She's really quite "meh" though. She couldn't even explain the difference between sociopathy and psychopathy. Pretty bad if she's a professional working in the field, but if she was teaching it too... yikes! Edit to add: And for the people commenting "you explain it then", look down 2 comments. Then 4 comments. Then 10 comments. Explanations at different lengths with different depth and examples provided to explain the nuance.
@@eschelarthere isn’t a widely agreed on definition that separates the two. Current literature about it varies widely depending on who is giving the answer but common consensus is that both have similar attributes.
why the Zodiac Killer writing is exactly the same as the GSK (Joseph DeAngelo)? I comment here because I really hope someone read this, I need an answer! u_u
My aunt (who was fairly close in age to me and with whom I was very close) was the victim of a family annihilator. Next July will be 20 years. She is included in a record in the library of congress. RIP Stacey. I miss ya every day
I’m glad you included the part about “…without really feeling them” in regards to psychopaths mimicking of others’s emotions they don’t understand. As someone on the autism spectrum, the challenges in understanding other people’s emotional states is very real, but that does not mean we LACK empathy or aren’t sensitive to emotions generally. The trouble is that we often shut down due to how overwhelming the intensity of feeling them truly is.
@@ars6187 Not even just 'wrong', but even inhuman. I can't imagine they're much better at understanding others' emotions than us if they just react like this...
I cringed at that point too for the same reason. Thanks for speaking up! I connect a little easier by way of analogy. I find something we can discuss that is similar and relatable. But I've learned not to press too hard if the analogy falls flat. If that means they think I'm odd, well, they're right.
She does present well. I will say she presented that chart at 5:10 she framed it as overall homicide when the caption at the bottom says “gun homicide per 100,000 residents.” Homicides and gun homicides are two completely different things
Edited to add that I really didn’t think people would be so upset over the government provided statistics of England and Wales, and the NCADV’s equally valid statistics of the US, each pertaining to the gender breakdown of reported IPV. No wonder males report these crimes less than females. Original comment: Something I’ve also noticed is how people think it’s so female weighted? It’s closer to about a 1:2 ratio of male to female victims (so about 1/3 vs 2/3). Very fascinating to see just how media coverage and spins of what an abuser or victim looks like can affect public perceptions, even to the extent where people are actually _overlooking_ the concrete statistics I have provided.
@@Alex-ug9wx "According to the National Institute of Justice, about 9.5% of domestic abuse victims are male. This means that for every 100 victims of domestic abuse, about 10 are men. It is important to note that this number is likely underreported, as men are less likely to report domestic abuse than women."
@@mpGreen03 in England and Wales (my jurisdiction), around 1.7 million women and 700k men reported IPV. Not even bearing in mind the fact males are statistically less likely to report these offences, the ratio is already 247:600 (Male : Female reports respectively). Now, in the US, where I’m assuming you found that statistic, the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence states that it isn’t 1/9 victims that are male, but rather, 1/9 males that will be victims of severe and ongoing IPV. This is compared to 1/4 women, again, bringing the ratio of male to female victims (respectively) to about 1:2, proving that, regardless of what gender is more likely to report it, IPV rates transcend borders and are roughly proportionate. I’m really not sure what people are struggling with here.
Thank you Jillian. Elder Canadian here. What you do is valuable. Short, tough, and to the point. Carry on MacDuff. It is refreshing to hear pure honesty.
Except her answers were very bias and questionable at times. She was throwing out things that were wrong or unrelated at times. For example, "is America the best at murder" and in response, she pulls out a gun homicide sheet. Gun homicides and homicides overall aren't the same thing. Yet she used the gun homicide chart as if to say that it encapsulates all homicides
Yeah. . . She’s pretty clearly a left bias. Which is fine- everyone has their interpretations and beliefs. That said, America is not the homicide winner. Quite a few standouts above us. We just have more guns- people tend to use the most effective weapon available.
@@anonymousperson3023i think america is the most developed country with the highest murder rate, the majority of these countries with high murder rates have little to no growth
Had a psychiatrist tell me "I can tell you're not neurodivergent. If you were autistic/adhd, you couldn't keep a job" BRO what does that even have to do with anything. No way one trait outrules the other 20+ symptoms??
This makes me grateful for my psychiatrist who saw my traumatised adhd self and I got a diagnosis and good meds. Also, I’m self-employed (cleaning) and able to keep a job.
That's because there's more concern over a perceived excessive number of diagnoses being handed out rather than the real problem of misdiagnoses. And, I do wonder a bit about how much of the sort of low-grade psychopathy is just autistic and schizophrenic people trying to operate without an awareness of what's going on because clinicians aren't permitted to hand out an appropriate diagnosis out of fear over the "over-diagnosis" problem.
I'm sure lots of other crimes were committed in homes, but a dead body is harder to explain or hide, then a broken rib. So there probably was an increase in many crimes, but only an increase in homicide reporting.
@av_oid defending the police doesn't mean "depolicing." It means that we must stop incentivizing frivolous arrests and start financially penalizing cops when they screw up. Taking their money will certainly make them act better.
I saw an interview with a psychiatrist who talked about the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath. Her simple explanation was that psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made. A person exposed to severe trauma for long periods, such as being physically abused for years, or growing up in a war zone, can cause someone to begin to shut down the parts of the brain that are responsible for empathy and understanding emotion. Conversely, a psychopath is actually born with those areas of the brain being non-functioning. I don't know if that explanation is widely held or accepted, but at least some psychiatrists offer that explanation.
fun fact: sociopathy or psychopathy are not listed in the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders used by mental health professionals. Instead they refer to what's known as antagonistic personality disorders, most notably anti-social personality disorder which is most commonly associated with serial killers.
Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD) and Psychopathy are distinct things. ASPD refers to behavioral patterns and is a mental disorder. Psychopathy is a set of personality traits that are divided into two categories: Type 1 and Type 2. Type 1 typically refers to things such as superficial charm, fearless dominance, pathological lying, etc. Type 2 (Which is usually confused with ASPD) typically refers to things such as aggression, parasitic lifestyle, lack of impulse control, etc
Psychopathy is commonly defined as a combination of 2 or more personality disorders. Antisocial personality disorder is one of them. The other 3 are narcissistic, emotionally instable and histrionic personality disorder. Just having one of those doesn't make you a psychopath.
hmm no that's actually not accurate. First of all "emotionally instable" isn't a personality disorder, it's a symptom of a mood or personality disorder. Secondly, a sociopath and psychopath might share the same singular disorder (such as ASPD or NPD), but the way in which they present the disorder is what distinguishes them. For example, psychopaths are classically methodical, charming, and strategic (CEO's etc), while sociopaths tend to be more impulsive and aggressive (your everyday convicted felon). I would check out Dr. Ramani's videos for some more of these nuances, especially when it comes to NPD.@@blarfroer8066
@@blarfroer8066 Facts. Although I rarely have empathy I still do just very rarely. And you know what? Honestly I don't give a crap that I am a sociopath. I get it. I am different and all but that's fine. Im not out for blood
@@necroavirusthats one thing ive always wanted to learn more on. How many psycho/sociopaths are there that dont ever end up killing/hurting anyone? I imagine theres gotta be more than one would expect. Cause I always wondered like, if I had a kid and they turned out to have psychopathy or sociopathy would that mena that they would inevitably hurt someone or could they be taught to be just another productive member of society? Id love to hear how/if life differs for you than others
Woah crazy that Puppet Combo got their question answered! They're an indie game developer who do horror games including those involving serial killers/etc, super cool to see this in the video :D
i deeply appreciate that you mentioned the “connection” dahmer may have been seeking through consuming his victims. it’s a theory not often spoke about and i think it’s incredibly important for us to consider.
I recently learned that unsolved cases go up as gang violence goes up, likely because victims are less likely to give useful information, and witnesses are also less likely to be helpful. When it comes to regular civil cases, people aren't as hesitant to give useful information
Those cases often times get solved much later when alliances shift and people are more comfortable talking about it. It's why none of the people that killed Tupac were ever charged,they weren't identified until after he was killed, even though they probably had a pretty good idea based on an earlier confrontation between his group and the murderers.
That chart she pulls out at comparing the US with other countries is only for gun homicides, not all homicides as she says. It literally says it right on the chart (timestamp 05:21).
Seems like they have given her the wrong chart but the information she gives is still mostly true. The US is at ~6.3 murders per 100,000 while countries like Germany (0.83) Australia (0.86) still significantly under 1.0 and other "western" countries only slightly above (GB 1.00 Sweden 1.08 etc.)
