You also need to remember they are adding 4 new passives to each class so it's more like +32 (technically 5 but I don't think this thing will boost Key passives that would just be silly)
it's a lot of damage on the spiritborn with harmony (so you can utilize 3 different spirit's passive). defensively it's probably always going to be worse than tyrael's though because of the max all res and i'm not sure how much investment it will take to even just cap out resistances on the non-int classes in VoH.
I hope to see more items like that to rival other mythics. Right now, Tyrael's is basically BiS. But now you've got a choice. And then they'll add new Chest only tempers that will rival these two mythics and do the same to every slot so we end up really having to make decision (and hard ones) to really tweak our builds the way we want to!
I think that item is cracked - the same way tyraels is but a bit more on the offensive side - this items will also get better and better if new passives get added further down the line. I would also not count of the stealth mechanic - it basically means for many builds, that you enter every fight invisible and not being attacked at all - for something like a RoA rogue that means, nothing touches you until you fire of the RoA and then usually everything is dead - thats a huge defensive boost - also in the rare case you get chain cced you will also turn invisible dropping aggro instantly. i think its a really cool item but its on the exact level that it rivals with tyraels
This armor with Waxing Gibous axe and Banished Lord, having a pulverize Druid with guaranteed crits with consistent overpowered and the bonus damage coming out of stealth. Might be crap, but the idea of a sneaky bear smashing something out of Stealth just sounds fun at the least
Pure stealth build is already possible: Resistant Assailant aspect or Exposure key passive with Concealment on your bar both can give you more or less what you want.
One additional benefit is the fact that there are some passives you only want to invest a single point into for a mechanical boon to your build, and now those points can be spent elsewhere.
You did mention at some point in the rogue passives: “we don’t activate stealth so this doesn’t help us”. Would the stealth effect from the chest activate it?
Enemy dead = you safe Actually sorcs pushing Pits with this mentality at high tiers, with or without tyrael, any hit may oneshot. and who knows how new difficulty balance gona work
This is not exactly relevant to the discussion, but are those the final models for these items ? They are just recycled legendaries, while they put all the cool stuff into the shop.
theres a lot of miscalculation going on with the planner on every class. barbs get 7k dex from a single glyph and second wind on rogues says they can get a 400 million barrier. they're working on fixing all of it
@@Im2k0o7 I watched almost it all and left for work. Since he changed subject for other classes I thought he didnt mention. My bad, but no need to be rude
Just gonna say it, i dont think the new chest will ever replace tyreals in my builds. The extreme durability tyreals provides is infinitly more usefull than +1 to a few passives
If it was +2 to all Passives with the other bonuses, then it would be a question to ponder between this and Tyraels. But as it Sits, Tyraels solves So many Issues that it is silly to take anything over it. Hitting max 85 all res is Extremely hard with classes without sacrificing other things. Tyraels Solves that, as well as the bolts at full health.
And a smooth 35%+ DR which is extremely hard to get anywhere else. And I’m always the biggest fan of movement. I’ve been a movement speed amulet andy for a long time. It’s hard not to play capped after playing capped. So the movement speed as well is “chef kiss” for me.
@@JFiez27 DR is one of the hardest, and most beneficial bonuses in the game. You are 100% correct. Tyraels is God Like. I would go so far as to say it is just as exciting for it to drop, as it is for a Shako. I have yet to try Tyraels with Andariels though.. i can only assume it has the potential to make you invincible basically.
@@JFiez27 Mine is 2 GA, max res and DR. I hit the DR 2x and max res once and it sits at 49% DR. Besides pit bosses stacking me I'm basically unkillable. Tyrael's is essential.
Both spark fodder imo, +1 all passives is a super strong implicit, but why is the affixes so teribble same as the effect itself, 333% addative dmg wont matter if you can only proc it once per fight, the resource regen is the same roll as any legendary roll. edit: + they both have to compete with either shaco or tyraels.
You have to avoid stacks on pit bosses, at which point you would stealth. If your next attack is your ultimate or some high damage attack it's going to nuke bosses.
@@itsame8470 Like overall, for overall dmg the chest is best in slot for every single character/class, just that you have to sacrifice tyraels might, which is like ''inf'' damage reduction+with the new T4 difficulty resistance is even more importan than what it is right now.
As a long time Diablo 2 player, I fully expect that +skills includes ALL skills, including Passives! The D4 version of Harlequin Crest always struck me as pathetic when I found out it did Not buff Passives nor Ultimates.
why would they make a pc of gear needed ..of course they would ,, When is d4 coming out ? I have made 4 100's this season ,, still cant get my aspects maxed out .bet i d/e'd millions of unigues.especially during this gobbie event .they shove the decimal system where the sun don't shine . still cost to much to reroll .it's pathetic .
