I assume that you know this but pro one filters are only NSF 42 certified and do not claim to be NSF 53 certified. The key difference between NSF certification for water standard 42 and 53 is that standard 42 focuses on aesthetic impurities like taste and odor (mainly chlorine), while standard 53 focuses on contaminants that can pose a health risk, such as lead and other heavy metals; essentially, 42 is for how water looks and tastes, while 53 is for its potential health effects. Consequently this video is providing some misinformation to viewers that could potentially be harmful to them particularly when you’re using NSF 42 filters on river water giving people the impression that these filters can handle river water, which is not true.
@@randysmith3990 Thanks for your comment, but the video is not providing misinformation. At the time this video was recorded, ProOne was claiming their filters could be used to remove bacteria, parasites and other microorganisms from untreated surface water sources. It looks like they've since removed those claims from their website (most likely because they saw what happened to Berkey). They still show testing data for bacteria, parasites, and other microbiological contaminants found in untreated water though....prooneusa.com/proone-lab-report/ It should also be noted that ProOne filters are only _partially_ certified to NSF/ANSI 42 for _materials requirements only_ unfortunately some manufacturers mislead consumers like this in order to sell their products. I've discussed this in detail in this video th-cam.com/video/pOOvhhrYlpw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=iAiU6XFQpgPGL_J-&t=391 Anyway, ceramic filters are one of the oldest methods for addressing pathogens in water. That said, ProOne should get certified for performance.
It depends. There is no 'one size fits all' solution. It all depends on what contaminants are in the source water being filtered. Have you had the water tested? Do you know what contaminants you are dealing with?
Thanks for the review. I will have to listen to this again and take notes. I see now why it takes you awhile to do a review. Very much appreciated. Will probably get my own sample done as city water varies greatly from varied locations. Keep up the good work.
We just bought one during their annual -25% off holiday sale on gravity units. Love 100% removal of fluoride, chlorine, bacteria + more. Great assembly instructions + customer service.The Traveller+ unit holds 2 gallons less 2 cups of water, with two 7 inch filters in it. To start, run about 4 or 5 batches through it, the filters will gradually hydrate + allow more water through. It takes about 2 1/2 hours (maybe less) to run about 2 gallons through it.
Thanks bro, you're a life saver. I'm hoping the disinfectant byproducts were a fluke. The water from these filters tastes great and I'm glad they actually eliminate the Fluoride (unlike the AlexaPure I was using before). I already bought a year supply of these so I'm glad they'll do the job in an emergency (just in case).
I have been looking for someone who actually went through the effort to testing the water. I feel a lot of other videos were made just to get you to use their link. The comparison chart you did was really helpful.
I had ordered a Berkey then read that it’s not meant for use with water softeners from well water but this ProOne should be ok. Do you know if this is the case before I order one? Thank you!!
It depends on what contaminants are in the well water. The ProOne ceramic filters will physically filter microbiological contaminants that are larger than the filter's pores, which Berkey carbon filters are unable to do. That said, proper disinfection is always recommended for raw water that may be contaminated with pathogens. The pro one filters may or may not be sufficient for addressing other contaminants like dissolved organics, inorganics and metals.
Great video. Thank you for doing this. I’m a bit disappointed, I was hoping that the ProOne filter would fill my need, but your data shows that it doesn’t. I have city water with high chlorine and high fluoride and I’m looking for a gravity filter option that can eliminate both. I had a Berkey with fluoride filters but one of your other videos demonstrated that the fluoride filters for the Berkey were ADDING aluminum to the water. I’m at a loss right now.
@@dad2princesses896 It was the 100 gal of water that had to go through it to clear it. My gosh can we trust anything? Or is that saying something is better than nothing? It is so confusing.
We have horrible city water with a biofilm problem. The biofilm grows in our pro one filters. Our filtered water tastes just like our unfiltered water. I was cleaning the filter every day and it was not helping. I added colloidal silver to the water pre-filter and that helped the taste greatly. I can’t keep doing that. I will have to find a better filter.
I really would think another round of testing would have been done before publishing results. It takes time and money but you have no idea for sure why till then. From my experience, I would not buy from Pro One again. we bought them years ago. then bought them again. this time I tested with blue dye. at least one of 4 filters allowed blue dye through. Customer service was kinda sketchy and basically seemed that some amount of blue dye was ok. Dye particles are larger than all the things we are concerned about. So if dye is coming through, what else also is. Finally they agreed to a full refund and not an exchange. Pro One is getting their filters manufactured by a third party in the UK though that may have changed.
Yeah I tried ordering from them a year or two ago but the one we wanted was on backorder. I signed up for email when back in stock and instead of sending just one, they sent dozens. Over the course of 2 hours I lost count how many I'd gotten, just minutes (or even seconds) apart. I tried fixing it but their customer service was garbage. I reported as many as I could as spam and never looked back. It's a shame, because it sounded so promising.
I've got this project scheduled and prioritized! Make sure you're subscribed so you get notified when I upload the video www.youtube.com/@waterfilterguru?sub_confirmation=1
Though I don't have a video yet, I do have an article comparing the gravity filters I've tested: waterfilterguru.com/best-gravity-water-filter/ British Berkefeld is in the works!
Thank you. I have a ProOne Counter top for 5 years. Last year is the first time I was unable to find water filters for the ProOne. Do you have any clue if this company is still doing business. I decided to purchase the Clearly Filtered an am happy with it. I have been using it since October as I was unable to purchase the ProOne filters. So thank you for the review on Clearly Filtered. Now which water countertop would be as good or better than ProOne. Thank you for all your reviews. They help us a lot.
@@waterfilterguru I appreciate your response but the filters are nowhere to be found. I usually order from their site, but they have been out of stock since forever. None of my calls are returned as well. Thank you anyway may have to research on what to purchase to replace my ProOne.
Great review! I'm looking for a gravity fed system to have on hand for emergency preparedness. Do you recommend the ProOne or AlexaPure as best for this purpose? Thanks!
Hi thanks for reviewing the gravity filters! With the Pro one filters not filtering phosphorous is it safe to use them for 70 foot deep untreated well water near small farming cornfeilds?
I just responded to a couple of your other comments - apologies for the delay. Without knowing exactly what contaminants are present, its hard to say whether or not the ProOne would be sufficient. As a first step, I highly recommend lab testing your well water to get a complete, full understanding of the water issues at hand. I recommend and use Tap Score for lab testing - hands down the best I've come accross, check it out bit.ly/3kJcnnp
So what are the better choices that clear disinfection by-products from tap water? I have choramines in my water. I am in Toronto, Canada so I have ALL the crap in my water including fluoride. What would you recommend? Thank you
I'd recommend a countertop reverse osmosis system, rather than gravity-fed system. RO provides much more thorough contaminant reduction. Check out the Aquatru geni.us/chlQv5o
@@waterfilterguru Thank you. I will look into that. What about Clearly Filtered? It seems to be removing everything and I prefer "simpler" methods if possible. Not that crazy about destillers or RO unless absolutely necessary. Regarding RO I believe that there are certain things that it does not remove like volatiles, pharmaceuticals etc.
