New Rule: Equality of Outcomes | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
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Bill explores the woke philosophy of “equality of outcomes,” and how it plays into an increasingly vapid, entitled, famous-for-nothing culture.
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Society has gone so MAD, Bill is starting to sound like a moderate.
Almost sounded like he was saying everything the right and moderates have been saying all along. One day he'll say the Donald was right about everything
Bill Maher voted for all the problems that he’s now complaining about.
Yea, that's an ominous sign
Only in this video. He isn't being let loose on Trump, who agreed with him on situations, just never on air...
HAHAHHA YUP
Its crazy how Bill, who is one of the most liberal people on earth sounds like a conservative because of how broken society is.
Edit: I appreciate all the likes but the fact that some of you immediately went into defending your "side" is really saddening. There is nothing wrong with being liberal, there is nothing wrong with having conservative values. The point I was making is that the current state of affairs has become such a clusterfuck, it's hard to tell who is who.
the left has just swung waayyyyyy left recently and bill hasnt moved much so now sounds conservative. wild times haha
I know I fall center right on the political spectrum now but my views have remained exactly the same. Only difference is the rest of the world went crazy.
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It's not the rest of the world it's about 5% of the population with hands in industries and colleges forcing them to share their views of risk being lambasted
Those are liberal talking points, youre confusing leftist with liberal. Always remember leftists believe liberals get the bullet too
@@Mulljackson yup... Leftist in a boat whines wondering why the island is moving right of him.
Bill has been killing it lately with common sense. He may be liberal, but he’s not insane.
He knows what’s wrong but I have a grave feeling the leftists producers are holding his tongue back
The new liberal voice of reason since John Stewart went full woke.
With his echo chamber comment section that shadow bans anyone with opposing views.
He is smart enough that he may not be a Democrat much longer
@@senorpepper3405 na John Stuart retired. That’s Trevor Noah who took his place. But even he isn’t woke enough for what’s happening now.
"Not being famous isn't fair" is one of the best things I've heard. That writer needs a raise!
the writer will never be famous
@@firstnamelastname9179 whooooosh!
Actually I think these famous people make most people not wanna be famous it’s just the few with loud voices
It's not something one of Bill's writers made up, actually heard a teenager saying the same stupid shit.
Just a friendly reminder that adults gave out participation trophies, kids didn't demand them
So those adults taught these now adults to exhibit that behavior. Unfortunate..
Just a friendly reminder that those kids are now adults in their 20s and 30s and maybe, just maybe, its time their parents and you stop making excuses for them.
@@HH-qd2wb which part sounded like an excuse to you?
@@HH-qd2wb how about u get spoiled by ur parents and try to get out of it. its not the same as parents sending u to the military to learn the basic of life
When my kids played soccer and they lost half of the games ( I couldn't get the "we don't keep score" crap. They were all excited to get that trophy. I crushed them at that moment. I said " you didn't earn it". They had some issues. Now we talk about this and they all get it now. They've all become successful. They also are proud of every trophy and ribbon they actually earned. There not all first place either.
At a recent awards event at our school, the administrator started the presentation of awards with the following: "There will be no yellow ribbons for participation. Participation is a requirement for all students. Excellence is earned."
Finally, a blue ribbon might mean something again.
I'm surprised the administrator wasn't fired for promoting white supremacy, racism, homophobia, islamophobia, transphobia and misogyny.
It was never meant to be about rewarding participation, but instead recognising effort. Instead we have two extremes of idiots, on the one side those who refuse to recognise effort in spite of not winning and those who want to reward mere participation. Both groups completely clueless about child psychology. This administrator sounds like they belong to the first group of idiots.
@@ian1352 " thare is no try only do"
jedi master yoda
@@ian1352 I remember when I was in primary school and throwing my participation ribbon in the bin. Where's your child psychology at?
At the end of the day whoever's fast is fast and you should celebrate that and enjoy the occasion, not patronise kids who actually have intelligence believe it or not.
That is actually good to hear! gives you some confidence that the world hasn't gone completely mad!
As a conservative, I have a lot of time for this sort of rational thought. Well said Bill.
Bill Maher sounds like a conservative now
I miss when conservatives and liberals could have honest debates about policy issues instead of this insanity we have now that states all liberals are godless communists and all conservatives are racists.
Bill Maher would be the same to complain about the top 1% of earners.
@@chiragrulze You mean he makes good sense.
he is, he just doesnt realise it cause he didnt change. The world did.
I am a conservative republican and don't usually agree with much of what Bill says but this is so refreshing to hear. I completely 100% agree with his sentiment. It's great to find common ground with someone who is a liberal.
There's a lot of common ground in the middle, the people on the fringes just scream loudest
Bill has some faults for sure but he preaches what he finds true rather than what one side agrees with. A free thinking human.
Maybe stop thinking in those myopic terms and you'll see how much better life gets
@@kyletorres8510 Yeah, I still don't get why people think so black and white. Being surprised when they actually have things in common with people from 'the other side'. We all generally want the same things (peace, freedom, good healthcare etc.) believe it or not. And Bill Maher is just advocating for common sense, there's no politics in that.
When Bill has conservatives consistently agreeing with him you know Dems are screwed
WhenI was college, I knew a girl who complained to a professor because another girl in the class got a higher grade than her... they didn’t study together, she just didn’t think it was fair that she got a lower grade.... my mind still can’t comprehend her thinking
We need a new plague
@@hamzamahmood9565 Uh, we are in a new plague: It's extremely buggy and only really killing old people the most.
I think we can both comprehend it. We just have a hard time justifying it.
Wow. That fucking very anecdotal story completely proved Bills point.
Fuck, people are stupid.
Maybe they were both banging him and she didn't like like coming in second.
When Jordan Peterson said this a couple of years ago they called him all names in the book.
Funny thing is that this skit went over the head of most of the idiots in the public.. basically the main issue is judging the world by Equality of Outcome.... Literally BLM, ANTIFA, Women's activists... Pretty much most of the Democrat party bullshit agenda is based on their bullshit
@@lovinmclovin5290 Yeah, not true at all.
