Scale Model v.s. Mini Painting | Techniques Compared!

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  • @johnallums3134
    @johnallums3134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    I have always done both scale modeling and mini painting. Never thought of them as separate hobby's.

    • @RuffStuff420
      @RuffStuff420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Because the premise that they are different is silly, if not flat out stupid. The model in this video is no bigger than most monsters in Age of Sigmar. And if anyone can look at the vehicles of 40k and think they are any different from things like car and tank kits in so far as assembly and painting they're just being silly.

    • @preddes6522
      @preddes6522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RuffStuff420 sure but scale modelling can "scale" from this small moon model, to star wars ships the length of a kitchen table used for filming like during the 70's and 80's and even now. With things like the Mandalorian and his razorcrest or Minas Tirith in Lord of The Rings. There lies a difference in making something photogenic for feature films (not necessarily the goal of scale modelling and painting but is a popular and famous usage for it) and having something look good on a table top for miniatures. so while both are the hobby of Model Making, the goal of both can be different but can also overlap.

    • @Ben-fk9ey
      @Ben-fk9ey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@RuffStuff420 It's just the divide between what people like and TH-cam doesn't encourage a lot of crossover. When PeteTheWargamer paints tanks he gets 2k views but when he does Warhammer 40k he gets 60k or whatever. Therefore a lot of different skills and techniques stay in their corners as there isn't a lot of dialogue/crossover between the different hobby communities.

    • @FalloutProto
      @FalloutProto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hell, i do scale modeling for tabletop games that require minipainting

    • @badlanz8642
      @badlanz8642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pretty much is the same thing warhammer is about 1/48 scale The millennium falcon he said he just built was 1/44

  • @karolmalinowski9097
    @karolmalinowski9097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I'm a scale modeller exclusively, but recently I picked up a set of a few minis to paint. I believe it's best to draw from every direction. I like to watch mini painters explain their craft and hope to learn from it myself, because, well... The same techniques apply for painting Commissar Yarrick and a soviet tank commander.

  • @Maltechr
    @Maltechr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was great. I love how you both describe the steps, and often you get the feeling of the other being like "Ah, cool *takes note for own use*" hehe.. It really shows how alot of different "genres" of painting have tech's that can be used on mini's and vice versa.. Keep up the great work!

  • @MSnell
    @MSnell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I think the popularity of AK streaking grime has been a gateway into the world of scale model products and techniques for a lot of people, myself included. My favorite local hobby store now is an old-school model shop that's been around for almost 50 years. It's just a treasure trove of weird products that you'd never find in your typical game-centric stores.

  • @SconeMonster
    @SconeMonster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video makes me so happy. I learned modeling as a kid sitting next to my dad as he built HO-scale military models and he used a lot of the same products and techniques that Todd is using. The models I paint are in the mini style, so techniques and products are things I talk about with my dad now. I'll definitely be sending this video his way.
    Also, I really appreciate these videos where you look at other hobbies and arts (like when you watched makeup tutorials) to see what they are doing that can benefit mini painters. Not only is it so cool to see the different ways the various artists and hobbyists solve the same problems, it really helps expand my vision for what I can do with my hobby-earned skills. I've been able to mix small batches of paint to color match my wall paint when filling in small holes, and re-posing models has given me the confidence and techniques to repair broken holiday decorations. I hope you will be inspired to look at even more hobbies and showcase even more interesting and helpful things, and skilled people like Todd. 😀

  • @chaoticpainting1507
    @chaoticpainting1507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I got back into modeling a few years ago, literally was just walking through Hobby Lobby and walked down the model isle. The nostalgia hit hard and I left with a tank model that day... fast forward 2 years and I'm now balls deep in an ever growing pile of shame that I'll probably never finish, as it always seems to grow. I love it! I used to put models together as a kid, I had the ghetto airbrush set that used aerosol as the propellent but growing up we didn't have TH-cam... I literally had what they showed me and what my mind could think up on my own... so naturally as an adult, I leaned heavy into the TH-cam world to find and learn new ways to paint.. They all do kind of blend together, minis and models... they're all miniature versions of cool stuff that we like to slap paint on... but with varying end results and uses for what we do with them... ultimately, if you're having fun...keep on keepin on 🤘🏼

  • @RavenMinis
    @RavenMinis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Scale models are one of the things that got me into miniature painting. My Grandparents bought me a WWII RAF fighter plane, my Dad and I put it together and painted it together. Good memories, thanks Scott!