While neither of these contaminants were analyzed in our initial test, we can make a couple assumptions: 1) Activated carbon is currently one of the best methods to address PFAs in residential applications, and AC is one component of the media in these filters. We can extrapolate that they will reduce some % of PFAs. 2) Ceramic media can block suspended particles down to 0.5 microns in size. Microplastics can range from 1 -5,000 microns in size. So the ceramic media should be capable of reducing a large % of microplastics present. However if there are nanoplastics smaller than 0.5 microns, some might get through
Hi, thanks for your water filter information you said in your video if you want to treat or filter town water there might be a better option than the pro one. Can you advise where to go we have tapwater here and we want to run it through gravity fed filter with the best results. One of our biggest biggest issue is fluoride. Thanks Marc
I know you said you're looking for gravity filters, but I'd hands down recommend a countertop RO system like the Aquatru geni.us/chlQv5o over any gravity system for overall superior contaminant reduction. Otherwise, the Clearly Filtered pitcher geni.us/VsUZHW1 and the Waterdrop King Tank waterdropus.pxf.io/ZQ3Kqg gravity systems did well with fluoride in our testing
So are there any recommendations for filters that do remove the disinfection by-products? As I do have a pro one filter But if there's something that works better I would love to get some suggestions so I can look into them further Thanks!😊
The Waterdrop King Tank filters performed well in our testing waterdropus.pxf.io/m53ze7 however we've not tested compatibility between the two system tanks
so... for filtering city water... which one do you think is best on a cost/benefit analysis? and for filtering "boil water advisory" or random stream water, which one would you suggest?
Depends, what contaminants are present that need to be addressed? For city water, I tend to lean towards reverse osmosis, because these systems target the most broad range of contaminants. To be prepared for a boil water advisory or filtering untreated surface water, the ProOne or another system with ceramic filters would be a good choice.
Another great lab test video thank you so much. do you have a video showing your number one recommended gravity fed filter I would 100% watch and appreciate it. Thank you so much.
Waterdrop King Tank performed the best with city water, and overall in our scoring system geni.us/M8bSq however the ProOne would be best for emergency preparedness or filtering untreated surface water geni.us/0T5W8 I've got Aquacera on my list for the next time I do a round of gravity filter testing!
Neither of those were included in our test, so I don't have any firsthand data for you. That said, the ceramic filter should reduce microplastics larger than the pore size, but smaller particles could slip through. The activated carbon media within should be able to reduce PFAs.
Thank you for your excellent videos. Do you have more information about what kind of filter media they use to filter out fluoride. Just called the company and representative Jeanny told me they use aluminum media for that, but on proone website they claim not to use aluminum or alumina in their filters. After watching your video I wanted to buy one,but do not want to buy it with alumina, even though you showed it filters aluminum from water. Do you have any idea what they might use for it. Thanks
Hi,, I'm not sure what media they use for fluoride reduction - either activated alumina (aluminum oxide) or bone char carbon. It should be noted that activated alumina media is one of the most common methods for fluoride reduction, especially in gravity-fed applications as efficacy is directly correlated with contact time. If used properly, it shouldn't leach into the filtered water.
Thank you for the review of the ProOne have you done one with the ProOne undermount sink? We have one and we tested the water itbran a 156 ppn red zone.
We have not yet tested any of their under sink filters. Keep in mind, TDS reading alone doesn't tell you if water is healthy or not, and doesn't measure all possible contaminants in the water. Check out this video th-cam.com/video/yHvdYWXiVzI/w-d-xo.html
@waterfilterguru no I haven't had it checked. I was concerned because we have the proone but it still read Red. So did the bathroom with no filter. I'm very confused on all of this.
@@friends791 That ProOne filter is probably not capable of reducing TDS, so this would be an expected result. Check out this video, it might help you th-cam.com/video/JU4sPer1944/w-d-xo.html
In most cases yes, RO systems with remineralization will provide more broad contaminant reduction that gravity-fed systems. This is due to the RO process as well as multiple filter media used in the system.
Thanks for the review; so, what would you recommend as an alternative option to ProOne. I have a Berkey system which I'm looking for the best filter compatible with (preferably removing fluoride).
Do their gravity filters remove rust? Cant seem to find it or may have missed it. If not, do you have any recommendations? Got rust in the well water and would love a gravity system as a nice back up
Yes ceramic filters should be able to reduce rust. Since rust (oxidized iron) is a suspended particle in the water, it will be physically blocked and removed by the small pores in the ceramic filter.
@@waterfilterguru What ceramic filters do you recommend just for overall good tasting well water? Getting exhausted doing hours of research and rabbit holes that some filters may "leach aluminum" or that the Pro one I see is only "component certification"?. Thank you very much for reply.
@@YardPrep00 Ceramic filters alone won't necessarily improve the taste of water. The most effective method to improve taste is to filter with an activated carbon filter. Are you the owner of the well? When was your well last tested by a certified lab? What contaminants/ water issues need to be addressed besides ferric (oxidized) iron?
@@waterfilterguru Yes, out on an acreage. Water is fine just traces of rust in the water. Looking for a good gravity filter setup basically incase of SHTF
Gotha. I'd go for the ProOne then - just make sure to also have a method of disinfection prepared as well. On that note, did you see my recent video about emergency SHTF water prep? th-cam.com/video/Btqqwd_cLiA/w-d-xo.html
Both these and the Water drop King Tank fluoride filters completely eliminated fluoride in our testing. Berkey had an issue in our first test, but worked better and completely eliminated fluoride in our second test. We did not test filter compatibility between units
Hey Brian, thanks for the video. Wonder if you can help with a couple of questions - Is the white outer part of the filter made of ceramic? And is the blue bottom part of the filter also made of ceramic or is that plastic? Also the black thread and nut at the bottom of the filters looks like plastic, it is that correct?
These are great questions! Yes, the white outer shell of the filter is ceramic. The blue bottom bracket is plastic. The threads and nuts are also plastic.
@@ashleypeeler7313 I would like to know as well please. @waterfilterguru You also had mentioned above that their might be better options for treated city water? Thank you!
@@waterfilterguru Might be time for a recap since you have covered all the popular ones with a side by side comparison that summarizes all these videos?
Would you recommend this type of filter for the filtration of well water? I am planning to move into a fully off grid situation with no electricity (i.e. grid, solar, wind or hydro) or propane power, so I need a filter that doesn't rely on a power source.
It all depends on what contaminants are present in the well water. This system may or may not be sufficient to filter the water for drinking. Have you had the well tested yet?
I don't. We saw barium reduced with the other 3 filters we tested at the same time, with the same water sample. This could suggest the increased concentration post-filtration in this test was coming from the unit itself. More testing would of course be needed to verify and determine if this is a pervasive issue
Thank you so much for doing this lab test! I would particularly love to see a side-by-side independent lab test comparison that you have conducted for the ProOne Water filter pitcher & the Clearly Filtered water pitcher. Also, the plastic water filter pitcher may yield different results than the large metal containers. Thank you!
Thanks for your suggestion, we may be able to do this in a future project. That said, the filter element used in the ProOne pitcher is exactly the same as those used in the stainless steel units - the only difference being size.
@@adrianan3616 In that case I wouldn't even recommend a gravity-fed system. Get a reverse osmosis system with remineralization filter, like the Aquatru geni.us/chlQv5o
Excellent review- I was debating between the ProOne and the Epic pitchers. Does the ProOne pitcher perform as well as the counter top that you used in your tests?
It depends. There is no 'one size fits all' solution. It all depends on what contaminants are in the source water being filtered. What is the application? What type of water are you trying to filter? Have you had it tested? Do you know what contaminants you are dealing with (in addition to pharmaceuticals and ferric iron aka rust)? What type of system (POU vs POE) are you looking for?
@@mrsupchurch2987 If you are referring to our Alexapure test, then yes fluoride detection did increase post-filtration. However keep in mind, our hypothesis is not that the filters themselves added fluoride, but rather that it had to do with our testing process and the fact that we used different water to prime the filters to 100 gallons than the water we ended up testing. Just wanted to clarify that
Thanks for the video. There is one info I cannot get anywhere, so if someone has an answer it would be great ! Do you know if we can adapt a berkey filter in a proone jar ?
