Oh wow, that's terrible! At least you were able to come up with something of a solution. Thanks for giving us a heads up about this. I literally just had a friend reach out this past week asking me what to do about faded plastic trim, so this one's pretty timely. I know what NOT to recommend, just in case they have some flat non-porous plastic to restore... 👍
I wrapped the trim pieces on the doors in black satin on my wife's Jeep. Looks great and if they ever get scratched I'll just rip it off and re-wrap it. ty
I have a 2002 Toyota Sequoia and I have found that a whisper thin application of Mequires polish, careful applied and removed, followed by two light applications of Carnauba Wax, keeps my B pillars looking like new. We live in the south and have a garage so I know that helps too. Nice video - thanks for the information!
Thank you for this! I'm glad you were able to at least temporarily fix this, and the new vinyl thankfully isn't too expensive and easy to apply The majority of the trim is still awesome! Just the pillars, after the sanding it looked great and now the vinyl One of the vehicles I want is the subaru ascent
Yup, I found the same thing happening to the Cerakote on my flat trim pieces on my Subaru. Leveling is also a problem in that the first places you start to put the stuff with a pad right out of the pouch has a ton of liquid on it and will deposit a lot of it. On flat pieces it will leave streaks that do not appear to self-level. This also can happen on rough areas, as the initial spot will have more liquid and have a darker appearance for a longer time.
Thanks for the heads up. I would have tried another application. You were going to cover it up anyway. At least you would have known if it helped or made it worse
This is exactly the issue I had with my son's Honda CRV. All the porous trim looks great, but the shiny pillars are bad. I will wet sand and polish them, So @attention2detailswchelsea can you let us know how you prep the porous trim and re-coat goes for you as many of will be in the same boat going forward. Thanks!!!
Thanks Chelsea, A vary good and timely video. I was about to apply some today. I'm having second thoughts about it now, since i'm planning on keeping my truck for a while.
Hi Chelsea if i may suggest for those type of pillars the best way is to scuff them 400-600 grit and maybe 800 the most because paint needs a surface lay paint and mechanically bond on to the surface, if its too smooth u run the risk of paint not adhering well., Prep work before painting them and Cerakote Paint
I currently have that on an suv and a pickup trunk, and it's held out exceptionally well now for almost a year. The downside is sometimes it can be hard to level off completely.
I applied this the same way you did about 2 years ago. Had a mishap and one of my pillars looks pretty awful. Contacted Cerakote and they suggested nail polish as well. I ended up just leaving it as is because I didn't want to destroy the pillar. They ended up giving me my money back. I am going to look into what you did with the wrap. Thanks for making this video.
So glad I watched this. I'm putting it on next week and was super hyped for the finish it would provide on the pillars. I'll just something like chemical guys trim gel (turtle wax has a new one which looks promising). Or vinyl
Thanks for the advise, I was about to do the same on my RAV4 but Thanks God I watch your video. I will use Cerakote on trims but not there which you mentioned. Thanks again.
Thanks a lot your video is wanted to find I love I love information thanks 🙏 so much u got my sub and only us with ocd over are cars will know lol the trim came out awesome 👏
Remember ceramic dries out clear coat like your hands. PPG and Nippon Paint only use resistant ceramic coatings with their heat, oil and abrasion products I would have used 3m vinyl wrap to re wrap them. Just amazed that you even got more than a year out of a "trim dye coating"
This is Ethos Graphene but it’s near the end of its life and I’ll probably recoat it soon with the Mckees graphene cause that’s what I apply the most here at my shop
The non porous trim for me wasn’t piano trim. It only looks like that after wet sanding and correcting. It was more of a semi flat surface before coating. The coating definitely made it more glossy which I didn’t mind
I would love to know what happens on the porus panels if you reapply. I had folks in the detail industry push me away from cerakote on my older faded trim because of the permanent nature of it. My panels had faded to an ash grey on my 04 Saturn Vue I recently acquired. UV damage was done, no going back. I wanted to use a product to dye it back to the OEM color like solutions finish, then use cerakote to lock it in its OEM state..... they said DO NOT do it. The panel will re-fade under the cerakote, but now its locked so you are stuck.... stick to cerakote on new or only mild damage as it will stop further degradation & will restore very mild fade and hold it. Thoughts?