It's nice to see the mention of Samuel Little. We talk about all the other ones so much, but most people have never even heard of Little and his numbers are insane.
1:05 but the question was if the 1% of the COLD cases was solved... she answers about EVERY murder case (recent) 🤔🤔🤔 no body noticed, or I understood wrong?
love this episode, especially for the breakdown of the crimes, but i will say that at 5:30 you are talking about homicides, but that graph is very clearly labeled "gun homicides" not just homicides
@@swithheld9905 will 70% of all violent crime in America is involving a gun roughly, it still doesn't involve total homicides, it's not as small as people think
I noticed this too, and then when she stated why the gun rates were so high but didn’t at all mention the MAIN one which is gang violence, kind of really shocked me. Like shouldn’t she know that..?
I assumed homicide spiked during the covid pandemic because of domestic abuse. Husbands murdering their wives due to lack of escape, and tensions building.
@@Alex-ug9wx why is it weird? I know it can go both ways, but statistically there's more of men murdering their women partners than the other way around.
@@Mana-br4ew The data sets for those statistics are often misrepresented by only giving the percentages, or saying something like "the percentage of female murders by an intimate partner are 4-5x higher than male murders". It's not inaccurate, technically, but it's an intentional misrepresentation that leaves out absolute values. For example, in 2021; 34% of female murders and 6% of male murders were by their intimate partner. That's a huge difference...or is it? Less than 5000 women were murdered that year, and around 18000 men. So comparing the absolute values its around 1600 female and 1000 male. Which means the actual rate of occurrence isn't anywhere near 4-5x higher for females than males, it's actually only 1.5-2x higher.
Just wanted to say that someone not being able to figure out someone's emotions and mimicking them back is also common in autistic people, who are no more or less violent or empathetic than neurotypical people. Autistic people often have hyper-empathy, we just might not be able to recognize that someone is communicating that emotion to us, and thus come across as cold and uncaring when really we never want to burt someone's feelings and make them feel ignored/dismissed/ what have you. It's about not being able to quickly recognize the visual and tonal ques of someone's emotion, but that doesn't mean we can't relate and feel empathy for it once we realise whats going on. Autistic people can have problems verbalizing and outwardly expressing emotions as well as recognizing others doing so, but that doesn't mean we don't have plenty of empathy to go around, just needs to be a bit more on the nose for some of us. Can't tell you how many neurotypical friends have thought I didn't care about their problems, but I thought they were being very blazé about them and reciprocating the "vibe" because you don't want to like something is a bigger or smaller issue than the person living through it themselves in most situations. I've literally cried because I made some feel bad by not picking up on their feelings and responding accordingly, so obviously not that I lack empathy, i know it hurts to feel minimized and unheard, I just couldn't tell thats what was going on until it comes up later. Please don't go around assuming people with this trait lack empathy, because its often not the case. Autism is currently diagnosed at 1 in 36 kids (autism, despite being a life-long, unchangeable thing, is almost always measured in children for some reason) and psychopathy is only about 1 in 100 people, so chances are someone doing this "tell" still isn't a psychopath.
What you say about hyper-empathy is fascinating. Makes me think of a sweet autistic adult who attended a church congregation I was part of for about 10 years. One Sunday, my allergies were especially getting to me; I would sniff and my eyes would water. He looked at me a number of times during the service and then at one point reached over to pat my hand and said repeatedly, "Everything's going to be okay." I found it quite touching that in seeing indications he had learned to associate with people feeling upset, his instinct was to be comforting. 🥰
I went to the comments immediately when I heard that. It’s such a common thing with so many neurodiversities, not being able to “correctly” reciprocate emotions. Particularly with gifted people for one, or even people with bpd. We just experience emotions differently than others, or might not even know how to handle and show emotions because society has taught us we’re wrong for being the way we are. It’s horribly tragic. I feel you so much when you say you’ve cried because you weren’t able to tell your friends’ needs. We don’t want to upset anyone (unless you’re a moron, but that got nothing to do with either topic), and yet we always do somehow. Why do we get called psychopaths because we weren’t able to guess what’s on your mind??? It’s so frustrating sometimes
I was honestly about to comment something similar because the second I heard her say that I was my though now everyone watching this is going to miss judge people with autism as psychopqths because most of us do that too.
My friend is a survivor of Genene Ann Jones and my doctor was Dr Holland when I was in middle school. Small freaking world and my heart breaks for all those families who lost their precious babies. People like Jones should never exist in this world.
And you owe the benefits of those industries to them as well as your complaints. It's a two way street. Fearmongering is more dangerous than being ignorant to non-murderous psychopaths.
@soonlet4977 True, except Most of the benefits came at a time when CEOs were typically involved in the creation of their companies and even their industries. Modern ones are usually just Ivy-League B-schoolers!! I worked with dozens of the type at a very large software firm. Many had no interest in any aspects of the business other than Stock Options
People aren't hitchhiking in the same way. There's Uber & Lyft now, so it's actually more common for people to get in a car with a random stranger. Though with that, there is phone tracking & ridesharing location info. So still possible, they just might get caught sooner.
Uber/Lyft aren't new. Taxis existed back in the day. They're a vetted service just like hotels or motels. Everyone is technically in a room with strangers all the time in a hotel but it's not about being with strangers, it's about being with strangers who have a good way to kill you and get away with it. This wasn't easy for taxis back then and it's even less easy for Uber/Lyft drivers since there would be an electronic record of them picking you up.
@@MrBrock314 Taxis are more dangerous because people hail them them; you have taxi drivers who are off shift (therefore no records) drive around pretending to be 'active', get hailed by people who had no reason to doubt this, and then do their thing. Nobody "hails an uber", you call for it through the app, thereby eliminating the problem.
What an amazing data based summary. Some of those questions had political overtones but she responded based on the data she’s researched and ended up responding to those questions with a deft hand. Yes, no, we can’t say. The clarity, the respect for social change, the awareness of decreased respect and funding for police. I like her. She understands there is nuance to crime and punishment.
This was great. Lots of good insight and an excellent delivery. I think she misread the comment at 0:44 tho. I think it was about how of all cold cases, 1% of them get picked up again some time later and get solved. So that would only contribute to ~0.5% of all homicide cases.
In addition to this, she also read it inverted, in that she thought it said only 1 percent go unsolved, when it actually said only 1 percent get solved. Her last sentence is, "it's a lot more than 1 percent that don't get solved."
I think it's dangerous to describe a surefire sign of psychopathy being unable to read others emotions and mimicking them back. That's also just many on the autism spectrum who already face enough challenges in life without others assuming that they are psychopaths
She’s also wrong. Psychopaths can read other people’s emotions just fine. Where there is a similarity with autistic people is in the imitation of other people’s emotions. But the motivations behind doing so are completely different. Psychopaths are imitating and mirroring other people’s emotions for gain, and they do so quite naturally. Autistic people learn how to do this to survive/cope in social contexts that don’t come naturally or make natural sense to them.
Psychopathy is a huge umbrella term. It is not automatically detrimental or transforming you into killers. Most CEO and military squad leaders would tick all the common "markers" media talk about, yet they are totally fine people. Just have a particular mindset
Ya i kinda question her sources. No doubt she knows stuff, but just how much she said that wad is kinda questionable as to the validity of her statements
@@sabineedmonds4206 Because cops are all things, are perfect experts at all times, and never ever get it wrong. Or, at least, that's what she would like you to believe.
2:57 i agree that citizens are more likely to point fingers and try to play the moral high ground… but also… doesn’t law enforcement ALSO accuse innocent people and subsequently ruin their lives…?
Actions by police officers, including witness tampering, violent interrogations and falsifying evidence, account for the majority of the misconduct that lead to wrongful convictions, according to a study by the National Registry of Exonerations published in 2020.
So? Does that mean it's okay to ruin an innocent person's life, because law enforcement isn't infallible? Especially in this day and age, where the public will jump on the bandwagon of accusation without hesitation, regardless of proof?
Not as commonly as the public does. The police have a failure rate of 5-20% perhaps but the public is about 50%. How many times does the public say "that person should go to jail" with zero evidence? A lot and they're usually wrong. There is a lot to be said for having training and professional qualifications in a job - it helps!
I'm surprised she talked about stress during covid and pulling back of policing, but not the gross social and financial inequalities that worsened since then.
A criminologist would probably have better knowledge than I do but I saw something the other day about writers on a crime show bringing in a former offender to help them with writing cases, making sure it's believable etc. After some time, the ex-offender said the writers didn't need him anymore because they were so good. It's all information and skills which can be learnt and adapted. So yeah, crime shows can make people better at committing crimes and hiding them.