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That's not what he said. You're assuming a bunch of things. Probably because of bias.
@@lovinmclovin5290 definitely 100% truth. It's the Communist agenda on full tilt.
Right, but he doesn't bow to the narrative so,,,,,,
I am incredibly thankful that I played sports before everyone got a trophy. I’ll never forget when my Little League coach asked me if I wanted to know what it felt like to be a winner. Of course I wanted to feel that. “Then put in the work. No one will hand you that feeling. You have to earn it.”
Yikes. Sorry you had to deal with a coach like that.
@@TheAudioman15 I appreciate that but I embrace his direct communication. I know that doesn’t work for everyone but it’s my preference. I played youth sports when score mattered. There are winners and losers in sports and life in general. He taught me a valuable lesson I wouldn’t have received elsewhere. I made the all star team the next season. I took what he said to heart and put in the work. I went from a scrub to an all star in a year because of the hard work my coach inspired.
@@TheAudioman15 what the hell kind of weak-minded individual are you?
@@cylecoles don’t waste your time explaining to him lmao
@@rangvald4036 every generation and individual is different. I don’t begrudge the person for expressing how it would feel to them. It’s hard for some people to imagine a little league coach talking to a kid the way he talked to me. He knew how to motivate me and I’ll be damned if it didn’t work. I have been that way ever since. I have the confidence to take risks and succeed.
As a 90s kid, not single one of us were fooled by participation trophies. Of course we could tell who got 1st, 2nd and 3rd. But who put them on a shelf and clung to them even after we'd grown up and moved out? The parents.
When I got my first participation ribbon at the 7th grade science fare (1997), my immediate thought was, "why did I put so much effort into this, and why should I next time?"
When my kid said he got a 90% on his test, my question was "What was the class average?" But certainly there is a way in boosting up the confidence of the less talented without giving everyone a trophy.
If anything they just made you feel shittier. I once got a "Most Improved Player" trophy on my little league team. We got trophies and we were THE WORST team in the league. Didn't make us feel good. I was actually a little embarrassed by being the "most improved player." I'd rather have just gotten nothing.
I'm 50 years old, so I was a kid in the 80's
Last day of school of second grade we had like 4 events, can't even remember what exactly they were. I remember I placed in top 3 in 3 if the 4 events.
We were given ribbons for top 3 places, a white ribbon for participating if you didn't place. I remember throwing the white ribbon in the trash right after I got it.
Can confirm, I got 3 of those trophies playing football in middle school. I'm now 40 and could not for the life of me tell you where those things ended up over the years.
The ironic thing is Rolling Stone is a major media source that I bet would not apply the same "equality of outcome" principles to its own industry that it longs for in the music industry.
they basically run the rock n roll hof only the top 95% get in
I know, my internet comments just get no likes, no matter how many I make. No income either! Darn unfairness.
@@QuadCloudNine I gave your comment a like because everyone deserves a like. Equality of likes.
He misrepresented the Rolling Stone article and then undercut his whole meritocracy argument by bringing up Kylie Jenner.
@@DustinLaGriza Not really because he wasn't defending her.
He's a lib. But he's smart, pays attention and seems, most importantly, to be intellectually honest, which is the rarest virtues today.
He's a mature adult.
@M S Apparently someone who disagrees with your narrow view on life and society=deranged.
@M S Practically everyone has cognitive dissonance of varying degrees. Thinking otherwise is juvenile. For example: I believe animal cruelty is horrible and that livestock facility standards need to be improved, but I still eat meat every day. The same can likely be said for you and millions of other carnivorous Americans.
According to your mindset, practically everyone's opinion is invalidated.
@M S Yeah but it tastes like shit. That's me just liking good tasting food.
@M S seriously man, that's ALL you got from that analogy? Not a lot going on up there, huh?
As someone who has worked for everything I've ever gotten, I can't love this enough.
I'm also moderate. I wish more people with big voices were moderates. Common sense needs to return instead of being a rare super power.
I agree that those at the extreme end of either political spectrum can be pretty crazy but personally I view moderates as being to slow to change. We have rapidly evolving problems and so we need more drastic solutions. We can't afford to take a more moderate approach that will only show its effect a decade later. We need drastic policy shifts that will have immediate impacts, even if they have some unintended side effects.
You plan on giving up your hard earned money so that others can have reparations?
You same "moderates" cheer when Trump is charged with lawsuits to attempt to sway elections"
Moderates are the same ones cheering books like this book is gay, that explains to CHILDREN "scat" eating is eating poop and it's a legit "kink". ... ..to CHILDREN.
These same moderates voted for Biden, follow climate nonsense....
Libertarians and Conservatives are the ones trying to protect people. Moderates and liberals create inner-city hell, homelessness, illegals killing Americans.
How the hell do you sleep at night.
Bill, you have finally found your true niche in life. Now that you are giving 'it' to 'both sides' so powerfully and fairly, I think there is a resultant inclination by everyone to take note and listen. You might very well be the first person to actually get people to not only talk to one another again but get them to actually listen to each other, too. The media won't do it. Maybe you'll be the person everyone comes to when anyone wants to hear 'fair and balanced' about anything. When I've got a few minutes to sip a cup of coffee, your 7-minute monologues are my most favorite things to watch. Please keep doing everything you're doing exactly as you're doing it.
The parents who were handing out trophies were really feeding their own egos and broken souls, not rewarding kids.
100% I hated that crap even as a kid and believe me I wasn’t getting no 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place ever.
So is Nobel prize. When I was in graduate school studying biological science, my professor said, most of them really don't deserve any. "It is my mom said I am the best prize - Nobel prize". Completely corrupted. According to Le Ban, any decision from a group is defined by the most stupid member in the group, not the smartest one. Warren Buffett has something similar to say. Group decision is the most stupid one.
"Group decisions - my perhaps jaundiced view is that it is close to impossible for outstanding investment management to come from a group of any size with all parties really participating in decisions" - Warren Buffett.
