Vintage V100 AFD PA RA DI 53 Unboxing - Slash Paradise City Stylings! (not Gibson Les Paul)
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Hey guys and gals! Here's Vintage Guitar's take on the Slash Appetite for Destruction Gibson Les Paul formula. Wilkinson hardware completes a stoutly build body. Check it out!
Hi, I'm a guitar builder and tech and have owned this guitar (earlier version) for about two plus years. Mine was a bit of a rats nest in the control cavity and the tuners needed changing as they do vibrate when playing. Apart from that this guitar is as good as a lot of the Gibson LP's that I've played. This is a very good guitar to buy and mod/upgrade. You wouldn't be disappointed buying one of these. Matt
I'm liking it so far. I need to open up the cavity and see what's it look like on this one. So far so good. No complaints on the tuners on this one so far.
I have the AFD Paradise. It’s the guitar I gravitate to most. My only comment is that changing pickups makes a huge difference. I put a Seymour Duncan Jazz Neck pickup on it and it transformed the sound - much fuller. I have a JB Bridge p/u to install too, but have yet to find time to do it. With some pickups that suit your taste, this is an even better guitar. If you can pick one up second hand, grab it.
Love that naked pickup look without the plate
Scarf joint on the neck is there near the 1st fret. Look closely and you’ll see it
UNBELIEVABLE WHAT THEY MADE FOR 500 EUROS! LOOKS STUNNING, SOUNDS GREAT!
hiya nick, think you're gonna like this guitar, had the lemon drop version and wish I'd never traded it, brilliant for the money and can hold their own against guitars twice the price
I'm psyched with it so far Henry. Very cool. I'm trying to get the kids to bed so I can put it through its paces!
so great you traded it....lol...it always amazes me that guys will tell me a certain guitar is so fucking great, but they traded it...lol suuuuuuure.
Vintage Guitars tend to be quite good for the money especially since you can find really cheap mint second hand ones here in Europe. Though it's a shame most of them are in a horrendous fake relic finish...
Yeah... inexpensive guitars with a fake relic usually look pretty awful.
I have the Vintage PGM Lemondrop and the Wilkinson pickups are great. Nice work all around with the Vintage brand. 🤘🏻
So far I'm quite impressed. Now I just need some time to play it!
4 years later, do you still have that guitar and are you satisfied? 😁🤘
@@myguitarcloud5987 yes I still have the guitar, it’s one I’ll keep hold of I think. It’s an original relic’d one from when they first brought out the Peter Green Gary Moore (PGM) I’ve heard that the quality of the Vintage lineup isn’t as good now though.
@@SanAndFe thank you for information! 🤗
I have the Vintage Lemon Drop. Great guitars. Their 52 tele style is a beauty too.
I haven't spent much time oogling their Teles yet. That's a rabbit hole I need to resist!
I had one of these before they started doing the little dip in the non cutaway side (so it looked even more like traditional LP). unfortunately had to let her go, but was a killer guitar. enjoy it man!
I did like that earlier style a bit more but such is the reality of Gibson's lawyers! I'm digging this one for sure!
The guitar looks really good and it sounds like you got a great deal on it. I look forward to the full review.
Thanks Dale! I got to play it a bunch last night and the pickups are a little too hot for the current height. I'm going to lower them as much as I can and see if that helps.
I hope lowering the pickup height works out for you.
yeah glad you got a vintage eventually my friend, I love these guitars and they are way better than Harley Benton, I would even say they beat some of the Gibsons, enjoy this beauty nick, I know you will.
"they are way better than Harley Benton"
I would say that's not really a fact, and just a matter of taste. I've played both the V100 AFD (and a few other Vintage models), and Harley Benton's version the SC-550, and I much preferred the Benton. The build quality, and hardware is very good on both, but I personally just like the feel of the Harley Bentons better, and I think they offer more bang for buck.
I would say the devil is in the details. I think the Wilkinson is made of better, snobbier materials. One piece neck, 2 piece center seam body. Not sure on pots and wiring yet but wouldn't be surprised to find full sized stuff in there. What's funny though is all of those things may not make it sound or play better than a 550. I do appreciate them being there though. I may try and get a 550 Lemon Drop and do a comparison.