She touched on this in the video though most criminals are not masterminds. Most crimes are crimes of passion done in the heat of the moment. Another thing aswell is that tvs don’t make good sources for how police operate and what they have at thier disposal
So refreshing to hear the correct vernacular when talking about a sensitive topic. I dont know about anyone else but im tired of the you tube fear of words. Great host of the video too!
She is only referring to countries with the same level of development and explicitly mentions that some South American countries are not included, as they are less developed.
In reference to the question about Alex Murdaugh at 9:12, I can say that she's spot on. I grew up in Hampton, SC, and went to school with the Murdaugh brothers, and their family absolutely had a hand in any sort of police investigation that they wanted to. They owned everything and could ruin the lives of anyone that crossed them. Most people were afraid of them. It was the kind of thing where everyone knew about them, but no one could do anything about it. Alex was used to acting with impunity all the time, and they got away with everything for decades. Finally getting a SLED investigation that could be conducted outside of their sphere of influence was the key to finally getting him behind bars, because he ran out of strings to pull to get his way.
I watched the documentary and was shocked at how he basically had his own little fiefdom. The fact that people didn't see that as a problem really explains why our country is the way it is.
Just for the record that "spike" in the murder rate still left us with a really small per-capita murder rate. It was 0.05%, an increase of 30% still only makes it 0.07%.
This is so interesting to watch. I love watching crime stories and most of the time, the suspects are the people closest to the victim, whether by distance or relationship.
I think something she should’ve mentioned but didn’t is that every single one of these studies she’s referencing is going to be heavily subjected to selection bias. If 50% of murders are unsolved like she said at the beginning, then there’s no way to know if for instance murderers or serial killers are more likely to be drawn to certain careers or start at a certain age in general, or if the killers who get caught are more likely to do these things. Is it that murders are impulsive and poorly thought through, or is it that solved murders tend to be impulsive and poorly thought through? There could be a CSI effect among criminals. If that CSI effect made them less likely to get caught, that would introduce selection bias and confounding bias to your sample, and it would be impossible to identify in a study like she’s saying. It’s impossible to get a random sample of criminals, you can only get a sample of criminals who got caught, so any statistical test that assumes random sampling is automatically useless for generalizing the results to all criminals of that type.
The murder solve rates in other countries are much higher than the US, around 75% vs 50%. So that would eliminate most of the selection bias in those studies
6:27 oh god. I do that. Almost everytime I’ve been “sad” in a public setting I was faking it because everyone else was sad and I didn’t wanna look weird
I suspect the solve rate for murder went down not because increased crime (which shouldn't affect the rate) but because its gotten a little harder to convict people without evidence.
It was Demetri Martin who said those who commit murder-suicide probably don't think much about the afterlife. "Bam you're dead. Bam I'm dead. ..... Oh, hi there. Well, this will be awkward forever won't it?"
@@MrBrock314 In Buddhism very morally good people get liberated, whilst every else (including good people e.g. kind parents) takes repeated rebirths as ghost & animals & humans, until eventually, after millions of years, they become very morally good & get liberated. Ultimately everyone ends up in heaven.
Just keep in mind that's about 0.00001% and being hit by lightning is about 0.0003% so you're more likely to get hit by lightning about 10 times. Also, family annihilations can be avoided by picking the right spouse generally. That doesn't mean they won't occur but they won't occur to you in that scenario at least.
The thing that bothers me about the true crime “fanbase” is the othering of people who are mentally ill. Like she mentioned, theres not necessarily a link between psychopaths and serial killers. The majority of mentally ill people are non violent. Serial killers are sensationalized because they are so RARE. But chocking up killers, even serial killers, to being “psychos” is very unintelligent and un-empathetic thinking
locals in my area suspect that there are two active serial killers. one being a strangler targeting younger women along the I-95 corridor in several New England states, but these killings are only like, one every other year. the other the police deny exist, but there have been a series of drunk young men drowning in the river after leaving the bar. I'm curious what the odds are that these two trends are *actually * serial killers, and not just random murder/accidental deaths that happen to line up.
the cops would have to link the deaths together in some way - a pattern would need to be detected. so if a serial killer killed in a different way each time (and didn't leave any DNA) i wonder if they'd just get away with it for eternity?
you know. something that really grinds my gears in theese videos. 90% of the questions asked can be answered with the most simple google search " whats the difference between sociopathy and psychopathy" thats a great question. if you typed it in googled you'd get an answer faster than asking random people.
When she says the signs of a Psychopath are not being able to read emotions and mimicking them back instead of feeling it. * fades into the dark as an Autistic person*
Autistic people understand emotions. They just struggle to identify them. If you don't feel any, you are probably both autistic and sociopathic. You can be both.
Does drive me nuts that she misunderstood this question 0:43 . They said one percent of cold cases ARE solved but she thought the question was about how many cases are UNSOLVED.
My wife's best friend was a victim of a family annihilation. In this case, her father was on anti depressants. The morning of the killing his doctor adjusted his meds and they think the new combo of meds created a psychotic break that night...
That's terrifying that changing meds can cause that in a human. I myself use anti depressants and whenever I forget to use them I feel mostly the same. I'm sorry your friend experienced that. Is her father in prison now?
antidepressants often take about 4-6 weeks to start working. So scientifically speaking, no, a few hours, cannot turn someone into a murderer. or at least it hasn't happened before. The adjustment of meds was likely a coincidence. Sometimes when people grieve they look for a scapegoat or seek explanations, which is easier then accepting someone you loved had homicidal intent or was independently mentally disturbed.
My deepest condolences to your wife. As stated above, I don't think the change in medication was a factor, it takes at least a few weeks in most anti depressants to start noticing effects. What it's obvious a factor to consider is that he had mental health issues and the treatment wasn't working. He obviously wasn't honest with his doctor, otherwise he would have been put under emergency hospitalisation and suicide watch. Again I'm so sorry for the family.
Prof. Wilson, a criminologist in the UK, said during covid -19 lockdown, the number of murders didn't go up, but the murders became more gruesome ( e.g. more desmembering going on). What is so different to the american society that they react differently under pressure?
To be fair to the police vs podcasters in terms of solving crimes, the police has to follow a lot of rules and might be working on several things at once. Podcasters or amateurs detectives sort of do whatever they want to get the answers they want...
Not serial killers, just psychopaths. Psychopaths make up a very small percentage of the population, about 1%, so its a very small number of people we are talking about, and having just a few psychopaths puts you in the top of the list. None of the top 10 jobs for psychopaths actually have that many psychopaths in them. Its all relative. That said, i dont think its surprising at all that psychopaths might be steered towards a job like a police officer, where it is often expected and necessary to suppress emotions, and be more resistant to stressful situations. Thats the common theme of all the other "psychopath jobs", like a surgeon for example, you dont want a surgeon to be stressed or emotional while he is operating you on the table.
@@FOKI5895 It is definitely possible, normal even, to have empathy and be able to act rationally within the bounds of a profession. Psychopathy doesn't make people into robots! They still get stressed and emotional, but they're not good at reading others' emotions or knowing what the appropriate emotional response to something is. If psychopaths could suppress emotions and be more resistant to stressful situations, none of them would ever turn to murder, because murder is a hugely emotional act.
@@moonlitspud She also said it's a very small pool of data and you cannot make many conclusions. She also said mechanics are among the top jobs. I guess you'd conclude wrenches make you crazy
This was literally the thought I had when I was 10, watching Discovery's Medical or Forensic Detectives. Every episode concluded with: "They would have gotten away with it, if only it wasn't for [insert random screw up]" Sigh...
As someone learning forensic science why is any of this information new to you? It’s easy to find any of it on the internet, I imagine your studies should at least be presenting more information than that.
@@SunnyGoesIn1D I don't study real cases and I haven't gotten to half of what we're learning yet. We're only on unit 2. Some of this information is new and some of it is not.
I saw a documentary where a psychologist was studying the mind of psychopaths (I think). He showed them pictures of people making facial expressions that clearly communicate things like: surprise, happiness, sadness, fear, etc... any normal person could say in a second what kind of emotion was reflected in the picture. Psychopaths couldn't say what the expression on the picture represented. They really had no clue. At some point, one of them looking at a picture that clearly showed somebody expressing fear said: "I don't know what this emotion is, but that is the face people did just before I killed them."