Unless this gives you +3 or +2 to passives it’s not that good imo especially with the affixes on it not being all that great. Like it’s cool for sure but definitely hope that gets a little bump. Especially compared to the new glave mythic.
LOL. That'd be busted. It will be a good pick for a little boost in power for those of us that never find a decent amulet or won't buy one at the the ridiculous prices out there. Sadly it is easier to farm a mythic than hope for rng on normal loot and then risk bricking it on top of that.
You crazy as he11! Have you not made many builds?? Dude go down every passive om ANY class and add +1 and write down how much damage/dr/healing etc. Just for the rogue getting 1 to 3 passives gives 11%x damage and 3% speed. 30 passives you're getting 1 to. That would substantially make you're character op af, now add on +4 core from shako and +3 to 2 more passives from an amulet. You could have some passives to 10 after masterworking
@@VinakaD4 what? how can you have ALL nodes on the boards if you can only have 5 boards? I didn't say "of the boards you have picked", when I said Paragon boards I meant ALL boards of your class. EDIT: harlequin crest also givews you ranks to skills you haven't equiped or learned and shroud of the false death does the same with passives, so why would I suggest that this theoretical item would work differently?
Yup, a simple "+1" doesn't sound too impressive. Your explanation definitely does though. Thanks for analyzing!
+1 to all passives sounds crazy though, even without his explanation, wym
@@jordywardy2 My imagjnation wasn't as extensive as yours then.
I guess it doesn't +1 all passives...the 4 at the very bottom aren't +1...unless I missed it.
+333% damage, and garunteed stealth between necromancer bone spirits was my first thought when I saw that unique
A GA on that with 3 masterworking hits would put you at over +1000% damage on that attack too.
Same plus the rogue atk after stealth temper
@@itsame8470 Implicits cant either be GA or Masterworked
@@OfficialPepe Yeah, I said all kinds of wrong things.
Yea when I saw +1 to all passives I immediately knew how busted that would be. On every class. Be amazing
You also need to remember they are adding 4 new passives to each class so it's more like +32 (technically 5 but I don't think this thing will boost Key passives that would just be silly)
I think it’s the sub passives of the regular skills not key passives - that mythic will be actually of regular performance compared to regular uniques
it's a lot of damage on the spiritborn with harmony (so you can utilize 3 different spirit's passive). defensively it's probably always going to be worse than tyrael's though because of the max all res and i'm not sure how much investment it will take to even just cap out resistances on the non-int classes in VoH.
it essentially is 20+ skill points. granted some passives don't affect your build all the time but it's still massive.
I hope to see more items like that to rival other mythics. Right now, Tyrael's is basically BiS. But now you've got a choice. And then they'll add new Chest only tempers that will rival these two mythics and do the same to every slot so we end up really having to make decision (and hard ones) to really tweak our builds the way we want to!
I think that item is cracked - the same way tyraels is but a bit more on the offensive side - this items will also get better and better if new passives get added further down the line. I would also not count of the stealth mechanic - it basically means for many builds, that you enter every fight invisible and not being attacked at all - for something like a RoA rogue that means, nothing touches you until you fire of the RoA and then usually everything is dead - thats a huge defensive boost - also in the rare case you get chain cced you will also turn invisible dropping aggro instantly. i think its a really cool item but its on the exact level that it rivals with tyraels
Good itemization is having several choices that are legitimately competitive with one another. I love the new items because they’re just that
Please Wudi I have been dreaming about a pure Stealth build since launch, make it happen!
Then make one! Lol
This armor with Waxing Gibous axe and Banished Lord, having a pulverize Druid with guaranteed crits with consistent overpowered and the bonus damage coming out of stealth.
Might be crap, but the idea of a sneaky bear smashing something out of Stealth just sounds fun at the least
@@patrickdhamiltonWas my same thought!
Pure stealth build is already possible: Resistant Assailant aspect or Exposure key passive with Concealment on your bar both can give you more or less what you want.
One additional benefit is the fact that there are some passives you only want to invest a single point into for a mechanical boon to your build, and now those points can be spent elsewhere.
Ypu still have to have a point in it it to get next tier it doesn't count
That on bone spirit is GG
I hope they don't recycle existing gear again for the look of the new mythics. Nothing says doing the bare minimum more, in my opinion.
