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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Will Faerber from Art 2 Ride begins a series on developing collection. These are actual schooling session with Amber and Legolas as they begin the journey toward collection. In other words, you've got your horse stretching and well developed in working gaits, what comes next. We show you each days schooling over a period of a few weeks so that you can get an idea of how we progress over time. A good trainer is like a chess player, he is thinking many moves ahead and how his beginning strategy will effect his end game.
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Thank you, sir, for sharing these videos. Finally, a channel I can wholeheartedly recommend for those who really want to understand how to develop their horse. With deepest appreciation-
I have seen so many dressage video's but this series is by far the best I have seen
Thx a million !!!
How inspiring! It's cool too see his movement get slower and loftier. I wish all horses followed your program. There would be a lot more sound, happy horses out there.
Wow and Wow! :D My goodness the muscle Legolas has now! He is such a totally different horse. What beautiful work from him and Amber. And great commentary Will. So useful for us all! :) Thanks!
I really like the voice over commentary
I just love these training videos - I get so much out of them and everything is explained in detail. Thank You.
Love these videos they cover everything!
Just what we've been waiting for!
You guys are just great....kind, PATIENT, doing what is right for each horse and taking the time to lay the proper foundation. Love it!
Fabulous! Thanks for posting!
very good material with such good advice
Question from an eventer: If you could answer this it would be very helpful but if not I understand completely. Recently I've been having problems with showjumping because I just can't seem to keep my dressage foundations through it. My horse is developing excellently in his dressage and I'm super proud of how far we have come in it with him working correctly. But recently when I've been jumping him he lands on his forehand, drops his shoulders, and hauls on my hands with so much force that he actually broke my rein. When doing dressage, he is light and off of his forehand, so it is completely the opposite. I've tried to incorporate a jump in a dressage day and just work on him keeping his composure, but he immediately looses it and drops his focus, collecting incorrectly whenever I try and ask him to work properly. He is an off the track thoroughbred and when on the track he was ridden in a really harsh bit before going into some shady racing where they just ruined his mouth. It has taken me two years to get him light and responsive in a plain snaffle on the flat but over fences it doesn't matter what I put in his mouth he will pull the same with any bit. Working with only my position like I do with flat doesn't help, and when I try and use any seat aids he completely ignores them which is the exact opposite when doing flat. I guess the main thing would be how to incorporate these foundations into my ride and get him to be able to listen to me in the same fashion he does when we do dressage when going over fences.
Will, I have a question for you about horses that people consider collected. I hear many people state their horses are on the bit and that they are collected. In my opinion, these animals have been trained to carry the bit in a certain way, or their heads and necks in a certain way, which people come to expect as a sign of a well trained animal. These horses may or may not keep decent contact and usually their backends are trailing behind or they are hollow or flat in the back, certainly not weighting the backend or working well over the back. People seem only to care about what the head of the horse looks like.
My personal horses are pleasure horses and I do not ride avidly anymore. They have been broken using classical methods from greenies to do a particular job, and are good at what they do, but we do not maintain a high level of training or fitness in these horses. Visitors or students will often come from another barn to ride my horses and ask me why they aren't on the bit. In my opinion, my horses are moving along very nicely and relaxed, they are obedient and forward and they bend and flex well, they simply do not carry their heads completely vertically. I would rather my horse move forward and relaxed with a willing mind on a loose rein or limited contact, then be in false collection. Is this wrong thinking? I am thinking my horses simply are not asked to go any further in their training and fitness than they are, and I am fine with that for what I expect of them. I know that most people when they look you up are probably concerned with competition and training and fitness progression, but I am curious as to your advice for noncompetitive riders who still want to ride correctly at basic and lower levels. Thank you!
Answered by Art2Ride Associate Trainers:
Chelsea MacPhail I
think you're absolutely correct! Many people say "on the bit or on the
vertical" but what they mean is a false frame rather than a horse that
is softly accepting the connection between the riders hands and their
mouth. Rather than focusing on the front
of the horse we recommend working the horse from back to front which
means getting them active and then asking them to stretch their head and
neck down and out to the point that they are able to engage their core
to lift their backs as well as the weight of the rider. Not everyone can
sustain a regular fitness program with their horse but if you are
achieving this relaxation and engagement in each ride then you can be
comfortable knowing that you are not doing harm to your horse and are
setting them up for success. The contact that we strive for, no matter
what level the horse, is the weight of the rein so it should be light
but consistent. It sounds like you have a great sense of what is best
for your horses and are focused most on their well being and happiness.
It can be tough to deal with critics but there is a great supportive
community within Art2Ride :)
William Faerber You
can't ride a horse beyond its level of physical development, And that's
exactly why we see so many broken down horses today. You were doing
just the right thing with your horses and they are just the kind of
horses that beginning riders should be riding.
So today people start out riding hanging on the mouth of the horses and
being told that's perfectly fine. In fact they encourage it and tell
them that if they just hold on long enough the horse will be round! And
this is all sanctioned by the USDF and the FEI.
Yvon Hoogervorst When
the horse is over his back, engaging from behind and thus active, the
head and neck will be automatically on the vertical or slightly before
the vertical. With the same contact on the reins as if you were
stretching. That is what all the 'classical
trainings systems' pretending. In my opinion is A2R the ONLY classical
foundation method where it is practiced. All the other trainers are not
practicing what they're preaching so to speak.
