You said that after the Bar Kochba revolt, the Jewish people were expelled from the land and there were no more Jews in the land. I disagree with that. There was a remnant of Jews who remained and there was always a remnant of Jews continuously in the land. It is also believed that there has always been a remnant of Messianic Jews in the land. That is extremely important. Also, at the time of the birth of the nation of Israel, there were in fact 28 Messianic Jews living in Tel Aviv, the only Messianic Jews in Israel at that time. This is important too. It is important to inform people of these facts because it also displays God's covenant keeping promises to the Jewish people.
@@hippopotamus6765 I am not saying they did not dispurse to the diaspora. They did in fact, in large and great many majority. However, I am just saying there was always a Jewish presense in the Holy Land, and there was never a time when there were "no more" Jews in the land, as Nic said in his teaching.
@@christinanewman7109 Agree, yes there were Jews remaining in Israel for sure. However, Christianity first took hold in Turkey and Greece, not Jerusalem.
@@hippopotamus6765 "Christianity" as in the Gentile Church took hold in the 3rd century in Turkey and Greece, yes. But, the FIRST Church was comprised of Jewish believers in Jerusalem, and the Galilee, and throughout Israel. The first believers were all Jewish. They did not call themselves "Christians", they called themselves followers of Messiah in "the way", which was one of many forms of Judaism in the first century. Jesus came to the "lost sheep of Israel", not to the lost pagens of the Gentiles. Jesus didn't come to start a new religion - He was fulfilling Jewish prophesies spoken by Jewish men, written down in a Jewish book (the Tanakh - the Old Testament), as inspired by God. His disciples were all Jewish, and they brought the gospel to the Gentiles later, along with Paul, who was also Jewish. The bible is a Jewish book, inspired by God, and written by Jewish men, for a Jewish audiance. We, as Gentiles, are grafted into them, but we do not replace them. In the first century, there were many gods of all the nations, it was common knowledge. As such, we Gentile believers actually believe in the "Jewish God", or "The God of Israel", or "The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob". Gentile believers in the first century had to learn about the God of Israel in order to follow the Messiah of Israel, which they learned from Jewish believers who were the first believers.
You said that after the Bar Kochba revolt, the Jewish people were expelled from the land and there were no more Jews in the land. I disagree with that. There was a remnant of Jews who remained and there was always a remnant of Jews continuously in the land. It is also believed that there has always been a remnant of Messianic Jews in the land. That is extremely important. Also, at the time of the birth of the nation of Israel, there were in fact 28 Messianic Jews living in Tel Aviv, the only Messianic Jews in Israel at that time. This is important too. It is important to inform people of these facts because it also displays God's covenant keeping promises to the Jewish people.
Agree, but the diaspora fled to Alexandria, Athens, Ephesus, Sinope etc, with Christianity developing in today's Turkey.
Israel has never existed for over the past 3000 years without jews in it.
@@hippopotamus6765 I am not saying they did not dispurse to the diaspora. They did in fact, in large and great many majority. However, I am just saying there was always a Jewish presense in the Holy Land, and there was never a time when there were "no more" Jews in the land, as Nic said in his teaching.
@@christinanewman7109 Agree, yes there were Jews remaining in Israel for sure. However, Christianity first took hold in Turkey and Greece, not Jerusalem.
@@hippopotamus6765 "Christianity" as in the Gentile Church took hold in the 3rd century in Turkey and Greece, yes. But, the FIRST Church was comprised of Jewish believers in Jerusalem, and the Galilee, and throughout Israel. The first believers were all Jewish. They did not call themselves "Christians", they called themselves followers of Messiah in "the way", which was one of many forms of Judaism in the first century. Jesus came to the "lost sheep of Israel", not to the lost pagens of the Gentiles. Jesus didn't come to start a new religion - He was fulfilling Jewish prophesies spoken by Jewish men, written down in a Jewish book (the Tanakh - the Old Testament), as inspired by God. His disciples were all Jewish, and they brought the gospel to the Gentiles later, along with Paul, who was also Jewish. The bible is a Jewish book, inspired by God, and written by Jewish men, for a Jewish audiance. We, as Gentiles, are grafted into them, but we do not replace them. In the first century, there were many gods of all the nations, it was common knowledge. As such, we Gentile believers actually believe in the "Jewish God", or "The God of Israel", or "The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob". Gentile believers in the first century had to learn about the God of Israel in order to follow the Messiah of Israel, which they learned from Jewish believers who were the first believers.
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More Dogma, maybe just extra tiring word salad that makes my head explode trying to make sense of it.