Psychologist: I'm not giving Kohberger posts credence | Banfield
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- The Hidden True Crime community discovered disturbing online posts that Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger may have written more than 10 years ago, when he was a teenager. After examining the posts, Dr. Rebecca Bailey tells "Banfield" that "this man to me is a psychopath... to be honest, anything that he's saying, I'm not gonna give it a whole lot of credence." Forensic psychologist Dr. Kris Mohandie also weighs in.
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That woman is no therapist I would want to see
I agree.
the gent could be simply on the spectrum - asd.
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all shall be revealed in good time.!
#truthseekersunite
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Thats 💯
Also the worst part is She didnt even bother to give a proper analyze of the person regarding those writings. They are borderline psychopathic and the hatred he feels inside is enormous as expected. Its clear now he wanted to share his pain with the World.
she can't separate her emotional response from a clinical analysis. That's a flaw!
Like every teen going through those dark depressed years hasn’t written a journal or something like this. This is so ridiculous, Banfield and the like making news stories like this is why people cannot stand the media
I took the time to read all 102 pages of the alleged BK, and I have my take on this, it is a platform where a teen boy is expressing how he feels about being diagnosed with VS on 9-21-09. All the emotions he expressed, about depression and seeing his life in a void are exactly that, how when we are teens, we make the tiniest insecurity the end of the world. He is trying to find a solution to his "disability", and at one point he embraces it. He mentions that taking Topamax did not work for him, because it even made him break a table, as part of the medication's side effects (aggression). He goes on to realize that VS is caused by an imbalance of chemicals, and that taking medicine for this condition, "makes it even more imbalance". So, he sets on to try a specific diet that will help him with this condition in the form of detoxication. He feels more at ease having this condition when others relate to him in similar ways.
One must try not to relate every little alleged finding about the alleged suspect with what happened at 1122 Kings Rd. I am no expert, but when I read it, I read it as if this was not pertaining to the alleged suspect. If you read ALL the messages including the other users', this is what my take was. At that age, most tend to exaggerate many things. I was once a teen, and thought was not as physically attractive in society's eyes and felt it was the end of the world, as you mature you realize there were deeper issues. It is so easy to take this alleged writing and attempt to correlate it to a suspect who allegedly committed a heinous act.
There actually might be a lot to it. Multiple personality disorder was changed to derealization and depersonalization in the DSM 5. Those are very heavy psychiatric diagnosis right up there with schizophrenia. They’re not only the writings of a depressed teenager in my opinion.
But I only know what they are because of a friend getting off of prescription medication‘s and experiencing just a touch of depersonalization.
I tend to enjoy psychology much more than psychiatry. Organic problems with the brain tend to scare me a bit.
@@lisasmith7066 Think you might be surprised by that. People I know personally, including myself, have found old diaries or whatever and read what was expressed at that time and thought, “oh yeah forgot about feeling that way, damn dude…”
This is why it’s important for a parent to never read their child’s diary, because humans can express themselves in writing, especially when feeling protected from someone viewing it, in concerning and shocking ways. I guarantee if you read literally anyones journal or diary that has lived, you’d come to a conclusion that this person needs to see someone.
No telling how many, what kind of strong meds this guy was on from childhood. And I think they need to stop medicating children at such a young age. People don't realize the horrible side effects from these meds, and especially if you go "off and on" them.. switch them up constantly. You become a total mess of a person. And as a young person, you're already going through so much. I think they're screwing people up worse with all these chemicals, and I'd stay away from them, and if you want to quit meds.. never quit cold turkey. Take a year to slowly lower it. Even withdrawal from a supposedly low level med like Prozac can be a horrific deal. Our grandparents were not medicated like this, and their experience in this life was totally different. I think they're making a mistake by pushing all these psych meds on everyone. It's really scary to me.
Thank you for this comment. This stuff is getting absolutely ridiculous.
teenagers write this crap all the time..
Yes, exactly. This kind of angst and alienation is neither uncommon nor predictive that you will be slaughtering innocent people a decade later.
Many years later i still feel the disconnect. Thankfully, i don't have murderous thoughts.
Can news nation please start posting the entire clips instead of cutting them off abruptly
That'd be nice!