I've had nothing but bad luck with ceramic coatings. Completely ruined the paint on one vehicle. Had to sand it down and reapply the clear coat. As good as this cerakote looks on the trim, there is no way that I could use it at this point.
I just did this same car for my friend but I used Vonixx V Plastic on the porous and smooth plastic parts. Hopefully I don’t run into the same issue. The vinyl looks great now though.
Maybe a silly question, but did you try reapplying over the trim restore over the pillars to see if it would fill in and re-restore it? Thanks for the video!
@@attention2detailswchelsea Ok, thanks. Still new to this and trying to figure out how it all works. Plan to put the trim restore on my '04 Element. Will stick to the textured surfaces. Thanks, again!
You will make it go from matte to extremely glossy if you do that. It may be painted but it’s not meant to be wet sanded unless you want to destroy the look of it.
Hey! Similar to your sticker solution, i believe the original one is also a sticker and not a “shiny plastic” trim hence the reason why it had a different reaction. I know people here who buff or polish these trim parts to restore them regardless if cerakote trim restore was applied or not. Hope this helps.
To the best of my knowledge it’s not a sticker, it’s a hard plastic smooth surface. I had polished it in the past but it always became faded within a few months and was very prone to smudging when touched from finger oils and looked awful hence why I applied this product.
@@attention2detailswchelsea i see. Its nice to know though that yours lasted 4 years despite the 2 year claim of cerakote. I just hope though that on those non porous plastics, the ceramic doesnt trap the faded plastic inside like what happens to other ceramic/ trims restore🤞 will wait for your update on those fading parts if reapplying will do the job👍
I used this product per instructions then drove through the recent tropical storm to visit Mom in Florida. Don't use this product on the " black piano key" pillars.
I did a wash, ipa wipe and applied. They looked GREAT up to the 3 yr mark but I couldn’t remove it even if I wanted to without damaging the surface. On porous trim I think you could just ipa wipe and recoat with a trim coating but on the pillars I will need to find a local shop to wrap them for me as that’s not something I offer and I want it done right
It might be worth the investment to purchase new trim if the wrap doesn’t hold up. One thing to remember about Cerakote Trim Restorer, it is designed to be a “restorer” not a preservative for new trim. I’ve read about several complaints when people used this on new trim that came out streaky. For it’s intended purpose, Cerakote is a great product however.
Can confirm, I applied it to my new WRX this summer due to massive amounts of black plastic and wanted to protect it. It was extremely hard to apply evenly. Left streaks all over. I will never apply it to any new car again.
It worked on old faded trim because it "soaks into" the dried outer layer of the plastic (plastics dry out and fade because of UV and ozone in the air) New plastic still has its "skin" of fresh oils to resist the environment. That's why it streaks and blotches. To different things, but the same.
Cerakote recommends NON-Acetone nail polisher remover and a magic eraser to remove their trim coat product on their website. The application instructions on the website also read: IMPORTANT! This is a permanent product intended to restore faded, untreated, UNPAINTED, exterior trim. Not for use on interior, new, or plastic window trim.
Great video. I just purchased the product and will avoid the areas you pointed out. They say not to use it in the interior and I wonder why? Maybe it is the odor.
No it wasn’t painted the clear coming off is the Cerakote actually before it was a matte like trim that was flat and didn’t have a clear coat on it to at I know of
İ have been watching informative videos about car washing and products for about 4-5 months. İ was thinking of buying this product in my own shop, but i seem to have given up now.
Kinda hard to tell, is it a painted surface or just solid plastic? I wonder about the suitability of their paint sealer product for those areas instead of the trim one, in either case. Thanks heaps for the info, that textured stuff it does well on is exactly what I wanted to use it on! :)
I don’t think it’s painted because it’s not like a matte piece but can be polished to be “glossier” but only to a point. I think it’s a plastic trim piece that’s smooth in texture and doesn’t do well long term with this product
This is proably a silly question but could you not recoat them pillars with cerakote to hide or blend in them chipped parts. I just coated my plastic trim and door pillars which is smooth non porous surface similar to your vehicle, on 08/08/24 and I am worried.