@@justmeagain7Probably fake, or it was just really hard to find a cooperating psychologist. Psychology and sociology do not have a definition for “psychopath” or “sociopath,” and those are not possible diagnoses. That’s because those are strictly legal and colloquial terms, not psychological terms.
That’s actually wrong. The majority of psychopaths struggle to navigate society and social interactions due to their lack of empathy. Only a small group of them become proficient at the art. They’re the ones who make the news.
@6:23 When you start talking about what "wee traits" to spot in a psychopath, the mimicking of emotions specifically, gave me the chills. You described the head of my graduate program perfectly. Her eyes are pitless and without emotion. She often pretended to have feelings and would copy other people's reactions to things but badly. It was so creepy being around her.
The psychopath thing is really better left to professional though, because you’ll have autistic people who also learned by mimicking others emotions, but still feel great empathy.
@@semoremo9548 lots of people, including some "experts", falsely claim that autistics "don't feel empathy", which leads people to believe they're the same as psychopaths.
@@semoremo9548The idea is that autism is just as common as anti social personality disorder so the distinction should be made so people are aware that not all people who have those traits are psychopaths
@@elasnore1523what a lot of comments are talking about, the psychology stuff. She said psychopaths can’t read emotions but they can, and what she said contributes to stigma against neurodivergent people that are no more or less likely than the average person to be criminals
She also said that there is no difference between a psychopath and a sociopath, but anyone who has ever taken intro to psych course at uni will tell you otherwise.
You don't have to lie! The vast majority of beat cops don't investigate murders and have nothing to do with solving murders. Less cops would only have a negative effect on solving murders if it was the number of investigative cops and detectives who were reduced. Fewer cops in general has no effect on this at all.
Right like none of the evidence suggests murders aren’t being solved just due to a lack of police officers. Doesn’t wanna seem to talk about where most police budgets and resources go because it ain’t investigating. Funny.
I liked how she suggested that the higher homicide rate is due to police failing to do their job and STILL presented it in such a way that it was because of the protests instead of, you know, cops failing to do their job. 😂
Whilst it's true that serial killers would be easier to catch than in previous years due to DNA and increased surveillance, there are still unknown persons who are remaining undetected, the sheer number of missing women in Canada for instance has convinced me that is a case of one or more people commiting those crimes that could be serial killers that remain undetected.
This was so informative and interesting!! Not to mention this presenter was… really good at presenting! 😂 i really hope they bring her back for a round 2 because murder is always so interesting
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Jillian was one of my criminal justice professors in college. She is amazing and I’m so happy they got her on here
Where did she teach
She's incredible! You're very lucky.
She's really quite "meh" though. She couldn't even explain the difference between sociopathy and psychopathy. Pretty bad if she's a professional working in the field, but if she was teaching it too... yikes!
Edit to add: And for the people commenting "you explain it then", look down 2 comments. Then 4 comments. Then 10 comments.
Explanations at different lengths with different depth and examples provided to explain the nuance.
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@@eschelarthere isn’t a widely agreed on definition that separates the two. Current literature about it varies widely depending on who is giving the answer but common consensus is that both have similar attributes.
Her reading these silly names and answering professionally is so funny to me
Honestly I think it’s definitely an inside joke with the Wired staff 😂
Big Ballz
Flying Nipple😂😂😂
why the Zodiac Killer writing is exactly the same as the GSK (Joseph DeAngelo)? I comment here because I really hope someone read this, I need an answer! u_u
"@theflyingnipple asks..."
My aunt (who was fairly close in age to me and with whom I was very close) was the victim of a family annihilator. Next July will be 20 years. She is included in a record in the library of congress. RIP Stacey. I miss ya every day
I’m so sorry for your loss. RIP Stacey❤️
im so sorry for ur loss thats awful, rip stacey :(
You shouldn't put this much personal information about yourself online, be careful please, hackers are rampant
@@inamuri6006 My name is Walter Hartwell White. I live at 308 Negra Arroyo Lane, Albuquerque, New Mexico, 87104, in the United States of America.
I’m glad you included the part about “…without really feeling them” in regards to psychopaths mimicking of others’s emotions they don’t understand. As someone on the autism spectrum, the challenges in understanding other people’s emotional states is very real, but that does not mean we LACK empathy or aren’t sensitive to emotions generally. The trouble is that we often shut down due to how overwhelming the intensity of feeling them truly is.
And/or being taught our reaction is “wrong”…
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Not even just 'wrong', but even inhuman.
I can't imagine they're much better at understanding others' emotions than us if they just react like this...
I cringed at that point too for the same reason. Thanks for speaking up! I connect a little easier by way of analogy. I find something we can discuss that is similar and relatable. But I've learned not to press too hard if the analogy falls flat. If that means they think I'm odd, well, they're right.
Some people do lack empathy and aren't bad people. It's about what you do, not what you feel.
Yep they’re basically human robots not good or bad they just are and can’t care about others. And even less go to prison or commit violent crimes
Jillian is amazing at presenting information. It's a crime she hasn't been on before.
50% chance this crime is never solved.
@@logosimian98% chance a male was responsible
She does present well. I will say she presented that chart at 5:10 she framed it as overall homicide when the caption at the bottom says “gun homicide per 100,000 residents.” Homicides and gun homicides are two completely different things
She is not right about some the stuff she is saying but yeah she speaks well enough. For instance a decreased police presence.
Ahhhhhhhh *ba dum tss* I see what you did there.
Man, do I love brilliant, educated people like this presenter.
WIRED has got to be one of the best channels on youtube, this content is so good
The magazine is great too.
Okay WIRED Intern... joke😂
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Good, but biased. She listed no facts, just statistics that have been changed to fit certain narratives.
@@BarkWoof-g4tdon't be dumb
Domestic abuse is such a big issue with small coverage... It's tragic
I can recommend the podcast "Crime Analyst" if youre interested in victim focused crime podcasts, done by an actual professional.
Edited to add that I really didn’t think people would be so upset over the government provided statistics of England and Wales, and the NCADV’s equally valid statistics of the US, each pertaining to the gender breakdown of reported IPV. No wonder males report these crimes less than females.
Original comment:
Something I’ve also noticed is how people think it’s so female weighted? It’s closer to about a 1:2 ratio of male to female victims (so about 1/3 vs 2/3). Very fascinating to see just how media coverage and spins of what an abuser or victim looks like can affect public perceptions, even to the extent where people are actually _overlooking_ the concrete statistics I have provided.
@Alex-ug9wx Here's that guy.
@@Alex-ug9wx "According to the National Institute of Justice, about 9.5% of domestic abuse victims are male. This means that for every 100 victims of domestic abuse, about 10 are men. It is important to note that this number is likely underreported, as men are less likely to report domestic abuse than women."
@@mpGreen03 in England and Wales (my jurisdiction), around 1.7 million women and 700k men reported IPV. Not even bearing in mind the fact males are statistically less likely to report these offences, the ratio is already 247:600 (Male : Female reports respectively).
Now, in the US, where I’m assuming you found that statistic, the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence states that it isn’t 1/9 victims that are male, but rather, 1/9 males that will be victims of severe and ongoing IPV. This is compared to 1/4 women, again, bringing the ratio of male to female victims (respectively) to about 1:2, proving that, regardless of what gender is more likely to report it, IPV rates transcend borders and are roughly proportionate.
I’m really not sure what people are struggling with here.
Thank you Jillian. Elder Canadian here. What you do is valuable. Short, tough, and to the point. Carry on MacDuff. It is refreshing to hear pure honesty.
I love how they follow up a video about Pickpocketing with an interview with a literal Criminologist
LOL
the man be sweating
yeah amazing storytelling
Followed by a video of a mortician 😂
Great presenter, love her straightforward, non biased answers
it weirds me out how she's laughing or smiling and talks so non chalantly
Two on the road tried and failed to kill me around Covid!
Except her answers were very bias and questionable at times. She was throwing out things that were wrong or unrelated at times. For example, "is America the best at murder" and in response, she pulls out a gun homicide sheet. Gun homicides and homicides overall aren't the same thing. Yet she used the gun homicide chart as if to say that it encapsulates all homicides
Yeah. . . She’s pretty clearly a left bias. Which is fine- everyone has their interpretations and beliefs. That said, America is not the homicide winner. Quite a few standouts above us. We just have more guns- people tend to use the most effective weapon available.
@@anonymousperson3023i think america is the most developed country with the highest murder rate, the majority of these countries with high murder rates have little to no growth
Had a psychiatrist tell me "I can tell you're not neurodivergent. If you were autistic/adhd, you couldn't keep a job" BRO what does that even have to do with anything. No way one trait outrules the other 20+ symptoms??
