i was six years old when my late dad took me to this match. I remember it as though it was yesterday, the crowd went mad.............. it was a real life memory.
Jimmy Greaves one of our greatest goal scorers (the best according to Brian Clough) Scored 100 league goals before he was 21. Was also the youngest to score a hat-trick at 17 which he shares with Alan shearer. A true legend of the English game.
The best goal scoring machine we ever produced was Jimmy Greaves, his stats will tell you how good he was & the Goal in the 5/1 thrashing against Man United against likes of Best, Charlton etc made a great United team look silly. Best player I ever saw George Best, two footed, could head a ball, & go round players as if they were not there. Today Bale 85 million, Ronaldo silly money. Jimmy Greaves today's market guaranteed to score 30 plus goals a season for ten years makes him worth 200 million in today's market,that's how good he was. Thanks Jimmy Greaves for giving me all those childhood memories!
The greatest striker ever. He’d go straight into my all-time 11. I was there, in the Paxton Road end, for “that goal” against Leicester in October 1968 said to be his best ever. A big Leicester fan here, by the way 😊
Gilzean has said that Greaves was as good as Messi is to day and seeing that goal it is hard to argue. But Gilly himself was a magnificent player himself. Remember that in this match they were playing against a wonderful team.
Liverpool fan here and it's always good to see United get beat ha ha but before you United fans get too worked up can I just say that 2 of my favourite non-Liverpool players are here - Greaves (what a legend - brilliant!) and, no not Best, but Charlton (what a top top player!). All us fans will always have our rivalries but we can't argue with pure genius and class.
Yeah, as long as a defender even LOOKED like he was trying to play the ball; you could snap a forward's leg sideways and the ref wouldn't even blink. I appreciate the skill & purity of modern football, but the 1st Div. was a MAN'S game back in them days.
Too true, also don't forget players like Greavsie had to finish on awful muddy pitches going past defenders who had licence to break their leg. One of the greats and a truly brave man for beating his drink problem too. A real legend!
@smudger1979football : in them days strikers didn't HAVE a weaker foot - they trained and trained to bring the non-dominant one up to scratch. Nat Lofthouse (another great goal-hanger from a slightly earlier era than Greaves) used to play training games with an old carpet slipper on his right foot, simply so's he'd have to use the left to have any chance of scoring.
greaves one of the best finishers of all-time but relatively unknown today due to the dominance of the "sky 4". Also, how impressing is the finishing on display here?? I know the 60s were the glory days of football and that these were two of the best teams on show but i didn't realise the standard was this high. incredible...
i don't care who the defender is whether in todays game or back then our jimmy would turn and roll leaving them for dead..bang goal, greatest player ever to grace spurs. get well great man.
Just to clarify something someone says here, and hello to 666eggsiseggs at the same time, who has been so kind as to educate us younger ones about Greavesie.... I think I am right in saying Bobby Charlton's shot is with his left, which was his natural foot... what that means takes nothing from the man, because it means the glorious shot against Mexico was actually with his swinger, so to speak!
I used to see quite a few matches live in those days as well, but I was in my 20s & 30s. Best & Charlton were simply football gods; there's really no other way to put it. Greaves was quite the goal sniffer, but he could fire bullets from 20 yds. out as well. Roger Hunt & Johnny Haynes were 2 other greats from that era who are sort of swept under the carpet these days, IMO.
This is the 1st game I ever went to when I was ickle, didn't see much Greavsie as every time he got the ball everyone stood up. Along with Jimmy I was devastated when he didn't get picked for the World Cup final.
The A to Z corresponded to other matches on the day, printed in the match day programme eg. A = Arsenal v. Chelsea. The half time scores of these games were then posted next to the letters by means of small number signs.
It's ALWAYS good to watch Utd get beat as I'm a LIverpool fan BUT Jimmy Greaves and Bobby Charlton have to be 2 of the greatest players of all time. I tilt my hat to both of them.
Our greatest striker ever hopefully kane can equal his record. My grandad grew up watching him he said was the best player in the league during the 60s.
Yeah, some players went over the line, but most of the blokes then were tough but fair. Of course, it's difficult to really compare the two eras in that area because the refereeing standards are just entirely different. & I admit that it might be just a WEE bit of nostalgia on my part, but I do try to set that aside as much as I can.
Yeah, the last thing I meant was to be sanctamonius... amongst honest men we love a hard and fair game. But unfortunately in football, as in life, how few they are!