You could before it breaks down but since mine flaked off it wouldn’t fix it but if yours is in good condition I’d probably recommend removing before it gets bad OR keep topping it every year to prevent it from cracking and chipping off like mine
@@attention2detailswchelsea that’s what I was hoping. I don’t have a place indoors and probably need to Ceramic coat this new vehicle. Hoping it’s warmer this weekend so I can complete a decontamination and sealant.
I would imagine the wipes are much thicker and a different formulation to restore and coat. It’s almost as if it applies a clear coat over it whereas ceramic coatings aren’t as thick and will break down over time
Trust me , the Cerakote is flaking off. Has nothing to do with the trim underneath. But i couldn’t budge it if it wasn’t flaking off. Magic eraser, sanding even didn’t budge it.
He's saying that if you let it go another year or two, most of it will break down and flake off on its own because UV breaks down EVERYTHING exposed to it for a long time. He was talking the Cerokote was breaking down, not the trim.
I tried this product on my Honda CRV and it ruined my trim. It is like brushing clear laquer on your trim and leaves streaks and bubbles. This product is crap.
after 4 years I wouldn't complain. Cool it lasted on some areas. Cars are made out of crap these days. They just want you to buy a new one. 5-10 years old cars are not worth your time to make look nice unless yo are just going to sell it to get a new one. Sucks but its how they are made now. Then all the sudden the drive train fails and the car is worth nothing lol. Good vid
Great info, thanks! I just got a package of the cerakote trim restore, now I know whatnot to put it on.
Never use acetone on any part of a vehicle it will damage most surfaces.
100% the acetone molecules are super small, it's why it even permeates gloves.
Oh wow, that's terrible! At least you were able to come up with something of a solution. Thanks for giving us a heads up about this. I literally just had a friend reach out this past week asking me what to do about faded plastic trim, so this one's pretty timely. I know what NOT to recommend, just in case they have some flat non-porous plastic to restore... 👍
I wrapped the trim pieces on the doors in black satin on my wife's Jeep. Looks great and if they ever get scratched I'll just rip it off and re-wrap it. ty
I have a 2002 Toyota Sequoia and I have found that a whisper thin application of Mequires polish, careful applied and removed, followed by two light applications of Carnauba Wax, keeps my B pillars looking like new. We live in the south and have a garage so I know that helps too.
Nice video - thanks for the information!
Solution Finish is still #1 😎
Solution finish is garbage. Applied per inventors instructions. Dry for a week. Streaked and faded and spotted within 3 days.
Thank you for this! I'm glad you were able to at least temporarily fix this, and the new vinyl thankfully isn't too expensive and easy to apply
The majority of the trim is still awesome! Just the pillars, after the sanding it looked great and now the vinyl
One of the vehicles I want is the subaru ascent
I clear wrapped all my pillars. It’s the best plan.
Yup, I found the same thing happening to the Cerakote on my flat trim pieces on my Subaru.
Leveling is also a problem in that the first places you start to put the stuff with a pad right out of the pouch has a ton of liquid on it and will deposit a lot of it.
On flat pieces it will leave streaks that do not appear to self-level. This also can happen on rough areas, as the initial spot will have more liquid and have a darker appearance for a longer time.
Thanks for the heads up. I would have tried another application. You were going to cover it up anyway. At least you would have known if it helped or made it worse
Thanks for the heads up on this product. I have it and was planning to use it on my trim at some future date.
This is exactly the issue I had with my son's Honda CRV. All the porous trim looks great, but the shiny pillars are bad. I will wet sand and polish them,
So @attention2detailswchelsea can you let us know how you prep the porous trim and re-coat goes for you as many of will be in the same boat going forward. Thanks!!!
Thanks Chelsea, A vary good and timely video. I was about to apply some today. I'm having second thoughts about it now, since i'm planning on keeping my truck for a while.