Don't stress over
getting others to define you
like you define you.
Which Is why I stopped therapy and psychiatry. There are good practitioners but the majority are just narcissists in it for the money and authority.
This makes me grateful for my psychiatrist who saw my traumatised adhd self and I got a diagnosis and good meds. Also, I’m self-employed (cleaning) and able to keep a job.
i was told “you don’t have ADHD you have good grades”
That's because there's more concern over a perceived excessive number of diagnoses being handed out rather than the real problem of misdiagnoses. And, I do wonder a bit about how much of the sort of low-grade psychopathy is just autistic and schizophrenic people trying to operate without an awareness of what's going on because clinicians aren't permitted to hand out an appropriate diagnosis out of fear over the "over-diagnosis" problem.
On my dating profile it says my idea of a perfect first date would be hiking...I'm going to change it to a well attended/crowded...anything
Oh my good boy😂.
But then you could just ask them to go to a second location. Or they, you.
LMAO 🤣 NO forests
Hiking on a first date sounds scary as f
lmao hiking could be for the third or fourth date
Seems kinda obvious to me why murders would increase when families are suddenly forced to hang with each other and no one else 24/7.
And some people are being “fiery, but mostly peaceful” in the streets and asking for the police to be defunded…
Good point. Then blames it on gun control as if that was the difference, i think the pandemic had allot more impact
Man, y’all got some awful families huh.
I'm sure lots of other crimes were committed in homes, but a dead body is harder to explain or hide, then a broken rib. So there probably was an increase in many crimes, but only an increase in homicide reporting.
@av_oid defending the police doesn't mean "depolicing." It means that we must stop incentivizing frivolous arrests and start financially penalizing cops when they screw up. Taking their money will certainly make them act better.
I saw an interview with a psychiatrist who talked about the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath. Her simple explanation was that psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made. A person exposed to severe trauma for long periods, such as being physically abused for years, or growing up in a war zone, can cause someone to begin to shut down the parts of the brain that are responsible for empathy and understanding emotion. Conversely, a psychopath is actually born with those areas of the brain being non-functioning. I don't know if that explanation is widely held or accepted, but at least some psychiatrists offer that explanation.
fun fact: sociopathy or psychopathy are not listed in the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders used by mental health professionals. Instead they refer to what's known as antagonistic personality disorders, most notably anti-social personality disorder which is most commonly associated with serial killers.
Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD) and Psychopathy are distinct things. ASPD refers to behavioral patterns and is a mental disorder. Psychopathy is a set of personality traits that are divided into two categories: Type 1 and Type 2. Type 1 typically refers to things such as superficial charm, fearless dominance, pathological lying, etc. Type 2 (Which is usually confused with ASPD) typically refers to things such as aggression, parasitic lifestyle, lack of impulse control, etc
Psychopathy is commonly defined as a combination of 2 or more personality disorders. Antisocial personality disorder is one of them. The other 3 are narcissistic, emotionally instable and histrionic personality disorder. Just having one of those doesn't make you a psychopath.
hmm no that's actually not accurate. First of all "emotionally instable" isn't a personality disorder, it's a symptom of a mood or personality disorder. Secondly, a sociopath and psychopath might share the same singular disorder (such as ASPD or NPD), but the way in which they present the disorder is what distinguishes them. For example, psychopaths are classically methodical, charming, and strategic (CEO's etc), while sociopaths tend to be more impulsive and aggressive (your everyday convicted felon). I would check out Dr. Ramani's videos for some more of these nuances, especially when it comes to NPD.@@blarfroer8066
@@blarfroer8066 Facts. Although I rarely have empathy I still do just very rarely.
And you know what? Honestly I don't give a crap that I am a sociopath. I get it. I am different and all but that's fine. Im not out for blood
@@necroavirusthats one thing ive always wanted to learn more on. How many psycho/sociopaths are there that dont ever end up killing/hurting anyone? I imagine theres gotta be more than one would expect. Cause I always wondered like, if I had a kid and they turned out to have psychopathy or sociopathy would that mena that they would inevitably hurt someone or could they be taught to be just another productive member of society? Id love to hear how/if life differs for you than others
Woah crazy that Puppet Combo got their question answered! They're an indie game developer who do horror games including those involving serial killers/etc, super cool to see this in the video :D
Was looking for someone else who noticed!
I was legit stunned, yet super satisfied. 😁
(Also ironically wearing a shirt of theirs while watching 😂)
I’m glad someone else saw them, I love watching certain TH-camrs play their games , great games
Bro. I saw that name, and I was like “hold up!” Puppet Combo asking that question is insane. Probably plotting for their next game.
Puppet combo omg- Their games are so iconic
i deeply appreciate that you mentioned the “connection” dahmer may have been seeking through consuming his victims. it’s a theory not often spoke about and i think it’s incredibly important for us to consider.
Oh my gosh! This is my professor!! So cool to see her be able to do an interview like this. 🤩
she has a wedding ring on. left hand ring finger...
I recently learned that unsolved cases go up as gang violence goes up, likely because victims are less likely to give useful information, and witnesses are also less likely to be helpful.
When it comes to regular civil cases, people aren't as hesitant to give useful information
Those cases often times get solved much later when alliances shift and people are more comfortable talking about it. It's why none of the people that killed Tupac were ever charged,they weren't identified until after he was killed, even though they probably had a pretty good idea based on an earlier confrontation between his group and the murderers.
i have also heard the cops are scared to investigate cos gangs are extremely dangerous and armed
TRUMP 2024
Glad “Big Ballz” not only got their question answered, but that it was broadcasted.
That chart she pulls out at comparing the US with other countries is only for gun homicides, not all homicides as she says. It literally says it right on the chart (timestamp 05:21).
True, would be nice of her to mention that..
Seems like they have given her the wrong chart but the information she gives is still mostly true. The US is at ~6.3 murders per 100,000 while countries like Germany (0.83) Australia (0.86) still significantly under 1.0 and other "western" countries only slightly above (GB 1.00 Sweden 1.08 etc.)
She also didn’t answer the cold case question. She answered about the clearance of ALL murders.
yes i was wondering about that, i would’ve thought she brought it with her too
She’s clearly got an agenda
“Was Victorian England stabby” 😂😂😂
They weren't actually evil, just somewhat stabby lads.
Still are
they still are, one lad went on a stabby spree with a literal sword 🏃♀️
@@lapislazulii141It's a British tradition 😂😂😂
England was _always_ stabby.
It's nice to see the mention of Samuel Little. We talk about all the other ones so much, but most people have never even heard of Little and his numbers are insane.
this is one of the best of this series by far. would’ve loved to hear her thoughts about poverty/low income vs crime rate
Nothing to say there, even the Greeks knew poverty was linked to crime.
what are you refering to exactly?
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@@watchthedopethrone Yep!
Nothing much to say tbh, thats been researched alot.
just wondering how the search more about that, it's the first time I'm reading about this @@krissygreenidge
We need her back for sure. So informative and interesting.
1:05 but the question was if the 1% of the COLD cases was solved... she answers about EVERY murder case (recent) 🤔🤔🤔 no body noticed, or I understood wrong?
@@agostinodublino1387 Cold cases usually refer to murders. The 1% "statistic" is complete BS. It's about a 61% solve rate nation wide.
love this episode, especially for the breakdown of the crimes, but i will say that at 5:30 you are talking about homicides, but that graph is very clearly labeled "gun homicides" not just homicides
i'd bet because the number of e.g., knifings or strangulations, etc. in homicides is probably way way WAY lower than homicides involving guns
@@swithheld9905 will 70% of all violent crime in America is involving a gun roughly, it still doesn't involve total homicides, it's not as small as people think
I noticed this too, and then when she stated why the gun rates were so high but didn’t at all mention the MAIN one which is gang violence, kind of really shocked me. Like shouldn’t she know that..?
I assumed homicide spiked during the covid pandemic because of domestic abuse. Husbands murdering their wives due to lack of escape, and tensions building.
Definitely a factor.
yeah definitely
@@Alex-ug9wx its the statistics alex
@@Alex-ug9wx why is it weird? I know it can go both ways, but statistically there's more of men murdering their women partners than the other way around.
@@Mana-br4ew The data sets for those statistics are often misrepresented by only giving the percentages, or saying something like "the percentage of female murders by an intimate partner are 4-5x higher than male murders". It's not inaccurate, technically, but it's an intentional misrepresentation that leaves out absolute values.