@HitMeQuick From the footage, it looks like it might actually have been the 1966 World Cup where the BBC began displaying accurate formations. After that, I think they mostly just showed the players listed from 1-11 - until the early 90s - and the commentator went through the list. But I have seen newspaper cuttings from the 70s where 2-3-5 is still being displayed for all sides, despite it having been outmoded by the W-M (3-2-2-3) decades earlier. (Which itself was out of date by the 50s!)
@HitMeQuick They didn't actually line up like that. 2-3-5 dropped out of fashion back in the 20s. But for some reason it wasn't until the 70s that TV and newspapers stopped using it as the 'default' formation for their graphics.
@HitMeQuick In the case of this clip, you can see that the attacking players' positions as given are not far removed from the truth, but Bobby Charlton is actually a lot deeper than a real centre forward would be. Going by the names on the teamsheet, United are probably using W-W (3-2-3-2), which was pretty popular until 4-4-2 came along.
Maybe someone WHO REGULARLY SAW BOTH PLAY in the 60's could give an appraisal of Law and Greaves for me? Both were represented in footballing literature as being akin to Rush and Lineker in the 80's, yet there had to be more to them... Greave's dribbling here is something neither of them could ever do, and as for Law, he was actually Greave's favourite player. Could Law dribble like Greaves, I know he was a better tackler, arguably quicker, and a better headerer. Am I right? Thanks
In the words of... Frank McLintock: “Greaves could go past 4, 5 players and score, Law wasn’t like that”. George Best:”(about Law) obviously people talk about his goals, but look at his passes, they were perfect”. Alan Ball: “(out of Charlton, young Best, and Law) He (Law) was the player I wanted to see, he was electric.” Mike Summerbee: “Law was very quick mentally, he had infinite resources to score”, “Best players I saw: Charlton, Law, Cruyff and Dzajic (Yugoslavia’s and most probably Eastern Europe’s best player ever).”
Back in the days when football was a competitive sport at the top level!! What have we got now? Nothing more than an expensive imitation of the 1970's American Soccer Leagues. Anyone who pays the £40+ to watch a Pemier game is nuts-but the bigger mugs and idiots are those who pay £20 a year to be 'members' on the off chance they may get a fvacant £90 seat for a game. The PL has killed the game at the top.
Cool! I never heard Gazza's response. But, Besty would have had him spinning in circles trying to catch the great man. Not to mention, Besty would drink Gazza under the table and steal all his women!
Football then was slower and players had more time, but who cares it was more entertaining, and they were not just doing it for the money, and not trying to get a free kick.
I'll take issue with you mate. 40p? What are you on? It was well pre-decimal, and in 1965 you'd get behind the goal for about 4 bob (20p), possibly 3 and a kick (3/6 or 17.5p)
I agree with you my friend up to a point. But I like I'm sure you have, played the game, and if you're being kicked and poked all the way through, some nonce trodding on your heels at every turn and getting away with it, and you can't turn around in turn and just give him a fight with your fists then its not on. And bastards like this, all the provocation, especially spitting... that's not a mans game. Just my opinion as someone who didn't care about hard tackles as long as they were fair.
i was six years old when my late dad took me to this match. I remember it as though it was yesterday, the crowd went mad.............. it was a real life memory.
The 3rd goal is a thing of beauty, the other players clapping it afterwards just tops it off.
I counted seven touches from the turn to putting it in the net. The last three were absolutely brilliant.
Jimmy Greaves one of our greatest goal scorers (the best according to Brian Clough) Scored 100 league goals before he was 21. Was also the youngest to score a hat-trick at 17 which he shares with Alan shearer. A true legend of the English game.
The best according to everyone who knows their football. The very greatest!
The best goal scoring machine we ever produced was Jimmy Greaves, his stats will tell you how good he was & the Goal in the 5/1 thrashing against Man United against likes of Best, Charlton etc made a great United team look silly. Best player I ever saw George Best, two footed, could head a ball, & go round players as if they were not there. Today Bale 85 million, Ronaldo silly money. Jimmy Greaves today's market guaranteed to score 30 plus goals a season for ten years makes him worth 200 million in today's market,that's how good he was. Thanks Jimmy Greaves for giving me all those childhood memories!
Very well stated. Couldn't agree more. Greavsie was 75 last week did you know?
Jimmy Greaves, the greatest goalscorer ever. Even Messi and Ronaldo are still trying to catch up with him.
They caught and just past him
@@redd605 Yeah, how many more games did that take them? Not only but also, Jimmy quit the game at 31. How many more would he have scored?
Best striker ever bar none.
Second best English player ever. Just behind Duncan Edwards.