It would depend on what contaminants are present in your water, but overall I tend to recommend reverse osmosis (with remineralization) over gravity-fed systems. Check out the AquaTru geni.us/chlQv5o If you're set on a stainless steel gravity-fed system, the Waterdrop King Tank performed the best in our independent testing waterdropus.pxf.io/ZQ3Kqg
That is dependent on the type and concentrations of contaminants present in the water being filtered. ProOne has tested their filters up to 200 gallons, but claim they can filter up to 1200. Again, a higher concentration of contaminants will cause the filters to hit capacity sooner
Wow, thanks for the robust testing (100 gallons probably took a while to flush through it!) and also thanks for being forthright about testing shortfalls and possible sources of error. That causes me to trust a review more than someone that tries to seem infallible or definitive
The ProOne pitcher uses the exact same filter technology as those in the stainless steel systems (just a smaller size). As you can see at 1:06, the filters didn't perform that great in reducing disinfection byproducts, which are only an issue in treated city water. That said, since you are only looking for a system to use with city water, you may want to consider something else. I'd recommend checking out Clearly Filtered geni.us/VsUZHW1 or ZeroWater geni.us/g7NtSZ
Glad you liked it! It depends. There is no 'one size fits all' solution. It all depends on what contaminants are in the source water being filtered. Have you had it tested? Do you know what contaminants you are dealing with? That said, for treated city water reverse osmosis will provide the most broad contaminant reduction.
@@loveguitars Check out a countertop RO system! These are meant exactly for folks who are not able to install a more permanent solution (ie. if you are renting). I love the AquaTru bit.ly/3w7nsB5 but you could also consider the RKIN U1 if you want more features bit.ly/3QJDNFo or even the Waterdrop N1 if you want a more basic system waterdropus.pxf.io/vnGOPW
Will you be doing a retest on this one? I’m really stuck between the waterdrop king tank and the proone. I feel like waterdrop isn’t as well known therefore, no lab tests and results. But your test on it came back really good for the waterdrop compared to the proone 🤔 makes it harder to choose. I’ll be using it for regular tap/city water.
I may do a retest in the future, but not specific ETA as of now. I'd probably go for the Waterdrop over this one, since our data showed the ProOne doesn't do so well with disinfection byproducts.
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I've searched online it feels like nearly everywhere, and no one can answer my question, but I thought you might be able to with how in-depth you go in your testing. I recently purchased the ProOne gravity-fed water filter system (the one shown in this video), and despite thorough cleaning of the canisters and properly installing their water filters (following instructions to a T), our filtered water comes out smelling and tasting metallic. It also has a fine, black residue that settles in the bottom canister. We've used a PUR Plus water pitcher for years and never had our water taste or smell metallic pre or post filtration and also have never seen the black residue. We even tried purchasing a glass canister system and used it with the ProOne filters, thinking the issue was possibly due to the stainless steel, but nope - same issue despite being in glass. Any thoughts would be priceless. Thanks for all you do to share info on water filtration.
Hi thanks for the question! The black residue is most likely carbon media fines washing out from the filter. This is normal, poses no risk and should dissipate with time. You could remove the filters, get them filled with water, cover the hole in the stem and shake them then drain and repeat to try to speed up this flushing of carbon fines. As for the metallic taste and smell, it's hard to say for sure without looking at testing data. Does the unfiltered water have the same taste and smell? Or is it only after being filtered through this specific system?
@@waterfilterguru Good to know about the carbon fines. We’ll have to give that a try. The unfiltered water has no metallic taste or smell. We only smell and taste the issue after filtering through the ProOne filters. We have yet to try other brand filters (other than the PUR Plus dispenser I mentioned, which does not create this taste). Also if the filtered water sits for a little while (like a few hours) the metallic taste and smell becomes more pronounced.
I have the Berkey Travel Water filter system. Is there an alternative filter to use with the Berkey that is more cost effective? I would also like to have the water that has been filtered through my Berkey tested to see if it is filtering as it should. I am concerned that I might have damaged the fluoride filter by turning it more than 8 turns when assembling the system. Would it be acceptable to use the link for having tap water analyzed to test my filtered water? I just need the assurance that my Berkey is doing its job.
Have you tested any OR systems? I read where the whole house OR arnt good for clean water cause of the settlements in the hot water tank and that you cant use hot water. So was wondering about sink OR systems
I'm assuming you mean 'RO' (reverse osmosis) systems? If so, yes we have tested a few. You can find all the videos in our Product Testing playlist th-cam.com/play/PLDqZ4wajyRIC2ji0iERZf35uFwyQE5vji.html&si=xhcmdK9XGDVzh8px
It depends. There is no 'one size fits all' solution. It all depends on what contaminants are in the source water being filtered. What type of water are you trying to filter? Have you had it tested? Do you know what contaminants you are dealing with?
Below are some of the containments that exceed greatly the health guidlines or my tap water/surface water available to me. Does the ProOne filter these out at least significantly? Or are these the "disinfection byproducts" you mentioned? 1,2,3-Trichloropropane Bromodichloromethane Chloroform Chromium Dibromochloromethane Haloacetic acids (HAA5)† Total trihalomethanes (TTHMs)† Radium Nitrates
Many of these are disinfection byproducts: Bromodichloromethane Chloroform Dibromochloromethane Haloacetic acids (HAA5) Total trihalomethanes (TTHMs) I'd recommend a reverse osmosis system which should be able to address not only the disinfection byproducts, but the chromium, radium and nitrates as well
Thanks for the great review, but why is the Proone listed as the best gravity filter on your website if it has this performance issue (and Waterdrop, for instance, doesn’t)?
It depends. Calcium and magnesium are essential nutrients for human health, but we get most of what we need from our diet. These same minerals are the primary component of hard water which can wreak havoc on a home's appliances and plumbing
It depends. There is no 'one size fits all' solution. It all depends on what contaminants are in the source water being filtered. What type of water are you trying to filter? Have you had it tested? Do you know what contaminants you are dealing with? Reverse osmosis provides the most broad contaminant reduction. At home, I use RO for my drinking and cooking water.
@@waterfilterguruwhat if an RO inline system isn’t doable for your living condition (renting) what would you recommend for a family that’s looking for a good system that also filters out hormones?
We try to test water sources that we know have fluoride. You can see all the systems we've tested and made videos about so far include fluoride as one of the analytes tested. That said, I hear your request for a video compiling info about the best countertop filters for fluoride reduction. Adding it to the list!
I wouldn't, because one might reduce some contaminants well, like DBPs for example, while the other does not, which would defeat the entire purpose of filtering. I'd recommend using two of the same type of filter.
I have a Berkey travel, and just wondering which filters would be the best replacement for city water. Fluoride is a concern, but glyphosate is a huge one as well.
Thank you! It depends on what type of water you want to filter, and the contaminants that might be present. For emergency preparedness and filtering untreated water, ProOne hands down for their ceramic filters. Berkey have revoked their claims for microbiological contaminant reduction. For treated city water though, Berkey performed better in our testing as ProOne didn't do very well reducing disinfection byproducts.
@@waterfilterguru it’s an interesting filter. It has a solid core in the middle that all the water has to pass. I broke an old one apart and took pictures of your interested?
I am an avid outdoors person and use Sawyer products. But, I'm not knowledgeable on systems such as this. I live in a rural area and my water comes from a well. I have nothing connected to the incoming well water, so what im drinking, cooking, bathing, is straight well water. Our water is high in calcium. I was looking at the Berkey and the Pro 1. Without having my water tested, in your opinion, which would be better? Or, is there even a better brand im not aware of that would be better? Thank you for taking the time to make, edit, and upload these videos, they are very helpful.