No.. trophies make the kid feel good. It’s like adults who show up to work and still get paid. It takes a lot for a parent to commit to getting a kid to all games and practices. If you e had one or been a kid who played sports you would understand. Usually a trophy at the end of the year is just a show of appreciation to the kid/parent for there time/commitment. This sounds like a comment from somebody who isn’t athletic, just assuming
If your dog does a trick do you give them a treat? Same concept.
@@FreddyNietzsche. but he just said participation trophies reward effort. The effort of practice and showing up is not winning but it's still effort. Worth a small trophy, not a big one.
Well, that was refreshingly grounded in reality.
Quite unlike his view that Biden is an "oldie but goodie" whose demented peccadilloes are not funny. He actually thinks that Forgetful Joe is doing a good job.
Reality is selective for Mr Maher.
I'm getting scared. I have now agreed with Bill Maher twice! This and his China wins because we are silly.
Not necessarily with the first part of his New Rules. The second part of his New Rules starting with Paris Hilton though is SPOT ON!!
You should listen to him more. He's the only talking head that keeps me sane.
@@Mangsaab1954 exactly
Peterson makes a similar point about how tearing down barriers can actually increase inequalities. In countries where opportunities for men and women are the most equal, you see greater differences in career choice.
He also argued that if you take down barriers you will be left with things that is impossible to remove for example gender and ethnicity thus making the gap much more wider.
@Brian Zyes we keep things the way they are . To try to enforce equality of outcome is stupid because it's not real.
@Brian Z Idk about keeping things how they are exactly. But you certainly don’t pursue the things that’ve been tried for more than a century and repeatedly resulted in staggering poverty, misery, and the largest genocides in recorded history. Pursuing equality of outcome being at the top of that list.
@Brian Z it is called reality.
The only way to fight inequality is fighting personal choices.
I listening the songs I like, I read the books I like, I see the sports I like.
Guess what, I have the same tastes than many others have.
That is what makes singers, writers and players well paid.
What is your solution to solve that? All payed equal, no matter market preferences? It is possible, as you can see in Cuba. However, why are so many Cubans risking their lives to leave Cuba?
@@shashankachar2800 what about equality of opportunity??? In most conservative countries, equality of opportunity does not exist.
"The face that launched a thousand little shits" is the best line I have ever heard.
The Grammys aren't about meritocracy, at least in the sense of actually making music, and the Grammys aren't about streaming, either. The Grammys are about the narcissisms of the already rich and powerful, patting themselves on the back. There is lots and lots of music that lots of people love that never gets a smidgen of attention at the Grammys.
You don't have to worry about awards at all if you are successful from your music they're irrelevant.
The Grammys are a celebration of artists that are promoted by the record companies and the music they want to be popular.
@@mcluvin65 exactly my thinking. Bill is right, but his grievances are misdirected here.
Jay z. Beyonce. Gone
Absolutely. It's what you might call a talent monopoly.
I love agreeing with someone I often disagree with.
I'm not fooled. It's all just buyers remorse. They bought this collapse, they can all perish under its crushing and burning mass. I'm only saving my own.
Especially if that individual is known for slamming people, in the past, for saying the exact thing he is saying now.
@@centex7409 Bill has always called this kind of stuff out.
weird take but ok
I usually would. But a broken clock 2x a day...
"In a perfect world, the bottom one percent of artists would get one percent of activity"
That would mean the top 1% would also get 1% of activity
Badly phrased in the article. It just means its a uniform distribution, no top or bottom. In reality you naturally get exponential distributions for a lot of social phenomena.
What that would mean is making play random, so that every submitting artist has an equal chance of being played, with no favorites at all. Kind of the ultimate "equality of outcome" result. Interesting that the article would consider that the ideal from which to measure imperfections.
“Yes these are called the good ones”
Absolute GOLD!!
As an Indian student in the west, when I joined the elementary school, my first impression was, " I am a human being?"
The whole "everyone is a winner" was completely incomprehensible.
The irony about that thinking is everyone became a loser. I’m so glad I just missed growing up with that.
@@matthewklahn7523 nah. What’s right is to do away completely with that stupid thought of “everyone is a winner”
Losing is the best character builder. And the best motivation to do better. Telling a loser they’re a winner is counter productive and dishonest
@@frankzappa9148 Also, when everyone is a hero, the word becomes meaningless. Too much over use of words folks. Since I'm 65, If I'm called an old gray haired fart and do indeed fart on a regular basis, I don't need confirmation. And stop calling others the same thing, we know we fart, leaves us alone. (Ode to George Carlin)
Believing every child has good qualities is incomprehensible? Holy shit. They are not giving each kid a statue.
As opposed to the humanistic Indian way of calling you offspring a disgrace to the family if they get less than 1500 in their SATs?
"Yes, you may have a voice, but we have ears!" Another unexpected clip from Bill.
Bill is the voice of truth, speak on Bill!
There's nothing wrong with being a liberal who also thinks honestly and has common sense. It's just so rare that it throws us off when we see it. Good on him.
Agree with the premise but then U insult all liberals .I could say the same about hypocritical conservatives ..why not just say good point and give him credit for using common sense .it would be nice if the hannity and carlsons of the world would do the same on some issues instead of being partisan hacks
@@arunsalwan8558 Not insulting all liberals. Just mentioning that it's rare among liberals in the media--IRL is a different thing. The same could be said for conservatives in the media, but there is very little conservative media. There are a lot of nonpartisan centrist or even liberal voices that are 100% reasonable and rational, but they end up labeled as conservative and often suppressed because they don't toe the line the liberal media is required to--anyone who departs from *the message* agreed upon by the leftmost fringe is branded conservative. At this rate, that will include Bill Mahler soon. Freedom of thought and expression used to be more of a liberal value when I was a kid, but it has changed 100% since then. Liberals have almost unlimited power in media and power corrupts.
