Far Cry 2 once again the most realistic-sounding example of it. Not entirely there, but I recognised it immediately and it took me aback considering the amount of games I have heard this gun in but FC2 is the only one that audibly appears here.
Having owned a SPAS-12 I discovered that the *size* of the shot was immaterial; what mattered was the *weight* of the shot in a shell. 1 1/8oz loads and above would work reliably and consistently. 1oz loads worked some of the time but were unreliable. Less than 1oz loads would not cycle the action. It may be more accurate to describe the SPAS-12 in automatic mode as a "recoil assisted gas operated" OR "gas assisted recoil operated" weapon which I guess makes it even more unusual.
The powder load seems rather important too. Not specifically with the SPAS, but semi-auto shotguns in general, I find 1oz loaded to 1200fps MIGHT cycle, 1oz loaded to 1500fps or more WILL cycle. Interesting enough, I found you could go too far. I had 2oz turkey loads that were rather hot, and some of the recoil operated shotguns would not pick up the next round. I suspect the bolt speed was too high so the magazine was not feeding fast enough. Shotguns can be such finicky things.
It really depends on what type of semi-auto you have, too. Inertia based systems can short cycle easily if you don't brace it properly. The gas operated ones much more ammo dependent like the SPAS here.
From a serious introduction, ammunition testing to bad-ass-single-handed-blasting, that would make even the terminator proud! Ian McCollum is a very versatile specialist.
This is why Gordon freeman use his pump all day. Actually today is 20th anniversary for half life 2, which also starring in 'gun expert react' by ian. How coincidence!
You hit all the problems I had with Ammo when I owned one of these 35 years ago. High power hunting rounds worked fine in auto especially Winchester. Buckshot was limited in availability in the UK and we used Ely Alphamax, but the cases when fired were too long to eject when fired, and were designed for a hunting double or pump gun. Federal power shock and Ely short magnum BB worked like a dream…but expensive…
There’s still a few 2+1 restricted guns that can be bought on SGC rather than FAC. I often wondered whether this could be used in semi with standard birdshot loads for clays (with the knowledge it’s only for the hilarity/handicap factor of using something totally impractical). This video answers that question!
That was actually part of the sales pitch for the High Standard Model 10. It's shown in the brochure, along with a dozen other ways you use a free hand while holding your special one-handed shotgun. I wonder what was behind this being a trend in the '70s.
Man I never thought the sound of a firearm’s action could be so delightful to hear. The cycling of the bolt and the clacking of the loading gate, ooo. Who’d have thought such a beefy “function over form” weapon could be so perfect.
When the choice was a SPAS-12 or a Benelli M1 Super 90 I made the wrong choice by going with the SPAS. After a year I realized my mistake and sold the SPAS and bought the Benelli which had gone up in price. Guns are like girlfriends, don't get them just on looks alone.
That last shot triggered a memory of a Jurassic Park game I played a decade ago called Trespasser. You played as a female journalist after a plane crash if I remember right and the game's gimmick was that you had full control over every part of your arm that you used to interract with the world. The other arm was broken so unusable. To aim any gun you picked up you had to manually bend your wrist and elbow to see down the sights.
I had that game. There was a key that tried to align the sights but it was janky as heck. And most of the guns were G3s and other long rifles that the main character - voiced by Minnie Driver, before she was famous - could hold one-handed all day long, because she was superhuman.
@@AshleyPomeroy a long rifle like a G3 is pretty easy to fire one handed, given sufficent upper body strength. doing so, accurately is something i've yet to see though no matter how experienced or strong a guy trying it is
3:17 To further build on that theory, despite stovepipes being usually easy to clear, Dr. Grant likely did not have the knowledge on such, so once the shotgun stopped working, it was no longer fight for him, but flight. Source: IMFDB (there is even a screenshot showing said stovepipe in the page) And to add my own explanation, there's the fact that the raptors were already breaking through the windows. He was better off escaping with the rest than attempting solve the issue.
I just take issue with Muldoon stocking the Park with loads that wouldn't reliably cycle the shotguns, especially since in the novel he has them outfitted with what appear to be Carl Gustav Reccoilles Rifles instead.