It's hard to provide any specific recommendations without lab testing data. This is where I'd recommend to start. Testing is vitally important (especially for well water) so you can ensure to target the right treatment based on the specific water issues at hand. Without testing data, you may or may not end up purchasing capable equipment.
My well water is extremely hard. Mostly calcium and magnesium. Gives me eczema and makes my hair gross. I have to wash my hair and face with bottled water. You said it increased these minerals? So it wouldnt be right for me?
Please see our hypothesis explained at 2:54 again. We suspect this anomaly was due to our testing process, and these substances are not coming from the filters themselves. That said, your best bet to treat hard water is at the point of entry with an ion exchange water softener - that will help with the skin and hair irritation 😉
Great video, I am curious to hear your thoughts on ProOne's advertised length of life on the filters. The website states the filters last from 1000-1200 gallons depending on the product. But the ProOne testing data states they are only lab tested for 200 gallons. How do they determine the life of the filter?
Filter life is directly correlated with the type and concentration of contaminants in the water being filtered. The more contaminants the filter needs to remove, the faster the filter will hit capacity, causing a shorter lifespan.
That makes total sense. But how does one determine if the subject filter is still filtering efficiently? The Berkey red dye test is the only quick test I'm aware of. Would 1,000 gallons of city tap water or 200 gallons of river water be a good rule of thumb?
@@bobyager8641 Unfortunately there is no quick rule of thumb. Testing is the only way to know for sure. Obviously lab testing is a bit expensive just to verify if a filter is working. You could use at-home test strips which will detect the presence of a handful of the most common contaminants, and they are much cheaper than lab testing
i live in florida and the water here is horrific and almost unrdrinkable as far as taste goes, I am looking for a water filter for City water, what do you recommend to get the purest water out of this city water.
Is the water supposed to taste like carbon or really weird after the first filtered batch? I've really ran the filter through cold water 10minutes before using.
@@samaelmartinus3273 I don't have a video, and honestly I haven't personally tried swapping filters to verify compatibility. That said, all the filter stems and holes in the steel vessels themselves are relatively the same size, if not the exact same size so I'd be fairly confident they are interchangeable. I'll test it out and make a video about it with the 5 units I have
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After 9mo. do you have any new data on the potential leakage of disinfection biproducts? Thanks
@@RonGageMusic I do not, we've not retested yet
I assume that you know this but pro one filters are only NSF 42 certified and do not claim to be NSF 53 certified. The key difference between NSF certification for water standard 42 and 53 is that standard 42 focuses on aesthetic impurities like taste and odor (mainly chlorine), while standard 53 focuses on contaminants that can pose a health risk, such as lead and other heavy metals; essentially, 42 is for how water looks and tastes, while 53 is for its potential health effects. Consequently this video is providing some misinformation to viewers that could potentially be harmful to them particularly when you’re using NSF 42 filters on river water giving people the impression that these filters can handle river water, which is not true.
@@randysmith3990 Thanks for your comment, but the video is not providing misinformation. At the time this video was recorded, ProOne was claiming their filters could be used to remove bacteria, parasites and other microorganisms from untreated surface water sources. It looks like they've since removed those claims from their website (most likely because they saw what happened to Berkey). They still show testing data for bacteria, parasites, and other microbiological contaminants found in untreated water though....prooneusa.com/proone-lab-report/
It should also be noted that ProOne filters are only _partially_ certified to NSF/ANSI 42 for _materials requirements only_ unfortunately some manufacturers mislead consumers like this in order to sell their products. I've discussed this in detail in this video th-cam.com/video/pOOvhhrYlpw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=iAiU6XFQpgPGL_J-&t=391
Anyway, ceramic filters are one of the oldest methods for addressing pathogens in water. That said, ProOne should get certified for performance.
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So few reviewers actually test in a lab and even fewer publish the receipts with links to the lab reports. Keep up the good work!
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He's the king when it comes to water filter reviews. Everyone else falls short... this was a very in -depth video on this water filter
great reviews, it’s funny to see real lab results and a lot of products don’t really remove Flouride, i’m glad this one does!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so very much for letting me know that this was available and for the work that you do. Another great job. Cheers! 😊
You're very welcome!
I would like to see a re-test on these filters like you did the berkey filters 😊 to see if disinfectant byproducts were in fact a fluke.
Thanks for your request! I'm very interested to do the same
Hi! Thank you for this info. Which filter do you recommend more than this one for city water?
It depends. There is no 'one size fits all' solution. It all depends on what contaminants are in the source water being filtered. Have you had the water tested? Do you know what contaminants you are dealing with?
Thanks for the review. I will have to listen to this again and take notes. I see now why it takes you awhile to do a review. Very much appreciated. Will probably get my own sample done as city water varies greatly from varied locations. Keep up the good work.
Glad it was helpful :)
We just bought one during their annual -25% off holiday sale on gravity units. Love 100% removal of fluoride, chlorine, bacteria + more. Great assembly instructions + customer service.The Traveller+ unit holds 2 gallons less 2 cups of water, with two 7 inch filters in it. To start, run about 4 or 5 batches through it, the filters will gradually hydrate + allow more water through. It takes about 2 1/2 hours (maybe less) to run about 2 gallons through it.
Right on! 🤙
When you say 4 or 5 batches, do you mean fill and empty the whole thing that many times?
Thanks bro, you're a life saver. I'm hoping the disinfectant byproducts were a fluke. The water from these filters tastes great and I'm glad they actually eliminate the Fluoride (unlike the AlexaPure I was using before). I already bought a year supply of these so I'm glad they'll do the job in an emergency (just in case).
Glad I could help, thanks for watching
I have been looking for someone who actually went through the effort to testing the water.
I feel a lot of other videos were made just to get you to use their link.
The comparison chart you did was really helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
I had ordered a Berkey then read that it’s not meant for use with water softeners from well water but this ProOne should be ok. Do you know if this is the case before I order one? Thank you!!
It depends on what contaminants are in the well water. The ProOne ceramic filters will physically filter microbiological contaminants that are larger than the filter's pores, which Berkey carbon filters are unable to do. That said, proper disinfection is always recommended for raw water that may be contaminated with pathogens. The pro one filters may or may not be sufficient for addressing other contaminants like dissolved organics, inorganics and metals.
Thank you for your help with this!
@@SoxR04 You're welcome
Great video. Thank you for doing this. I’m a bit disappointed, I was hoping that the ProOne filter would fill my need, but your data shows that it doesn’t.
I have city water with high chlorine and high fluoride and I’m looking for a gravity filter option that can eliminate both. I had a Berkey with fluoride filters but one of your other videos demonstrated that the fluoride filters for the Berkey were ADDING aluminum to the water.
I’m at a loss right now.
Have you seen our Berkey Test 2 video? th-cam.com/video/1QL3McV20YM/w-d-xo.html
I did and I was not persuaded. Your first video was eye opening
@@dad2princesses896 It was the 100 gal of water that had to go through it to clear it. My gosh can we trust anything? Or is that saying something is better than nothing? It is so confusing.
Same here...there are so many days when I'm doing dishes or taking a shower and all I can smell is hotel pool 😳🤢🤢🤢
Thanks for the video. So what ARE the better options you mentioned?
Waterdrop King Tank waterdropus.pxf.io/ZQ3Kqg
Berkey with black filters only tinyurl.com/bdfrzxsb
@@waterfilterguru Thanks
@@waterfilterguruwhy Berkeley filters with black filters only as opposed to with the added fluoride filters?
