Watchin' Baseball | 1975 World Series Game 7
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After a quick wiki search: Bob Montgomery was actually the last guy in the Majors to not wear a helmet and would pad the inside of his cap instead
Adam Cox whaaaa? Kudos to doing the research
If it were today, they'd get a OBP guy to pinch hit before Yaz. Bob destroyed the inning for them by swinging at the first pitch.
Yeah, because helmets are for pussies, but pads aren't.
bro, baseball is weird
He was a God awful color Commentator.
Jake: we’re not old, ok?
Also Jake: [spot-on Johnny Carson impression]
That surprised me too.
I bet that was a Dana-Carvey-doing-Johnny-Carson impression.
Bob didnt give any f's. Total badass, walks up with all the confidence in the world, no helmet, swings at the first pitch. My kinda guy.
You guys were talking about Joe Morgan like he was just a pretty good player. I know you know he's a HOFer, but he was the NL MVP in 1975 AND 1976. Joe Morgan was not only a great player, but also a great team leader. That's why everyone thought he'd someday be a manager. Anyway, those Reds teams of the mid-70s, even with all their stars, were MORGAN's teams. And, yes, he was a terrible announcer.
The big red machine!
Dude relax
He is deep in the argument as greatest 2nd baseman of all time,, no doubt
18:07 they said easier 20:30 and he was hitting .230
Batting helmets weren't mandatory across MLB until the 1971 season and even then I think players who debuted before that were grandfathered and didn't have to wear one.
Bob Montgomery is specifically known as the last player to refuse to wear a helmet! He played until 1979.
Ya, Pete was notorious for that aggressive slide!!
just found a biography for jim burton
"Pitching in the low minors with guys who would never even have a sniff of the majors, Burton stood out - he was the guy who gave up the World Series-winning hit to Joe Morgan. Burton recalled warming up on the mound in Salem, Virginia, while the public-address announcer gave the crowd that day’s trivia question, “What pitcher in uniform tonight lost the seventh game of the 1975 World Series?”
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I SO hated the Reds, because they beat my Dodgers. Now, at 55, I really appreciate the incredible amount of talent on that team.
But I’m still a diehard Dodger fan.
I really enjoy this format @jomboy!
Me too! Big time Dodgers fan. I always had respect for the Reds. 1975 Reds team is legendary. Big battles in the 70's between the Big Red Machine vs The Big Blue Wreckin' Crew!!!!
I remember watching those playoff games . I was an Expos fan but loved watching the Dodgers and Reds games. Reds were a little better but it was close . You guys definitely had the pitching. Great memories
We will have so much of these type of uploads until opening day in October.
Started watching and following the Reds religiously in the mid 90s. 1975 WS was one of the greatest ever. Big Red Machine in the mid 70s is THE greatest Major League Baseball team of all time.
I agree , the 1975 world series was the best ever 👍👍
Guys. Thank you SO much for all of the content. It’s been filling a major void for me being able to watch sports along with you. Cheers!
Clay Carroll, "the Hawk", Tony Perez "Doggie", Pete Rose "Charlie Hustle" this was my childhood. One of my favorite facts about Pete, he was an All Star at 5 different positions if I remember correctly. (2nd, RF, LF, 3rd & 1st) & guys don't want to change now, Pete just wanted to play !
Darrell Johnson was in his second year managing the Red Sox, he would get fired the following year while the team was 41-45. He ended up in Seattle, then Texas, managing only 5 more years in MLB. He never had another winning season after 1975.
Jim Rice was hit by a Vern Ruhle fast ball of Detroit late in September on the wrist.
As a 75 RS fan, we were screaming at Darrell Johnson to put in Louis Tiante instead of Burton.
Pass Ball Bob Montgomery was only put in for nostalgic reasons by the Manager.
Tiant had just pitched 6 or 7 innings the night before, so they weren't gonna go to him. I'm not sure who they could have used instead of Burton; maybe Dick Drago. Boston, according to the book "50 Greatest Reds Moments", didn't have many good options at that point.