Hi Chelsea if i may suggest for those type of pillars the best way is to scuff them 400-600 grit and maybe 800 the most because paint needs a surface lay paint and mechanically bond on to the surface, if its too smooth u run the risk of paint not adhering well., Prep work before painting them and Cerakote Paint
I currently have that on an suv and a pickup trunk, and it's held out exceptionally well now for almost a year. The downside is sometimes it can be hard to level off completely.
I applied this the same way you did about 2 years ago. Had a mishap and one of my pillars looks pretty awful. Contacted Cerakote and they suggested nail polish as well. I ended up just leaving it as is because I didn't want to destroy the pillar. They ended up giving me my money back. I am going to look into what you did with the wrap. Thanks for making this video.
Sorry you went thru this issue on your beautiful car, thank you for the update 😊
So glad I watched this. I'm putting it on next week and was super hyped for the finish it would provide on the pillars. I'll just something like chemical guys trim gel (turtle wax has a new one which looks promising). Or vinyl
Thank you for this video. I made the same mistake and didn’t realize what happened.
I’ve sold the car now or I’d try the vinyl trim on my B pillars.
Very good information on those side pillows, Thanks
I remember you installing it. You were worried it wasn’t going to level if I remember correctly! I hate the pillars on my 13 Forester XT.
Thank you Chelsea !!!!
Thanks for the advise, I was about to do the same on my RAV4 but Thanks God I watch your video. I will use Cerakote on trims but not there which you mentioned. Thanks again.
Thanks a lot your video is wanted to find I love I love information thanks 🙏 so much u got my sub and only us with ocd over are cars will know lol the trim came out awesome 👏
Thank you for your honesty
Thanks for the heads up!
Thank you for the advice ❤
Thanks a lot for the tip. Greatings from the Netherlands
Thank you for the tip. Appreciate you 🙂
Good info. Lengthy, but valuable. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for paying attention ⭐️⭐️👍👍
Thanks for the heads up !!! Also, thanks for a great video.
Remember ceramic dries out clear coat like your hands.
PPG and Nippon Paint only use resistant ceramic coatings with their heat, oil and abrasion products
I would have used 3m vinyl wrap to re wrap them.
Just amazed that you even got more than a year out of a "trim dye coating"
thanks for letting us know before it got us too
Thx for advice. That was close 😅
Thank you for the tips.
Chelsea, thanks for the Awesome Info!
Thanks!
Thanks
I live in Pa as well Chelsea if you find a good shop that does wrap well let me know I also have some gloss black trim I want wrapped as well
Will do
Hey Chelsea, do you think another application of Cerakote would have addressed the issue?
Appreciate the 3 year update video on this product :)
No I think it would have locked in the cracked appearance vs filling them in
@@attention2detailswchelsea
Gotcha thx 🙏
It won’t work I put three coats on what a mess
Do not use Cerakote on any painted or metal surfaces, unpainted plastic only. They should put that in their instructions, but they don’t.
About to do my new car. Glad I saw this. Thanks.
Aside from that trim, your Subie is lookin awesome! Is that still the McKee’s graphene ceramic?
This is Ethos Graphene but it’s near the end of its life and I’ll probably recoat it soon with the Mckees graphene cause that’s what I apply the most here at my shop
Thank you for this video! I have used this coating on my trim with no issues, in fact it looks great but I don’t have any piano trim.
The non porous trim for me wasn’t piano trim. It only looks like that after wet sanding and correcting. It was more of a semi flat surface before coating. The coating definitely made it more glossy which I didn’t mind
I can't believe they told you to use nail polish remover!
Me too.
I would love to know what happens on the porus panels if you reapply. I had folks in the detail industry push me away from cerakote on my older faded trim because of the permanent nature of it. My panels had faded to an ash grey on my 04 Saturn Vue I recently acquired. UV damage was done, no going back. I wanted to use a product to dye it back to the OEM color like solutions finish, then use cerakote to lock it in its OEM state..... they said DO NOT do it. The panel will re-fade under the cerakote, but now its locked so you are stuck.... stick to cerakote on new or only mild damage as it will stop further degradation & will restore very mild fade and hold it. Thoughts?
Yup, that is the best looking Outback model ever made, 2010-2014. Still boxy but with softer edges
Thanks for the insight
I've had nothing but bad luck with ceramic coatings. Completely ruined the paint on one vehicle. Had to sand it down and reapply the clear coat. As good as this cerakote looks on the trim, there is no way that I could use it at this point.