For example, in 2021; 34% of female murders and 6% of male murders were by their intimate partner. That's a huge difference...or is it? Less than 5000 women were murdered that year, and around 18000 men. So comparing the absolute values its around 1600 female and 1000 male. Which means the actual rate of occurrence isn't anywhere near 4-5x higher for females than males, it's actually only 1.5-2x higher.
Just wanted to say that someone not being able to figure out someone's emotions and mimicking them back is also common in autistic people, who are no more or less violent or empathetic than neurotypical people. Autistic people often have hyper-empathy, we just might not be able to recognize that someone is communicating that emotion to us, and thus come across as cold and uncaring when really we never want to burt someone's feelings and make them feel ignored/dismissed/ what have you. It's about not being able to quickly recognize the visual and tonal ques of someone's emotion, but that doesn't mean we can't relate and feel empathy for it once we realise whats going on. Autistic people can have problems verbalizing and outwardly expressing emotions as well as recognizing others doing so, but that doesn't mean we don't have plenty of empathy to go around, just needs to be a bit more on the nose for some of us. Can't tell you how many neurotypical friends have thought I didn't care about their problems, but I thought they were being very blazé about them and reciprocating the "vibe" because you don't want to like something is a bigger or smaller issue than the person living through it themselves in most situations. I've literally cried because I made some feel bad by not picking up on their feelings and responding accordingly, so obviously not that I lack empathy, i know it hurts to feel minimized and unheard, I just couldn't tell thats what was going on until it comes up later.
Please don't go around assuming people with this trait lack empathy, because its often not the case. Autism is currently diagnosed at 1 in 36 kids (autism, despite being a life-long, unchangeable thing, is almost always measured in children for some reason) and psychopathy is only about 1 in 100 people, so chances are someone doing this "tell" still isn't a psychopath.
What you say about hyper-empathy is fascinating. Makes me think of a sweet autistic adult who attended a church congregation I was part of for about 10 years. One Sunday, my allergies were especially getting to me; I would sniff and my eyes would water. He looked at me a number of times during the service and then at one point reached over to pat my hand and said repeatedly, "Everything's going to be okay." I found it quite touching that in seeing indications he had learned to associate with people feeling upset, his instinct was to be comforting. 🥰
I went to the comments immediately when I heard that. It’s such a common thing with so many neurodiversities, not being able to “correctly” reciprocate emotions. Particularly with gifted people for one, or even people with bpd. We just experience emotions differently than others, or might not even know how to handle and show emotions because society has taught us we’re wrong for being the way we are. It’s horribly tragic.
I feel you so much when you say you’ve cried because you weren’t able to tell your friends’ needs. We don’t want to upset anyone (unless you’re a moron, but that got nothing to do with either topic), and yet we always do somehow. Why do we get called psychopaths because we weren’t able to guess what’s on your mind??? It’s so frustrating sometimes
I was honestly about to comment something similar because the second I heard her say that I was my though now everyone watching this is going to miss judge people with autism as psychopqths because most of us do that too.
Yeah, I realize she only had a minute per question, but I think there needed to be a bit of a disclaimer there.
Thank you for adding this.
My friend is a survivor of Genene Ann Jones and my doctor was Dr Holland when I was in middle school. Small freaking world and my heart breaks for all those families who lost their precious babies. People like Jones should never exist in this world.
Most psychopaths are found in the entertainment industry, politics, law practice and law enforcement. Priceless.
To be fair all of those professions will call your mental health into question disproportionately more than other professions
Left out CEOs of all types, and religious leaders
Just some of the most influential sectors of society. LOL and we wonder why the world is the way it is.
And you owe the benefits of those industries to them as well as your complaints. It's a two way street. Fearmongering is more dangerous than being ignorant to non-murderous psychopaths.
@soonlet4977 True, except Most of the benefits came at a time when CEOs were typically involved in the creation of their companies and even their industries. Modern ones are usually just Ivy-League B-schoolers!! I worked with dozens of the type at a very large software firm. Many had no interest in any aspects of the business other than Stock Options
People aren't hitchhiking in the same way. There's Uber & Lyft now, so it's actually more common for people to get in a car with a random stranger. Though with that, there is phone tracking & ridesharing location info. So still possible, they just might get caught sooner.
It's clearly not the same
I thought this too!
Uber/Lyft aren't new. Taxis existed back in the day. They're a vetted service just like hotels or motels. Everyone is technically in a room with strangers all the time in a hotel but it's not about being with strangers, it's about being with strangers who have a good way to kill you and get away with it.
This wasn't easy for taxis back then and it's even less easy for Uber/Lyft drivers since there would be an electronic record of them picking you up.
It used to be called private or unlicensed taxis but now apparently it's cool. I still don't understand why people would do that?
@@MrBrock314 Taxis are more dangerous because people hail them them; you have taxi drivers who are off shift (therefore no records) drive around pretending to be 'active', get hailed by people who had no reason to doubt this, and then do their thing. Nobody "hails an uber", you call for it through the app, thereby eliminating the problem.
What an amazing data based summary. Some of those questions had political overtones but she responded based on the data she’s researched and ended up responding to those questions with a deft hand. Yes, no, we can’t say. The clarity, the respect for social change, the awareness of decreased respect and funding for police. I like her. She understands there is nuance to crime and punishment.
This was great. Lots of good insight and an excellent delivery.
I think she misread the comment at 0:44 tho. I think it was about how of all cold cases, 1% of them get picked up again some time later and get solved. So that would only contribute to ~0.5% of all homicide cases.
Came to say this. Thank you!🤝🏼
I was looking to see of anyone said this, or I just misunderstood the phrasing or something.
In addition to this, she also read it inverted, in that she thought it said only 1 percent go unsolved, when it actually said only 1 percent get solved. Her last sentence is, "it's a lot more than 1 percent that don't get solved."
I think it's dangerous to describe a surefire sign of psychopathy being unable to read others emotions and mimicking them back. That's also just many on the autism spectrum who already face enough challenges in life without others assuming that they are psychopaths
She’s also wrong. Psychopaths can read other people’s emotions just fine. Where there is a similarity with autistic people is in the imitation of other people’s emotions. But the motivations behind doing so are completely different. Psychopaths are imitating and mirroring other people’s emotions for gain, and they do so quite naturally. Autistic people learn how to do this to survive/cope in social contexts that don’t come naturally or make natural sense to them.
Psychopathy is a huge umbrella term. It is not automatically detrimental or transforming you into killers. Most CEO and military squad leaders would tick all the common "markers" media talk about, yet they are totally fine people. Just have a particular mindset
@@emkstrright? isn’t this lady a detective/law enforcement? why is she answering questions about psychiatry?
Ya i kinda question her sources. No doubt she knows stuff, but just how much she said that wad is kinda questionable as to the validity of her statements
@@sabineedmonds4206 Because cops are all things, are perfect experts at all times, and never ever get it wrong.
Or, at least, that's what she would like you to believe.
I'm glad someone finally mentioned Samual Little. You rarely hear anything about him when people talk true crime or serial killers.
2:57 i agree that citizens are more likely to point fingers and try to play the moral high ground… but also… doesn’t law enforcement ALSO accuse innocent people and subsequently ruin their lives…?
Actions by police officers, including witness tampering, violent interrogations and falsifying evidence, account for the majority of the misconduct that lead to wrongful convictions, according to a study by the National Registry of Exonerations published in 2020.
Yes but laymen do so by mistake and they don't discriminate between income classes.
So? Does that mean it's okay to ruin an innocent person's life, because law enforcement isn't infallible? Especially in this day and age, where the public will jump on the bandwagon of accusation without hesitation, regardless of proof?
@@onkelpappkov2666Ah, so law enforcement makes mistake but does discriminate based on socioeconomic status, that makes sense
Not as commonly as the public does. The police have a failure rate of 5-20% perhaps but the public is about 50%. How many times does the public say "that person should go to jail" with zero evidence? A lot and they're usually wrong.
There is a lot to be said for having training and professional qualifications in a job - it helps!
I could listen to Jillian all day, there's something so fascinating about true crime and the way she talks about it
“Accusing people who are truly innocent” 2:49 hey that sounds like our justice system!
I'm surprised she talked about stress during covid and pulling back of policing, but not the gross social and financial inequalities that worsened since then.
This is a heavily edited video
Maybe the data showed that to not be a factor. Not entirely sure though
This!! When poverty rates rise so does Crime. It’s not greed it’s desperation 😢
Also, think about being in locked down and domestic violence
I understood that her explanation included that aspect, she just didn't go into detail. These are brief answers after all
5:13 i immediately thought ''oh will estonia be there?'' first on the list. It's awesome to know that its THAT safe here
Europe🎉
It must be wonderful. 🇺🇸 😢
She said de-policing is a possible reason for increase of murder rights. After saying it’s a flip of a coin if you’ll get caught.