WONDERFUL JIMMY GREAVES GET WELL SOON
I could watch this over and over again
The greatest striker ever. He’d go straight into my all-time 11. I was there, in the Paxton Road end, for “that goal” against Leicester in October 1968 said to be his best ever. A big Leicester fan here, by the way 😊
Gilzean has said that Greaves was as good as Messi is to day and seeing that goal it is hard to argue. But Gilly himself was a magnificent player himself. Remember that in this match they were playing against a wonderful team.
Liverpool fan here and it's always good to see United get beat ha ha but before you United fans get too worked up can I just say that 2 of my favourite non-Liverpool players are here - Greaves (what a legend - brilliant!) and, no not Best, but Charlton (what a top top player!).
All us fans will always have our rivalries but we can't argue with pure genius and class.
Yeah, as long as a defender even LOOKED like he was trying to play the ball; you could snap a forward's leg sideways and the ref wouldn't even blink. I appreciate the skill & purity of modern football, but the 1st Div. was a MAN'S game back in them days.
Greaves could not only score goals for fun, he could bodyswerve past players in a similar vein to George Best.
A total genius........
Too true, also don't forget players like Greavsie had to finish on awful muddy pitches going past defenders who had licence to break their leg. One of the greats and a truly brave man for beating his drink problem too. A real legend!
...I was there!
Greaves was a total genius, along with Best....
I was 14 and from this match onwards spurs were in my blood ❤👍👍
Jimmy Greaves one of the greats.
Jim was the greatest finisher ever what a player what a man simply the best!
Jimmy greaves, one of the most gifted finishers ever imo
@smudger1979football : in them days strikers didn't HAVE a weaker foot - they trained and trained to bring the non-dominant one up to scratch. Nat Lofthouse (another great goal-hanger from a slightly earlier era than Greaves) used to play training games with an old carpet slipper on his right foot, simply so's he'd have to use the left to have any chance of scoring.
greaves one of the best finishers of all-time but relatively unknown today due to the dominance of the "sky 4". Also, how impressing is the finishing on display here?? I know the 60s were the glory days of football and that these were two of the best teams on show but i didn't realise the standard was this high. incredible...
I’m not a Spurs supporter but you’d have to go a hell of a long way to see a better goal than their third! Jimmy Greaves - an absolute genius!
i don't care who the defender is whether in todays game or back then our jimmy would turn and roll leaving them for dead..bang goal, greatest player ever to grace spurs.
get well great man.
rip jim🙏⚽️ coys
all the goals are awesome
Greaves......... 100 goals before he was 21. What a player.
Great Play....Great Players. All true Brits!
thats why I love spurs
Fabulous goals !
Jimmy Greaves was the best ever.
Just to clarify something someone says here, and hello to 666eggsiseggs at the same time, who has been so kind as to educate us younger ones about Greavesie.... I think I am right in saying Bobby Charlton's shot is with his left, which was his natural foot... what that means takes nothing from the man, because it means the glorious shot against Mexico was actually with his swinger, so to speak!
I used to see quite a few matches live in those days as well, but I was in my 20s & 30s. Best & Charlton were simply football gods; there's really no other way to put it. Greaves was quite the goal sniffer, but he could fire bullets from 20 yds. out as well. Roger Hunt & Johnny Haynes were 2 other greats from that era who are sort of swept under the carpet these days, IMO.
This is the 1st game I ever went to when I was ickle, didn't see much Greavsie as every time he got the ball everyone stood up. Along with Jimmy I was devastated when he didn't get picked for the World Cup final.
The actual formation back then was...
GK
RB - CH - LB
RH - LH
IR - IL
RW - CF - LW
In modern notation, that would be 3-2-2-3
Difficult to say but I saw both play and Gazza was something special. Nutty as a fruit cake but he had so much talent it was frightening.
THFC......no football club in the world has more class than Tottenham Hotspur.
Jimmy....... you are the greatest.
COYS
The A to Z corresponded to other matches on the day, printed in the match day programme eg. A = Arsenal v. Chelsea. The half time scores of these games were then posted next to the letters by means of small number signs.
some lovely goals
Greaves, player
Some great goals in this one !
It's ALWAYS good to watch Utd get beat as I'm a LIverpool fan BUT Jimmy Greaves and Bobby Charlton have to be 2 of the greatest players of all time.
I tilt my hat to both of them.
Our greatest striker ever hopefully kane can equal his record. My grandad grew up watching him he said was the best player in the league during the 60s.
oh glory days
This was in the days when spurs were a big club. Anybody remembering them last winning the league are, like me, eligible for an OAPs freedom pass.