That assumes the SPAS-12 was his choice, like in the book it could have been a case of Hammond forcing him to downgrade the arsenal. The other thing to consider is that Muldoon may not have worried about the rounds not cycling, as he could just use (and train others to use) the shotgun in pump mode.
@@CornishMoose At that point you'd be better off with a pump action to begin with, though. What's really odd is that the Wranglers are also seen outfitted with M16A2s in the opening sequence. If it were me, I'd probably prefer that to _any_ shotgun, even one loaded with slugs, as the ones at Jurassic Park seem to have been (if you look at the bullet holes in the glass, it looks to me like single projectiles).
I saw it in the first 15 minutes. No thumbnail, but I still had adverts. EDIT: "23 minutes ago" and now there's a thumbnail. Boring! EDIT 2: Hours later, there's a proper thumbnail on my Xbox, but still a grey rectangle on my iPad and iPhone.
I kinda regret not getting one of these when I would see these used in stores 15-20 years ago. They were cool and I loved them in movies and games, but everyone online was saying how terrible they were. I had the money, but at the time I felt I could get something better for the price. I was more into surplus, but I could get a better top of the line shotgun for less.
Everyone was having problems with them likely because everyone were likely trying to run the cheapest Wal-Mart bulk birdshot through it. I could never understand why anyone would pay a premium for a top tier gun and then try to run the cheapest ammo money can buy through it. This is what happened with the FN FNP-45. People paid 1200+ for the gun then tried to run the cheap WWB through it. WWB .45 is slightly out of NATO specs and won't properly fit in the FNP, which was designed around NATO spec ammo and is why we now have the FNX series.
@@tomwinterfishing9065 Yeah, I have plenty of silly gimmicky guns that I bought for fun or because they were cool. They were cheap though, or at least of good quality if they were expensive. At the time the SPAS wasn't super collectable. I probably spent the money on an SVT or early SP1 AR.
In the book it's because Hammond refused to allow Muldoon to have anything better. The thought was each dinosaur cost tens of millions and he didn't want them hurt. Most everyone got air powered tranq guns. Near the end they found Muldoon secret stash with high-powered auto rifles, grenades, and used then on the raptor nests. The movie tried to nod to the book as much as possible.
I've also notice on the game "Dead Island" when you use any pump action shotgun, it mimics the sound of the SPAS. Right down to the cash register ching when charging rounds😎
Its the legnth of the shotgun cartridge. Some say 67mm case, however if you measure it its not. It mainly happens on the cheaper ammo. Slightly longer ones too. As long as you run the right legnth shotgun cartridge, the gun runs fine. The same issue happens on the Benillie M3 SEMI AUTOM PUMP shotgun. Its not always the power of the cartridge.
Anyone remember this being used in the Wraith? During the scene shooting up the cars in the garage. Use to love this movie as a kid! It was always on HBO in the late 80s early 90s
I'm behind enemy lines in the Peoples Republik of Massachusetts where the SPAS 12 is specifically banned by name, so I won't be entering the drawing to win that one, but still a great video. I've heard about why these were designed with the manual mode but I've never seen any one actually shoot one light to heavy on film to actually see what it would run.
This is where a pump gun shines, no frills just reliable. A benelli sbe2 will work with anything, very reliable after broken in, even 7/8 ounce loads. Amazing, very expensive nowadays. Having both pump and auto together, complicates your manual of arms. Non-lethal loads belong in a dedicated pump perhaps painted in a very identifiable color.
The SPAS 12 was so cool in Jurassic Park, but even moreso, it's been a staple of videogame arsenals for over 25 years (mostly as a loadout) A friend of mine had a copy of Goldeneye with all the cheats and we were playing it summer of '97 and the SPAS was "the semiautomatic shotgun" I used it again in '99 in The world is not enough and GTA III in 2004. It was always configured in game with the stock folded over the top of the receiver with buckshot in manual mode. (Interestingly, the forearm was light green and perforated) As demonstrated by Ian, manual mode was used by police to cycle light "less lethal" loads. I saw one for real at a gun show in 2008.