Suggestion: 1965 WS game 7 is on youtube
Also, I would definitely not mind a Jomboy recap of the totally boring, non-controversial game between KC and the Yanks on July 24, 1983
“A dog takes a sh*t”; a breakdown starting at 26:12
The Joe Morgan twitch was called the chicken wing. It's how he timed pitches.
You should start a series watching old episodes of This Week in Baseball.
This is the first World Series I watched and I fell in love with baseball for life!
Same Here Frank! What a great "first" world series for us!
Great Stuff fellas!! Im diggin this old Big Red Machine footage! Being born and raised in Cincy and on Baseball
With the lack of baseball, now would be a GREAT chance for Jake to do some cool OOTP stuff
I honestly thought Jomboy was in his mid 40s, I can't believe he's only 30 wtf lol
Ouch
"why aren't they doing the math?" -- I'd prefer the 8 for 28. It means more to me to know out of how many at bats. If you tell me someone is hitting .800 and someone else is hitting .280, but the first guy has only 4 at bats (vs 28 AB) the average hides that.
thats why it would be both. not just one or the other. so: Yaz (10 for 25) (.400) or something like that
I recently read Big Red, Griffey Sr's book. It gave a lot of insight into the big red machine. Pretty good easy read, if you're ever interested
After the 75 series I remembering telling my friends we were cursed because we traded Ruth. I should have copyrighted it, because a few years later (after 86) Monahan writes his book and gets all the credit.
I'd love to see a Japan Series Game.
Any year, just to see the chaos that insues
@THE BRAIN SPECIALIST I am actually okay with Japan Baseball but I bet TH-cam will not appreciate it LOL but I think it would work
KBO bat flip breakdowns
Or even Japan vs MLB game. I saw one where the ump gave Kasuhiro Sasaki a giant strike zone and Griffey was livid... in an exhibition!
@@parkerthebyleththomas70581991 🇯🇵 Nippon Series...Hiroshima Carp VS Seibu Lions. GAME 4 ....th-cam.com/video/JQ8bsqcZwnI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QlayclfVmILG0Hij
Cut the pitcher some slack. Lite beer was just introduced that year.
Denny Doyle was a scrappy batter like his brother. He was traded from Angels midseason and was the spark plug that won the pennant.
Lol, you guys talkin bout Pete’s hair and miss the fact he is hitting .370 in the series.. good stuff.
Y’all gotta stop doing this. I really need to get a life and these are just too entertaining to not just put everything I’m doing down and watch
Game 6 of the 1975 series is widely considered one of the greatest World Series games of all time. Why not do that one?
Garrett Pratt only doing what they can find on TH-cam I think
@@1gochisox The entire game is on TH-cam. I think most people know game 6 so maybe this was a better idea.
2:05 Note how dismissive they look. They didn't watch it because they have zero interest in watching the Red Sox celebrate.
@@justinman114 these guys are obviously completely clueless when it comes to baseball pre 90s I doubt they thought it through or even know how legendary game 6 was.
@@jeffallen55 hey r-word, they did full episodes on the Sox winning in 2004, 2007, 2013, and 2018. What's up with your shitty attitude?
The Big Red Machine in their prime. Them and the A's were the teams of the 70's. They were loaded.
Freak ground ball hitting the seam in the astroturf at a 2 yr. old Riverfront Stadium at 3rd base that bounced high over his head of Dennis Menke at 3rd base hadn't happened then the A's wouldn't have won the WS and Cincinnati would have got to celebrate on their home field instead of going to game 7 in Oakland. 75 Fenway 76 Yankee Stadium 90 Oakland Coliseum. Wished Cincinnati fans could have celebrated a WS on their home field.
The Pittsburgh Pirates were terrific in the '70s as well, as two World Series Championships in that decade will attest (1971, 1979). They were known as "The Pittsburgh Lumber Company". They had the likes of Roberto Clemente (1971), as well as Dave Parker (1979), Willie Stargell, Manny Sanguillen, Kent Tekulve, and other great players.
These have been much needed. Thank you guys!
Gotta do one with Plouffe. His prospective would be great. He might know some of the old guys, too.