The psychologist doesn’t seem a psychologist. It’s not appropriate to just diagnose someone based on writings, considering the developmental stages of human. He should have felt that on his teenage years but a decase has past, and seems like Kohberger has makign sense of his life thru studying. This psychologist is very disappointing
@@jennyfragrance8246 definitely 💯
It's considered medical malpractice to dx a person you have not personally, professionally, examined them.
I do not know who is more dangerous: Bryan not yet convicted or a psychologist who, to my understanding, has never treated, known or examined Bryan personally and in depth ... making these incriminating bold statements on national TV! Could Bryan be a psychopath? Naturally, but this is for somebody to say who has studied him in depth.
Yes, she was extremely reckless and unprofessional!
Well said agree
Omg Ty! I can’t believe she said “with a psychopath like this” like how ? You’ve never spoken to the man he’s not convicted yet you don’t even know if he did it. I’m scared to know that people like her can diagnose individuals who actually seek their help.
These professionals are getting disgusting with their commentary. It shows how compromising television appearances are when networks bring you on to say what they want you to say.
@@Dracarys.. you can’t diagnose someone as a psychopath if you’ve never worked with them personally or know anything about them. She’s diagnosis someone based on he said she said and a potential crime committed that isn’t yet confirmed. She literally said she can’t speak on his writing because of “psychopaths” like him but how does she even know that? How did she determine he’s a psychopath if she can’t analyze his writing and never heard him speak. It’s like expecting a medical doctor to diagnose someone with Covid because he said she said they have a high temperatures and a cough. Uh no, they run test, they confirm your temperature, they use tangible and observable data. Don’t take someone’s word just because they tell you they’re an expert.
Nothing but self-pity
She calls herself a doctor!?! It is so unprofessional to say all those things about the person who you even didn't know, didn't talk. It is horrible what people are doing to show themselves in national TV... Sad ..
Definitely disagree with the woman who says he's "...laying a very manipulative trap for the future." I think the writings are genuine expressions of his thoughts and feelings. Everybody questions their existence and the meaning of it all at some point. Part of it is simply teenage angst. And some of it reveals a darker side of hopelessness, frustration and anger.
Agree! The psychologist is very disappointing. Seems like she’s not a pro
agreed
I agree that he was genuinely expressing frustration and depression. However, I agree with her that he is likely a psychopath. Maybe she shouldn't have stated it with 100% certainty, but he has all of the markers. (Really the clinical term is Antisocial Personality Disorder.) He himself admits he has zero remorse or empathy and delusions of grandeur. That's not normal teenage depression. He is clearly a narcissist as we can see from his behavior and the multiple accounts of people saying he always has to be #1 in the room. Also, we know he has high intelligence in some ways (his academics) but very poor judgment and impulse control in how he committed these murders.
It would also be pretty extraordinary to start making internet posts meant to use in your defense for crimes you don’t plan to commit for a decade. I found it very odd that the psychiatrist said she thought these writings were laying a groundwork for the future. Seems like pretty normal teenage angst to me, especially if he was a loner type.
@@Jacks_Mom i mean i have written dark stuff like that in my late past ,, but i didnt go out killing people ,, but then again i guess when somebody is charged for murder every little detail about them becomes a target for accusations that are or could be un related to the crime . Waiting for the preliminary hearing and also maybe more evidence or not ,, to come ^^
she shouldn’t be any kind of doctor since she just stated she has NO compassion…
Guys can have some pretty unsettling teen angst. Look at the lyrics written by male musicians across musical genres and poetry by published and unpublished authors. Alienation is a recurring theme.
true but their music/creativity gives them a positive outlet, something that this guy didn't seem to have.
@@darkviolet69 We don't know that, though. If he did this, then it went to hell in a basket. If he didn't, then he did actually cope with it and got his life more in order. Most people struggle at some level and especially as teens. It seems we know very little about his life and the constant leaks, even though everybody has a gag order, is very suspicious to me. Makes me wonder if they actually have as much hard evidence as they try to tell us, if they need these leaks to sway opinions.
its called "existential despair" ....
Mental health issues are real. And unfortunately alot in our jail system are mental health and addiction issues.
Wish we had more options for help before rather than after.
Ok but using mental health issues to excuse sadistic murders screams a big big NO. This guy is evil, period. He deserves the death penalty, nothing less.
@@carolinemcallister692 did i say it was an excuse...? No
Most fail to seek mental health help. Even with the new 988 number. And many mentally ill that were prescribed medication fail to take it. This is information given to me by my daughter who happens to work at a hospital.