On the Jurassic Park theory, I am of the firmly held belief that he ditched the SPAS-12 because he was out of ammo not that it stovepiped. It was also loaded with high brass slugs, evident by the 3 singular holes in the glass, 3 separate shots heard over the phone and the last hull being seen in the action. This has been my TED talk, thanks for reading
firing a shotgun one handed is the one universal flex everyone seems to think of independently no matter the situation they're in, at least with the SPAS-12 its somewhat practical
if you simply want a top folding stock for your 870 or Mossberg , Choate machine and tool makes them and a variety of other stocks for a variety of firearms that are surprisingly high quality.
had a LAW-12 that worked a treat but also didnt like cheap light ammo.. after watching this im glad i never went whole hog and got a SPAS this was just painful to watch.
The SPAS is actually quite reliable, if you're using the proper ammo for it. It was designed around combat loads, think high brass buckshot and slugs. Everything else is just hit or miss.
I never experienced any issues with the SPAS-12 cycling, but I do recall how uncomfortable that stock was. Best use for the hook is as a carry handle, as Ian demonstrated.
In terms of video games, Far Cry 2 once again is for me the most realistic-sounding example of it. Not entirely there, but I recognised it immediately and it took me aback considering the amount of games I have heard this gun in but FC2 is the only one that audibly appears here.
Very strange coincidence that my Benelli M1S90 just conveniently moved a tiny bit next to the door. It's loaded with heavy buck shot that does cycle fine. She's telling me and gently reminding me that going to the pawn shop to buy that awesome SPAS-12 and then seeing her poorly mistreated and highly mislabeled as a Mossberg M590A1 for $279.99 and buying her was a better deal after all. Yes miss Benneli, you were an awesome deal than that SPAS-12 on the wall for $899. You truly were the best steal of the century, Miss Benneli. Great video btw and sorry for all of the troubles with that SPAS-12.
The Franci 3" chambered, 32" barreled(guessing a wildfowl spec) 5 shot auto that dad bought about 1974-76? would not function with standard cartridges, a brief perusal of the enclosed instruction leaflet revealed that there was a fibre washer and another asysmetric washer, that was turned one way for the 3" magnum cartridges(which she had come specced to run), and tother way for the standard stuff. She believed flawlessly after that simple change, and with a mixed bax of assorted cartridges, down through the years..
Well, that's pretty cool. The hook serves a purpose, I'm just not sure the purpose was all that good of an idea anyways. It's still iconic. I'm more impressed that Ian one-handed it.
Well, that's the nature of LE and military "requirements." They dream up a bunch of hypotheticals and incorporate them into the specs delivered to contractors, then never actually utilize those features.
I so dearly wanted to see how that hook was supposed to work and you delivered, thank you! Now that I know I'm confused as to why we didn't see Arnold or someone similarly beefy doing some totally badass hollywood akimbo thing with two of these
you actually dont need to hold the button in to load the mag. Put it on pump, run it back, and there you go. Might take a lil practice with the shell placement b/c the elevator doesnt line up perfectly with the mag tube, but still, not button required
Great video. Issue I have with it though is that the size of the pellets going downrange is not really a measure of the amount of recoil firing it will create, it is the total weight of the load and to some extent the powder. 30 grams of birdshot will have more recoil that 24 grams of buckshot.
I still remember playing some FPS where they give you a spas 12 with dragon's breath. Not only were you able to shoot them apart but you were setting them on fire :)).
Ian, idk how to tell you this, but this video made me so excited I ruptured a blood vessel in my nose. That’s never happened before. 10/10 programming. Would watch again.
The 3D printer community just developed a receiver set to use AR15 barrel, BCG, mainspring, and mag to deliver the STG44 that PSA decided wasn't worth the trouble. Starting to wonder why nobody has started working on a SPAS-12 mod for a Mossberg 590 or Benneli M4.
The "clever" intro made my day. Thats the mental image that hits anyone my age who saw jurassic park and played half life. Spas12 is great forthose Leaping Zombie Chickens.
I hear it's great for home defence, along with the Uzi 9mm and the phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range
No .45 long slide with laser sight??