    • @bionicgeekgrrl
      @bionicgeekgrrl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How my modelling interests started alongside building model railways with my father growing up, I got into 40k miniatures as friends at school were doing them and thry looked interesting and easier to find where to display them compared with the 1/48 scale Lancaster bomber I built, which was a monster (a hurricane and spitfire in that scale being much easier to display by contrast).

  • @garyjenson8262
    @garyjenson8262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Scott I just figured something else about drybrushing. I still use a paper towel but I accidentally used a damp towel. It ended up producing more even color across the brush and no dusty texture. I'd be happy to send you a photo of what I did on accident last night on some terrain.

  • @ItsYoji
    @ItsYoji 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That dry brushing tip alone would have been worth a video. I learned more from this video than I have in a while when it comes to mini painting.

  • @codypinard1536
    @codypinard1536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent video, loved the walkthrough of painting from both sides of the hobby. I’m a huge fan of the chill and paint with a friend dynamic.

  • @larssonyoungberg5740
    @larssonyoungberg5740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    As someone who got into mini painting from scale modelling, thanks for highlighting how much these related hobbies can bring to each other! I don't see nearly enough of this sort of thing from either side, and think that a little bit of cross-training is a good thing for us all as hobbyists.

  • @oldschoolfrp2326
    @oldschoolfrp2326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool idea, direct contrast of two approaches & techniques

  • @isisnmagic1812
    @isisnmagic1812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started off building plane kits and fell into miniatures, now I do both and it's great to be able to do different things and the skill sets cross over and help to improve you I feel.. I've just finished a stormcast eternal and a Tamiya 1:35 Panzer kampfwagon. Change is always a good thing.

  • @martinz8698
    @martinz8698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This man has the power to become your personal squidmar-harry-potter! Great video, thanks!

  • @brotherjohn2002
    @brotherjohn2002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice call back. This was always one of my favorite vids you did.

  • @JMACCSArmiesOfMiddleEarth
    @JMACCSArmiesOfMiddleEarth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Siiick. That drybrush technique has changed my life

  • @HandsWithLegs
    @HandsWithLegs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I met tod at the last art-a-whirl! Super nice guy and fantastic artist. Really cool to see him on the channel! Crossovers with local artists are always really cool

  • @pa_gaming_dad2810
    @pa_gaming_dad2810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Really enjoyed the video. As someone who started off with models then moved to minis it was cool seeing how the different techniques reach similar results. There is not necessarily a right way, just more tools in the toolbox and what works best for you.

  • @miniaturestash
    @miniaturestash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video thanks! I'll have to try that dry brush technique and not use paper towel next time

  • @Robotneonunicorn
    @Robotneonunicorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Would love to see a comparison with doll painting. I feel like there are techniques from both art forms that could cross over and elevate both

    • @SconeMonster
      @SconeMonster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree! I'd really like to see if chalk pastels and watercolor pencils have any useful applications in minis.

    • @Robotneonunicorn
      @Robotneonunicorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SconeMonster yes!! Exactly what I was thinking! Especially for free hand designs and larger busts

    • @SconeMonster
      @SconeMonster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Robotneonunicorn For sure! Getting two eyes to look alike with freehand is a real skill.

  • @LemanoftheRussVI
    @LemanoftheRussVI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice Scott!! Ive wanted to see a video exactly like this for ages!!

  • @MarketResearchReading114
    @MarketResearchReading114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love you finding local talent and just having them on for a little paint session. I hope more people interested in the kit go to the kickstarter link.

  • @Sergiocalvominiatures
    @Sergiocalvominiatures 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool and interesting video!

  • @FlyingRavenStudios
    @FlyingRavenStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love playing with different techniques from different modelling "disciplines". So many options to play with. Great video!

  • @socko47
    @socko47 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scott, Thanks for “ blending” different approaches to painting. There are always new things to learn.