I dig it so far for sure. It's a cool guitar and I really like the finish. I haven't gotten a chance to play it with my normal rig at medium volume yet to get a feel for the tones yet. SOON!
I guess I am gonna have to check out the Benton 550 then lol, but honestly my vintage is the best guitar I have played ever,
Vernon - Don't get me wrong, I thought the V100 was definitely a very nice LP for the money, definitely thought it had a nicer feel to it than for example, an Epiphone in the same price range, but I just love my SC-550. I'm playing it more than my $1000 Ibanez guitars atm.
Nick - you're probably right. When you get down to the nitty gritty, there's probably some more expensive features in the Vintage, but I very much agree that those don't necessarily mean it plays or sounds better. As I said above, I also own a two $1000 Ibanez's, and a $600 Michael Kelly, which are all fantastic guitars, but I've been playing the 550 more than any of them the past month. Take from that what you will.
I'm also seriously impressed with the Wilkinson stock pick ups that come with it (I'm assuming the V100 has the same ones?). I had a chance to take them through their paces, through a 100 watt Marshall JCM stack, and they absolutely roared. I'm probably not even going to bother swapping them out for Seymours. I think the only things I'd change are: I'd swap out the cheap plastic nut for a better material, and I'd possibly change the Wilkinson tuners for Grovers.
WOW, These have been out way before thomann started there hb brand & as you see is what they based some of there models off of. Im definately shocked you got 1 Nick !! I know myself I'd eyed there sg's in the past as they do like a sg standard style guitar for 1/2 the cost !!
I was strongly encouraged to by a few subs. Plus with the Pound being so weak relative to dollar I was able to buy this from England for only slightly more than a Harley Benton SC550... ($250 to me)
Nick in the States
WOW then thats a great deal for sure !!
Last time I was looking at the Vintage lp's & sg's a few years back, a goldtop version of this was around $600-700 canadian & I could get the sg's from out of town here in canada for around $560 canadian.
Yeah, and that's what you see the price on eBay today as well. I opened up my search to international sellers and found this one on the cheap cheap. They had another one for $75 more that didn't have the finish crack but man it's less than half a centimeter and just in the clear coat. I had to look for it to even know it was there.
Decent guitar, I dig everything but the zebra pickups, not a fan of them but I get the popularity of them. Cheers!!
Very similar to the Harley Benton. You should make a comparison video.
I may just do that... although I sold my 450- PLus. I want to buy the new Lemon drop 550 which would be a great one to compare.
Looks very similar to my SC550 Lemon Drop! I look forward to the comparison video, if it eventuates :)
Makes me wonder if they come from the same factory. Personally I've never owned a Vintage/Wilkinson guitar, but I heard some bad things about the quality and the very fake looking vintage aging - and they cost twice as much as their HB counterparts.
I wouldn't buy one of their aged ones... inexpensive aged guitars tend to look pretty fake. And it is very similar to the Bentons. I'm impressed with the guitar but I also got it for a steal. So my reaction to it might be different if I'd paid full price (double what I paid)
650Thunderbird Will be a little bit for that one... but it's on the list!
That would look killer diller with translucent black chrome parts.
I mean it already looks sweet, but even sweet can be improved and become awesome!!!
Jack
Canada
Sweet is good. Sweeter is better!
Nick in the States
As the three wise men, Larry, Curley, and Moe said -
Nice phylosifcatun, neyk, neyk, neyahhh!
Jack
Hey Nick, XYZ guitars sell Vintage brand and they are in the states. I have my eye on one of these, maybe now...cool video
Thanks man. I've had bunch of people suggest these over the last 18 months or so. I can see what the hype was about. Still getting a feel for the pickups but it's a pretty good deal.
Badass guitar Bro, great video
Thanks Daniel. Full review video is coming!
HEY NICK NICE LOOKING GUITAR. IT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE MY HARLEY BENTON SC-CUSTOM .THE SC -CUSTOM IS A VERY HEAVY GUITAR AS WELL.I THINK THAY ARE THE EXACT SAME GUITAR.IT HAS WILKOSON PACKAGE BUT WITH GROVER TUNNERS.TAKE A LOOK . THE SAME GUITAR I THINK.I'LL KEEP WATCHING FROM THE HOUSE OF HARLEYS.THX 4 THE REVIEW
It looks incredibly close to the SC450/550/Customs. I owned a very similar 450 Plus. Seems to be pretty darn close. It's heavier than the 450 I had... I still need to put it through its paces with anger to see what's she's made of. Plays really nice though.