For home defence shotgun I prefer the Parncor Jackhammer. SPAS-12 has the modifier of +9 to Cool, but Jackhammer has +10 to Cool and Legendary rarity.
...and the Desert Eagle.
"YOU CAN'T DO THAT" "WRONG" 💥
"Just what you see pal!"
Man the sound of the shells going into the magazine is so iconic.
The sound of the action is so iconic!
Tim Walz was trying to make that sound!
half life 2 is free right now bc of the 20th anniversary
It sounds like a giant iron stamp being applied
Far Cry 2 once again the most realistic-sounding example of it. Not entirely there, but I recognised it immediately and it took me aback considering the amount of games I have heard this gun in but FC2 is the only one that audibly appears here.
Having owned a SPAS-12 I discovered that the *size* of the shot was immaterial; what mattered was the *weight* of the shot in a shell. 1 1/8oz loads and above would work reliably and consistently. 1oz loads worked some of the time but were unreliable. Less than 1oz loads would not cycle the action.
It may be more accurate to describe the SPAS-12 in automatic mode as a "recoil assisted gas operated" OR "gas assisted recoil operated" weapon which I guess makes it even more unusual.
I second these findings as well
Thirded.
The powder load seems rather important too. Not specifically with the SPAS, but semi-auto shotguns in general, I find 1oz loaded to 1200fps MIGHT cycle, 1oz loaded to 1500fps or more WILL cycle. Interesting enough, I found you could go too far. I had 2oz turkey loads that were rather hot, and some of the recoil operated shotguns would not pick up the next round. I suspect the bolt speed was too high so the magazine was not feeding fast enough. Shotguns can be such finicky things.
It really depends on what type of semi-auto you have, too. Inertia based systems can short cycle easily if you don't brace it properly. The gas operated ones much more ammo dependent like the SPAS here.
makes sense
From a serious introduction, ammunition testing to bad-ass-single-handed-blasting, that would make even the terminator proud! Ian McCollum is a very versatile specialist.
I always loved how this gun sounded in video games, didn't realize that heavy action actually sounded that way irl.
Yeah same, the sound of the action is really distinct
A video isn't real life.
Now you have to do The Terminator...SPAS in one hand and an Armalite AR-18 in the other!
The "Clever Girl" intro made my day.
I dont get it
@@Tr4wnetJurassic Park movie scene
thought he we being quiet because hunting wabbits
@@martist911wasits-not-real4 oh
Wrong hat
This is why Gordon freeman use his pump all day. Actually today is 20th anniversary for half life 2, which also starring in 'gun expert react' by ian. How coincidence!
I heard half life 3 is coming out soon
Great docu on HL2 on the Valve channel rn. Great bunch of guys, still dunno why they couldn't quite squeeze out a 3.
@@Menaceblue3I think Arnold Schwarzenegger used one in Terminator to kill the gun store owner.
Half Life 2 is currently free to grab on Steam
just in time for the hl2 anniversary!
An "infestation of Velociraptors"? That sounds like a crisis of dinosaurs to me.
You might even call it a Dino Crisis...
The mechanical cycling of the semi automatic spas is probably on the top ten most satisfying sounds
Rise and shine Mr. Ian, rise and...shine
Wake up and.... smell the ashes
Today is the 20th anniversary of Half-Life 2. Good day to have this video.
I search this comment
@@r3dmanMIC Ian knows how to post on time
just like Jesus, you will know him by his first name
You hit all the problems I had with Ammo when I owned one of these 35 years ago. High power hunting rounds worked fine in auto especially Winchester. Buckshot was limited in availability in the UK and we used Ely Alphamax, but the cases when fired were too long to eject when fired, and were designed for a hunting double or pump gun. Federal power shock and Ely short magnum BB worked like a dream…but expensive…
There’s still a few 2+1 restricted guns that can be bought on SGC rather than FAC.
I often wondered whether this could be used in semi with standard birdshot loads for clays (with the knowledge it’s only for the hilarity/handicap factor of using something totally impractical). This video answers that question!
The hook may also be handy if you also have a ballistic shield on your other arm.
That was actually part of the sales pitch for the High Standard Model 10. It's shown in the brochure, along with a dozen other ways you use a free hand while holding your special one-handed shotgun. I wonder what was behind this being a trend in the '70s.