  • @ScytheNoire
    @ScytheNoire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I think mixing up what you hobby on can help re-energize and lead to new techniques and skills.
    It's cool to see someone who does different types of modeling.
    Wonder if you are using too small of a needle size for a large model. A 0.5mm is nicer for getting paint onto larger models.
    EDIT: Just noticed you mentioned the airbrush, which comes with a 0.2mm needle. Tiny! Optional 0.4mm available, not sure if they sent you that.

    • @TheHarvHR
      @TheHarvHR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a 0.35mm and a 0.2 mm airbrush, aside from primer and base coats (if the model has a single colour, and no camo), the 0.2mm is what I use for 95% of things. The control is far better, and you can shade and freehand things extremely well. I think a 0.3-4 is a good all-round airbrush especially for a beginner who wants an airbrush that will last, but I've built 1/48 models where the 0.2 airbrush is all I've used and I can't imagine going back.

  • @ChristopherFranz
    @ChristopherFranz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its really great to see the similarities and differences as someone who does both Scale and Mini painting and mentally was trying to figure out the differences myself.

  • @frontend5347
    @frontend5347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Miniac Scott, I'm confident that you'll have an easier time cleaning your airbrush tip if you soak a q-tip in some isopropanol and wipe the needle with that from the body to the end of the tip. Helps me clean up dried paint (including primer) in a few seconds without ever applying more than gentle pressure. Your Toothbrush method looks like some real work in comparison to achieve the same result. Apart from that congrats on getting a H&S airbrush. I love that they are super easy to dis- and re-assemble for cleaning.

  • @samhoban2509
    @samhoban2509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Getting into more scale modelling at the mo, so Todd was a great guest. Nice one for always branching out further and further.

  • @ReplicatorFifth
    @ReplicatorFifth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dry brushing is one the he the techniques I have the most issues mastering, very helpful tip about dry brushing on a non absorbent material. I'm going to try that today!

  • @komma8203
    @komma8203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very cool video, i do both scalemodeling and wargaming, its fun to see other pepole also doing both, its a lot more stuff you can do with scalemodels than miniatures but painting both are great fun in different ways

  • @sggee
    @sggee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos even though im not a painter - enjoy building models and terrain. Got a massive pile of shame that needs paint. Super happy for your success and being able to get a commercial space and do this in more of a traditional commercial setting.

  • @longriflem14
    @longriflem14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scott, great video!!! Showing a blending of the hobbies as either generes are art in itself. One thing that would be amazing to see is this same sort of video content but doing 1/35 Scale modeling figures. As this is a real tough area for some modelers in model building and can really make or break a build, vignette or diorama. Just like minis on base or in a scene. Doing a techniques video like this would be a great content piece. And help out mini and scale artists alike. I would even donate a kit to you to use. Thanks again for the wonderful content and your vids got me back into the hobby.

  • @Dayhawk001
    @Dayhawk001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great change from doin Armor/Aircraft an Busts. Looking forward to getting this on my doorstep. Great video!!!

  • @carlstanford7607
    @carlstanford7607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video but would have liked to see shots of the finished model by both artists

  • @cerethpainting6606
    @cerethpainting6606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use techniques from both in both. Great video!

  • @duerf5826
    @duerf5826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started with scaled military models through my dad, then got into gunpla in my early 20s, and finally got into mini painting in my late 20s . Already being familiar with airbrushing was super beneficial when I got into mini painting and being able hand paint helps me a ton with gunpla’s smaller details. Diversity your portfolio, folks!

  • @DBLt4p
    @DBLt4p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the ZP reference with the oil paints, also love how its a tube of watercolor and not oil paint haha

  • @chiselcheswick5673
    @chiselcheswick5673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I make scale aircraft and AFV which at times can be a bit of a grind, but building and painting GW minis is a bit more fun and relaxing as i dont get so stressed over the accuracies. However the end result of a well made and painted scale aircraft or tank is much more satisfying and somewhat justifies the pain. Love both just in different ways.