@@bendirval3612 your definition of a liberal is incorrect. Anyone that isn’t conservative, whatever in the world that word even means anymore, isn’t automatically a liberal. Liberals actually agree quite a bit with what Bill is saying. It e just that most of us think it is stupid to be focusing on stuff like this when we way bigger problems to be dealing with in this country. Child poverty is off the roof, but let’s dedicate 15 mins to talking about an issue that hardly affects any of us - that’s the reason why you don’t hear more about it from the “liberal media” as you call it. There is a major chunk of this country that is so batshit crazy that it still believes Trump won the 2020 election. And there is an entire media ecosystem dedicated to keeping that lie alive, solely because its viewers are too much of a snowflake to accept reality. But hey, let’s dedicate time to something as trivial as this? Nah
@@TheAudioman15 I'm not the one who considers anyone not toeing the hard liberal line to be conservative. As I mentioned, it's liberal media that does that. Bill Maher is very far from conservative, as are tons of liberal and centrist people who are called conservative (the whole intellectual dark web). Sadly, the majority of the time and effort spent by politicians and political voices on both sides are not focused on the most important issues. That's probably because they don't have good solutions for them. The grammies and other issues made fun of here may not be important, but the belief by many of the population in equality of outcomes is very important and detrimental. That belief leads to lots of crazy things and, historically, to totalitarianism and genocide (as it did in Russia, China, and other places where it was adopted as policy). He's making light of what is actually a critically important issue.
@@bendirval3612 I beg to differ on the critical
Importance of the topic. This topic is made up to be an important one because of the right wing media in this country, who don’t have solutions to offer on anything so have to piggyback on silly stuff like this to stay relevant. What’s with blaming the media for everything, though? When has the so-called “liberal media” ever called someone a conservative for not being liberal enough? You’re just making facts up to justify what you’re saying, instead of going at it the other way around. The progressive wing of the Democratic Party has plenty of solitons to all sorts of problems. You should give them a listen. I’m a huge Bill Maher fan, even though I agree with probably only about 20% of what he says, because he is authentic and has always been. This one is just like his stale take on Islam. No one is actually disagreeing with the premise of what he is saying, but they are simply tuning him out because he is addressing a tiny little problem. Right wing terrorism far outdoes Islamic terrorism in this country, so let’s focus on the big issues - is all people are saying. It’s a good laugh, but no one should really take this any seriously. If they did, they’d simply be wasting their time focusing on the silliest of things instead of focusing the country being under assault by an increasingly insane right wing that is far only growing dumber by the day.
Even the Grammy winner’s music is garbage. Just because it’s number 1 does not mean it’s good.
Because when referring to art, "better" is subjective.
Exactly. A perfect example of this is Fox News. For years they've been the cable news network with the most viewers and they will brag about that but in no way does that make them the most accurate or quality source for news.
What in the world are you talking about? “Number 1” means the most watched/listened to. Why are you conflating 2 different things? Most popular is not the same as “best”. “Best” is subjective. “Most listened/viewed” is objective. A Number 1 song and a Number 1 news channel is objectively the most listened/watched. It has nothing to do with “best”.
Just cause it sucks doesnt mean its not the most listened to, Just because liberals dont watch news like conservatives do, doesnt mean Fox is any good. But its the most watched.
svscared I wonder how many times Fox News has had to retract a story or got sued because of one of their stories compared to a news outlet say like cnn???
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😂😂😂💀💀 thanks man got a great chuckle out of that. CNN a news source 🤔🤔 which means Don Lemmon is a Journalist or Cuomo damn I can barely write this I’m laughing so hard. There isn’t a such thing as news anymore or journalism they shot that pony dead years ago and before you start saying stupid shit like I watch Fox News or I’m a trumper I do mean from both sides. News is fucking impartial there is no bias to it and it needs to be reported as such which they have forgotten
The more things change the more they stay the same. Back in the day labels used to pay DJs to play songs on repeat until they became famous, now labels pay tiktok girls to dance to their songs, and the less clothes they wear the more famous the song.
Yea, tik rok, gotta love it. Just like the stupid dancing nurses, amazing how they made time to learn, practice & record those idiotic dances during the “pandemic”... & all over the country too?
its very interesting because we are sorta living in the Demolition Man future, songs on tik-tok get popular based on the 5 or 6 second loop, which people use to tell a little story. Thats a Jingle kids. You're making us listen to glorified commercial jingles.
Marketing is the same tool in a different toolbox. Playing the angles is how it's done. Repetition is one angle, sex is another. We are always being 'sold to' by someone who is playing an 'angle'. It's an industry all by itself.
It seems that the point flew over your heads. If a song is bad, no amount of repeating is going to help. Quality always shines through, and intersectionals don't like that.
Back in the day? That still happens. Payola is very real. And you can pay for streams and views now, too. Nearly every artist does it. Radio stations have to stick to a playlist of 100 songs. That’s why you hear the same songs over and over on the radio.
I grew up in the 90's. I used to be on a gymnastics team and I got a trophy every mwet I competed in, even if I came in last place. One time I got sick and could couldn't compete in a meet that I had signed up for. I was shocked when a few days later, my trophy for that meet came in the mail. I couldn't put it on my shelf because it just seemed weird to have a trophy when I didn't even participate. But because my folks paid the meet fee, I guess they figured I purchased the trophy.
Did they at least give the people who actually won a bigger, better trophy?
@@B3Band Just slightly bigger or it would be unfair ;P ^^
Lol a participation trophy and you didn't even participate.
Not sure I agree with everything said here... Algorithms play a HUGE part in what is presented to users streaming. They tend to favor mainstream artists that also have the economical power to actively help push their contents across platforms which in turn makes them come up 1st in searches & as "suggestions". (Even untalented ones)
Granted there is a lot disposable or plain bad artists music out there, there are also plenty of talented people that never get seen because of how it works.
I am sorry but when you look at the music landscape today, most of the trending popular artists are releasing low quality, regurgitated, recycled garbage that pollutes minds instead of enriching them. Bad Bunny & tokisha are the perfect exemple of that....
This! This X 100!
Bill's audience still haven't realized that they're laughing at themselves...
How so?