@@604116 idk why it went away. if the original dawn of the dead is any metric a free hand is really useful
That sound is so incredibly good. Actually, both sounds are, automatic sounds badass, and manual mode sounds maybe even more badass.
This is right at the borderlne between cool and stupid.
I think there is actually some overlap :p
Cupid? Stool?
On the cool side are cupid stunts, whereas on the other side... 😁
Any sufficiently advanced stupid is indistinguishable from cool.
7:30 ATF just reclassified the SPAS as a braced-pistol ...
😂I was looking for this comment. Yeah they are working hard to straight up ban all hooks at this point.
They'd ban booger hooks if they could @@ImBlackjackYo
Hopefully we get Brandon Herrera as ATF director... It will be glorious if that came to pass.
Man I never thought the sound of a firearm’s action could be so delightful to hear. The cycling of the bolt and the clacking of the loading gate, ooo.
Who’d have thought such a beefy “function over form” weapon could be so perfect.
the sound of the bolt cycling is so satisfying when it works
My two most memorable days of owning a SPAS-12: 1) The day I bought it, 2) The day I sold it!
When the choice was a SPAS-12 or a Benelli M1 Super 90 I made the wrong choice by going with the SPAS. After a year I realized my mistake and sold the SPAS and bought the Benelli which had gone up in price. Guns are like girlfriends, don't get them just on looks alone.
Love the Robert Muldoon reference at the beginning
That last shot triggered a memory of a Jurassic Park game I played a decade ago called Trespasser. You played as a female journalist after a plane crash if I remember right and the game's gimmick was that you had full control over every part of your arm that you used to interract with the world. The other arm was broken so unusable. To aim any gun you picked up you had to manually bend your wrist and elbow to see down the sights.
Man, I instantly thought of that as well. How wobbly it looked when Ian one-handed it was just like I remember the game. Internet high-five!
I had that game. There was a key that tried to align the sights but it was janky as heck. And most of the guns were G3s and other long rifles that the main character - voiced by Minnie Driver, before she was famous - could hold one-handed all day long, because she was superhuman.
@@AshleyPomeroy a long rifle like a G3 is pretty easy to fire one handed, given sufficent upper body strength. doing so, accurately is something i've yet to see though no matter how experienced or strong a guy trying it is
The sound of that action is iconic
3:17
To further build on that theory, despite stovepipes being usually easy to clear, Dr. Grant likely did not have the knowledge on such, so once the shotgun stopped working, it was no longer fight for him, but flight.
Source: IMFDB (there is even a screenshot showing said stovepipe in the page)
And to add my own explanation, there's the fact that the raptors were already breaking through the windows. He was better off escaping with the rest than attempting solve the issue.
I just take issue with Muldoon stocking the Park with loads that wouldn't reliably cycle the shotguns, especially since in the novel he has them outfitted with what appear to be Carl Gustav Reccoilles Rifles instead.
That assumes the SPAS-12 was his choice, like in the book it could have been a case of Hammond forcing him to downgrade the arsenal.
The other thing to consider is that Muldoon may not have worried about the rounds not cycling, as he could just use (and train others to use) the shotgun in pump mode.
@@CornishMoose At that point you'd be better off with a pump action to begin with, though.
What's really odd is that the Wranglers are also seen outfitted with M16A2s in the opening sequence. If it were me, I'd probably prefer that to _any_ shotgun, even one loaded with slugs, as the ones at Jurassic Park seem to have been (if you look at the bullet holes in the glass, it looks to me like single projectiles).
1:23 Velociraptors, if I had a nickel for every velociraptor I engage daily…
I wouldn’t have any nickels. 🤷🏻♂️😁
1:07 holy moly mono audio. only comes from the left
This, hands-down, is one of the best channels ever. The quality and quantity of your content is amazing.
Ian is out here doing *all* the gun side-quests.
I heard it's The number one show in all of Elbonia.
It's too bad TH-cam is doing everything they can to kill off channels like this.
(And that's coming from a leftist pro gun-control guy)
The hook also allowed a LEO to hang the shotgun from the cruiser's bench seatback and hang at the ready for instant use.