Can you do a video of that. I'd really like to see you 'putting it through it's paces with anger'. That would be something !!
LOL I'll have a more in depth demo and some tones up in a couple of weeks. I want to get to know this thing first :-)
Looking at the neck again maybe it isnt a scarf joint, I can see a heal joint and what looks like a different central section so probably 3 piece neck.
Perhaps I got lucky with mine? Interesting though.
Yes, Ive noticed that a few makers are using 3 or even 5 piece necks now, Yamaha on their LL series acoustic have introduced a 5 ply neck, makes it very stable and rock solid platform.
I have as well. On one of my recent ones it has a 2 piece heel, three piece main shaft of the neck and then a scarf joint and a 1 piece headstock. so 5 pieces of wood by my count.
Your ring keeps clinking on the beautiful poly finish.
Vintage can make very nice guitars, I've had a very nice 'Baby Taylor' copy for about 10 years. All I have to do is learn to play.
You and me both!
Thank you for your vote of confidence! Anyway a number of vids should be coming up of myself doing a bit of work on my
Vintage.
Sweet, looking forward to them my friend. Judging by the initial response to this video the vids should be quite popular.
Best copy made since Japanese ibanez.most authentic Gibson neck profile. These were out long before the Harleys were. Jhs is a huge retailer in the UK and had great success with these so thomann from Germany said we can do that. Only the Paradise and jbm model have a real maple cap the others are veneers over mahogany. I bought a used one before the Paradise came out and I won't sell it. The neck feels like every 1960s Gibson,heritage I've ever owned. On stage no one can tell the difference in tone . I did put a gfs roller bridge on it though.
is that a Vintage V100GT hanging behind you? if so, I'd really like to know your opinion about it vs this AFD you're showing. which one is better in terms of sustain and brighter sound? thanks :)
nice! i've heard these are made in the same factory as the bentons ;)
I would definitely believe it. They seem to have a slightly nicer bit of woods and construction. Wouldn't surprise me if this was the premium to the Harley Benton standard. One piece neck, 2 piece body. stuff like that.
it's most likely a veneer. my Vintage SG junior is all veneered. the finishes on Vintages always look a bit plastic-ey and fake to me. I tried one of these AFDs in a local shop and as well as weighing a tonne it had a big cosmetic flaw where the neck meets the upper bout. gooped laquer that hadn't been applied properly. they hadn't even noticed and were charging £500 for it haha. I can't fault the necks and wood construction on these, but i've heard from a number of dealers the QC is shoddy!
Wouldn't surprise me... might be the nicest guitar coming out of an overseas factory. Those are the ones they struggle with. It's like the SC550 that I got a while back. Played well, sounded great but the QC and finish was just horrible. I got lucky with this one perhaps. Still haven't played it much through an amp though. That will come soon!
i guess that's where the extra money comes in. those lil details matter than we'd like to admit
Nice!!!!!! I hear they are better then the betons...
I had the vintage lemon drop v100 and it was pretty bad quality the frets were terrible
Think I asked about Vintage last week! The guitars seem to resemble bentons and I've been wondering if they were the same guitar with upgraded Wilkinson parts.
How do you like that service?!?!?! LOL It is made with higher quality woods and construction than a Benton. One piece neck, 2 piece center seam body. As I was replying to another comment it wouldn't surprise me if there was full size pots in there and perhaps not a box switch. I'll have to open her up and see. I'll make sure I include those details with the fuller play demo.
I actually just got mine yesterday. It has the same little crack as the one you described. Go a great deal on it so I didn’t mind. Did you have any other further issues with the small crack or did you do anything?