@@Davo198 the Berkey PF2 fluoride filters leached high levels of activated alumina media in our testing
@@waterfilterguru oh wow. Thanks for clarifying
Did u do testing toward the end of the filter life to see if it is still highly effective?😮
Not yet - lot's of requests to test all filters at the end of their expected filter life though! Will be working on this in the future
We have horrible city water with a biofilm problem. The biofilm grows in our pro one filters. Our filtered water tastes just like our unfiltered water. I was cleaning the filter every day and it was not helping. I added colloidal silver to the water pre-filter and that helped the taste greatly. I can’t keep doing that. I will have to find a better filter.
Have you reached out to your water provider about the biofilm issue? What are they doing to address the problem?
Biofilm? Ew!!! That is NOT okay!!! You may find the natural path silver wings more economical. High ppm.
Thanks for this update!
Which city tap water was used for the tests?
Thanks for watching!
You didn't answer his question...
I really would think another round of testing would have been done before publishing results. It takes time and money but you have no idea for sure why till then. From my experience, I would not buy from Pro One again. we bought them years ago. then bought them again. this time I tested with blue dye. at least one of 4 filters allowed blue dye through. Customer service was kinda sketchy and basically seemed that some amount of blue dye was ok. Dye particles are larger than all the things we are concerned about. So if dye is coming through, what else also is. Finally they agreed to a full refund and not an exchange. Pro One is getting their filters manufactured by a third party in the UK though that may have changed.
Ideally we'd have 10+ tests worth of data, the more the better
Yeah I tried ordering from them a year or two ago but the one we wanted was on backorder. I signed up for email when back in stock and instead of sending just one, they sent dozens. Over the course of 2 hours I lost count how many I'd gotten, just minutes (or even seconds) apart. I tried fixing it but their customer service was garbage. I reported as many as I could as spam and never looked back. It's a shame, because it sounded so promising.
In your opinion, what system tested the best for gravity fed?
Waterdrop King Tank for City Water geni.us/M8bSq
ProOne for river water geni.us/0T5W8
Hi, could you please review the british berkefed filter, they are the very first and original one, wander if ther is a difference
Thank you
I've got this project scheduled and prioritized! Make sure you're subscribed so you get notified when I upload the video www.youtube.com/@waterfilterguru?sub_confirmation=1
Thank you, good sir! Your work is much appreciated.
My pleasure!
What is your favourite gravity-fed filter? New subscriber. Hope you do the British Berkefeld one soon. Thanks!
Though I don't have a video yet, I do have an article comparing the gravity filters I've tested: waterfilterguru.com/best-gravity-water-filter/
British Berkefeld is in the works!
So is it better to use the proone or the berkey?
It depends, what type of water source are you trying to filter? What contaminants do you need to target?
Tap Score ! Thanks Water Filter Guru :) Great product review as usual, perhaps best yet !!!
Thank you Johnny!
Thank you. I have a ProOne Counter top for 5 years. Last year is the first time I was unable to find water filters for the ProOne. Do you have any clue if this company is still doing business. I decided to purchase the Clearly Filtered an am happy with it. I have been using it since October as I was unable to purchase the ProOne filters. So thank you for the review on Clearly Filtered. Now which water countertop would be as good or better than ProOne. Thank you for all your reviews. They help us a lot.
Yes, you can order ProOne replacement filters here geni.us/gkhhl
@@waterfilterguru I appreciate your response but the filters are nowhere to be found. I usually order from their site, but they have been out of stock since forever. None of my calls are returned as well. Thank you anyway may have to research on what to purchase to replace my ProOne.
Great review! I'm looking for a gravity fed system to have on hand for emergency preparedness. Do you recommend the ProOne or AlexaPure as best for this purpose? Thanks!
I'd personally go with ProOne due to their ceramic shell filters
Hi thanks for reviewing the gravity filters! With the Pro one filters not filtering phosphorous is it safe to use them for 70 foot deep untreated well water near small farming cornfeilds?
I just responded to a couple of your other comments - apologies for the delay. Without knowing exactly what contaminants are present, its hard to say whether or not the ProOne would be sufficient. As a first step, I highly recommend lab testing your well water to get a complete, full understanding of the water issues at hand. I recommend and use Tap Score for lab testing - hands down the best I've come accross, check it out bit.ly/3kJcnnp
Dont worry about it Im grateful you answered! Your a smart honorable man with integrity. I will heed your advice! Thank you so much
So what are the better choices that clear disinfection by-products from tap water? I have choramines in my water.
I am in Toronto, Canada so I have ALL the crap in my water including fluoride. What would you recommend?
Thank you
I'd recommend a countertop reverse osmosis system, rather than gravity-fed system. RO provides much more thorough contaminant reduction. Check out the Aquatru geni.us/chlQv5o
@@waterfilterguru Thank you. I will look into that. What about Clearly Filtered? It seems to be removing everything and I prefer "simpler" methods if possible. Not that crazy about destillers or RO unless absolutely necessary.
Regarding RO I believe that there are certain things that it does not remove like volatiles, pharmaceuticals etc.
Thank you for putting this together!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the great videos! How do these ProOne filters do with PFAS and microplastic filtration?
While neither of these contaminants were analyzed in our initial test, we can make a couple assumptions:
1) Activated carbon is currently one of the best methods to address PFAs in residential applications, and AC is one component of the media in these filters. We can extrapolate that they will reduce some % of PFAs.
2) Ceramic media can block suspended particles down to 0.5 microns in size. Microplastics can range from 1 -5,000 microns in size. So the ceramic media should be capable of reducing a large % of microplastics present. However if there are nanoplastics smaller than 0.5 microns, some might get through
@@waterfilterguru WFG for President!
Hi, thanks for your water filter information you said in your video if you want to treat or filter town water there might be a better option than the pro one. Can you advise where to go we have tapwater here and we want to run it through gravity fed filter with the best results. One of our biggest biggest issue is fluoride.
Thanks Marc
I know you said you're looking for gravity filters, but I'd hands down recommend a countertop RO system like the Aquatru geni.us/chlQv5o over any gravity system for overall superior contaminant reduction.
Otherwise, the Clearly Filtered pitcher geni.us/VsUZHW1 and the Waterdrop King Tank waterdropus.pxf.io/ZQ3Kqg gravity systems did well with fluoride in our testing
Which brand is best for city water?
Check out this video th-cam.com/video/rAeRcqfXnRo/w-d-xo.html
So are there any recommendations for filters that do remove the disinfection by-products? As I do have a pro one filter But if there's something that works better I would love to get some suggestions so I can look into them further Thanks!😊
The Waterdrop King Tank filters performed well in our testing waterdropus.pxf.io/m53ze7 however we've not tested compatibility between the two system tanks
Did you test the river water before putting it through the filter?
Yes, links to the lab reports are in the description
so... for filtering city water... which one do you think is best on a cost/benefit analysis? and for filtering "boil water advisory" or random stream water, which one would you suggest?
Depends, what contaminants are present that need to be addressed?
For city water, I tend to lean towards reverse osmosis, because these systems target the most broad range of contaminants.
To be prepared for a boil water advisory or filtering untreated surface water, the ProOne or another system with ceramic filters would be a good choice.
Another great lab test video thank you so much. do you have a video showing your number one recommended gravity fed filter I would 100% watch and appreciate it. Thank you so much.
I don't have a best gravity water filters video yet, but thanks for the request!
So which is the best of the gravity water filters your tested? Also can you test tge aquacera gravity systems?
Waterdrop King Tank performed the best with city water, and overall in our scoring system geni.us/M8bSq however the ProOne would be best for emergency preparedness or filtering untreated surface water geni.us/0T5W8
I've got Aquacera on my list for the next time I do a round of gravity filter testing!
does it remove microplastics and PFAS?
Neither of those were included in our test, so I don't have any firsthand data for you. That said, the ceramic filter should reduce microplastics larger than the pore size, but smaller particles could slip through. The activated carbon media within should be able to reduce PFAs.