    • @mastodonseven
      @mastodonseven ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm somewhat the same.
      Not to say I don't put effect in with miniatures only that one I kinda do a more illustrative style while the other I'm trying to recreate realism, which like you I find I put myself under more pressure

  • @KabinMiniatures
    @KabinMiniatures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Scale modelling has been around for a long time and it's cool to see how old and new methods can cross-influence our hobbies.

    • @kyeg
      @kyeg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gundam is one example alot of people will add paint to theirs or I did

  • @micahlewis4452
    @micahlewis4452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think I would like a series where you each paint the same full model right next to each other. Could do a completely random draw for color scheme, or technique. I would really enjoy that.

  • @karlcarpenter771
    @karlcarpenter771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I started with scale modeling doing railroad layouts and diorama. I didn't discover wargaming until many years later

  • @frankw7266
    @frankw7266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been a scale modeler for over 40 years, but have picked up a TON of tips from mini painters, tabletop gamers, & model railroaders.

  • @breakupgoogle4584
    @breakupgoogle4584 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always good to compare techniques to see where each is at.

  • @31Huse75
    @31Huse75 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just want you to know that I go full waynes world bohemian rap EVERY time the outro starts. Hahaha awesome stuff man.

  • @andeejaym
    @andeejaym 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this, reminds me of your makeup video and lessons learnt from other practises, super interesting. Would like to see more stuff from the modelling world, maybe advanced weathering?

  • @dennisfoulds3941
    @dennisfoulds3941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your one of 3 of the best! ( Scott, Jon, and last but not least Vince. The 3 Musketeers!!!!!

  • @Robotneonunicorn
    @Robotneonunicorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m very new to the hobby and seems I’m leaning more towards a model painting style in my shading and blending. I love a soft blend and subtle contrast

  • @BajkonurBobby
    @BajkonurBobby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha! 😄 Love the collab on the outro. 😊👍

  • @ObsidianCrane
    @ObsidianCrane 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most stark thing I see here is Scott hunched down over his work while Todd is sitting up nice and strait.

  • @ResurrectedBrush
    @ResurrectedBrush 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been both a mini painter and a model builder all my life. I've often found it invaluable to mix and match techniques to get whatever effect I'm after.

  • @slaaneshgod
    @slaaneshgod ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive done a little of both and some gunpla in my life and I find that each have a few tools I feel are superior by far. the easiest example of the top of my head is nippers or clippers. The god hand are smooth as butter and far outclass anything else I have used. otherwise most things cross over wonderfully and I have some different things from all of them I use in all my projects.

  • @SundowN101x
    @SundowN101x 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. Good to see something different, I would have liked to see your take on the model though, painting it in your style.

  • @Zadster
    @Zadster 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brave guy to brush paint with Tamiya! I used to use it years ago, and Humbrol/Airfix, then I found out there were far far better paints around. Tamiya is still great for base coating though and general airbrush work.

  • @diazepam4979
    @diazepam4979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can see an Hasegawa SDF1 Movie Version on Todd's desk ....you are a man of culture sir.....protoculture

  • @ryo86ok
    @ryo86ok 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    To further slow down the drying time of Tamiya acrylics, you can add Tamiya Acrylic Retarder (87114) at a 1:10 ratio to the paint+X20A combination. This results in X20A behaving closer to Mr Levelling Thinner and helps for ultra fine airbrush work & avoiding orange peeling on gloss coats. You can also use Mr Levelling Thinner, but the odor and toxicity can be a no-go based on your living arrangements & health choices. Alcohol/solvent based paints are much much more forgiving when compared to water based acrylics for the air pressure-vs-viscosity balance. For miniatures purposes tho, I recommend continuing to use water-based acrylics - the alcohol/solvent based acrylics and lacquers can have a much greater color difference between when you airbrush it vs brush paint it, and much more frustrating to paint details with.
    Thank you very much for a very entertaining video. I've been building models for 20+ years and work on weekends at a hobby store & picking up warhammer last year was one of the best things I ever did to keep myself interested in the hobby. Aircraft, tanks, cars, scifi were turning into the same set processes for every build and I was ready to find a new hobby tbh. Videos like yours have helped me develop skills to comfortably paint NMM and Sigmar beasts in a year's time and my figures for plastic models look so much better now.