Now that was why it used to be called 'the beautiful game'...
Yeah, some players went over the line, but most of the blokes then were tough but fair. Of course, it's difficult to really compare the two eras in that area because the refereeing standards are just entirely different. & I admit that it might be just a WEE bit of nostalgia on my part, but I do try to set that aside as much as I can.
Yeah, the last thing I meant was to be sanctamonius... amongst honest men we love a hard and fair game.
But unfortunately in football, as in life, how few they are!
@HitMeQuick From the footage, it looks like it might actually have been the 1966 World Cup where the BBC began displaying accurate formations. After that, I think they mostly just showed the players listed from 1-11 - until the early 90s - and the commentator went through the list. But I have seen newspaper cuttings from the 70s where 2-3-5 is still being displayed for all sides, despite it having been outmoded by the W-M (3-2-2-3) decades earlier. (Which itself was out of date by the 50s!)
@HitMeQuick They didn't actually line up like that. 2-3-5 dropped out of fashion back in the 20s. But for some reason it wasn't until the 70s that TV and newspapers stopped using it as the 'default' formation for their graphics.
@HitMeQuick In the case of this clip, you can see that the attacking players' positions as given are not far removed from the truth, but Bobby Charlton is actually a lot deeper than a real centre forward would be. Going by the names on the teamsheet, United are probably using W-W (3-2-3-2), which was pretty popular until 4-4-2 came along.
The great Alan Gilzean....King of Dens Park.
Maybe someone WHO REGULARLY SAW BOTH PLAY in the 60's could give an appraisal of Law and Greaves for me? Both were represented in footballing literature as being akin to Rush and Lineker in the 80's, yet there had to be more to them... Greave's dribbling here is something neither of them could ever do, and as for Law, he was actually Greave's favourite player. Could Law dribble like Greaves, I know he was a better tackler, arguably quicker, and a better headerer. Am I right? Thanks
In the words of...
Frank McLintock: “Greaves could go past 4, 5 players and score, Law wasn’t like that”.
George Best:”(about Law) obviously people talk about his goals, but look at his passes, they were perfect”.
Alan Ball: “(out of Charlton, young Best, and Law) He (Law) was the player I wanted to see, he was electric.”
Mike Summerbee: “Law was very quick mentally, he had infinite resources to score”, “Best players I saw: Charlton, Law, Cruyff and Dzajic (Yugoslavia’s and most probably Eastern Europe’s best player ever).”
Alan Gilzean.
Its Tottenham Hotspur not Hotspurs
Back in the days when football was a competitive sport at the top level!! What have we got now? Nothing more than an expensive imitation of the 1970's American Soccer Leagues. Anyone who pays the £40+ to watch a Pemier game is nuts-but the bigger mugs and idiots are those who pay £20 a year to be 'members' on the off chance they may get a fvacant £90 seat for a game. The PL has killed the game at the top.
I was born in the wrong era :(
They dont make em like Greaves anymore
I didn't take it that way in the slightest, seanreilly. "No harm, no foul-" as the Americans say. ;D
Great player's see pictures and then they reveal them to us ?!.😉
@HitMeQuick i thought that was what Ossie Ardilles was trying as manager!
Cool! I never heard Gazza's response. But, Besty would have had him spinning in circles trying to catch the great man. Not to mention, Besty would drink Gazza under the table and steal all his women!
Football then was slower and players had more time, but who cares it was more entertaining, and they were not just doing it for the money, and not trying to get a free kick.
4-1-3-2 is todays equivalent.
I'll take issue with you mate. 40p? What are you on? It was well pre-decimal, and in 1965 you'd get behind the goal for about 4 bob (20p), possibly 3 and a kick (3/6 or 17.5p)
very very odd that he did not get picked,bad decision
Not quite up to last years win but not bad
What would he be worth now if they want to give bale a million a week in China Jim would be worth a trillion a week he was the best finisher ever!
spurs used to be soooooooo good
hey where is giggs?haha
Yes but not grown at Tottenham's home.
Savner 2-3-5 formasjonene ;)
I agree with you my friend up to a point. But I like I'm sure you have, played the game, and if you're being kicked and poked all the way through, some nonce trodding on your heels at every turn and getting away with it, and you can't turn around in turn and just give him a fight with your fists then its not on. And bastards like this, all the provocation, especially spitting... that's not a mans game. Just my opinion as someone who didn't care about hard tackles as long as they were fair.
Well they didn't and you got thrashed...end of
some lovely goals