@Roger McMillan you better do some research. Africa 85 percent of the people with depression. Have no access to effective treatment, October 2022. There is also Mexico and Australia. So learn to pick your battles. Here in the US, all you have to do is call 988.
That individual is innocent until proven guilty! I am so sick and tired of media giving us their narrative, being biased!
I think the tapatalk messages seem the most legit than any I’ve seen.
Is disgusting to hear what the supposedly psychologist had said without any care or concerns in such a prolific case. The ramifications for her public statements is extremely damaging for the judicial process.
completely
agreed
@@Dracarys.. because you don't publicly voice your professional opinions on someone you e never treated let alone in an open, active quadruple homicide case. You can't form any type of opinion based on a decade old post let; she'd need to actually interact with this individual, spend hours getting to know them and analyzing them and then, only then, would she be even remotely qualified to voice her opinion in the privacy of her own home not on TH-cam. She lacks every single tool needed to form such wreckless opinions.
@@jennyfragrance8246 agrred
agreed sorry typos
obviously young when he was saying this and all I can think about is how sad it is there are so many kids who are this hard on themselves. mental health is the world's biggest issue. that's why life is what it is tho. everyone's different. but it's sad. you wanna say oh I only feel bad for kids like this but those adults use to be kids and never learned to be better. it struck me one time I heard a serial killer (I think Bundy)say he only felt alive while killing. that normal life he feels nothing. sad that these lost souls ruin their and the victims lives.
If there's no treatment and also no empathy, then what??
A bullet lol
Bryan koleburger. You have committed crimes against the United States and her people. What do you have to say in your defense.... 🔫
I understand that and he deserves the worst but I would like to see some form of intervention before people have to die.
LOL, sure. He wrote over 100 pages worth of posts as a kid on an obscure message board in 2011 and it was a long con all along for a murder he was planning years ahead. Occam's razor: he likely was genuinely spiraling.
ikr. I think the woman who said that needs her head examined.
It sounded like the other speaker was about to give a more detailed analysis, but they decided to cut the clip just as it was getting interesting. Why wouldn’t the woman say Anti-social personality disorder instead of psychopath if she really knew her onions?
@@MrsGypsumFantastic I agree. She should have said, "It appears to me that he has Antisocial Personality Disorder, though this would need to be properly diagnosed." Then she could explain the signs and why she thinks that way.
"Suspect saw himself as a 'sack of meat' as a teen"
I won't lie, the fact that it made a news headline is a bit hilarious.
more like this is a sack of BS!!
I would think a psychologist would understand his post more in a much deeper level than the regular Joe, but I guess not. She sees it in a shallow level just like all of us 😂 Who knew that I could be a psychologist 😂🤷🏻♀️
Not every psychologist is good
My husband started drinking alcohol again after a psychologist praised him for stopping 10yrs of being an alcoholic
Shè gave him the confidence that he is absolutely powerful to do anything
Now he is back to being an alcoholic n abuses us more
Its getting worser....😭
Once they become "tv" all their credentials go out the window. They are their simply to advance whatever narrative has been decided.
Yeah I thought she would go more in depth but she’s just explaining what she’s seeing on the outside I think there was more troubling stuff in Brian’s mind half of that stuff he said I’ve never ever heard come from another crazy person also his condition VS was real and that probably had something to do with the way he was feeling about himself
Yes! Agree 💯
@@shireenramnarain4005 don't stay, leave
How can she call someone a psychopath without having ever met him and only having read minimal amounts of writings from when he was a teenager? I can’t take her analysis seriously.
I don’t think he wrote this knowing what he is going to do in the future. This was 10 years ago, it’s ridiculous to think he wrote all of it so that he has now a way out and excuses for his actions. and yes a lot of people have teen angst but this is different. that aren’t just normal teenager thoughts and struggles. I wonder if he ever talked about these tormenting health issues and thoughts. if it’s true that he has visual snow, that alone is terrible to live with but to have these other problems on top. not that it’s an excuse for what he did, if he is the one but I can only imagine what a difference it would have made if he had spoken about it openly and got some help. Idk maybe he did. we can only speculate what went wrong but something did obviously and it’s sad that a person has so limited empathy for others that he feels the need to take multiple lives. that’s why it’s so important to raise our children the right way, spend time with them and to be really interested in their whole life, thoughts and beliefs. not saying his parents are bad. but it seems they don’t know him at all, just the facade he put up.