Best comment
I think it's just his crew now
The blind leading the blind here
They’re the little shits.
Meritocracy requires equal opportunity, not equal outcome
But not equal outcome. That's the point he's making
I think that Canadian just explained the entire crux of the matter.
@@zoso73 the thing is we don’t have equal opportunity, that’s the point bill is missing here while bashing millennials
@@daryno9073 There's equal opportunity on streaming. What are you hard of hearing?
@@OhCrap247 isn’t bill just using the music industry to address an boarder point on millennials in general? I’m pretty sure he isn’t just talking about the music industry here
My godlessness - THANK YOU BILL MAHER
“The face that launched a thousand little shits.” That’s effing brilliant.
I worked at a college radio station back in the day playing artists that rarely got their big break. The reality is, many people like what is popular and familiar and make no effort to seek out anything different. It's dismissive and lazy to say if an artist were talented they would be popular. There is some amazing stuff out there if you're willing to look.
Totally agree. There's also more luck to it than we'd like to admit, and yet there is some amount of access to a wider pool of music, as opposed to none, which I think is an improvement.
If artists are in direct link with listeners, what is the great conspiracy on why public ignores them, sine you claim they are talented?
Great comment. The music I listen to regularly is just incredibly incredibly beautiful and wonderful, and it's all stuff that the overwhelming majority of folks out there have never ever heard before. There are just so many great artists out there that most people are completely unfamiliar with. That's the stuff I listen to all the time.
I totally agree with you, but I think the point Bill is making is less that they're the only good ones and more about people believing that they 'deserve' to be popular (similar to the American Idol auditions he mentioned).
Yes. Though, Bill is right that RS is not being realistic to say that in a perfect world every 1% of acts would get 1% of the market.
ISTM there have been always very talented creators who were only known in their region of origin or to a small niche following -- so Bill should not generalize -- and at the same time that does not constitute an injustice in itself because people will listen to what they like -- so RS misses the mark.
Why is Bill Mahr sounding like a conservative these days?
Because he's talking reality, maybe?
Yeah, IDK what's going on, but I voted Trump twice and am beyond sick of mainstream of both sides now. Bill's monologues are very refreshing for me
I can't believe Maher is a fascist alt-right loon...
Love his spoof on Paris Hilton!! "The face that launched ...."
There's nothing less liberal than setting an in or out list for everyone on a basis of what your group believe to be moraly correct. Bill gets the point right in the money.
"Kylie Jenner is a billionaire for the ability to sit near a pool" 😂😂😂😂😂
She obviously obtained that based on merit.
@@yfna1 No, based on familial celebrity and changing her face.
Exactly
Nooo it's because..... 🤔 wait you're right
If she put out an album, it would sell millions of copies and meanwhile, millions of talented musicians will go unheard. Answer why that is a true statement
Welcome to the party Bill. You're a little late, but at least you showed up.
he should be shown the door
NO HE DIDN'T! There are many conservatives that are too stupid to realise they are conservatives so they vote Democrat.
Many blacks and Latinos have conservative values but vote Democrat.
This is the main reason why the #walkaway movement is being attacked by the left.
Trust me, Bill Maher has NOT realised he's a conservative yet.
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@@ssjwes why?
I LOVE YOU Bill Maher ❤️❤️❤️ your show makes my days brighter and I laugh from ear to ear on subjects that most of the times make me one Van Gogh them right off 😂 you're amazing! love your shows
As Moderate Liberal Republican, this sentiment is just a breathe of fresh air. I'm glad someone out there is saying exactly what we're all thinking
Bill's argument about meritocracy would be a lot better if the music industry didn't suck so much.
Or maybe the ppl choosing to listen to garbage are the ones who suck? 🤔
@@Matthew-wz8ig It's a case of industry driving art instead of art driving industry. It would be like if you made a similar argument as the one Bill makes, but it was about the culinary industry. It would mean that fast food is clearly better than haute cuisine, because people prefer cheeseburgers.
It is true that music industry is forcing its easy to make shit onto general public but at the end of the day someone still has to buy that shit. People are still choosing to listen to garbage.
We have Coca-Cola and McDonalds where I live , nobody buys them.
@@DDWyss Excellent comparison.
@@djmartens123 not really, food is essential and fast food is quicker/cheaper than a 5 star meal so some ppl are just buying what they can afford/what's convenient, however for the most part, a song/album written by a garbage artist is the same price as one who's considered not garbage
5:48 "She's the face that launched 1000 little shits" that's a fucking great line
Yup, especially that her name is Paris. I love double entendres.
Paris of Trojan
Yep simple yet eloquent with its brevity.
The whole culture of the internet, the whole "influencer" culture is sooo cheesy and pathetic. I feel kind of sorry for people who think internet popularity has some enduring values. Please like, please subscribe, please follow, etc it's all just so desperate.
Young people's entire moods and sense of direction is hinged to the rising or falling of a number on a screen. Influencers add nothing of value to the world "hey look at me, I look this particular way and I'm telling you to shop" ... social media internet culture is so painfully sad
'Meritocracy' - such a beautiful meaningful word.
Bill, love it. You are getting it now.
“Listen up buttercup, you don’t get a trophy for everything you suck at!”
But unfortunately some kids are seeing mediocre not that talented artists getting Grammies for their music that isn't about talent. More about schtick, shock value, what trends on social media and streaming quantities of their songs. So yeah this is where kids are getting that "I deserve a trophy just because" attitude from based on what feeds their current music diet. Thank GOD I was an 80s kid and at least then there was more talented people even with some non talented people of that era.
buttercup .... ha ha ha ha
I fit comfortably in the bottom 1% of bridge builders and everyone should be thankful they don't let me build 1% of bridges.
@@SpecialJay You’re probably not a child either, so what is best when taking child psychology into account is not going to apply.
Butter is a good song, I like listening to it.
i love this version of bill maher
@X X whats "my side"?
@X X probably moderate/center right bill maher is the best
@X X how can you even know his side? What are you talking about?