87 and 91 with Plouffe
at some point y’all need to do game 7 of the 1992 NLCS. easily on the short list of the greatest games and wildest finishes in baseball history. sid the GOAT
I love this series Jomboy!
The "Curse of the Bambino" thing started after 1986 I believe. Dan Shaugnessy wrote a book in 1990 that first advanced the theory. In reality, Harry Frazee selling off Ruth and most everyone else from his early championship teams and then the Sox being the last to integrate was more likely the biggest contributing factors.
Cecil Cooper was in the lineup because rookie left fielder, Jim Rice, broke his arm in the final weeks of the season. Both Rice and fellow rookie, center fielder Fred Lynn, were in the running for rookie of the year in 1975, which went to Lynn. Lynn and Rice also finished 1 and 3 respectively in AL MVP voting. I believe that Fred Lynn was the first, possibly only, player in MLB history to win both Rookie of the year AND MVP?
Funny as hell watching you 2 watching what I grew up with. If you really want some drama, watch Game 6. One of the best games in WS history
Human interest story: 1975 Reds at San Diego BP. Johnny bench laces a line drive into the shin of a young boy in the first row on the left field line. It sounded like a dropped melon hitting the concrete. That boy was hurt. After a bit, Dave Conception walked over with a ball to check on the kid,and gave him the ball. That kindness always stuck with me.
He won’t do 76. The reds swept the yanks
That's the one where Sparky threw shade vs Munson, where he said he doesn't compare to Bench
That’s the same reason why he didn’t do game 6 of this series. The Sox won the game
Update. He did 76 lol
Statutory Grape In hindsight Sparky was right. Johnny Bench is easily the greatest catcher of all time.
@@KTF0 What Sparky said was when he was asked by the NY reporter about comparing Munson to Bench. He said "don't want to embarass Munson by comparing him to Johnny Bench." AND Sparky was right AGAIN.👍
The Spaceman threw some awesome stuff.
Love the show. Because I'm old I know all of these guys but you two are cool and funny. Keep up the good work.
i was living off the fact jomboy is older than me and i find out hes 3 years younger and now im upset
It kind of jarred me as well. We’re getting old my dude.
Denny Doyle was the older brother of Brian Doyle. The NY 2B in the 1980 NYY-LAD.
the helmet rule was enacted in 1971.
players not using helmets who were in the majors prior to the rule were grandfathered.
All I remember is Fisk walked off in game 6, people seem to forget the big red machine still won it all
"1 for 18 I don't need to do the math there" Lol
24:58 haha. definitely using that to describe me gut in the future
Sparky brought the lefty batter in vs the lefty pitcher because he wanted him to pull the ball to the right side of the infield to move the runner to third base, then you have the big three of Rose, Morgan, Bench, pretty sound old school baseball strategy
EDIT: Plus it worked. Rose walk, Morgan bloop single, run score and the Reds are up in the ninth.
No, he wanted Burton to stay in!
Playing historical leagues in 'Out of the Park Baseball' (OOTP) is how I learned about past players/teams. I even know a lot about 19th century players thanks to that game.
In the 70's it was "Strat-O-Matic." I just Googled that and apparently that's still a thing.
You have probably already seen this by now, but according to Wikipedia article on batting helmets, Bob Montgomery was actually the last player to bat without wearing a batting helmet. He didn't retire until 1979. This was allowed because the league grandfathered the rule change.
Twitter followers are one thing, baseball knowledge is another
Jim Burton was a guy who always struggled with his control in the high minors, but mastered it briefly there in 74 and 75 and got his shot.
After this game, he had a terrible spring training the following year, and never got his control back. Might just have been he was never that good, or that the postseason experience broke him a little like it would with Tom Niedenfuer a decade later. He wasn't some phenom - the Sox had him pegged as maybe a back of the rotation guy or potential middle reliever so maybe it was some idea with the matchup that had him on the mound in that situation. Also wasn't game 6 extra innings? Maybe everyone else on the staff was fried.
On his appearance he said it was cold and he hadn't been able to get loose. He was happy with his pitch to Morgan, it would have gotten nearly anyone else out. Morgan himself said it was 'wicked'. Makes you wonder how things would have gone for him later on had he retired Morgan.