Thanks for sharing
I just did this same car for my friend but I used Vonixx V Plastic on the porous and smooth plastic parts. Hopefully I don’t run into the same issue. The vinyl looks great now though.
Thanks for advice
Maybe a silly question, but did you try reapplying over the trim restore over the pillars to see if it would fill in and re-restore it? Thanks for the video!
It would only have made the issue permanent
@@attention2detailswchelsea Ok, thanks. Still new to this and trying to figure out how it all works. Plan to put the trim restore on my '04 Element. Will stick to the textured surfaces. Thanks, again!
Great information, thanks for sharing
That's a painted serface not meant for trim coat.. wet sand it with 3000 and compound and polish.
You will make it go from matte to extremely glossy if you do that. It may be painted but it’s not meant to be wet sanded unless you want to destroy the look of it.
Hey! Similar to your sticker solution, i believe the original one is also a sticker and not a “shiny plastic” trim hence the reason why it had a different reaction.
I know people here who buff or polish these trim parts to restore them regardless if cerakote trim restore was applied or not. Hope this helps.
To the best of my knowledge it’s not a sticker, it’s a hard plastic smooth surface. I had polished it in the past but it always became faded within a few months and was very prone to smudging when touched from finger oils and looked awful hence why I applied this product.
@@attention2detailswchelsea i see. Its nice to know though that yours lasted 4 years despite the 2 year claim of cerakote.
I just hope though that on those non porous plastics, the ceramic doesnt trap the faded plastic inside like what happens to other ceramic/ trims restore🤞 will wait for your update on those fading parts if reapplying will do the job👍
I used this product per instructions then drove through the recent tropical storm to visit Mom in Florida. Don't use this product on the " black piano key" pillars.
How did you prep your surfaces prior to CeraKote application? Wash and a panel wipe? Those trim strips looked great.
I did a wash, ipa wipe and applied. They looked GREAT up to the 3 yr mark but I couldn’t remove it even if I wanted to without damaging the surface. On porous trim I think you could just ipa wipe and recoat with a trim coating but on the pillars I will need to find a local shop to wrap them for me as that’s not something I offer and I want it done right
I have cleaned a lot of Subaru’s like yours and everyone of them the trim is always faded
It might be worth the investment to purchase new trim if the wrap doesn’t hold up. One thing to remember about Cerakote Trim Restorer, it is designed to be a “restorer” not a preservative for new trim. I’ve read about several complaints when people used this on new trim that came out streaky. For it’s intended purpose, Cerakote is a great product however.
I’ve heard that as well on their newer products and wondering if they changed the formula cause I didn’t have that experience when I applied
Can confirm, I applied it to my new WRX this summer due to massive amounts of black plastic and wanted to protect it. It was extremely hard to apply evenly. Left streaks all over. I will never apply it to any new car again.
It worked on old faded trim because it "soaks into" the dried outer layer of the plastic (plastics dry out and fade because of UV and ozone in the air)
New plastic still has its "skin" of fresh oils to resist the environment. That's why it streaks and blotches.
To different things, but the same.
Cerakote recommends NON-Acetone nail polisher remover and a magic eraser to remove their trim coat product on their website.
The application instructions on the website also read:
IMPORTANT! This is a permanent product intended to restore faded, untreated, UNPAINTED, exterior trim. Not for use on interior, new, or plastic window trim.
Yeah those don’t work to remove it at all. And those instructions were not there when I purchased it 4 yrs ago but glad to see they’ve added them
I used PPF on my pillars as they scratch easily.
Great video. I just purchased the product and will avoid the areas you pointed out. They say not to use it in the interior and I wonder why?
Maybe it is the odor.
Because it’s permanent. I wouldn’t use this on interiors
If I'm not mistaken that part is painted and got clear coat on it and that's your clear coat coming off.