  • @SC2Anski
    @SC2Anski 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Todd reminds me a lot of like Jeff Goldblum the way he talks and describes things in kind of a soothing manner. Todd would make some very awesome relaxed paint along videos like Bob Ross.

  • @Antheraws
    @Antheraws 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This inspired me to buy one and paint it as though it was night time and everything glowing from the night lights.
    I never wanted to paint a bust but this is something I would totally do.

  • @antoniogarcia6737
    @antoniogarcia6737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Letter press printing is no joke it is a beautiful process

  • @markgnepper5636
    @markgnepper5636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff friend 👏 👍

  • @FreemenMars1
    @FreemenMars1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed seeing what was looking like the “SDF1 “ on his hobby desk in first few shots

  • @TylerProvick
    @TylerProvick 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing that surprisingly prevents tip dry is making sure to just keep your air going. Don't think of each paint stroke with the airbrush as Air on-paint-air off... air of-paint-air off. Instead, when you begin your application start the air and keep it going until you are done. So, air on - paint... paint... paint... air-off. If you stop your air with the paint you leave a blob on the tip which can cause clogging. If you make sure you're running the air after paint stops this is blown off and won't build up over time.

  • @noops9220
    @noops9220 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s nice that Scott got to bring his dad to work

  • @bradiq306
    @bradiq306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But where is the comparison shot?

  • @Gundumb_guy
    @Gundumb_guy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this the guy who Scott built (or more like STARTED to build) the mechatro wego kit with??

    • @Gundumb_guy
      @Gundumb_guy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That video is what jump started my life into scale modeling btw @miniac so I really appreciate this type of content.

  • @tay13666
    @tay13666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a scale modeler who just dips his toe into the mini painting.
    I've been scale modeling for decades. I started following mini painting here on youtube to pick up some new tips and tricks.
    They are basically the same hobby, just on different scales. When you scale up, you need some different tools, and the same when you scale down.
    Also, mini painting has more of a focus on edge highlighting and OSL. OSL can be done on large scale models for some great effect, but normally you let the room lighting do that for you. When you are working on a kit that is a foot tall or even bigger there isn't nearly as much need for OSL.
    Mini painting also has a whole lot more content to consume. There are so many great videos and personalities. Scale modeling doesn't have anywhere near the breadth of videos or high quality detailed instruction.

    • @DomVonDoom
      @DomVonDoom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's cuz traditional scale modeling comes across as elitist and stuck on the absolute realism. Very little room for artistic expression in the old mainstream hobby realm. It's definitely changing though with more and more accessible tools like CNC, Laser, Resin, FDM etc. Japanese paints are actually easily obtainable plus a plethora of other international products(speaking from the USA here). The ONLY way to keep the artistic part going is to patron your favorite people. It was the way in every phase of human arts. The value is our TIME.

  • @AYYOFLOCKA
    @AYYOFLOCKA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scott there's about 1 min 30 odd of empty frame, also didn't see any turntable shots, I was gutted!

  • @bionicgeekgrrl
    @bionicgeekgrrl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely lots to learn from the model scale modelling scene with the different disciplines having their own unique experience and methods. For instance, weathering you could learn from scale armour modellers, metal panelling and such from scale aviation and terrain from model railways as they focus more on that than the rest in some respects with a lot being bought ready to run (assembled, painted and with digital control, sound and sometimes smoke effects), but they pay a hefty premium! (If you think gw miniatures are expensive try building a model railway and you would struggle to get much rtr models for that money and still need to buy the electrical equipment and other things).
    Perhaps a follow up could be you looking at the various scale modelling creators on TH-cam and doing some kind of collaboration with a group of them from different disciplines, maybe trying a different type of model (ie Scott builds a tank kit and others swap their preferred type). Could be interesting if you did it with a few mini painters afterwards to see what you can adapt to miniature modelling and what interesting approaches scale modellers take with those miniatures.

  • @AndICanTalk2
    @AndICanTalk2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great. I w8sh it was a regular series. Monthly, or quarterly would be awesome.