A criminologist would probably have better knowledge than I do but I saw something the other day about writers on a crime show bringing in a former offender to help them with writing cases, making sure it's believable etc. After some time, the ex-offender said the writers didn't need him anymore because they were so good. It's all information and skills which can be learnt and adapted. So yeah, crime shows can make people better at committing crimes and hiding them.
one independent case doesn't represent an overall trend.
She touched on this in the video though most criminals are not masterminds. Most crimes are crimes of passion done in the heat of the moment. Another thing aswell is that tvs don’t make good sources for how police operate and what they have at thier disposal
“End up accusing people who are truly innocent” the justice system does this all the time.
if the police do it, it's fine
if civilians do it, it's bad
apparently
Exactly. 6% of prisoners are statistically innocent.
I propose we determine who goes to jail through Twitter polls then...
If the justice system is that bad at it, imagine how awful normal, ordinary people must be.
@@Leith_Crowther nah normal people are sometimes better at it
10:35 one study is no where near enough to determine whether or not criminals are learning. Yet only 50% of murders are solved.
This is the fifth Tech Support I've watched and by far the most engaging and entertaining. Love the professor!
So refreshing to hear the correct vernacular when talking about a sensitive topic.
I dont know about anyone else but im tired of the you tube fear of words.
Great host of the video too!
The figure she shows is gun homicides @5:02, not murder. General murder, we're not even top 10.
She is only referring to countries with the same level of development and explicitly mentions that some South American countries are not included, as they are less developed.
In reference to the question about Alex Murdaugh at 9:12, I can say that she's spot on. I grew up in Hampton, SC, and went to school with the Murdaugh brothers, and their family absolutely had a hand in any sort of police investigation that they wanted to. They owned everything and could ruin the lives of anyone that crossed them. Most people were afraid of them. It was the kind of thing where everyone knew about them, but no one could do anything about it. Alex was used to acting with impunity all the time, and they got away with everything for decades. Finally getting a SLED investigation that could be conducted outside of their sphere of influence was the key to finally getting him behind bars, because he ran out of strings to pull to get his way.
I watched the documentary and was shocked at how he basically had his own little fiefdom. The fact that people didn't see that as a problem really explains why our country is the way it is.
Hi. Londoner here 🙋
England is still very stabby.
get rid of that stupid mayor you have
😭
Deport the Arabs and you would be fine lol
We're more trigger-happy here in the States, mate. Cheers.
But now it's more Ahmed the Ripper.
Just for the record that "spike" in the murder rate still left us with a really small per-capita murder rate. It was 0.05%, an increase of 30% still only makes it 0.07%.
This is so interesting to watch. I love watching crime stories and most of the time, the suspects are the people closest to the victim, whether by distance or relationship.
I think something she should’ve mentioned but didn’t is that every single one of these studies she’s referencing is going to be heavily subjected to selection bias. If 50% of murders are unsolved like she said at the beginning, then there’s no way to know if for instance murderers or serial killers are more likely to be drawn to certain careers or start at a certain age in general, or if the killers who get caught are more likely to do these things. Is it that murders are impulsive and poorly thought through, or is it that solved murders tend to be impulsive and poorly thought through? There could be a CSI effect among criminals. If that CSI effect made them less likely to get caught, that would introduce selection bias and confounding bias to your sample, and it would be impossible to identify in a study like she’s saying. It’s impossible to get a random sample of criminals, you can only get a sample of criminals who got caught, so any statistical test that assumes random sampling is automatically useless for generalizing the results to all criminals of that type.
The murder solve rates in other countries are much higher than the US, around 75% vs 50%. So that would eliminate most of the selection bias in those studies
1:03 I'm sorry what's that? 😱
Jillian needs to do more of this. Excellent speaker!
That was an absolutely fantastic Q&A. Incredibly well done by Jillian, thanks to all involved!
6:27 oh god. I do that. Almost everytime I’ve been “sad” in a public setting I was faking it because everyone else was sad and I didn’t wanna look weird
I suspect the solve rate for murder went down not because increased crime (which shouldn't affect the rate) but because its gotten a little harder to convict people without evidence.
1% of cold cases is not saying the same thing as 1% of all cases.
It was Demetri Martin who said those who commit murder-suicide probably don't think much about the afterlife. "Bam you're dead. Bam I'm dead. ..... Oh, hi there. Well, this will be awkward forever won't it?"
pretty sure most people who believe in an afterlife don’t think everyone goes to the same place…
@@KufLMAOdepends on the religion
@@ryboi1337 Don't know of any religion that believes in an afterlife (where consciousness is relevant) where good and bad people go to the same place.
@@MrBrock314 spiritism and universalist christianity off the top of my head. they might be the only ones lol
@@MrBrock314 In Buddhism very morally good people get liberated, whilst every else (including good people e.g. kind parents) takes repeated rebirths as ghost & animals & humans, until eventually, after millions of years, they become very morally good & get liberated. Ultimately everyone ends up in heaven.
Just want to point out that chart was specifically gun homicide, so it likely was not representative of other types of homicide.
The US significantly leads in all forms of homicide. Guns are just our weapon of choice.
Why my TH-cam feed is full of such interesting stuff when I have my exam tomorrow 🥺
I love how Puppet Combo just casually shows up in this video 😂
Nice vid. The part about ten to twenty family annihilations a year gave me chills 😵
Just keep in mind that's about 0.00001% and being hit by lightning is about 0.0003% so you're more likely to get hit by lightning about 10 times. Also, family annihilations can be avoided by picking the right spouse generally. That doesn't mean they won't occur but they won't occur to you in that scenario at least.
@@MrBrock314lol what d**b advice. i’m sure none of these people thought their s.o.’s would kill them. 😂 “right person” lordt. 😂👀
I liked the notion that sociopaths are made, psychopaths are born.
The thing that bothers me about the true crime “fanbase” is the othering of people who are mentally ill. Like she mentioned, theres not necessarily a link between psychopaths and serial killers. The majority of mentally ill people are non violent. Serial killers are sensationalized because they are so RARE. But chocking up killers, even serial killers, to being “psychos” is very unintelligent and un-empathetic thinking
Absolutely fuckin agree
locals in my area suspect that there are two active serial killers. one being a strangler targeting younger women along the I-95 corridor in several New England states, but these killings are only like, one every other year. the other the police deny exist, but there have been a series of drunk young men drowning in the river after leaving the bar.
I'm curious what the odds are that these two trends are *actually * serial killers, and not just random murder/accidental deaths that happen to line up.
Keep in mind serial killers are rare - like lottery winning rare. Fatal accidents are far more common (like 1000x) than murder.
the cops would have to link the deaths together in some way - a pattern would need to be detected. so if a serial killer killed in a different way each time (and didn't leave any DNA) i wonder if they'd just get away with it for eternity?
@@swithheld9905 It's like what (Benedict Cumberbatch) Sherlock Holmes said: "We have to wait until he makes a mistake."
you know. something that really grinds my gears in theese videos. 90% of the questions asked can be answered with the most simple google search " whats the difference between sociopathy and psychopathy" thats a great question. if you typed it in googled you'd get an answer faster than asking random people.
11:46 i did NOT expect the actual puppet combo omg lmfaooo 😭😭
research for the upcoming games😹
When she says the signs of a Psychopath are not being able to read emotions and mimicking them back instead of feeling it. * fades into the dark as an Autistic person*
Autistic people understand emotions. They just struggle to identify them. If you don't feel any, you are probably both autistic and sociopathic. You can be both.
I THINK honestly she's kinda wrong. There is no defined symptoms of psychopathy. Its not a firm definition and its not a real diagnosis.
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Does drive me nuts that she misunderstood this question 0:43 . They said one percent of cold cases ARE solved but she thought the question was about how many cases are UNSOLVED.
Wish I had this woman as a teacher, she’s amazing at explaining things 😊
My wife's best friend was a victim of a family annihilation. In this case, her father was on anti depressants. The morning of the killing his doctor adjusted his meds and they think the new combo of meds created a psychotic break that night...