The distraction of the dog taking a shit is something I would notice as well while everyone else is watching the game, yelling at me to shut up about the dog taking a shit. hahaha.
Fans rushing the field was extremely annoying
This was the first World Series I ever watched. I was 6 years old.
my first too I was 12
Me too: 9
mine as well, I was 7. My first baseball memory is Luis Tiant's crazy delivery.
YES THE 1975 WORLD SERIES BABBBYYYY!!!, 1975 Baseball was a special time for Cincinnati, Ohio so I can tell you about the Reds: Pete Rose, Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan & Tony Perez, THE MAIN FOUR HEROES OF CINCINNATI REDS HISTORY during the 70s and 80s, While Red Sox is Carlton Fisk, Fred Lynn & Jim Rice which are 3 very good players at the time, so this World Series was a special time for both cities. However, Boston Red Sox still had the Curse of the Bambino at this time before this World Series (which was ended in 2004, which was my favorite baseball moment including the Chicago Cubs ending their curse as well in 2016, including for Philadelphia Philles at 2008, which was also a moment I loved as a kid) so I had tons of fun in my life as a baseball fan and I still love baseball ⚾⚾
The Hurricane Jr./Sr. For the Big Red Machine, you omitted these stalwarts: Dave Concepcion, Ken Griffey Sr; For the Red Sox: Luis Tiant, Dwight Evans. At that time, I was a grad student, living one block from Fenway Park. The atmosphere was electric!
@@chatman2a Thanks for explaining more about that, but I did watch this game in my own time and boy as a Reds Fan and me watching this boy it gave me chills, excitement and man it was a great moment to watch as a Reds Fan. But also I did watch my favorite World Series game 6 Mets vs Red Sox 1986, I watched the roller around first and man it gave me chills as well. Man watching the World Series is exciting to me tbh
Braves fan here. I remember a balk off win against the Mets, can't remember the year but I know Heyward was the batter. Jason was waving the guy home. On a balk. Whole game was strange, probably 10 years ago or so
The Denny Doyle thing was even worse than it sounded. He'd hit .310 in the regular season, his best year.
In game 6, he was thrown out at home in what would have been the winning run for the Red Sox at the time, it was a suicidal attempt, no chance of making it. But the 3rd base coach threw him under the bus:
"However, the play, in both execution and final result, was deemed suicidal, and after the contest was over, Doyle was pestered with the proverbial question asked of all losers (even those bound up in the winning cause that was Game Six): Why?
Third base Don Zimmer had said "Go!", Doyle patiently explained. Disingenuously, Zimmer -- who would wind up in the Red Sox Nation's doghouse for helming two superb teams in 1977 and '78 and bringing them in second-best to the hated New York Yankees -- explained that he had said "No!" to Doyle, who he felt was chomping at the bit. But for that play, Game Six would not be remembered for what it was: The greatest game ever played in post-season competition. And for that, we have keystone sacker Denny Doyle to be thankful for, and perhaps also Red Sox Nation villain Don Zimmer, for issuing the command Doyle either misunderstood or didn't on that cold October night-night so long ago."
So it might have partly been that he was in the doghouse for that controversy. There's no other explanation.
Morgan won MVP this year 😂
This is amazing. Please post a ton more of this.
condolences to denny doyles family for not being able to get that at bat in the 9th, like jomboy said that shit was criminal .
Mid to late eighties I used to go to Mike Andrews baseball camp every summer at Brandeis university in Waltham ma. Rico petrocelli came each year to help out
I was in Florida playing in the Roy Hobbs World Series, I think in 1997 & we were watching ESPN Classic. They were showing Game 6 of the 1975 Series, I saw that Fisk homerun & it hurt almost as much then as it did in 1975 when I was watching at home with my Dad ! Even though I knew how the series ended up, it still was a soul crusher :) Man, baseball can give you some of the best highs & lows, but great memories all the same. Dad died in 2002, but I will always have that memory :)
Great banter
Astros fan here and as I am sure you have had a lot of shit from our people I wanted to say your breakdowns are still A plus and this series of videos has been cracking me up so good shit man. even though i connect my sadness of the cheating to you for obvious reasons I still like your shit. Keep these coming!