  • @Pers0n97
    @Pers0n97 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the vid.
    You should do one comparing Armor Painter (historical tank kits and such) technics to mini painting too. These guys honestly put s to shame when it comes to realism.
    Midnightshift is a nice chanel for that.

  • @meepothegreat
    @meepothegreat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have always wondered how much cross over scale models have with miniature painting. Essentially both hobbies/jobs are trying to achieve the same thing.

  • @spyrosvoytsinas697
    @spyrosvoytsinas697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Completely random but what do u think would be a great character model from 40k to practise on?

  • @kraviits6647
    @kraviits6647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to purchase your cutting mat, but 40$ shipping to Europe is too much. Any possibility to lower the cost?

  • @djvertical
    @djvertical 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m getting father / son vibes. Or, Scott and future Scott vibes. 🤣

  • @RichardJRussell
    @RichardJRussell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The funny part is, given the scale you were working at, some of those 'LEDs' and 'screens' you were painting were football field sized or bigger 🤣😜

  • @lavawolf666
    @lavawolf666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i never thought, the technics for the minis, and for the scale models where differend, y good all of them mixed, in every model o mini, i just think of them as tools for my tool box

  • @colourful_soldiers
    @colourful_soldiers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First, let's get this out of the way...very cool Souls of Black T-Shirt Scott! OK, with that said, I found this to be an interesting subject because it touches on an issue I face pretty much every day and that is the dichotomy between "gaming miniatures painting" and "scale model painting". I enjoy both but it does seem odd that for one we use one set of paints and materials and then we use a completely different set of paints and materials for the other. I'm not sure why this is but I think historically it is because of the divergence of "Gaming Store" from the traditional "Hobby Shop". They used to be same thing back in the 80's so we used Testor's enamel paints on our D&D miniatures because that's what the hobby shop sold in the scale model section two aisles over. As gaming stores became more prevalent, we began to see more acrylic paint brands, offering brighter colors, many of which were targeted at D&D players by using fantasy names. Here we are today with racks and racks of colors from half a dozen different manufacturers, all targeted squarely at painting tiny game soldiers. But a "real scale modeler" wouldn't dream of using any of THOSE paints on their Asuka 1/35 scale Sherman M4A3 (76) W kit....I mean, it just isn't DONE! 😆
    Anyway, both segments of the hobby are completely spoiled for choice when it comes to paints and materials designed specifically to address the perceived distinction between building and painting toy soldiers and building and painting scale models. I think you and Todd just proved that great results can be achieved in any genre using any of the modern supplies if you know what you are doing and understand the properties of the paint. Does Tamiya paint airbrush better than Citadel paint? Maybe. But it's likely because Tamiya is lacquer-based and CItadel is water-based, not because one is for "tanks" and the other is for "space marines". It's the properties that bestow the perceived advantage, not their intended target demographic. In the hands of a skilled hobbyist, either will likely get you to the result you want.
    SOOOOOO.....all that is just to say, don't get hung up on what you are "supposed to use" for whatever project you are working on. Find the paints, supplies, materials, tools, etc. that work for what YOU want to accomplish. Most modern hobby products are so good that they can be used for just about any project you can think of. It's all one big hobby. Everyone into the pool!

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used tamya on my first wargame miniature and it's great like didn't need to be thinned also it's a good value too... Which I did find it because of scale molders.
    Edit: Tamiya is Acrylic paint by the way.

    • @mastodonseven
      @mastodonseven ปีที่แล้ว

      The XF range with the right thinner from tamiya can be considered acrylic yes, but not all their paints
      Technically XF is considered a hybrid.
      Also it should be thinned as its best used in an airbrush
      For brush painting there are much better options available.

  • @drunkreefer
    @drunkreefer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice shirt!

  • @Andrei5656
    @Andrei5656 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Scott, love your channel to death, you got us into mini painting. I'd like to add some (constructive?) criticism if you don't mind. We're of the people that need subtitles to understand the English in the videos, and i see you've also added your own text in the same are TVs put their subtitles. When your extra information pops up on screen, they're both unreadable. Would it be possible to have them at the top, or on the sides?
    Also, some added sound effects were too loud compared to your voices and we couldn't get what you were saying.
    Thanks a ton, love the channel.