This is gonna be really cool, Wudi explaining at adding value to D4 always!
when are we getting stash space?
You did mention at some point in the rogue passives: “we don’t activate stealth so this doesn’t help us”. Would the stealth effect from the chest activate it?
Very nice thanks woody , i still like the damge reduction though lol
Interesting comments and insight. I was disappointed with this item when I first saw. Now I will think again.
You do activate stealth via the item right?
Does it go to +3 when fully masterworked?
I want this in poe. Doubles ever passive you click that would be OP
I smell a shadow step rogue in the near future ❤
Maybe you will have even +1 to all key passives too?)
i can easy imagine that they release spiritborn with 20 useful passives out of +-28, and this armour will be cracked
but will you go stealth while u ride your horsey (or tiger)?..
thanks for the update on the new mythics i didnt even know about them appreciate the info Wudijo
Missed opportunity not giving 44.4 resource gen
Maybe this item could replace the Raiment for damage. Won't replace Tyrael's for survivability though.
Enemy dead = you safe
Actually sorcs pushing Pits with this mentality at high tiers, with or without tyrael, any hit may oneshot. and who knows how new difficulty balance gona work
This plus Waxing Gibbus for basically perma 333%+ damage on Druid shred build for speed farming?
It's additive so not as impressive as it sounds except as a leveling item. :)
@@AlexandrosV88 Ahh bummer, that is disappointing lol
@Wudi you forgot about the new passives in S6
Shred build for druid
What Chrome theme is that?
Does that include the key passives??
No
@@MrKronz I didn’t think so but didn’t hear other wise lol
Shred build for Druid seems you get lots of damage and druid has a lot of passives .. this will be bis
The thumbnail of your videos are proper cringe dude. No need
Is there any chance because it says "all passives" that it Will override the one keystone exclusivity and give all 5?.
no
the real title should be: how my sorc build got 31261 intelligence
that chestplates is gonna be busted for slow attacking one shot builds
Dont forget the 4 new passives
please tell me they gonna have a unique transmog, already pisses me off that andariels doesn't
So what if Druid conpanions that cant die will attack someone you will stay in invis? Afk farm?
You know it bro
the only class thats wins with that chest is the necro every passiv gives flat out %dmg
This is not exactly relevant to the discussion, but are those the final models for these items ? They are just recycled legendaries, while they put all the cool stuff into the shop.
Noticed that too and knowing Blizzard I am not surprised
Missed that all together. I read all the stats twice unable to see implicit!
Something must be borken with that planner, it says that you have 31k intelligence?
The stats are completely irrelevant in this case.
theres a lot of miscalculation going on with the planner on every class. barbs get 7k dex from a single glyph and second wind on rogues says they can get a 400 million barrier. they're working on fixing all of it
I see this chest irrelevant with the T4 resistance penalty. Tyrael will be slapped on every single build in S6
*Note* for players that are not wudi, sorc will absolutely get one shot w/Tyreals might
Guawk guawk 9000
yea it ii
Just to remember you didnt even account for the new passives, like the cooldown reduction one
next time watch the whole video, at the end he mentions it.
@@Im2k0o7 I watched almost it all and left for work. Since he changed subject for other classes I thought he didnt mention. My bad, but no need to be rude
@@AnatoleVGC bro there is nothing rude in his comment...
Lmao that preview
18:17 I'm sorry but how much barrier? 😂😂
Do take into account that t4 is -100% res. GG
Just gonna say it, i dont think the new chest will ever replace tyreals in my builds. The extreme durability tyreals provides is infinitly more usefull than +1 to a few passives
If it was +2 to all Passives with the other bonuses, then it would be a question to ponder between this and Tyraels. But as it Sits, Tyraels solves So many Issues that it is silly to take anything over it. Hitting max 85 all res is Extremely hard with classes without sacrificing other things. Tyraels Solves that, as well as the bolts at full health.
And a smooth 35%+ DR which is extremely hard to get anywhere else.
And I’m always the biggest fan of movement. I’ve been a movement speed amulet andy for a long time. It’s hard not to play capped after playing capped. So the movement speed as well is “chef kiss” for me.
@@JFiez27 DR is one of the hardest, and most beneficial bonuses in the game. You are 100% correct. Tyraels is God Like. I would go so far as to say it is just as exciting for it to drop, as it is for a Shako. I have yet to try Tyraels with Andariels though.. i can only assume it has the potential to make you invincible basically.