Hi,Made in.
what is the difference between this and the harley benton paradise amber
From best I can tell, slightly better woods (one piece neck vs multi in Benton, 2 piece center matched back vs 3 in Benton), slightly better electronics (full sized pots vs mini ones, potentially better caps) adn for me at least a better top. The SC-550 that I had was desperately lacking in quality on the execution of the top. This one is quite pretty. I did like the pickups in the 550 better though. These are super hot and dark sounding.
wow, in the photos they looked the same.... thanks for the answer =) greetings from spain
Do you think that the price difference is right? Which you suggest for an amateur? Thanks
I like the 3 pup SG
Thanks Jude! It's a Harley Benton that I got before they hanged the shape. I haven't played it nearly enough so I rotated it back into the close at hand ones on the wall.
Nick, how does this compare to your other Les Paul copies and are you still intending to get the Lemondrop version?
I'm working on getting a Lemon Drop SC550 Benton but I think this will be the only Vintage for a bit. It's been an expensive year! LOL
As to comparison I haven't had a chance to A/B the pickups with some of my other LP style guitars yet. I'm hoping to have some time these weekend to really put it through its paces. From a fit and finish and setup I'd say it's right up there. The pickups didn't immediately blow me away but I think that was more of the config of my rig that I plugged into more than anything.
Nick If I were you ,I would seriously consider buying the Vintage Lemon drop as its a step up from the paradise and their best Les Paul copy.
Tony smith very interesting. I'll check them out. I wasn't fully understanding the model hierarchy. Much appreciated!
Neck profile? Slim 60s or chunky?
Nick, very interesting. Do you know if anyone is selling them in the USA? How about the price range? I watched an interview with Trev Wilkinson last night. He was discussing an Encore S type guitar, the bottom of his line. It was pretty nice. This guitar pretty much says Harley Benton on a small dose of crack. Do you know if all the hardware is Wilkinson? That would make sense. D'Adarrio strings, where are they? Maybe Wilkinson is now selling strings? The fretboard looks exactly like my Harley Benton DC's. Cool. Great job.
There are a few shops on eBay that have them for about $450 give or take. You rarely see them for any less than that unless you look to the UK and have to have them ship here. By doing that I got this one for a steal... maybe $250 shipped to my door. Couldn't resist! The hardware is indeed all wilkinson. No D'Adarrios though! as if! LOL It definitely feels like an upmarket Benton. That's not an insult in my book!
Nick, I looked on Amazon after I commented last night. There were some Vintage guitars. You got a killer deal. Sweet! Can't wait for the review!
I need the V100 in Deep Red with mini humbs.
That is a great combination!
Nick in the States
have you downtuned the HB to Baritone yet? :)
LOL in all these months I still haven't!!! What's up my brother?
Nick in the States
all is well my friend. Working like a dog 15 hours a day. Finally bought a house for me and my girl and feeling exhausted.
You bloody heretic!!! Tune that weapon to B. lol. Hope all is well with you.
David congratulations on the house and living with the girl! That's awesome. My advice for you my friend is this. Learn the true meaning of compromise and you'll be happy. She wants a cat you want a dog. You compromise and get a cat 🐱 lol 😂 it's that simple! Are you still playing your Aerodyne?
I've been stupid enough to buy a Vintage Strat Summer of Love through the web:the Jimi Monterey design is awful in design, finish , and was just not playable at all. Stupid because I saw before a Vintage Telie which was horrible in design and finish to the point I just refused to test it. I spent time to make the strat playable. The only good thing was the Wilkinson pick ups worth a cheap GFS. So Vintage never again , they are twice the Benton price but not better or even worse! Nick, I suspect you receive selected models ? What do you think ?
In both cases I bought them off the rack. This one was from a shop in the UK. Very nice build and action. Pickups I haven't had a chance to really push yet. It is quite similar to somewhere between my SC450 Plus and the SC550 that I had. The materials (2 piece center seam back, 1 piece neck) are definitely a step up but I'm sure that wouldn't make any difference in the sound.
I'm not big enough of a channel to get many selected models... I could only wish! I actually buy most of my stuff anonymously and try to get a good enough deal that I can flip it after if I'm not in love with it.
Nick your version of the Paradise is definitely different from the one I own which I bought 4 months ago. I have the slot not the pin bridge adjustment, my neck has a scarf joint and my trussrod cover has Paradise written on it.
This does have a slot.. I kind of did a lousy job describing it. It's just a tiny slot on a pin vs a Benton which has the more typical large slot import style.