If u can't sum up your thoughts into a few sentences, then you probably haven't thought it through very well, and you can't expect people to even consider reading it.
@@bigdino0035 I read it
@@josie4peace thx 😊
Some of the things I have written in diaries and journals....eek....I wonder what they would say about ME !!
Whether this is or isn't Bryan, people tend to embellish their feelings.
you made me laugh
And teenagers are very dramatic, even without a depression.
@@Zmdec12 lol 😉
@@purpledragonfly313 absolutely !! Every other day it's the end of the world haha
@@RainingRebecca Exactly! And as a teenager it genuinely feels that way. Every time!
Nonsense.. 99% of teen-agers feel like that, myself included and I am no murderer or psychopath.
I've been a teenager, and I've heard other teenagers talk about their issues. "Lack of empathy and remorse" and "delusions of grandeur" are not terms I have ever heard from anyone. Have you? That's not normal. Those ARE textbook traits of Antisocial Personality Disorder, though (ASPD) aka psychopathy informally.
Major red flag when a supposed professional in psychology deems that tired out outdated and under developed view that true psychopaths have no feelings or ability to emote. (her ref to these writings & feeling no credence).
These types of people struggle indefinitely with self image problems. But it is a leading mistake to think they do not feel. Everything they do is motivated by emotion, whether that be a feeling of hate, jealousy. distaste, disgust, etc. People have continued to be one track minded when it comes to understanding psychopathy. It is not simple, they are not unemotional people. They are calculating and intelligent people, they understand emotion by witness to it. And it is in that understanding that they become dangerous. But don't be mistaken, they feel, A LOT. But it is all self directed, It is usually one of two extremes. Complete denial that anything is wrong with them, their narcissism and grandiose behaviour are emotions, self reflecting. Then there is their usually lesser opinion of others (apart from the one person, that gets the pedestal) full of disgust, hate, judgement and jealousy. Quite contrarily the life of a psychopath? Is completed dictated by warped emotion.Yes, some commit terrible acts and do terrible things in order to possibly gain a sense of feeling, or emotion. But that is fleeting. I do not believe it is solely about crime committing to feel something. Psychopathy can also run co-morbidly with other disorders, histrionic personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, and many more. So again the whole idea of emotion being void gets more complicated if other aspects of diagnosis traits or whole possible diagnosis become attributed. I could go on, but I would be here half the day ahah! These are just my own opinions about observations in this news segment. I will also add the admittance that emotion was one of my motivating factors in writing this. I have been close to these labels before. So I know partly my response is part a defense because I felt an emotion alongside the disagreement with this persons opinion. Anyway! Congrats if you read all this! And thanks! Toodles!
She didn't say she was basing her opinion off his lack of ability to emote. She was likely basing it off the fact that he said he has delusions of grandeur and no empathy or remorse.
@@automnejoy5308 if you didn't listen she completely says she would find these writings to have no credence to her if it were to be verified as him.
@@automnejoy5308 oh and did you not read my full post? Clearly not.. As you'd have seen i have already covered those points quite clearly.. So what exactly is your point here for trying to argue with me?
@@jennyfragrance8246 thank you! Most people still wanna argue even if they're saying what I've already explained.. Absolutely nonsensical.
@@justifyingjade I did read your full post. I guess you did not read my short comment. You said she came to her conclusion because she thinks he has no ability to emote or no ability to feel. She never said any of that. I'm saying she probably came to the conclusion that he is a psychopath because of his narcissism and lack of empathy and remorse. Those are the biggest markers of ASPD/psychopathy. And he has others, as well, including comorbidities of anxiety and depression or possibly other mental disorders (which you mentioned). Sensation seeking (his drug addiction is indicative of that). Aggressive behavior (wanting to fight other kids at school and becoming a boxer). High intelligence/poor judgment paradox. Lack of impulse control while also being calculated. He outright states "lack of empathy" and "delusions of grandeur" in his posts. And we see it in his behavior and several accounts by those who knew him. So it's certainly not a stretch to think he is a psychopath. However, I DO NOT think she should outright state he is a psychopath so blatantly in the way that she did, even though it's highly likely. He should be properly diagnosed, and she should have added that. And I do NOT agree when she says she would find the posts to have no credence. I think these posts are genuine cries for help from a teenager. I think he was frustrated because he didn't really know what was wrong with him, or was in denial that it was a psychological disorder -- instead attributing it all to Visual Snow. He knew the symptoms, just didn't know what he actually had. He probably realized it was ASPD in college when he was majoring in psychology. And I think he kept it to himself. The more he felt alienated and unable to connect with others, the more he embraced his psychopathy and his negative impulses.