@@JFiez27 Mine is 2 GA, max res and DR. I hit the DR 2x and max res once and it sits at 49% DR. Besides pit bosses stacking me I'm basically unkillable. Tyrael's is essential.
@@dantediss1 I had it drop from a treasure goblin yesterday. I just stood there. Lmao. I clipped that video
Ladies and gents… the passivist
wudijo in the thumbnail 😲 wudijo in the video 😐
Both spark fodder imo, +1 all passives is a super strong implicit, but why is the affixes so teribble same as the effect itself, 333% addative dmg wont matter if you can only proc it once per fight, the resource regen is the same roll as any legendary roll. edit: + they both have to compete with either shaco or tyraels.
bro didnt even watch the video
You have to avoid stacks on pit bosses, at which point you would stealth. If your next attack is your ultimate or some high damage attack it's going to nuke bosses.
@@itsame8470 No, its not, the dmg is just addative, it might be like a total of 2-5% more overall dmg on one hit.
@@proxmitikgames Ah, that's unfortunate then. It sounds like a fun item for messing around with.
@@itsame8470 Like overall, for overall dmg the chest is best in slot for every single character/class, just that you have to sacrifice tyraels might, which is like ''inf'' damage reduction+with the new T4 difficulty resistance is even more importan than what it is right now.
Hi woody
With 100% res penalty in t4 you cant run anything other then tyrael
Relax its plus 1 nothing to scream from hype
222 max life... thanks I guess?
As a long time Diablo 2 player, I fully expect that +skills includes ALL skills, including Passives! The D4 version of Harlequin Crest always struck me as pathetic when I found out it did Not buff Passives nor Ultimates.
In D2 it wasnt +2 to skills and +2 to atributes?
God damn, Wudijo! You jumped on that stupid shocked face thumbnail train. Why tf are people doing that?
Click bait festival
I thought you gonna talk about new +11 to all skills item for a new class.
Devs making new gears just to be put in the garbage
why would they make a pc of gear needed ..of course they would ,, When is d4 coming out ? I have made 4 100's this season ,, still cant get my aspects maxed out .bet i d/e'd millions of unigues.especially during this gobbie event .they shove the decimal system where the sun don't shine . still cost to much to reroll .it's pathetic .
As exciting as Melted Heart of Skelig, which is the ultimate meh mythic
Oh look you need to Ubers to do what one Uber did in Diablo 2. Harlequin Crest in D2 granted + 4 to all skills including passives
Ya but it's just plain 1
Unless this gives you +3 or +2 to passives it’s not that good imo especially with the affixes on it not being all that great. Like it’s cool for sure but definitely hope that gets a little bump. Especially compared to the new glave mythic.
LOL. That'd be busted. It will be a good pick for a little boost in power for those of us that never find a decent amulet or won't buy one at the the ridiculous prices out there. Sadly it is easier to farm a mythic than hope for rng on normal loot and then risk bricking it on top of that.
You crazy as he11! Have you not made many builds?? Dude go down every passive om ANY class and add +1 and write down how much damage/dr/healing etc. Just for the rogue getting 1 to 3 passives gives 11%x damage and 3% speed. 30 passives you're getting 1 to. That would substantially make you're character op af, now add on +4 core from shako and +3 to 2 more passives from an amulet. You could have some passives to 10 after masterworking
can't wait for the next mythic to unlock all the magic and rare nodes from the paragon boards
You don't need a mythic for that, with 300+ points and a limit of 5 boards including Starter Board you can easily unlock all now!
@@VinakaD4 what? how can you have ALL nodes on the boards if you can only have 5 boards? I didn't say "of the boards you have picked", when I said Paragon boards I meant ALL boards of your class.
EDIT: harlequin crest also givews you ranks to skills you haven't equiped or learned and shroud of the false death does the same with passives, so why would I suggest that this theoretical item would work differently?
@@Icy_Sparks ah got it, sry!
Diablo 4 = Diablo Gay
No it’s not.
No way. Tyrael’s is the BiS for survival.
nah plus one to all passives is way better for survival AND DAMAGE lol
Still meh item 🦦🍺
I’m like 99.999% sure that what you said is incorrect I can’t think of a single passive on the skill tree that doesn’t roll on gear
they arent even new transmogs, they're so damn lazy.
My guy stretched a video saying 20+ ranks to passives=good to over 20 minutes.
Not a bot here. But wish the game was fun . I cannot do that $40. I still have part of a soul in meh
If you don't like the game there's no need to pay the 40$.
I smell a mid season nerf coming in S6... not this item. Spiritborn 🤣🤌