-Special- …….ah *_Sporting_* Purpose Automatic Shotgun 😉🇮🇹
4:56 I read this box as “@uck and Peasant”.
You are not the only one😁
so thats how Gordon Freeman could shoot a spas12 while climbing up stairs
I always assumed that the hook was to allow a free hand for a shield if needed
The opening would’ve been better if someone appeared right next to you in one of those inflatable T. rex costumes😂
it was discussed
Here so early, the thumbnail is missing.
same lol
I saw it in the first 15 minutes. No thumbnail, but I still had adverts.
EDIT: "23 minutes ago" and now there's a thumbnail. Boring!
EDIT 2: Hours later, there's a proper thumbnail on my Xbox, but still a grey rectangle on my iPad and iPhone.
same here, thought the vid got 404' lol
The thumbnail is hiding in the tall grass.
It’s a new tax☹️
Task and purpose just made a "Clever Girl" reference today too😂
maybe the coolest sounding action ever. that metallic clang is awesome
I kinda regret not getting one of these when I would see these used in stores 15-20 years ago. They were cool and I loved them in movies and games, but everyone online was saying how terrible they were. I had the money, but at the time I felt I could get something better for the price. I was more into surplus, but I could get a better top of the line shotgun for less.
Everyone was having problems with them likely because everyone were likely trying to run the cheapest Wal-Mart bulk birdshot through it.
I could never understand why anyone would pay a premium for a top tier gun and then try to run the cheapest ammo money can buy through it.
This is what happened with the FN FNP-45. People paid 1200+ for the gun then tried to run the cheap WWB through it. WWB .45 is slightly out of NATO specs and won't properly fit in the FNP, which was designed around NATO spec ammo and is why we now have the FNX series.
Buying silly guns is a credible investment strategy 😂
@@tomwinterfishing9065 Yeah, I have plenty of silly gimmicky guns that I bought for fun or because they were cool. They were cheap though, or at least of good quality if they were expensive. At the time the SPAS wasn't super collectable. I probably spent the money on an SVT or early SP1 AR.
I used to have one in the 1980's.. I regret selling it.. and now I remember that metal whacking the cheek after you mentioned the stock
Yep, Ian attests to that @5:23
Officer Tenpenny's last stand against CJ and Grove Street families.
Aahh good ole “recreational” ammunition, I keep it right next to my recreational sword and recreational flame thrower.
Along with the recreational mortar.
Are you saying people can't shoot recreationally? Or what's your point?
I never understood how the zookeeper in Jurassic Park thought a 12 gauge was enough stopping power to stop a Velociraptor. (Actually a Deinonychus)
In the book it's because Hammond refused to allow Muldoon to have anything better. The thought was each dinosaur cost tens of millions and he didn't want them hurt. Most everyone got air powered tranq guns. Near the end they found Muldoon secret stash with high-powered auto rifles, grenades, and used then on the raptor nests. The movie tried to nod to the book as much as possible.
@davemcdaniel4856 Thanks! Interesting.
00, 000, or Slugs would be perfectly adequate for Deinonychus.
Proof positive: Shotguns are for birds.
I've also notice on the game
"Dead Island" when you use any pump action shotgun, it mimics the sound of the SPAS.
Right down to the cash register ching when charging rounds😎
Its the legnth of the shotgun cartridge. Some say 67mm case, however if you measure it its not. It mainly happens on the cheaper ammo. Slightly longer ones too. As long as you run the right legnth shotgun cartridge, the gun runs fine. The same issue happens on the Benillie M3 SEMI AUTOM PUMP shotgun. Its not always the power of the cartridge.
Anyone remember this being used in the Wraith? During the scene shooting up the cars in the garage. Use to love this movie as a kid! It was always on HBO in the late 80s early 90s
I'm behind enemy lines in the Peoples Republik of Massachusetts where the SPAS 12 is specifically banned by name, so I won't be entering the drawing to win that one, but still a great video. I've heard about why these were designed with the manual mode but I've never seen any one actually shoot one light to heavy on film to actually see what it would run.