  • @codelicious6590
    @codelicious6590 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didnt even get into mini painting until my 40s when my eyesight had already begun to quicken towards blindness and my hands are very shaky when Im trying to hit those eyes! Magnifying eyeglasses are the key! I think my hands just start shaking when my brain begins to lose oxygen from holding my breath though!

  • @MrZacharyMc
    @MrZacharyMc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been really looking forward to doing some space marines in the same style I’d do a WW2 Soviet tank. I’ll call the style GrimerDarker.

  • @neil2242
    @neil2242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've always thought it weird that I got barred from joining a mini painting exhibit and getting told that I brought "scale models"; I always thought mini = any miniature, therefore a 1/144 ship should qualify as a mini. It was only when content creators/hobbyists started posting about this topic did I realize people take the distinction seriously. Personal story aside, thank you for sharing the demo. Can we get a creature/human version of this comparison vid in the future (re: painting table/display standard vs. painting naturalistic/museum quality)?

    • @DomVonDoom
      @DomVonDoom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think "mini" is a strict reference to a game even if you never play that "mini". Every thing with the mini hobby is like that, so your 1/144 jet or Gundam etc doesn't fall within that rule. Of course I am completely presuming what you actually submitted so forgive me if I am wrong. I'm only going off my personal experience YMV.

    • @neil2242
      @neil2242 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, you're right except I didn't bring pla kits. I brought 3d printed ship replicas from star wars. Organizer said if I wanted to display Star wars pieces, I'd have to paint minis from the "Legion" game.

  • @SculptSome
    @SculptSome 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have any interest in painting a hulk sculpture i recently completed? ill send it to you

  • @joemacafee7655
    @joemacafee7655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scott, did you use any flow improver (not thinner) with your paint? I usually experience less sticking when doing scale models that way.

  • @JohnVanderbeck
    @JohnVanderbeck ปีที่แล้ว

    So I've been printing out large scale figurines and painting them badly. I watch YTers that do miniatures and larger figurines and I didn't realize there were really any differences in the painting techniques.

  • @onezerotwo
    @onezerotwo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looking forward to you getting a gunpla guest on next those people are weird mutants, but in the best way, they paint like they are painting an industrial object or a car, and the results are amazing.
    Then a film prop person? Gonna be a cool series? C:

  • @jakepeace8331
    @jakepeace8331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are some good gaming stores around Minneapolis?

    • @Miniac
      @Miniac  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Source Comics and Games, The Tower, Game Zenter

  • @Mr_Feyshade
    @Mr_Feyshade 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At my local hobby store, almost everyone has switched to Star Wars Legion. So, I ended up with The Galactic Republic portion of a starter box that I split with a friend. I have tried using the "white armor" tutorials from everyone, and they still don't look right, no matter what I do. I know that you get more views from Games Workshop related videos, but if you would like to try something different, the "501st Legion" Battlebox was just released. Now it's not only white armor, it's the individual markings for several 'guardsman sized' heroes that make it a true pain in the ol' beanbag. I think it would be interesting to see your take on this paint scheme, because honestly, they are the hardest faction to play, AND the hardest to paint. I think that I may post this in a few of your buddy's most recent videos as well. Maybe a collab is in order, to see who amongst you can do the best job with these Clone Troopers.
    BTW: Great video!

  • @countjinto991
    @countjinto991 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i got really confused when i saw the title of this video, and even more confused when i watched it. i always saw 'mini painting' (d&d/40k/warmahordes/etc) and 'model painting' (scale trains/boats/planes/etc) as the same thing. i even see diorama and other scenery painting as the same thing (with strong enough overlap to mini/model painting that again, the line is blurry if not non-existant to my brain). i literally had no idea that some people considered them different hobbies other than their prefered term. or perhaps to simply distinguish what subject matter they focus on. i personally use 'mini' and 'model' painting terms interchangably in conversation; aren't both created from model kits that are some sort of subject matter reduced to a miniature scale? techniques & tools used are personal preference and can apply to both.
    i dont want anyone to get angry at me for this post. im glad this video was made as it cleared up some confusion as to why some YT videos get so many more views than others and why, when i use the search bar, i got such drastically different results. the YT algorithm can be so frustrating.