So they
all are pulling or jerking on the reins (one more then the other) and
thus on the horses mouth. And, unfortunately, people don't know any
better these days. Thanks and kudos for A2R to open so many eyes.
Anne Saari What
a good question and it seems to me you got it all right. Most people
unfortunately don't. That is why we see so many broken down horses. It
is wonderful to read how you feel about this and how you train and ride
your horses, and you are the one doing
it correclty! No matter what eveybody else says. And just as you say,
not all horses need to develop all the way to full Collection. If you
want a happy trail horse that is sound and feel happy and Lovely to
ride, why should you push it to anything more than that. To me it sounds
like your horses have the perfect Life for them. If you ever need
support in your choices and training just turn to the Art2Ride Community
Emmeli Johansson I
think that art2ride are all about riding your horse in a frame and at
that level it is capable of and in a way that benefits the horse the
most. When your horse is strong enough to work in a collected frame (and
this take years of training) it will do
this effortlessly. If you need to pull and kick a horse into collection
all you will get is a false frame that in the end will destroy your
horse. It seems like you have very nice beginner friendly horses and
that you have a good eye for what is healty and not. But if you are
interested in learning more about art2ride please check out all the
Elisabeth Spetschinsky well
the basics for a competition horse or a leisure horse are the same in
fact, horses are better off when working through their back and engaging
their hind legs to support the weight of the rider. Correct dressage is
the work that will allow your horse to
use its body without getting injured, After that, depending on the
capacities of the horse, its looks and your plans for him you can do
whatever you like, be it dressage, jumping, eventing or hacking. The
basic training does not change according to your ends or objectives.
Thank you so much for these videos! I primarily showjump, and these videos have immensely increased my understanding of correct riding. I have a rather silly question to ask if you should have the time to answer it: Is it correct to raise and open your inside rein whenever you ask for a turn; or should you work towards using only your outside leg/rein to ask? I recently moved and thus switched barns, and my new trainer is teaching me to always raise/open the inside rein when turning, whereas my old trainer always taught me to leave the inside rein alone and only use my outside rein and leg to turn. Which way is correct?
Gabriela Tinnon The correct way to make a turn is to put your body in the position of
the turn, creating a channel through which you direct the horses energy.
Of course, this only works if your horse is correctly trained, so all
these other methods that you describe above are an attempt to ride a
horse that is incorrectly trained. As in the absurd concept in jumping
today when people are taught to make the horse take little short steps
in front of the jump to insure a distance. of course a horse jumping
like that is not round in the air over the fence so lands very hard on
the other side doing untold damage to it’s legs every time out.
ArttoRide Thank you so much for replying! That makes sense.
Hey will, question...I have just started working with this horse and riding him has been a dream, because i haven't been able to get on a trained horse and ask for some contact and have him actually respond. I feel him round the neck and lift the back, he is still just getting into work and it currently out of shape, and a tad bit over weight. He doesn't fight so much when i ask, and it feels nice in the trot, as well as the canter. He was started with clint anderson training, is what i am being told. He lives out in pasture, and doesn't really get used at all, maybe a beginner lesson once a week. He steps through pretty nicely, although he doesn't move as beautifully as this horse in the video he can get there. We are working on his ability to bend and respect my leg aids, he normally just runs from my aids, but im guessing that's because hes been out of work for so long. Just also doing basic carrot stretches after a workout is difficult for him, cant really reach to the hips. I want to start showing him in the spring, and to get him to move like this horse is my goal. So what really is the different between the way this horse moves, and how he would move in collection? What should i be feeling, and what exercises should i be doing? I love the exercises in this video, and will give them a try tomorrow when i ride him. Are these everyday rides, and what should i be focusing on most of all? Thanks so much!
Hi Will quick question on reins... I notice that when Legolas stretches down Amber still has enough rein to keep her hands at a normal level (as opposed to being at the buckle). Are these extra long reins? If so, do you recommend longer rein length for training?
I often have to adjust my hands and sort of "make do" when my horse stretches, sometimes holding the buckle in one hand to let him out fully.
timingisperfect We order the longest reins that you can buy. A little trick though that
I use at clinics all the time is to take a flash off a bridle and
buckle it between the reins, thus adding about a foot or more.
ArttoRide I have been having the same problem. My horse has a mile long neck and even at the buckle I have to get in almost a two point to let him out all the way. Ordered longer reins immediately after reading this! Thanks!
I added a flash strap to my reins and wow, what a difference! I thought my horse was doing a decent stretch already, but somehow he took up even more rein with the extra length. Like Kayla Kirsch mentioned, I didn't have to change my position to accommodate a stretch.
Hi Will, I love your videos i've just purchased a new horse (Australian Warmblood) and have started lunging and trying to get him to stretch down etc. I'll be sending a video submission through soon. Was wondering if you had any good advise on what to feed a horse to support building a top line?
Thanks :)
+MsRawsomeness Good quality food that is available in your area and the right amount.
Horse’s actually have pretty simply dietary needs, lot’s of roughage
and enough protein to build muscle. The main thing is that you have an
eye for how the food you give is affecting the horse, that is, is it too
fat, too thin, too much energy. I look at those things and adjust
accordingly.
Thanks Will :)
Ok so I have one question. Are you supposed to do the cue with your leg with the rhythm of the horse , like when you post? Or not that often?
+Hanna Collins
You would impulse the horse forward with your legs when ever you need to and completely relax them when you don’t.
huh I want a horse :( but sadly I won't get 1
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