The more we learn about this guy, the more we realize the disturbing truth, that he's like a lot of people.
Yeh... A real selfie.. Life was all about me, my thoughts, my feelings, me me me. I wonder if he ever did something for others ? Any kind of service, or even have a real job ? I heard he didn't. I wonder if these comments he posted were before or after he was on heroin ? I do see that there was demonic activity at work in his mind already then. This got worse over time, & I think by the time he did the murders he was demon possessed. That means they completely control his mind. This would explain how he could kill four people as well. They have superhuman strenght while doing the murders. Kill for the thrill. Motive : Satanic hate.... thats it ! Satanic murders are always bloody & vicious. Savage really ! Now that he's been arrested you can expect him to lie and deny ! He'll plead not guilty, but God isn't playing games !
Wow so true 😅
@@wqv5423ln 1 John 5: 19
My view is, having a connection to one of victims is not priority. His motive seems clear looking at his past. We know it was a party house, Taxi drivers have stated it was a well known place for drugs and the like. This Bryan character feels little or no emotion, killing MAY solve a lot of his torment , short term satisfaction. Then feeling build till his urges send him to do same again. Another factor may be at play here :
You know how some smokers give up the habit then become the worst anti smoking exponents.
A drug addict, rehab twice (heroin and other stuff ) cleaned up, works flat out academic and physical training all contribute, but the shrinks in rehab fail to recognise his underlying thinking, probably the reason he became a junkie in the first place to attempt to escape it. It would explain his choice of academic route. He knows how to be obsessive to achieve and with it may come traits of narcissism.
Hindsight is 20/20. Lots of teenagers suffer from severe emotional angst and feelings of alienation -- without turning into vicious murderers. Appreciated that Dr. Mohandie stressed that he has not been convicted yet so we should probably not rush to judgement that these rambling posts prove he's a psychopath.
Who hasn't felt like that? Like just part of a system, lost and purposeless?
This is a case of a huge news story in modern times. Bosses say that the story can't go 6 hours without a "new scoop" so we get Ash talking about posts from 10 years ago lol. Somehow people know his old email and discovered posts on a platform most of us have never heard of. Combative? The guy simply said he wouldn't fall for a scam. Yea, very combative. This is getting ridiculous.
There's a term for what Ashley is doing: digging for social media post from long ago, to judge them according to today's cultic woke ideologies. The term is "PRESENTing" as in "present day." There's another term for the same thing: lame.
It's at the point now where media finds any case they can milk the most $ and views from no matter what
@@snoot4873 exactly
The knife emoji was the “combative” regard.
@@paigeawin Ohboy....you''re one of those people who just learned the term woke in the last 2 years on Fox and Newsmax (who repeat it ad nauseam) and thinks it's new and repeats it like a parrot every where you can. Nothing is "woke" in this interview. Nothing "woke" about digging through social media. Nothing "woke" about finding what is allegedly (and you should see the Tapatalk for yourself, it's his picture from an account made in 2009).
The posts he made about visual snow are more interesting & could definitely be a sign of schizophrenia which would also explain his self medication drug use.
100 per cent. Self medication with heroin sounds like dancing with the devil. Possibly he read somewhere it would cause weight loss. Who advised him as to dosage,warning signs? Most likely he was his own doctor. People like BCK used to be called misfits, oddballs, socially awkward, etc. Or just Deranged. But it's not the WHY did he do it, it's the WHODUNNIT. If you do the crime, you do the time. If the cops turn up any more damning evidence through their search warrants and trawls thru his social media, I'd say its a change of venue and a long, long, long stint on death row for our boy. And the sweet souls of his four victims and their grieving families? May G-d hold them in the palm of his hand. May the Goddess restore them from all the pains they have suffered through this horrific act.