@@whoknowsbb5705 he just assumes people who dont agree with him on everything are on the opposite side. Some people just dont understand you can still be liberal and not agree with every policy or opinion on the left
Bill Maher the saviour...
I’m a conservative but just love Bill’s common sense and the hilarious way in which he comments on the stupidity these days.
The same difference would be buying a present for a little kid on her birthday, and also buying another for her little brother just because his older sister is receiving one that day; that is "trophysyndrome."
We need more of this. As a republican I really respect Bill for coming and fighting against this nonsense. He is against cancel culture and pro free speech. Bill I don’t agree with most your political stances but you have a fan in me. I’ll keep an open mind when watching your stuff... keep it up sir bravo
Your party has gone insane. It's turned fascist.
It makes sense that a lot of people want to be a celebrity. What doesn't make sense is that so many are deluded enough to think they have what it takes to be a celebrity, and that they are entitled to it, despite never having worked for it.
Thank you for saying what a lot of us don’t have the balls to say…and it NEEDS to be said!
Bill Mahar is rare amongst Talk show hosts/commentator's/ comedians, in that he is willing to engage with those with differing opinions instead of just sniping from a distance. Much respect to you.
unless of course you follow people like Shapiro, Rubin, Weinstein, Peterson..... who all regularly chat with with people with differing opinions.
@@iamisaid2295 Ya, but maybe because bill leans to the left?
@@iamisaid2295 those are all grifters...
@@michaelsierra9 Hardly. It's because he's surrounded by the left and tugging toward the center/right. He's liberal but scolds the left virtually every week.
@@michaelsierra9 Maher is a Center-Right Wing commentator. He used to be Left, but he's moved way to the Right in recent years
Things really went sideways with the “participation trophy” generation. So happy to see Bill calling this out. But it’s going to take at least a generation to turn it around, if that’s even possible at this point.
Kids don't get a participation trophy and think it's an MVP trophy. They know everyone else got one just like theirs. It's just a keepsake to remind them of the experience. They all still know who played shortstop and batted leadoff and who was in right field and batted last.
The kids feel it most acutely ~ if you ever watch a game of anything where the adults aren't scoring, guaranteed every kid on that court or pitch knows it. They want us all to drown in a sea of mediocrity but it will take a hell of a lot longer than one or two generations. I think it will take Orwell's "boot on the throat forever", to keep us down.
As someone in that generation you really don't know wtf you're talking about. Yeah we all got trophies and we didn't care. Its not like we all grew up thinking we were the best because we got a small trophy. It was "season is over yay"
FYI, I don't know how old you are but Millennials are 25-40 right now so... take note of what gen you are when criticizing an entire generation.
I can turn it around by turning around the brats that were raised in the 90s and applying a switch to their backside.
Only one thing will turn it around, and it is now absolutely inevitable: Hard times make hard men. Only the hardest will be left after what's coming. The hardest times of human history are about to unfold. Far worse than the Holodomor.. Look that up, then multiply it by X1000...
Bill Maher makes so much sense.
The "the face that launched a 1000..." line is comedy gold sir!
When you give me the same number of Olympic gold medals as Usain Bolt, that's when systemic speedism is over and equality of outcomes is achieved.
"speedism" LOL can't stop laughing after reading this.
As an(other) Indian, I feel it has to do with some sort of systemic racism that we are not seeing equity at the Olympics yet. With 17% the population of the world, I demand one in every six athletics medals be given to India. I volunteer for the medal in leisurely walking in the hopes of ending this injustice.
@@rexsceleratorum1632 lol 🤣
maybe you should give Bolt a spelling bee or two.
@@zitools Imagine thinking you're owning me but actually proving my point. I'll easily beat Bolt in a fair spelling bee which is why equality of outcomes is a bad idea. Bolt will easily beat me in a fair race which is why equality of outcomes is a bad idea.
"The face that launched a thousand little shits.."
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
...and DNA...
Best seven minutes of my morning.
Oh Bill what you say is so true I want to cry.
'Entertainment industry is a meritocracy'
Best joke in the entire skit
Well spotted.
Lol exactly. If that were the case Bryce Dallas Howard would teach kindergarten and Sophia Coppola would sell turquoise jewelry.
Are you trying to tell me that Keanu Reeves isn't the world's foremost acting genius?
Entertainment industry is a monopoly..and one only get to the top if 1. Has the right color(non white preferred and if white must hate oneself or be on drugs)
2. Folows the anti white regimes agenda to the T
3. Will keep promoting the regimes wishes to take all our rights away while degenerating our cultures into oblivion
@@johnnyjohnson4152 Jesus Christ can you whine just a LITTLE harder??
I get Bill's point, but there is a lot of music that's really good that never goes mainstream. This is why I love streaming.
Well good is subjective. But its up to you to support them.
There are millions of great artists who billions of people would enjoy listening to, and the reason we don't isn't that they suck, it's all about organization of scale. Think about small cultures. Nobody else makes music or movies for them, they have to do it themselves. So for the 356 thousand people living in Iceland, enough of them have to make the music, tv shows, and movies to tell the culture's stories, because nobody else is going to do it. For America's 328 million people, guess what, approximately the same number of people are making our music, tv shows, and movies. Because it's about cultural attention span. We can only share so many stories before they become irrelevant, not common to enough people that we can expect to be able to talk to a stranger about it. Now maybe some of you have noticed this, but despite Iceland's miniscule population, their contribution to global culture is rather outsized. This is the effect of localizing culture. We cultivate and bring out more talent, which can then rise and spread across the international stage to those who are receptive. In essence, the RS article wasn't wrong, but the curve should have been in between a straight line and the current reality, if we want to maximize quality cultural output. In America, all the glory gets stolen buy a few, this is true. But our production isn't qualitatively that much better than Iceland's. Something to ponder.
Bill was wrong about this.
@@JR3714 LEVEL 42 have been around since the 80s! They're not that unheard of if you know even a tidbit of decent music.
@@JR3714 I don't.