Thank you for your excellent videos.
Do you have more information about what kind of filter media they use to filter out fluoride.
Just called the company and representative Jeanny told me they use aluminum media for that, but on proone website they claim not to use aluminum or alumina in their filters.
After watching your video I wanted to buy one,but do not want to buy it with alumina, even though you showed it filters aluminum from water.
Do you have any idea what they might use for it.
Thanks
Hi,, I'm not sure what media they use for fluoride reduction - either activated alumina (aluminum oxide) or bone char carbon. It should be noted that activated alumina media is one of the most common methods for fluoride reduction, especially in gravity-fed applications as efficacy is directly correlated with contact time. If used properly, it shouldn't leach into the filtered water.
@@waterfilterguru Thank you
Thank you for the review of the ProOne have you done one with the ProOne undermount sink? We have one and we tested the water itbran a 156 ppn red zone.
We have not yet tested any of their under sink filters. Keep in mind, TDS reading alone doesn't tell you if water is healthy or not, and doesn't measure all possible contaminants in the water. Check out this video th-cam.com/video/yHvdYWXiVzI/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for the response on the test. Which undermount would you suggest and or whole house unit?
@@friends791 What contaminants/ water issues are present that need to be addressed? Have you had the water tested?
@waterfilterguru no I haven't had it checked. I was concerned because we have the proone but it still read Red. So did the bathroom with no filter. I'm very confused on all of this.
@@friends791 That ProOne filter is probably not capable of reducing TDS, so this would be an expected result. Check out this video, it might help you th-cam.com/video/JU4sPer1944/w-d-xo.html
are the RO systems (with remineralization) better than the gravity filtration systems?
In most cases yes, RO systems with remineralization will provide more broad contaminant reduction that gravity-fed systems. This is due to the RO process as well as multiple filter media used in the system.
What do you use personally in your home for water filtration?
Reverse osmosis with remineralization always for drinking water
Thanks for the review; so, what would you recommend as an alternative option to ProOne. I have a Berkey system which I'm looking for the best filter compatible with (preferably removing fluoride).
The Waterdrop King Tank filters performed well in our testing waterdropus.pxf.io/m53ze7
@@waterfilterguru thanks!
You're welcome
Do their gravity filters remove rust? Cant seem to find it or may have missed it. If not, do you have any recommendations? Got rust in the well water and would love a gravity system as a nice back up
Yes ceramic filters should be able to reduce rust. Since rust (oxidized iron) is a suspended particle in the water, it will be physically blocked and removed by the small pores in the ceramic filter.
@@waterfilterguru What ceramic filters do you recommend just for overall good tasting well water? Getting exhausted doing hours of research and rabbit holes that some filters may "leach aluminum" or that the Pro one I see is only "component certification"?. Thank you very much for reply.
@@YardPrep00 Ceramic filters alone won't necessarily improve the taste of water. The most effective method to improve taste is to filter with an activated carbon filter.
Are you the owner of the well? When was your well last tested by a certified lab? What contaminants/ water issues need to be addressed besides ferric (oxidized) iron?
@@waterfilterguru Yes, out on an acreage. Water is fine just traces of rust in the water. Looking for a good gravity filter setup basically incase of SHTF
Gotha. I'd go for the ProOne then - just make sure to also have a method of disinfection prepared as well. On that note, did you see my recent video about emergency SHTF water prep? th-cam.com/video/Btqqwd_cLiA/w-d-xo.html
So it this filter cartridge the best for removing fluoride out of city water for a gravity water system?
Will these cartridges fit the Alexa pure?
Both these and the Water drop King Tank fluoride filters completely eliminated fluoride in our testing. Berkey had an issue in our first test, but worked better and completely eliminated fluoride in our second test. We did not test filter compatibility between units
Hey Brian, thanks for the video. Wonder if you can help with a couple of questions - Is the white outer part of the filter made of ceramic? And is the blue bottom part of the filter also made of ceramic or is that plastic?
Also the black thread and nut at the bottom of the filters looks like plastic, it is that correct?
These are great questions!
Yes, the white outer shell of the filter is ceramic.
The blue bottom bracket is plastic. The threads and nuts are also plastic.
@@waterfilterguru thanks a lot for clarifying Brian 🙏
Crazy how so many of these filters have so much plastic in contact with water!
@@Davo198 happy to help!
What is the best gravity fed water system in your opinion for city water?
It depends, what contaminants are in the water that you need to address?
@waterfilterguru we are looking to filter out flouride and lead. We would also like a system that we could also filter river water if we had to.
@@ashleypeeler7313 I would like to know as well please. @waterfilterguru You also had mentioned above that their might be better options for treated city water? Thank you!
@@waterfilterguru Might be time for a recap since you have covered all the popular ones with a side by side comparison that summarizes all these videos?
@@mnj5089 Thanks for the suggestion!
Would you recommend this type of filter for the filtration of well water? I am planning to move into a fully off grid situation with no electricity (i.e. grid, solar, wind or hydro) or propane power, so I need a filter that doesn't rely on a power source.
It all depends on what contaminants are present in the well water. This system may or may not be sufficient to filter the water for drinking. Have you had the well tested yet?
Do you have a hypothesis for the reason there was a doubling of the amount of Barium in the water?
I don't. We saw barium reduced with the other 3 filters we tested at the same time, with the same water sample. This could suggest the increased concentration post-filtration in this test was coming from the unit itself. More testing would of course be needed to verify and determine if this is a pervasive issue
What about the doulton ultra fluoride filter?
Got it on my to-do list already!
Thank you so much for doing this lab test! I would particularly love to see a side-by-side independent lab test comparison that you have conducted for the ProOne Water filter pitcher & the Clearly Filtered water pitcher. Also, the plastic water filter pitcher may yield different results than the large metal containers. Thank you!
Thanks for your suggestion, we may be able to do this in a future project. That said, the filter element used in the ProOne pitcher is exactly the same as those used in the stainless steel units - the only difference being size.
Hi! So which one do you recommend, or would you buy between Berkley, prone, Alexapure pro, and water drop king tank?? Thank you!!!!
What contaminants are present that you need to address? What type of water do you want to filter? Treated city water or untreated surface water?
@@waterfiltergurucity water and get rid of fluoride.
/ as much contaminants as possible.
@@adrianan3616 In that case I wouldn't even recommend a gravity-fed system. Get a reverse osmosis system with remineralization filter, like the Aquatru geni.us/chlQv5o
Excellent review- I was debating between the ProOne and the Epic pitchers. Does the ProOne pitcher perform as well as the counter top that you used in your tests?
The pitcher uses the exact same filter element as the stainless steel unit, just a smaller size
Which filtration system would you say is best? Looking for something g that removes pharmaceuticals, rust too.
It depends. There is no 'one size fits all' solution. It all depends on what contaminants are in the source water being filtered. What is the application? What type of water are you trying to filter? Have you had it tested? Do you know what contaminants you are dealing with (in addition to pharmaceuticals and ferric iron aka rust)? What type of system (POU vs POE) are you looking for?
Was there no fluoride detected after being filtered????
Correct, the filters removed 100% of the fluoride in our test. See 0:58
@@waterfilterguru wow! Amazing! I think it was the Alexapure that fluoride went up 200%.
@@mrsupchurch2987 If you are referring to our Alexapure test, then yes fluoride detection did increase post-filtration. However keep in mind, our hypothesis is not that the filters themselves added fluoride, but rather that it had to do with our testing process and the fact that we used different water to prime the filters to 100 gallons than the water we ended up testing. Just wanted to clarify that
Thank you so much for all the information. Could you please let me know if you tested British berkefeld water system? Thank you in advance
Not yet, but I've got it on the list to test soon!