If those posts are his, and his high school drug addiction is true, I feel very bad for that Bryan of 10 years ago. The current Bryan has none of my sympathy…. But that Bryan…. I hate to think a boy of 17 had that much inner turmoil and that maybe he was “treated” by your first guest - who called him manipulate and blew off his symptoms. To me, those posts don’t read like someone with good mental health who wanted to lay a defense for crimes theyd commit 11 years later. That actually sounds quite ridiculous to me.
The Bryan of 10 yrs ago became the Bryan of today because everyone treated him like this "psychologist". He does deserve to answer for what he did, obviously; it would be better if he were helped also.
I'll be glad when he's put away and we no longer have to see his face.
Somebody should lose their license!
This is really irresponsible “journalism” Inside Looking is NOT confirmed as BK the earlier postings are affiliated with his confirmed email. Please stop gaslighting Ashley
That's exactly what I thought when I first read it. Setting up for future plans
I said the same thing. He was laying elaborate groundwork to explain future crimes...a manipulation. He chose a state with no insanity plea....a contradiction in terms. He's sort of a walking contradiction. Perhaps contrarianism is how he amuses himself. Maybe that's giving him too much credit. If he doesn't see the world or anyone in it including himself as real then all bets are off as to how he conducts himself and why. If he is operating from a place of meaninglessness then he isn't seeking meaning. He's about chaos. Maybe his game is going out of his way to do things that don't make sense as nonsensical as that sounds.
Its probably hard to say your insane when you have a PHD. He's either gonna have to take the plea deal from the prosecutor. Or go all in and take it to trial. But after the affidavit. Which isnt even telling us a fraction of what they know or happened in that house. They'll bury him. I think he is such a narrcistic that wants the center of attention he will take it to trial. The fact he thinks hes going to be exonorated or whatever. Yup. Whata psycho through an through
@@jaymesnin True. Those of his ilk like to get attention crave all attention good /bad is attention just the same. They like to think they're artists in a twisted way, but instead of creating they destroy. His mama liked T. Bundy...the bad apple didn't fall far.
Yup, sounds like the language of a psychopath to me
He might commit his first murder as a teenager. And he became sick of himself, became sick of meat afterwards.
I know the depth of his alleged crimes. But you have to keep in mind that if these are his posts indeed it says a-lot. Tbh anyone that kills 4 ppl especially by an intimate stabbing there has to be some neurological issues. That doesn’t justify the murders but clearly he needed help. I pray for him and the victims and the others involved.
Does help exist for issues like this if so, what?
Well said.
we all have issues,, i used to write self discovery blogs too and they are darker than his ?? AND im no killer. This is just propaganda as far as i can see
Bryan declared that the Pharma drug Topamax made him crazy... but you can't say that right
This psychologist does not dismiss what Kohlberger says she takes it as a manipulative tool
Psychopath or sociopath. I'm not sure which one, but he definitely has no empathy/lack of feeling much if anything, but yet still sounds like he may have some feeling too in some of these posts. Definitely would say either psycho or socio path, sociopaths have some (limited) feelings, psychopaths usually none whatsoever.
This is right out psychopath, not sociopath. Psychopaths are indifferent to the pain they inflict on others.
let him have his defense first why dont you
So much circumstantial evidence against him already and there's a lot more evidence to come.
Ms.Banfield - change your blouse!
This is all speculation. You don't even know who made these posts. This is so frustrating. I thought you were an up and up station reporting factual news, not bogus crap not proven. smh...
The poster definitely has a disconnect with himself and society. No doubt about it. His posts initially begin to question life, his role in it, what human beings are, as if he's talking about himself in the third person, and many do that, even political figures we all know. He has very little empathy and struggles to understand human interaction, as if he's on the outside looking in. But we must use caution in diagnosing via social media posts and through the lens of mainstream media. That is better done in person and is more of an ethical practice.
at the time he might have been just trying to scam users of Tapatalk. he could just be a full-blown psychopath.
@@julzwonders Yep.. indeed. I wanna know something.. how does newsnation figure these are Kohberger's posts? Did I miss something in their reporting?
Emotionally detached from self and others.
If the world can see this why couldn't his parents,they needed to help this kid,what on earth was this parents thinking
Wow, you have to have compassion for such an ill and disconnected person.
Before rehab,do you think rehab didn't work?
So he can't be trusted ever.