That's terrifying that changing meds can cause that in a human. I myself use anti depressants and whenever I forget to use them I feel mostly the same. I'm sorry your friend experienced that. Is her father in prison now?
antidepressants often take about 4-6 weeks to start working. So scientifically speaking, no, a few hours, cannot turn someone into a murderer. or at least it hasn't happened before. The adjustment of meds was likely a coincidence. Sometimes when people grieve they look for a scapegoat or seek explanations, which is easier then accepting someone you loved had homicidal intent or was independently mentally disturbed.
they usually don’t happen that quickly.
people will say anything in court.
talk to a doctor.
My deepest condolences to your wife.
As stated above, I don't think the change in medication was a factor, it takes at least a few weeks in most anti depressants to start noticing effects.
What it's obvious a factor to consider is that he had mental health issues and the treatment wasn't working.
He obviously wasn't honest with his doctor, otherwise he would have been put under emergency hospitalisation and suicide watch.
Again I'm so sorry for the family.
Doubtful. It takes usually a couple days/weeks to make a difference. So sad though
Jack the Ripper was actually identified by comparing DNA found in the blood left on one of the victims with DNA of Jack's descendants.
Curious about this correlation she sees between decrease in police and increase in crime, even though only around half of them are ever solved.
I love channels like this one, ALWAYS Educating
Prof. Wilson, a criminologist in the UK, said during covid -19 lockdown, the number of murders didn't go up, but the murders became more gruesome ( e.g. more desmembering going on).
What is so different to the american society that they react differently under pressure?
To be fair to the police vs podcasters in terms of solving crimes, the police has to follow a lot of rules and might be working on several things at once. Podcasters or amateurs detectives sort of do whatever they want to get the answers they want...
The fact that being a police officer is one of the most common careers for psychopaths and serial killers is very telling….
Not serial killers, just psychopaths. Psychopaths make up a very small percentage of the population, about 1%, so its a very small number of people we are talking about, and having just a few psychopaths puts you in the top of the list. None of the top 10 jobs for psychopaths actually have that many psychopaths in them. Its all relative. That said, i dont think its surprising at all that psychopaths might be steered towards a job like a police officer, where it is often expected and necessary to suppress emotions, and be more resistant to stressful situations. Thats the common theme of all the other "psychopath jobs", like a surgeon for example, you dont want a surgeon to be stressed or emotional while he is operating you on the table.
@@FOKI5895 She literally also mentioned police officers as a relatively common job amongst serial killers.
@@FOKI5895 It is definitely possible, normal even, to have empathy and be able to act rationally within the bounds of a profession.
Psychopathy doesn't make people into robots! They still get stressed and emotional, but they're not good at reading others' emotions or knowing what the appropriate emotional response to something is.
If psychopaths could suppress emotions and be more resistant to stressful situations, none of them would ever turn to murder, because murder is a hugely emotional act.
"Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible." - Frank Herbert
@@moonlitspud She also said it's a very small pool of data and you cannot make many conclusions. She also said mechanics are among the top jobs. I guess you'd conclude wrenches make you crazy
I thought what it was is that a psychopath was born that way and a sociopath was made that way by their environment?
Love this series- they definitely pick smart, articulate, easy to understand experts
This was literally the thought I had when I was 10, watching Discovery's Medical or Forensic Detectives. Every episode concluded with: "They would have gotten away with it, if only it wasn't for [insert random screw up]" Sigh...
I wonder if real serial killers ever watch detective shows to find out how to avoid getting caught.
I wanna be a crime scene investigator so I’m very happy this episode exists 😊
As someone who's studying Forensic Science, this video is really helpful and informative.
As someone learning forensic science why is any of this information new to you? It’s easy to find any of it on the internet, I imagine your studies should at least be presenting more information than that.
@@SunnyGoesIn1D I don't study real cases and I haven't gotten to half of what we're learning yet. We're only on unit 2. Some of this information is new and some of it is not.
Psychopaths don’t struggle in reading other people’s emotions. They are adept at it - but for their own purposes, not out of any empathetic drive.
I saw a documentary where a psychologist was studying the mind of psychopaths (I think).
He showed them pictures of people making facial expressions that clearly communicate things like: surprise, happiness, sadness, fear, etc... any normal person could say in a second what kind of emotion was reflected in the picture.
Psychopaths couldn't say what the expression on the picture represented. They really had no clue.
At some point, one of them looking at a picture that clearly showed somebody expressing fear said: "I don't know what this emotion is, but that is the face people did just before I killed them."
@@justmeagain7Probably fake, or it was just really hard to find a cooperating psychologist. Psychology and sociology do not have a definition for “psychopath” or “sociopath,” and those are not possible diagnoses. That’s because those are strictly legal and colloquial terms, not psychological terms.
That’s actually wrong. The majority of psychopaths struggle to navigate society and social interactions due to their lack of empathy. Only a small group of them become proficient at the art. They’re the ones who make the news.
Thats like saying a paralympic runner doesnt struggle with running.
Just because some get good at masking the flaw, does not mean the flaw went away.
@justmeagain7 I mean... this is exactly what she said. That they struggle with facial expressions. But that also isn't specific to psychopathy
@6:23 When you start talking about what "wee traits" to spot in a psychopath, the mimicking of emotions specifically, gave me the chills. You described the head of my graduate program perfectly. Her eyes are pitless and without emotion. She often pretended to have feelings and would copy other people's reactions to things but badly. It was so creepy being around her.
Can you describe manipulative behaviors? Sounds more like a high masking autistic.
saying high nipple with a straight face is a sign of psychopathy???
Lack of empathy is one trait of Psychopathy (generally)
The clarity this woman has the way she speaks is commendable.
The psychopath thing is really better left to professional though, because you’ll have autistic people who also learned by mimicking others emotions, but still feel great empathy.
Yeah? Which is exactly why she specified that psychopaths don't feel empathy. She made the distinction.
@@semoremo9548 lots of people, including some "experts", falsely claim that autistics "don't feel empathy", which leads people to believe they're the same as psychopaths.
@@FayeVert Yeah but that's not what this woman in the video said at all
@@semoremo9548The idea is that autism is just as common as anti social personality disorder so the distinction should be made so people are aware that not all people who have those traits are psychopaths
@@chrischin_94 And, again, she made the distinction.
5:19 The graph shows only gun homicides when the conversation was clearly about homicide in general.
very fascinating and terrifying; yet the bit about a drop in serial killers is hopeful
She's not entirely correct on a few things but still interesting to hear HER point of view and experience nonetheless
It’s scary though when you realize she has power in determining criminology things- not cool to be incorrect with these things
what is she incorrect about?
@@elasnore1523what a lot of comments are talking about, the psychology stuff. She said psychopaths can’t read emotions but they can, and what she said contributes to stigma against neurodivergent people that are no more or less likely than the average person to be criminals
@@elasnore1523 She said murders are way up and there are less police, but that's provably untrue. A quick Google will tell you the truth.
She also said that there is no difference between a psychopath and a sociopath, but anyone who has ever taken intro to psych course at uni will tell you otherwise.
Am I the only one who feels distress when the tweet summary of the response doesn't include the nuance of the expert's answer?
Excellently presented! Thanks for sharing and the best of luck!
You don't have to lie! The vast majority of beat cops don't investigate murders and have nothing to do with solving murders. Less cops would only have a negative effect on solving murders if it was the number of investigative cops and detectives who were reduced. Fewer cops in general has no effect on this at all.
Why do you assume she’s lying? Uncharitable ngl
Where is the evidence that cities are spending less on policing though? We literally see the opposite…
Right like none of the evidence suggests murders aren’t being solved just due to a lack of police officers. Doesn’t wanna seem to talk about where most police budgets and resources go because it ain’t investigating. Funny.
She lied a lot in this video
It's copaganda.
can't help but feel a little skeptical on some of her answers especially on the difference between pschopathy and sociopathy.
Because she got it wrong. Your instinct was correct.
I liked how she suggested that the higher homicide rate is due to police failing to do their job and STILL presented it in such a way that it was because of the protests instead of, you know, cops failing to do their job. 😂
Whilst it's true that serial killers would be easier to catch than in previous years due to DNA and increased surveillance, there are still unknown persons who are remaining undetected, the sheer number of missing women in Canada for instance has convinced me that is a case of one or more people commiting those crimes that could be serial killers that remain undetected.
Especially native women.
Or the amount of bodies washing up in Austin Tx
It could be argued that in the cases of missing or murdered indigenous women, it’s a lack of proper investigation in many cases.
@@88kayleigh it could also be argued that the culprits are police officers. The RCMP has a long history of violence against First Nations.
This was so informative and interesting!! Not to mention this presenter was… really good at presenting! 😂 i really hope they bring her back for a round 2 because murder is always so interesting