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I was a music major. Making it is so complicated. There's a ton of ways to make good money performing, and not everyone is going to be the biggest pop star. That is very complicated too, you have to be a great performer, and a marketable product.
Its scary that Bill actually has to explain this to the world.
Musician is the most missused term in history...some guy who presses play is considered a musician, its like me drawing a line and being considered an architect.
Reminds me of movies. I watch old 90s movies over this crap they put out now and get more enjoyment watching reruns than new shit.
Sorry, there is so much wrong with your statement...Consider for starters, Musicians like say Mathematicians have been around for Centuries. Women, with their Singing, Don't press buttons. i'm done, your young even that could be construed as bias.
@@geraldo6205 lol are you drunk or liberal? He said musicians aren't worth a shit now and he's right.
@@cody1854 fu ok.. great musicians, still do exist...alas just fewer & fewer ?.
@@rockinrollinntrollin616 yup, the non mainstream ones lol
I self released my songs, don’t have any listeners but my mom likes them :)
Oh, Millhouse. “My mom thinks I’m cool!” Haha
Don't worry, I bet they are bangers 😎👍
I love my daughter's music. It's exquisite.
You do realize this is how most artists that you know and like now start off right
Did your mom make you a “ Grammy “ for it too?!🤩
Right, as if Bob Dylan would have ever passed an audition on American Idol.
"The face that launched a thousand little shits" 🤣🤣🤣
“....Paris Hilton is literally the face that launched a thousand little shits.”
*dead from laughing *
Can you explain the different layers?
What that mouth do
@@alexreiser6325 It's a play on Helen of Troy. "The face that launched a thousand ships"
@@alexreiser6325 It's from "The Odyssey." The face that launched a thousand ships. Paris is the name of the Prince who took Helen (Helena), Queen of Sparta, to Troy from Greece secretly. They sent an armada to retrieve her... The Trojan War... Achilles... The Trojan Horse... All-in-all, clever joke.
@@con3521 Illiad. The Odyssey was after the Trojan War.
“She’s the face that launched a thousand little shits” 😭🤣
More like a million $hits...LOL
@@elbarjones4812 ..........
it s a word play on "face that launched a thousand ships" of helen of troy
wow ...Bill....everything u said about Paris...so so right on !!! thank u ...100% supporting u !!!
@@sunritroykarmakar4406 I went to school when you had to read both the Iliad and the Odyssey...thanks anyway
Well said Bill
Same here in the UK, everyone’s a winner, regardless of effort, skill or enthusiasm. Whatever happened to “meritocracy”? Hey Bill, can I have an award for writing this, pleeeeeze? Love your stuff.
Born in ‘89, I can confirm that there multiple soccer trophies collecting dust in my basement for tournaments my team and I lost hard in as kids lol
Was just thinking the same thing! Spot on!
I have M.V.P trophies cause I legit conquor.
So throw them out. You're no longer a child. The point of sports for children is to encourage exercise for health and not to identify future professional athletes.
@@scottglover3478 You remind me of Al Bundy. What did you do with your life AFTER high school?
I threw all my participation trophies away and kept my 1st place trophies only 😂
Jordan Peterson was saying this 5 years ago.
Jordan Peterson also said that he drank apple cider once and almost died because of it
It wasn't new then either.
@@veitdalee4810 it's called being allergic.
Just made the same comment.
"Yes, these are called the good ones" -- I cracked up so bad!!! Too funny and true 🤣
in general, i agree with bill when it comes to musical talent. but there r many talented musical artists who will never get the recognition they deserve, who write & perform music that is much better than the mostly cookie cutter music u hear on the radio these days.
They don't deserve the recognition. Thats your mistake. Recognition is earned.
i cant stand radio because it's literally 10-15 songs paid to be on repeat by their record companies and i cant stand morning talk crap, I want music not some djs stupid game of he sits on his ass and knows so much about hollywood because he has no life beyond being a dj and ingesting hollywood bullshit
There is countless platforms to stream on. If you can’t get recognized, then oh well.
These days? You mean since the beginning of the radio?
I think the point that’s trying to be made is that the most popular music isn’t necessarily the best music. If popularity was the metric for quality, then Mc Donald’s might make the best burger in the world. It’s a matter of accessibility.
Sometimes I forget I’m watching bill Maher and not Ben Shapiro, the left has become so crazy that even he hates them and seems conservative haha
Thats the thing about the “woke” leftists. They say Maher is just the old man yelling at the cloud, or not a “true liberal”. They make the same No true Scotsman fallacy. You can be a liberal and a Democrat and call this shit out for what absurdity it is.
His stint in the beginning about music stream distribution is almost a direct corollary to the income inequality argument.
You cancel enough people they will eventually team up and cancel you
I’ve been thinking the same lately. I like watching Maur again like when I was 18.
Calling them out for doing something stupid isn't hating... also, how dafuq did that train of thought come up on this video?
I'm surprised he didn't mention BLUE ivy getting an award that most don't even achieve in a lifetime. It's not like her parents had anything to do with it!
Look, Bill REALLY wants to slander allegedly spoiled millennials and if you don't let him he gets cranky and warm milk won't help any more.
@X X honestly, I was starting to think it was just me.😅
@@Alias_Anybody yawn..... try again
👏👏👏👏👏👏 “but only the talented artists make it” oooook riiiiight Biiiiiill. You know everything about everything from every perspective.
@@corporateservants269 nope is not just you. Bill needs to get some friends to broaden his point of view. Or a research team. Whatever comes first.
Maher is simply a masterclass comedian at a genius level.
I remember back in highschool, i was given a participation trophy for a relay race because i came in 7th. I took it and smashed it to pieces. Got detention for that, said it promoted bad sportsmanship, but damn it was worth it
Well the trophy industry is worth a few billion... Of course they want schools to give everyone a trophy.
"Kylie Jenner is a billionaire based on her ability to sit near a pool for the generations who are always on and on about this is my voice and i have something to say an awful lot of that something is about lip gloss."
Bill ends it strong
Good Quote.