It's called a Shepherd's crook, Ian. Shot a SPAS-12 with a group of USG reps when the gun was first imported back in the day.
This is where a pump gun shines, no frills just reliable. A benelli sbe2 will work with anything, very reliable after broken in, even 7/8 ounce loads. Amazing, very expensive nowadays. Having both pump and auto together, complicates your manual of arms. Non-lethal loads belong in a dedicated pump perhaps painted in a very identifiable color.
The SPAS-12 is such an iconic gun it makes me really happy, thanks to so many badass characters it has become a staple on the internet😎.
4:55 What Pheasant-?! Unfortunate finger placement there for a moment. 😅
The SPAS 12 was so cool in Jurassic Park, but even moreso, it's been a staple of videogame arsenals for over 25 years (mostly as a loadout)
A friend of mine had a copy of Goldeneye with all the cheats and we were playing it summer of '97 and the SPAS was "the semiautomatic shotgun" I used it again in '99 in The world is not enough and GTA III in 2004. It was always configured in game with the stock folded over the top of the receiver with buckshot in manual mode. (Interestingly, the forearm was light green and perforated)
As demonstrated by Ian, manual mode was used by police to cycle light "less lethal" loads.
I saw one for real at a gun show in 2008.
On the Jurassic Park theory, I am of the firmly held belief that he ditched the SPAS-12 because he was out of ammo not that it stovepiped. It was also loaded with high brass slugs, evident by the 3 singular holes in the glass, 3 separate shots heard over the phone and the last hull being seen in the action.
This has been my TED talk, thanks for reading
Thanks Ian
firing a shotgun one handed is the one universal flex everyone seems to think of independently no matter the situation they're in, at least with the SPAS-12 its somewhat practical
I have a SPAS-12. Mine has the pistol grip stock. I learned very quickly it likes hot ammo.
Thumbnail on phone is saying "nothing to see hear" lol
if you simply want a top folding stock for your 870 or Mossberg , Choate machine and tool makes them and a variety of other stocks for a variety of firearms that are surprisingly high quality.
Lmao i thought we were getting Ian SPAS-12 ASMR for a sec
Guess just the sound of it cycling when fired will suffice, and it does.
(3 hours after release)
YT has the video as a "No Thumbnail", the normal grey and 3 dots background. Good shooting vid tho
I think it would have been interesting loading a tube starting with the "heaviest to lightest" 1 shell of each and see where it stops.
I love that in some videos Ian is nerding out about history in periodically correct clothes... in others he's shooting a spas 12 one handed
Ian never misses a chance for cosplay.
Except the hook is specifically designed for one-handed shooting if needed?
had a LAW-12 that worked a treat but also didnt like cheap light ammo..
after watching this im glad i never went whole hog and got a SPAS this was just painful to watch.
The SPAS is actually quite reliable, if you're using the proper ammo for it. It was designed around combat loads, think high brass buckshot and slugs. Everything else is just hit or miss.
Ian, please never stop.
8:55 - "Urraaaaagh. (*BLAM* *BLAM *BLAM*) Hooo." - Ian McCollum, 2024
I never experienced any issues with the SPAS-12 cycling, but I do recall how uncomfortable that stock was. Best use for the hook is as a carry handle, as Ian demonstrated.
Thanks!
Yes! was waiting for this!
One of the guns I never really wanted. I remember when I got to shoot a Benelli and I fell in love with it. The SPAS-12 just seemed clunky to me.
Just the thing I needed after a shitty morning.
This reminds me of those goofy early semi auto rifles that could be switched to bolt action.
I hope that Jurassic Park reference always stays with the SPAS 12
Or the "its a f___ing anti aircraft gun Vincent" from Snatch.
@@tychothefriendlymonolithgreat film.😊
0:00 I imagined David Attenborough narrating the entire thing
Knew exactly what was coming but I couldn't help laughing at "clever girl"
Not exactly straight forward but dram equivalent is a reasonably good way to move up the recoil scale. Neat conversation piece.
In terms of video games, Far Cry 2 once again is for me the most realistic-sounding example of it. Not entirely there, but I recognised it immediately and it took me aback considering the amount of games I have heard this gun in but FC2 is the only one that audibly appears here.