I hate this station ,, even before BK has had any time to defend himself they are just dragging him through the mud !! Wait for the trial newsnation and stop stirring up BS
Can we all get full episodes? Tired of 5 minutes at a time post. Banfield love ya, but this is just too much with every 5 min?
Scary at such a young age.
he was role playing- playing the dark misunderstood person.
@@rowyourboat5361 No he wasn't. He was fighting with his inner monsters. He was a teenage with severe mental illness and needed help. Those words are cry for help from despair. He wasn't doing all this from back 2009 as part of a grand murder scheme. This "psychologist" woman is beyond terrible. Without seeing him in person she just says "oh he was all along a little psycho plotting murders in the future".
Bryan Kohberger was said; by an FBI profiler ... he has INCEL complex (
#APA what are you going to do with this? It's unethical!!!
You can read it 2 ways. Poor disturbed young man on his way to bitter things. Or..a Psycho's ramblings and 'tells', hidden truths. Truths would be how much all humans are disdained. Not self, proud to be different and superior.
Innocent until proven guilty. I'm not saying he's not guilty, but wrf is happening to this country. She's unprofessional & he was a teenager..... Y'all never interviewed him, correct?
Don't let me watch the trial.
These posts of his relate so much to the horrific murder in Idaho
no they dont ,,
Wasn’t he in Ramsland’s class!?
She knew how to catch them right? Wrote a book etc? A pro??
Wow
Maybe they're the words of someone high on heroin or just getting out of a high.
That woman knows nothing about those suffering from the condition of visual snow. I'm guessing she's never even heard of it.
He keeps getting cut off LOL
I agree with Dr. Bailey. The bs in those posts stick out like a sore thumb.
This reporter really just digs in to sink lower and lower. She must know that feeling weird, angsty and detached as a teenager has incredibly little to do with how life is 12 years later. He seemed like a depressed, filosophical teenager who (despite his own sayings) absolutely feels and thinks and feels bad about how he feels he's treating his parents wrong. This kind of reporting only serves to scare other depressed teenagers from getting the help they need, talk to people online (as many do, because that makes it easier to dive into how horrible they actually feel inside. He sounds more suicidal than "making a trap for the future". I have no idea how these people (if they even do) keep their licences with this kind of talk. Both disturbing and disappointing.
he couldn't have the girl, so he killed her
I think I would add to what they said that if you think about it he was over weight as a child. What is said in the post is the kind of thinking that leads to overeating. We have child right now all over the US overweight. Which means waring a mask as lead to feelings of no self worth, uselessness. For Bryan he masked his feelings of worthlessness with drugs when food was no longer enough. His feelings are not new, there just back. Post drugs. Plus it's no excuse. He still should have known better.
Peace and Ahev
Has anyone considered that he WANTED TO GET CAUGHT? IMO he intentionally left the sheaf behind with his DNA because notoriety was part of his fantasy. A PHD in Criminology is proof that he knew how to get away with his murder's, so why didn't he cover his crime better? The fact that he drove his personal vehicle with his tag to the crime scene was intentional as well, again he wanted the world to know his name. He walked straight past a witness who could identify him, once again, he wanted to take credit for his evil deeds. He is reveling in all the attention.
Maybe. But I think there is a big misunderstanding. Criminology doesn't actually teach you how to commit crimes. It's more about theory, psychology and statistics -- especially at the PhD level. So you theorize about why crimes happen and what is going on psychologically or sociologically that leads to crime. Very little is taught about actual crime scenes or forensics. Also, if he is indeed a true psychopath (and he fits) they tend to have high intelligence but poor judgment and lack of impulse control. They often fail when it comes to foresight and realization of consequences. They are so narcissistic they think they will get away with everything, and so their half-baked "plans" end up exploding in their faces. He may have been smart at school, but the way he carried out this crime felt like nothing but bad judgment and pure, wild impulse.
No tag has identified the white vehicle as his. Only that a car shown leaving the scene is the same make and model as the one he owns. The first description (2011-2013 model) didn’t even match as his is a 2015. So I don’t think the car holds much water as evidence.
@@Jacks_Mom They know it's his car because the camera views match with his cell phone pings.
Sadly He's going to become a Pop culture Icon.....
Sorry - shocker here - but I completely relate to these words. Doesn't every young person that's experimented with drugs? Give him a break.