  • @raletky
    @raletky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool Testament shirt

  • @Bernajoux
    @Bernajoux 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The intentional coffee staining is making me giggle... We usually focus on avoiding it, but it looks great as a large scale burn mark.

  • @rogthepirate4593
    @rogthepirate4593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I honestly never viewed them as different things, to me they're one and the same. Only thing that changes is the model you're painting, but that's just as true when you compare D&D minis vs, say, 40k. Or display pieces, busts etc for that matter. Well, and I guess for scale modeling some people tend to use non-acrylic paints more, which is more of a historical thing to me because they were still way ahead of many hobby acrylics in the 90s (used to help my grandpa with model ships and stuff back then), but nowadays you can basically achieve the same result with both, or close enough.

    • @mastodonseven
      @mastodonseven ปีที่แล้ว

      We use solvent and oil based paints more due to their properties and how we can manipulate them, rather than historical reasons.
      The same goes for acrylic use with figure painting

    • @rogthepirate4593
      @rogthepirate4593 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mastodonseven not my experience. Back then we used mostly enamel paints by companies like Revell because there really wasn't much else, at least where I live. They were a terrible hassle to use, and honestly, had there been easily accessible acrylics ranges like there are today, we would've used those.
      Which is why I specified that it's more of a historical thing *to me*.

    • @mastodonseven
      @mastodonseven ปีที่แล้ว

      @RogThePirate
      OK so you wasn't clear with your wording and left out one detail, but then double down on the statement which isn't correct.
      Yes years ago enamel paints were easier to obtain as they were sold with kits.
      But like I said oil and solvent paints are still used today but no for historical reasons like you say, rather for their properties.
      What you "feel" doesn't change the facts of the matter or what you have since added.
      Again at present model makers don't use certain paints because they use to be easier to come by 30 years ago.
      If you keep your eyes open you will notice table top guys are starting to become aware of the uses for oil based paints today with plenty of acrylic paints marketed at them

    • @rogthepirate4593
      @rogthepirate4593 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mastodonseven I "doubled down" on my subjective experience (which is subjective and therefore neither correct nor incorrect), yes, and I was clear with my wording from the very beginning, if you didn't pick up on this that is on you, not on me.
      I also never said I didn't use oils etc.

    • @mastodonseven
      @mastodonseven ปีที่แล้ว

      @RogThePirate
      Look I've got nothing against you Rog.
      You can't say something incorrect and then call it a "subjective experience" and it suddenly become true.
      Let's say you did "experience" people using oil based paint in the 90's
      That doesn't mean people still use them today because it's "historical"
      You are just wrong for reasons I have already pointed out.

  • @ryanreeves4712
    @ryanreeves4712 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man the difference in posture is wild, great vid though learned a lot

    • @BrianReichert
      @BrianReichert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That posture is for efficiency. When you are crouched over like that you don't have to move the brush as far to eat the paint.

  • @variancehammer246
    @variancehammer246 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The key for me is to go down the scale modeling route, and then back off about 66% of the way in order to get a full army done.

  • @Fatalli666
    @Fatalli666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Drunk Minipainting - New office edition when? 😁

  • @MCXL1140
    @MCXL1140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Big ball

  • @TheHarvHR
    @TheHarvHR 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My main gig is the scale modelling, but mini painting tutorials are *perfect* for figures and pilots. That being said sometimes after a long build I like to dip my toes into Warhammer and paint something else. My hand brush painting skills have got far better from mini painting, my airbrush skills have got far better from scale modelling.

  • @chuppath1ngy
    @chuppath1ngy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe some of y'all brush lickers need to switch to Tamiya paints. It'll be like that bitter stuff Parents could use when we were kids to try and stop us biting our fingernails. Hahahaha
    Another knockout video; it's really cool to see the different almost end result and they both look awesome. This model is definitely out of my wheelhouse but I wll be picking up the STL just because!

  • @G-Whizs_Wizardry
    @G-Whizs_Wizardry 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i do both scale models and miniatures, scale models first....best of both worlds!!!