No it wasn’t painted the clear coming off is the Cerakote actually before it was a matte like trim that was flat and didn’t have a clear coat on it to at I know of
damn... wish I hadn't already done mine. Guess in a few years I'll plan to be wet sanding. 😅
İ have been watching informative videos about car washing and products for about 4-5 months. İ was thinking of buying this product in my own shop, but i seem to have given up now.
oof that is wild. Shoutout to Cerakote burning through trim 1 car at a time
Thanks for the video I almost got that brand and was going to do the exact same thing.lol🤦
Kinda hard to tell, is it a painted surface or just solid plastic? I wonder about the suitability of their paint sealer product for those areas instead of the trim one, in either case.
Thanks heaps for the info, that textured stuff it does well on is exactly what I wanted to use it on! :)
I don’t think it’s painted because it’s not like a matte piece but can be polished to be “glossier” but only to a point. I think it’s a plastic trim piece that’s smooth in texture and doesn’t do well long term with this product
Ugh. This video is 1 week after I applied it to my wife’s Subaru Crosstrek. Maybe we’ll trade it in within 3 years 😂
Do you think a pack of ten pads be enough to do outside and inside trim of a small hatchback? How much does one pad do?
I wouldn’t do inside trim with this. It’s only meant for outside
This is proably a silly question but could you not recoat them pillars with cerakote to hide or blend in them chipped parts. I just coated my plastic trim and door pillars which is smooth non porous surface similar to your vehicle, on 08/08/24 and I am worried.
You could before it breaks down but since mine flaked off it wouldn’t fix it but if yours is in good condition I’d probably recommend removing before it gets bad OR keep topping it every year to prevent it from cracking and chipping off like mine
@@attention2detailswchelsea Wow thankyou for a quick response.
Same thang happened to my moms Honda
Wouldn't it be better to use actual wax for painted surfaces?
I have a new Sierra gmc. It has huge black piano non porous pillars. What do you recommend to put on them?
A normal ceramic coating. I wouldn’t recommend this.
@@attention2detailswchelsea that’s what I was hoping. I don’t have a place indoors and probably need to Ceramic coat this new vehicle. Hoping it’s warmer this weekend so I can complete a decontamination and sealant.
You're not supposed to put it on smooth pillars or any other smooth,coated areas.
I know that now
Plasti dip
Does anyone know the difference between the wipes and the clear liquid bottle of Cerakote ceramic products? Thanks!
I would imagine the wipes are much thicker and a different formulation to restore and coat. It’s almost as if it applies a clear coat over it whereas ceramic coatings aren’t as thick and will break down over time
Good to know!
TBH looks more like common break down from UV rays and not a cerakote issue.
Trust me , the Cerakote is flaking off. Has nothing to do with the trim underneath. But i couldn’t budge it if it wasn’t flaking off. Magic eraser, sanding even didn’t budge it.
He's saying that if you let it go another year or two, most of it will break down and flake off on its own because UV breaks down EVERYTHING exposed to it for a long time. He was talking the Cerokote was breaking down, not the trim.
How do you reapply to cerakoted porous trim?
I would clean with soap or apc, panel prep wipe and just reapply
What can we use on those surfaces?
I’d just do a normal ceramic coating that isn’t as tenacious. This is practically clear coat wipes and permanent
So what would you use on the non porous trim?
Probably either wrap it or just something like 3D speed and a normal ceramic coating
Could you just replace those pieces with new ones?
Sure but they are several hundreds of dollars
@@attention2detailswchelsea Hmmm……will that more than the labor and material to wrap them?
I tried this product on my Honda CRV and it ruined my trim. It is like brushing clear laquer on your trim and leaves streaks and bubbles. This product is crap.
Sorry to hear that
Nice!!!
after 4 years I wouldn't complain. Cool it lasted on some areas. Cars are made out of crap these days. They just want you to buy a new one. 5-10 years old cars are not worth your time to make look nice unless yo are just going to sell it to get a new one. Sucks but its how they are made now. Then all the sudden the drive train fails and the car is worth nothing lol. Good vid
It is horrible. Do not use this stuff. It turns white streaks everything and you cannot get it off. It is horrible. Stay away, please.
For those who get Cerokote on GOOD paint finishes and or glass, try polishing it off with Meguier's PlastX . Worked for me.
Thank you for this video!
Thanks!