I feel like he killed before these old posts and that’s why he says he’s inhuman, with no self worth, and “in a stage of discovery.”
Kids.
This clinical psychologist is a bit quick to judge without the clinical data needed for a diagnosis. It's almost like she is biased based on her previous dealings with what she believes are psychopaths. She's letting her own emotions guide it, that's a no no.
The Hidden True Crime Community? It's also been said 4chan users found the posts. I'm so sick and tired of YT true crime people taking credit for something they did not find themselves, including Hidden True Crime.
How does he knows he's organic, they say he used drugs
FOUR BEAUTIFUL INNOCENTS KIDS TAKEN AWAY SO SOON THRU one individual THINKING ITS A GAME we all know right from WRONG NOW PARENTS have to ENDURE GRIEF and pain thru his CHOICES by KILLING INNOCENT people
“How am I wearing this shirt?” That’s deep. 👕 🤔
It's extremely lazy for armchair psychologists to just cry psychopath, sociopath, and disregard everything else, much moreso for a professional to do so.
The profile pic there tells a lot about him.
Lmao no actual credibility Psychologist can make any diagnosis over a screen reading old posts
I would agree with the panelist
Psychopath is right. There IS several signs of this condition. The emoji knife in the head & several other statements SHOULD have been reported. The internet can be a highway to hell IF no form of community of respect is established.
He lost the plot 🙏
That woman psychologist is very wrong and unethical. You can tell she's giving her personal and admittedly biased opinion; not a professional one. The irony is that Bryan has been saying this stuff all along and got ignored, and it's still being ignored; even in light of the murders. He absolutely needs to pay for what he's done; but he should've gotten help before it came to this. I kinda wonder now if this was partly done so he was put to death.
Sounds pretty normal for an edgy 16 year old with an opiate addiction to be honest
He was taking too many drugs!
He’s a victim too
Might as well have "Doctor Phil"™ give us his "professional" opinion. Man, they'll do anything to create another "news" segment/youtube video. Rebecca Bailey apparently already knows enough about Bryan to convict. Oh, he's just "laying a trap" in 2011 "for the future." Most professionals probably allow their biases to affect their professional opinions, but these TV talking heads take the cake!
Looks like that head knife emoji had text about losing a list of "safe foods" which implies he's imagining stabbing his own head. Also, I've never heard of a psychopath beginning to lay out an alibi over 10 years before committing a crime, let alone someone doing it starting as a teen. Isn't poor impulse control one of the diagnostic criteria for ASPD, Dr. Bailey? She doesn't seem like a very good psychiatrist.
This news channel is extremely unprofessional and biased, they are in no way neutral like reporters are supposed to be. Idk in what world a psychologist diagnoses someone without having a session with them. And this channel keeps bringing this same kind of people and do and say anything to have the most clicks and views. If in place of bryan it was some guy that's fully innocent then his defense would be ruined by reporters and news stations like this one.
Yes agree.
These comments are so Dostoevsky. He's a Raskolnikov, who believed he was a "superman" who could get away with murder; essentially a existentialist. He even looks like what I think Raskolnikov would have looked like, as the author described him.
I hope the defense attorney fights hard forrr him. You don't want a dangerous defendant thinking that even his defense attorney is leading him down the garden path, which is prison forever.
I'm not saying he's guilty or innocent but negative guessing doesn't look like credible news coverage Title: dramatically guilty by news casters pre determination of guilt using suggestive and negative opinion.
I went to Oregon State University. That is ancient history now, but... These smaller towns in Oregon surrounding our state college are all very similar to those in Idaho surrounding Washington State. WSU has Moscow nearby. Oregon State has Lebanon nearby. Lol... Very similar kind of feel. Maybe that's why I'm very curious about this.
IF WE AS INDIVIDUALS ARE GOD FEARING WE WONT HAVE THIS KINDA MINDSET GOD IS THE ONLY ONE HAS THE RIGHT AND MIGHT GOD GIVES AND TAKES AND MAKES NO MISTAKES NO HAS THE THE RIGHT OR THE MIGHT TO TAKE AWAY SOMEONES LIFE THINKING ITS A GAME HIS GOT THE CHARACTERISTICS OF IM IN CONTROL OF EVERYTING NO.ONES TELLS ME TRUE MANIPULATING TRUE MINDGAMES NARCISSISTIC