Can Bill possibly be the savior of the Party? I'm sure they'll find some way to permanently *CANCEL* him.
Ultimately, a false equivalency, between artists (musicians) and people being popular for being... popular (cult of celebrity). Bill is getting very lazy, very tired with this shtick. The nuance has been severely lacking the past few years, he's losing his mind a bit, me thinks.
I totally agree..,..
Plus Bill senses the winds of change and they don’t include him...,He is feeling his age
@@gmpm he's definitely getting to be more of a "get off my lawn" type
Change is inevitable....but stupidity takes concerted efforts
Thank you and well said.
Bill Maher for president! 😎👍🏻
Bill Maher being the voice of reason against his OWN party's ideology and thinking, is the epitome of irony.
I can't believe Maher is a fascist alt-right loon...
or do liberals just have the self-awareness to criticize their party more often than conservatives?
@@mukesh_bombay Unfortunately they don't. Or they do it in the wrong way and criticize each other because they aren't left leaning enough.
He’s always been this way. He may be liberal, but he’s the type to also call them out on their BS, just like he would with the other side. He seems to criticize anything that he feels needs criticizing regardless of political view or affiliation.
Bill Maher is a libertarian. If the Republicans legalized marijuana, he’d be 100% on board.
Today's music has nothing to do with talent, it's all about gimmickry.
And weird names. Would Bill Maher have a show with that hohum name. .? They get weirder and weirder. Music has a relationship with math. Could that be the problem? I dont listen to much of it. What would Perry Como be called now. PC2os2rs? Be a good boy Bill.
While I agree that music today is more than talent (personality matters too), that is the fault of music consumers, not producers. We the consumers have more music choices today than ever before. If consumers choose personality over talent, that is simply our choice and music producers will have to adapt to OUR needs. Not the other way around.
@@mosesking2923 Wtf are you talking about ?
I agree with you on popular music, I never watch these award shows, because I usually don’t care for any of the artists. I’m Dutch, and most of my favourite artists are all British: Elbow, Arctic Monkeys, Editors, Kasabian. They are massive in the U.K. but most people in the U.S. have never heard of them, maybe because they sound too British? We have two amazing bands in the Netherlands, De Staat and Dewolff, they are very popular in the alternative music scene, but most of the Dutch public has never heard of them, because it’s not what the average Joe listens to.
You’re right. Mainstream music is filth with auto tune. Their job is keeping their ass in good shape or maintaining an image that they’re “hard”
Maher, the water is warm baby. Repos love you!!!
"the face the launched a thousand little sh**s" !!! LMAO!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mahr's audience really makes me laugh. They literally laugh every time he goes into one of these diatribes. But the people he is talking about are the very people in his audience.
I love bill but his audience is the worst.
@@rightchordleadership He has this audience for a reason . Bill is one of the biggest grifters out there .
Isn’t his “audience” right now just his crew?
Right. Also, this shit would be funny if it weren't actually true. I don't know how people can laugh when it's all just so sad.
Having a sense of humor in life is priceless
The musicians that win the Grammy's are the best marketed, not the most talented. Justin Bieber's Yummy was nominated for a Grammy. If you think that's an effect of pure meritocracy, then you probably should listen to more music outside the top 10.
Yeah, I think he may have a good abstract point, but the example he chose is terrible.
I don't know about that, if you look at the winners many do actually deserve the awards because talent is oozing out of many of them. Beyonce, H.E.R, Billie Eilish, etc. Like alot of the musicians are amazing
Grammys suck... only popularity contest I would never watch. I heard that they didn’t even mention the passing of Chick Corea. Talent is not preeminent there. Bad reference of meritocracy Bill.
Absolutely true
@@danburnes722 I can’t say I agree. It deserves criticism make no mistake as it has issues but when your actually seeing musicians perform from all different genres it’s pretty damn good.
Not true, the best songs in the world will never be heard without marketing.
Thank you.
This is the most "get off my lawn" bill has ever been and i love it 🤣
It's because he got crucified by the SJW's when he dropped the n-bomb as part of his show. Since then he's been so dead set against the uber-liberals just as much as he always has the conservatives.
Why do you love it? The "get off my lawn" mentality has never done anything good
@@117Chief930 That's crap, he's always been against political correctness, he hasn't changed. What changed is that political correctness had always been a conservative thing and all of a sudden it became a liberal thing.
@@doctorfeinstone6524 You think you have the right to trample my lawn.
Yeah now it’s just mostly for laughs, sadly his arguments are getting less and less sound, since he is the one that now feels personally hurt that the liberal mentality is not catering to him and his demographic is getting smaller and older.
The French psychiatrist Jacques Lacan warned way back in the 50's about an upcoming world where everyone wanted to be famous for no reason.
Self esteem without the work of working on self? Who would have thought people would take shortcuts in life.
its strange he isn't more famous himself. he was right.
Anymore Bill is arguing on behalf of conservatives. He should start voting his interests, and be a part of the Right side of history.
He was probably mostly afraid of competition, as he was a great example of being famous for no reason himself. His books full of random nonsense like "male genitals are the square root of minus one". Today he'd have a youtube channel and a huge instagram followership.
@@justifiably_stupid4998 Well, I think it's not just that but also the simple fact that a lot of people have no clue how to value themselves and think of themselves as worthless unless they have something to show for like a degree or a Grammy award, emphasized by people like most conservatives who think everyone who isn't succesful financially, has a degree, or is famous is a loser. People who are brought up valuing actual behaviour and results in a healthy way don't seem to have these issues. Also, those people in this last group tend to have less conservative and superficial friends and are better in judging people's value and character.
Equal rights is about equality before the law. Equal outcomes is about equality after the law.
I totally agree with Bill’s overall concept here- “You can never have ‘Equality of Outcomes.’” But he is completely wrong about the details. The gatekeepers have not been “eliminated.” And every artist doesn’t get a fair listen from just “being on Spotify.” It’s a bit more complicated than that.
Equality of outcome..... means "Then why bother to try?"; "Why Study?"; "Why practice?"; "Why do any job?"