@@waterfilterguru thank you so much.
So filtration isn't enough? We must boil as well either before or after filtration? That complicates survival mode😢
Yes, I always recommend a proper method of disinfection in addition to filtration. Chemical, boiling or UV
Which performed best for city water, and removed fluoride?
The Waterdrop King Tank waterdropus.pxf.io/ZQ3Kqg
@@waterfilterguru
Can Water Drop King filters fit in a Berkey system?
@@Metalgal80 they're advertised to, we've not tested the compatibility yet though
I appreciate the links to the tests!
I appreciate you watching!
Subscribed! Thank you for your work. Would be great to see a video on Doulton filters.
Coming soon!
@@waterfilterguru Yes!🙌
Thankyou so much for your videos. Do the king drop water filters fit into the Big Berkey or is it the same filter?
I didn't test this myself but I know they're marketed to be compatible
Thanks for the video. There is one info I cannot get anywhere, so if someone has an answer it would be great !
Do you know if we can adapt a berkey filter in a proone jar ?
I've heard of folks doing it vis versa, but I've not tested doing this myself to verify if it works or not just yet
Hi, have you found the answer yet? I too am wondering of the Berkey filters are compatible with the Pro1
So if someone wants to filter city water. What is the better option?
It would depend on what contaminants are present in your water, but overall I tend to recommend reverse osmosis (with remineralization) over gravity-fed systems. Check out the AquaTru geni.us/chlQv5o
If you're set on a stainless steel gravity-fed system, the Waterdrop King Tank performed the best in our independent testing waterdropus.pxf.io/ZQ3Kqg
what is a better filter that removes DBP's?
From our testing, the Waterdrop King tank filters did great waterdropus.pxf.io/m53ze7
Does the pro one remove prions ?
Not to my knowledge
How long do the filters last? 🙏🏻
That is dependent on the type and concentrations of contaminants present in the water being filtered.
ProOne has tested their filters up to 200 gallons, but claim they can filter up to 1200. Again, a higher concentration of contaminants will cause the filters to hit capacity sooner
Wow, thanks for the robust testing (100 gallons probably took a while to flush through it!) and also thanks for being forthright about testing shortfalls and possible sources of error. That causes me to trust a review more than someone that tries to seem infallible or definitive
Thanks for your feedback, this really helps validate the process we use for these testing projects is working as intended!
Great video!
Was leaning toward the smaller PurOne pitcher, but this is strictly for city water. Suggestions?
The ProOne pitcher uses the exact same filter technology as those in the stainless steel systems (just a smaller size). As you can see at 1:06, the filters didn't perform that great in reducing disinfection byproducts, which are only an issue in treated city water.
That said, since you are only looking for a system to use with city water, you may want to consider something else. I'd recommend checking out Clearly Filtered geni.us/VsUZHW1 or ZeroWater geni.us/g7NtSZ
@@waterfilterguru Thanks! Watched your video on the ClearlyFiltered pitcher and ordered from your link!
Awesome Video! What are the best filter systems for city water? Thank you!🙏
Glad you liked it!
It depends. There is no 'one size fits all' solution. It all depends on what contaminants are in the source water being filtered. Have you had it tested? Do you know what contaminants you are dealing with?
That said, for treated city water reverse osmosis will provide the most broad contaminant reduction.
@@waterfilterguru Thank you. I have not had my water tested. I rent and cannot install a RO system. Any thoughts a a good filter system? Thank you.
@@loveguitars Check out a countertop RO system! These are meant exactly for folks who are not able to install a more permanent solution (ie. if you are renting). I love the AquaTru bit.ly/3w7nsB5 but you could also consider the RKIN U1 if you want more features bit.ly/3QJDNFo or even the Waterdrop N1 if you want a more basic system waterdropus.pxf.io/vnGOPW
Will you be doing a retest on this one? I’m really stuck between the waterdrop king tank and the proone. I feel like waterdrop isn’t as well known therefore, no lab tests and results. But your test on it came back really good for the waterdrop compared to the proone 🤔 makes it harder to choose. I’ll be using it for regular tap/city water.
I may do a retest in the future, but not specific ETA as of now. I'd probably go for the Waterdrop over this one, since our data showed the ProOne doesn't do so well with disinfection byproducts.
What sink faucet is that? with the laminar flow?
It's actually an aerator from Walmart which is threaded onto the existing faucet
Got my sub.
I love science based reviews 🙌
Thanks for the sub, glad you like the videos! Get ready for more coming
If these filters don't have aluminum oxide in them, how exactly are they removing fluoride?
Bone char GAC most likely
Is sulfate bad?
Elevated sulfate concentrations may have a short-term laxative effect and cause dehydration, especially among infants. There are no known chronic health risks associated with sulfate.
I've searched online it feels like nearly everywhere, and no one can answer my question, but I thought you might be able to with how in-depth you go in your testing.
I recently purchased the ProOne gravity-fed water filter system (the one shown in this video), and despite thorough cleaning of the canisters and properly installing their water filters (following instructions to a T), our filtered water comes out smelling and tasting metallic. It also has a fine, black residue that settles in the bottom canister. We've used a PUR Plus water pitcher for years and never had our water taste or smell metallic pre or post filtration and also have never seen the black residue. We even tried purchasing a glass canister system and used it with the ProOne filters, thinking the issue was possibly due to the stainless steel, but nope - same issue despite being in glass. Any thoughts would be priceless. Thanks for all you do to share info on water filtration.
Hi thanks for the question! The black residue is most likely carbon media fines washing out from the filter. This is normal, poses no risk and should dissipate with time. You could remove the filters, get them filled with water, cover the hole in the stem and shake them then drain and repeat to try to speed up this flushing of carbon fines.
As for the metallic taste and smell, it's hard to say for sure without looking at testing data. Does the unfiltered water have the same taste and smell? Or is it only after being filtered through this specific system?
@@waterfilterguru Good to know about the carbon fines. We’ll have to give that a try.
The unfiltered water has no metallic taste or smell. We only smell and taste the issue after filtering through the ProOne filters. We have yet to try other brand filters (other than the PUR Plus dispenser I mentioned, which does not create this taste).
Also if the filtered water sits for a little while (like a few hours) the metallic taste and smell becomes more pronounced.
@@grapefields25 what is the pH of the water?
@@waterfilterguru Our city water report a few months ago states our water to be at a level of 9.14pH
I have the Berkey Travel Water filter system. Is there an alternative filter to use with the Berkey that is more cost effective? I would also like to have the water that has been filtered through my Berkey tested to see if it is filtering as it should. I am concerned that I might have damaged the fluoride filter by turning it more than 8 turns when assembling the system. Would it be acceptable to use the link for having tap water analyzed to test my filtered water? I just need the assurance that my Berkey is doing its job.
Yes, we use the Tap Score Advanced City Water Test for all our testing projects, check it out here bit.ly/3HJrxAw (mytapscore.com)
Have you tested any OR systems?
I read where the whole house OR arnt good for clean water cause of the settlements in the hot water tank and that you cant use hot water. So was wondering about sink OR systems
I'm assuming you mean 'RO' (reverse osmosis) systems?
If so, yes we have tested a few. You can find all the videos in our Product Testing playlist th-cam.com/play/PLDqZ4wajyRIC2ji0iERZf35uFwyQE5vji.html&si=xhcmdK9XGDVzh8px
In a grid down system we would boil the water first before we putting it through a filtration system . If possible.
Or after filtration. As long as it's disinfected before consumption 👍
What are the best filters in your opinion for city water?
It depends. There is no 'one size fits all' solution. It all depends on what contaminants are in the source water being filtered. What type of water are you trying to filter? Have you had it tested? Do you know what contaminants you are dealing with?