Very strange coincidence that my Benelli M1S90 just conveniently moved a tiny bit next to the door. It's loaded with heavy buck shot that does cycle fine. She's telling me and gently reminding me that going to the pawn shop to buy that awesome SPAS-12 and then seeing her poorly mistreated and highly mislabeled as a Mossberg M590A1 for $279.99 and buying her was a better deal after all.
Yes miss Benneli, you were an awesome deal than that SPAS-12 on the wall for $899.
You truly were the best steal of the century, Miss Benneli. Great video btw and sorry for all of the troubles with that SPAS-12.
The Jurassic Park intro was 🤗
Always makes me think of the Voyager episode where a militia only has SPAS12s and full auto M16s
Ian finally kinda doing a TFB TV burndown
Vinny: "This is a shotgun, Sol"
Sol: "It's a fucking anti-aircraft gun, Vincent!"
- Snatch, 2000
The Franci 3" chambered, 32" barreled(guessing a wildfowl spec) 5 shot auto that dad bought about 1974-76? would not function with standard cartridges, a brief perusal of the enclosed instruction leaflet revealed that there was a fibre washer and another asysmetric washer, that was turned one way for the 3" magnum cartridges(which she had come specced to run), and tother way for the standard stuff. She believed flawlessly after that simple change, and with a mixed bax of assorted cartridges, down through the years..
"The 12g auto loader."
"That's Italian, it can go pump or auto."
The most iconic shotgun there is.
1:18 listening out of one ear is uncomfortable
I only had one earbud in and was treated to uncomfortable staticy silence 😂
Hell yea
The coolest scene where that shotgun has been used when The Terminator assaults the police station 😍
Well, that's pretty cool. The hook serves a purpose, I'm just not sure the purpose was all that good of an idea anyways.
It's still iconic. I'm more impressed that Ian one-handed it.
Well, that's the nature of LE and military "requirements." They dream up a bunch of hypotheticals and incorporate them into the specs delivered to contractors, then never actually utilize those features.
Why somebody doesn’t bring this shotgun back, fix the reliability issues and start manufacturing it again. So iconic
I so dearly wanted to see how that hook was supposed to work and you delivered, thank you! Now that I know I'm confused as to why we didn't see Arnold or someone similarly beefy doing some totally badass hollywood akimbo thing with two of these
We're actually allowed these in the Uk as long as it is "fixed" stock not folding . Theyre approx £2000 on the used market
you actually dont need to hold the button in to load the mag. Put it on pump, run it back, and there you go. Might take a lil practice with the shell placement b/c the elevator doesnt line up perfectly with the mag tube, but still, not button required
Great video. Issue I have with it though is that the size of the pellets going downrange is not really a measure of the amount of recoil firing it will create, it is the total weight of the load and to some extent the powder. 30 grams of birdshot will have more recoil that 24 grams of buckshot.
Such a intro. Iconic by the iconic historian, when you getting the phased plasma rifle on?
I still remember playing some FPS where they give you a spas 12 with dragon's breath. Not only were you able to shoot them apart but you were setting them on fire :)).
I know in CoD Black Ops they gave you the spas 12 with dragons breath. Which is funny considering the game takes place in the 60s.
Ian, idk how to tell you this, but this video made me so excited I ruptured a blood vessel in my nose. That’s never happened before. 10/10 programming. Would watch again.
I wanted one of those so bad back in the day.
I just realized that hook was a pistol brace before pistol braces were cool.
I loved the Jurassic Park intro reference, fantastic video as always!
The 3D printer community just developed a receiver set to use AR15 barrel, BCG, mainspring, and mag to deliver the STG44 that PSA decided wasn't worth the trouble. Starting to wonder why nobody has started working on a SPAS-12 mod for a Mossberg 590 or Benneli M4.
I believe it’s better for head crabs than velociraptors.😂
Just learnt something new 🤔 had no idea the quality of the ammunition effected the recycling of a firearm👍
The "clever" intro made my day. Thats the mental image that hits anyone my age who saw jurassic park and played half life. Spas12 is great forthose Leaping Zombie Chickens.