I love your play by play guys, and your appreciation of the funkiness that is 1970s baseball.
Instead of Jim Burton, are you sure you aren't thinking of Ball Four author and former Yankee pitcher Jim Bouton?
That's what I thought he was thinking of.
I have that same 1990s Lion King souvenir cup from Burger King. I had a lot of respect for Jomboy before, but now it's just through the roof!
He used to identify himself as a Disney cup collector on Twitter
Montgomery's hat actually did have hard plastic underneath but no padding other than the headband.
Okay I feel that MLB should bring back the classic design of the Commissioner's trophy with the baseball, ring and crown on top.
Please don't let the negative comments keep you making more of these. I am enjoying these thoroughly!
1991 Game Six or Seven World Series are both great other options if you haven’t done them yet
Then in 76 reds sweep the Yankees
When it came to equipment rules, when one came into play, specifically helmets, players were grandfathered from using new rules.
Thanks for these guys.
I have a hunch that the Red Sox fans aren't going to be too happy about this and call you biased though.
Jomboy yawning and watching a dog taking a shit. Making me yawn! Lol
I love these. I grew up watching or reading baseball in the sports page and collecting baseball cards in the 90s. Seeing these games from the 70s is awesome. I would like to see some from the 80s too.
First World Series with no fans on the field after winning it all, I believe it was Phillies vs Royals, 1980.
I literally watched game 6 in full yesterday for the fisk homer. You should watch that one instead. Tiant making the Big Red Machine look silly, Carbo clutch homer, Fisk walk off bomb.
The greatest team to ever play. The 75 Reds.
I was born 77 in Columbus, Ohio and have been watching mlb since 84.
I know your young, it's all good. At least you look up shit. I'm 43 and I like your funny comments. I'm not here for historic commentary.
You guys are great! 👍
Get off of your phone Jomboy! Jake, you cool. Enjoyed it.
4:10 Cesar Geronimo's first name is pronounced "Say-zar" 🙂
Hey, don't worry about not knowing the players of yesteryear. I wouldn't recognize players from before the late 1960s, either, so it's all good.
should do more BIG series moments
Mazeroski's walk-off homer (Game 7 in 1960)
Don Larsen's perfect game (Game 5 in 1956)
Kirk Gibson's walk-off homer (Game 1 in 1988)
Carlton Fisk's game-winning homer (Game 6 in 1975)
Reggie Jackson's 3 hr game (Game 6 in 1977)
Buckner's error (Game 6 in 1986)
Joe Carter's walk-off homer (Game 6 in 1993)
Billy Martin's catch (Game 7 in 1952)
Pete Rose and his Creedence fucking Clearwater John Fogerty haircut.
I'm not 100% sure but I think they started calling The Curse after the Buckner error in 86.
Norm Cash on the Detroit Tigers didn't wear a helmet either. He retired in 74. This dude was probably the last to not wear a helmet.
Tony Perez is a god
I think 1980 was the first time they really cracked down on fans charging the field. There were mounted police lining the field. Read Jim Burton’s bio on Sabr.org. It’ll give you some insight on his experience in the World Series.
BIG RED MACHINE BOIIII
Edit: your right i was annoyed but thats alright bub
What happened with Jim Burton is not a deep mystery. "He only played one game after this!?"
Yeah. He played one game in *1977*. He didn't play at ALL in 1976. Obviously, he had a serious injury. He tried a comeback in 1977 and it didn't work out.
Great Concept! Really appreciate these baseball history dives. Keep up the great work!
love the reds content lately!
Speaking of fans storming onto the field, you gotta do the Series ('77 or '78) with Reggie Jackson weaving through the fans like a linebacker (and bowling over one of them) on his mad rush to the dugout.
Please, never stop doing these. These are amazing.
These have been fantastic! Getting me through the quarantine, please keep making these.
My boyhood hero Carl Yastrzemski made the final out in this game and the final out to end the 1978 single game playoff game to lose to the Yankees. I cried both times.