Below are some of the containments that exceed greatly the health guidlines or my tap water/surface water available to me. Does the ProOne filter these out at least significantly? Or are these the "disinfection byproducts" you mentioned?
1,2,3-Trichloropropane
Bromodichloromethane
Chloroform
Chromium
Dibromochloromethane
Haloacetic acids (HAA5)†
Total trihalomethanes (TTHMs)†
Radium
Nitrates
Many of these are disinfection byproducts:
Bromodichloromethane
Chloroform
Dibromochloromethane
Haloacetic acids (HAA5)
Total trihalomethanes (TTHMs)
I'd recommend a reverse osmosis system which should be able to address not only the disinfection byproducts, but the chromium, radium and nitrates as well
Thanks for the great review, but why is the Proone listed as the best gravity filter on your website if it has this performance issue (and Waterdrop, for instance, doesn’t)?
We are currently in the process of revamping and updating many articles on the site. This is in the works
@@waterfilterguru cool, thanks!
wouldn't calcium magnesium etc be a good thing to have in water?
It depends. Calcium and magnesium are essential nutrients for human health, but we get most of what we need from our diet. These same minerals are the primary component of hard water which can wreak havoc on a home's appliances and plumbing
Which do you think is the best for filtering city water based on these results if not the Pro One?
For treated city water, the Aquatru performed the best in our testing. Check it out here geni.us/chlQv5o
@@waterfilterguru Great thank you.
What is the best gravity fed filter for well water in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania area?
It depends, what contaminants are present in the water? Do you have any other treatment system in place?
Really great explanation of the results. Thanks for sharing!
Glad it was helpful!
So what filter do you use personally? What would you recommend?
It depends. There is no 'one size fits all' solution. It all depends on what contaminants are in the source water being filtered. What type of water are you trying to filter? Have you had it tested? Do you know what contaminants you are dealing with?
Reverse osmosis provides the most broad contaminant reduction. At home, I use RO for my drinking and cooking water.
@@waterfilterguruwhat if an RO inline system isn’t doable for your living condition (renting) what would you recommend for a family that’s looking for a good system that also filters out hormones?
@@MissHannaHeartbreak the Aquatru countertop RO system - doesn't require a plumbing connection bit.ly/3w7nsB5
Can you do a video on counter top fluoride water filters?
We try to test water sources that we know have fluoride. You can see all the systems we've tested and made videos about so far include fluoride as one of the analytes tested.
That said, I hear your request for a video compiling info about the best countertop filters for fluoride reduction. Adding it to the list!
Just discovered your channel! Thank you for all the work you do. I have used the Zen Water System for many years. Have you ever done a test on them?
We have not tested that one yet
I have an AlexaPure unit and filters I'm going to buy ProOne filters. Can I use 1 of each filter at the same time?
I wouldn't, because one might reduce some contaminants well, like DBPs for example, while the other does not, which would defeat the entire purpose of filtering. I'd recommend using two of the same type of filter.
I have a Berkey travel, and just wondering which filters would be the best replacement for city water. Fluoride is a concern, but glyphosate is a huge one as well.
I'm thinking overall this would be better than the Berkey filters.
The Waterdrop King Tank filters waterdropus.pxf.io/m53ze7 performed well in our testing for city water contaminants, including fluoride
Bad link. I'm sure i can find data on it regardless, thank you!@@waterfilterguru
@@fudder1831the link works now, sorry for the confusion
Thanks again!@@waterfilterguru
How will it do with softened water
Fine, it's not capable of reducing the sodium added by the softened water so that will just pass through
Another excellent review. If you were choosing between a Berkey and this ProOne, what would be your deciding factors?
Thank you! It depends on what type of water you want to filter, and the contaminants that might be present. For emergency preparedness and filtering untreated water, ProOne hands down for their ceramic filters. Berkey have revoked their claims for microbiological contaminant reduction.
For treated city water though, Berkey performed better in our testing as ProOne didn't do very well reducing disinfection byproducts.
Great video. Now I need to look for a AquaCera AMB filter test.
We've got it on the list 😉
@@waterfilterguru it’s an interesting filter. It has a solid core in the middle that all the water has to pass. I broke an old one apart and took pictures of your interested?
@@Labukh84 wierd he didn't answer you...
I am an avid outdoors person and use Sawyer products. But, I'm not knowledgeable on systems such as this. I live in a rural area and my water comes from a well. I have nothing connected to the incoming well water, so what im drinking, cooking, bathing, is straight well water. Our water is high in calcium.
I was looking at the Berkey and the Pro 1. Without having my water tested, in your opinion, which would be better? Or, is there even a better brand im not aware of that would be better?
Thank you for taking the time to make, edit, and upload these videos, they are very helpful.
It's hard to provide any specific recommendations without lab testing data. This is where I'd recommend to start. Testing is vitally important (especially for well water) so you can ensure to target the right treatment based on the specific water issues at hand. Without testing data, you may or may not end up purchasing capable equipment.
Did you cycle water through the systems before the test? It says the cycle water 2-3 times before use
This is explained starting at 0:27
My well water is extremely hard. Mostly calcium and magnesium. Gives me eczema and makes my hair gross. I have to wash my hair and face with bottled water. You said it increased these minerals? So it wouldnt be right for me?
Please see our hypothesis explained at 2:54 again. We suspect this anomaly was due to our testing process, and these substances are not coming from the filters themselves.
That said, your best bet to treat hard water is at the point of entry with an ion exchange water softener - that will help with the skin and hair irritation 😉
Great video, I am curious to hear your thoughts on ProOne's advertised length of life on the filters. The website states the filters last from 1000-1200 gallons depending on the product. But the ProOne testing data states they are only lab tested for 200 gallons. How do they determine the life of the filter?
Filter life is directly correlated with the type and concentration of contaminants in the water being filtered. The more contaminants the filter needs to remove, the faster the filter will hit capacity, causing a shorter lifespan.
That makes total sense. But how does one determine if the subject filter is still filtering efficiently? The Berkey red dye test is the only quick test I'm aware of. Would 1,000 gallons of city tap water or 200 gallons of river water be a good rule of thumb?
@@bobyager8641 Unfortunately there is no quick rule of thumb. Testing is the only way to know for sure. Obviously lab testing is a bit expensive just to verify if a filter is working. You could use at-home test strips which will detect the presence of a handful of the most common contaminants, and they are much cheaper than lab testing
i live in florida and the water here is horrific and almost unrdrinkable as far as taste goes, I am looking for a water filter for City water, what do you recommend to get the purest water out of this city water.
Reverse osmosis. Check out the Aquatru countertop RO aquatru.pxf.io/b3WYGP
Is the water supposed to taste like carbon or really weird after the first filtered batch? I've really ran the filter through cold water 10minutes before using.
Filter a few full batches (like 3) then taste again. Carbon dust can come out in the filtered water at the beginning. Let me know if that helps
Do you know of i can use kust the pro filter on a 100-200 dollar gravity filter?
Are you asking if ProOne filters are compatible with other stainless steel gravity vessels, like Berkey or similar?
@@waterfilterguru hi and yes. If u have a video drop a link so I can contribute a watch
@@samaelmartinus3273 I don't have a video, and honestly I haven't personally tried swapping filters to verify compatibility. That said, all the filter stems and holes in the steel vessels themselves are relatively the same size, if not the exact same size so I'd be fairly confident they are interchangeable. I'll test it out and make a video about it with the 5 units I have
@@waterfilterguru ok thanks, I'm subbed so I'll be looking forward to the watch my friend. Have a good day. HMD
Have you done the Doulton ultra carb filters?
Not yet