be on the packaging. We have new one piece versions of this plu look for the 85-367 from IDEAL. Thanks Ron
why aren't you explaining the color sequence .. how does this help when I'm looking for a sequence ?
It's a nice video for Crimping but that about it ...
keep up the videos
I will be having some Cat6 cables run for my AV install. The installer initially wanted to install 5e but I am telling them I want cat 6. Question is: how can I tell if it is 5e or 6 cable?
Bob Mack Bob good to hear from you. You can tell what kind of cable they are installing by looking at the cable itself. Every 2 feet it will be labeled and will tell you what kind of cable it is. So just pick up one end of the cable and look at the printing.Good Luck Ron
***** Thank you very much. Next question. Of course I would want cat 6 connectors on the ends but the installers say to themselves, "dang, we don't have any cat 6 connectors, lets just use cat 5e...he will never know the difference". Can cat 5e connectors fit on a cat 6 cable...how would I be able to tell?
Bob yes you can put Cat 5e plugs on a Cat 6 cable and it will probably work for basic Ethernet. It may not pass a certification test which is the only way to know for sure that the cable is still Cat 6 rated. For inwall installations usually a jack is used at the wall outlet and it should say on it what it is rated for.
Good luck
Ron
***** Thanks Bob..They have looked where my DSL is coming from (jack in bedroom) and I believe that they will be going from the nearby modem to the gigabit switch.
Bob Mack Cat 6 is always a little more money so he should have no trouble putting it in as he will make a little more as well. The Cat 5e would be OK but as I tell people Cat 6 will take you further into the future. I had a guy reply he only would use Cat 7 which is in Europe and a shielded cable that is about $800 a box. That is way over kill..............
i looked up these cat6 connectors on ebay and 99% do not have any type of insert or anything, just the clear connectors. so i have to have the insert right? i dont know why they sell it without the insert or slide
+Robots4Sale You can find Cat 6 plugs that bare not 3 parts. We use 3 parts connectors to get better performance consistently when marking the plugs. Cat 6 is about 12 times better in reducing noise so the plugs must be better too. They are not bad after making a few. good to hear from you. Ron
+Ron Kipper Datacomm look at this ebay auction and tell me if thats all i need, or is it supposed to have the sliders and inserts also? i will use a normal crimp connector www.ebay.com/itm/100-X-pcs-RJ45-Plug-Cat6-Modular-LAN-Network-Connector-Internet-Ethernet-Cable-E-/201300084519?hash=item2ede6b8727:g:NkcAAOSwPYZU9lhS
I found the ideal ones at homedepot. They got 3 parts.
If you are not worried about passing a certification test the single piece plugs will usually work fine for Ethernet. Ron
Ron Kipper Datacomm what do u mean by, "not worried about passing a cert test", I've only used the single piece connectors, gotten down to about a minute on a bad untwist, layout, insert and crimp
Where can I buy these exact plugs?
***** 84015
where can I buy those three piece connectors?
Felix Perez Felix you can buy them at any electrical supply house that carries IDEAL products. They are also available at Home Depot and Lowes.Thanks for watchingRon
+Ron Kipper Datacomm Ya sold me. Read your comment yesterday, and today I went over to Home Depot and finally crimped one of these bad boys.
I have to say though, I had real trouble pushing wires through the first and last liner holes. I had to strip the wire to the bare, uh, wire, and thread _that_ through. Then I pulled from the other end.
Is this considering mod plug?
Jhonatan not sure what you are asking but yes these are modular plugs. We have a new one piece deign that is better look for the 85-367 from IDEAL. Ron
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Please get the engineers to re-write the instructions in the package to match your video. The instructions say nothing about what pairs go into the first device. Also some nicer pictures would be nice. thanks Larry
put one on cut one off, you need a tester to show you if you did it correctly
$40 for 50 of these off Amazon and there is no way you are fitting 23AWG cat6 in the slider, there isn't room for the 8th wire.
rodzilla72 Rodzilla I can't help what Amazon sales them for. Did you watch up to 6:40 in the video? I have a little trick of trimming the conductors before inserting them in the slider. I tell guys the first one they make is never in front of a customer..........if you need me leave me a message ron.kipper@idealindustries.com
Nice connectors. Too bad they're almost $1 apiece and can only be bought in quantities of 25 (probably why they're almost $1 apiece). If they were less than 25¢ apiece and in packs of 100 I would buy them.
Tim Ramich Tim good to hear from you. I checked our suggested trade which is $57 per hundred so about 57 cents a piece and Lowe's and Home Depot have them at $9.98 for a pack of 25 which is like 40 cents apiece. Not sure where you are getting them or the price you mention.I will say we do sell industry compliant connectors that comply with FCC Part 68 and do have the full 50 microns of gold on the contacts so they can be inserted and extracted a bunch before you wear thru the plating. Many manufactures probably could not tell you how thick their plating actually is.Thanks for watching and keeping my on my toes.........Ron
Tim Ramich Tim I screwed up Lowes has them for $15.18 for a pack of 25 which is 61 cents each. HD has them for $17.18 or 69 cents. Ron
***** Hi Ron, Do I ask for 3 part RJ45 plugs at Home Depot? Thanks...Dom
the parts are difficult to see
Daniel please used the links imbedded in the video to see the new version of the plug. Ron
Very helpful, thanks for making this video
It's an RJ45 plug, not a CAT.6 plug.
gir489 The term RJ-45 actually is a phone thing not data. Which is why dta guys call the 8 position modular plugs not RJ-45. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
TALKING WAAAAY TOO FAST. FAIL
Sorry about that I have been accused of talking too fast. Ron
xem phim 500 days of summer
That is a lot of summer.......
I bogut cat5e one.. Fuck my life. Doesnt fit cause cat6 is fatter.. wondering what I did wrong for an hour. Lol
Yep the first connector is always the hardest to get done. Take care Ron
you talked too much for that simple job....
***** You might have me there..................would you believe that is the #2 most watched video? Part of me says redo it and pull that old video put not yet. Thanks for watchingRon