What is very much the same is the weight, the finish and the pickups.
Agreed for sure. Makes the Bentons seem like a steal!
I had a quick question about the finish on the guitar, Ive been interested in getting one of these but I really like the darker stained finish on it. reverb.com/item/3178980-vintage-guitars-v100afd-paradise-2016-flame-maple?gclid=CjwKEAiAoOvEBRDD25uyu9Lg9ycSJAD0cnByfSlG-WCVj4meqWIIwigpp4J25oju01w20zzAUKo4HhoCJSbw_wcB&pla=1 As can be seen in this one. How come they are different compared to the one in the video? Ive seen a lot of different finishes for it, some darker - some lighter. Is this because its a different model or something?
I think this company used to be encore.
Not sure... could be?
two separate companys
No, both brands of JHS, a big UK distro company. Encore's the low-end stuff without Wilkinson hardware and cheaper materials. Vintage is effectively tricked out Encore. Then about there there is Fret King far-east and Fret King UK-made, which up the specs again and has some cool and unusual original designs..
Makes sense. Thank you for explaining.
Any chance you can link in the shop you bought it from?
Should be here stores.ebay.com/Leviathan-Guitar-Company
Did it come with the strap locks?
Mine did not.
Kinsley Khoo Most don't. Sorry
How dare you not give Gibson all your money and your first new born child!!!! @.@
SORRY ABOUT HORRIBLE SPELLING.I DONT KNOW HOW 2 SPELL WILKINSON LOL
LOL no worries ma eye kan shpel bdly to
You just did mate. :-)
If you had to choose between this, Epiphone or Tokai?
Of the three that I typically play, I'll take my Epi LP Custom Pro over this. These pickups are rather dark. Vey well built though. With a pickups swap (or maybe some other adjustment) this could overtake it though. That Chinese Tokai is just a bit too small for me.
Nick in the States How is MK Patriod in this comparison They made in Korea?
That's the same color as my Chibson AFD. I guess cuza the weight, the one piece neck and the differant heel it's NOT a rebranded Benton! Maybe it's worth the extra hundred bucks. Man, did you get that thing at the crack of dawn or did they deliver it to ur work and ya went in after hours last night to get it?...ya did, didntcha?
LOL I went in at 2PM yesterday grabbed it and then went right back home! I just waited to drop it on the 'tube until this morning when I left for work.
Nick in the States thought so. Here's the latest on the Dylon one
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I believe these guitar's where out long before thomann came up with doing a house brand. If anything the HB's are probly rebrands of some of the vintage models. :)
Might very well be... or at least a slightly de-contented version.
I want one. Also nick does vintage make a triple pup SG style guitar?
I'm not sure. I don't see one on Thomann's site, but other vendors may have them.
ok. i did some searching on reverb earlier this morning and found that tokai makes one. i dont like it in black so i will have to refin it but thats ok.
Awesome man, good luck!
Where these guitars are made in?
Vietnam
nothing to do with sl(u)sh...
LOL Exactly!
Its NOT a Gibson
Does your wife play? Because my wife would explode if I was buying dozens of guitars like certain greedy giraffes do!!
In other words...HOW DARE YOU FLAUNT YOUR GUITAR GOL!!!
You'll pay for this insolence!!!
...actually...no, no you won't pay for anything let alone insolence...how would one actually put a real value on insolence, right?
I mean insolence is ethereal, anti--sentient yes?
You just can't put a price on some things.
BUT PAY YOU SHALL!!! Mwahahahaha!!
Jack
Canada
HAHAHAHA Actually she rather dislikes guitar. Her Dad and both her Brothers are players so it turned her off at an early age. She tolerates my obsession because I think she sorta likes me or perhaps realizes it could be a lot worse. I could be into crack! Or wear skinny jeans. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Nick in the States
I have an irritating, selfish n greedy wife, she luvs the thought of me in into crack!!...sigh
as for skinny jeans, nothing is as horrific, especially in a sober state on an empty stomach as Lemmy in Daisy Dukes!!
Hmmmph! ...Hmmmph! ...BEEE HARRFFF!
PEEE - HUGH - K!
Have yo seen this nightmare? Watch the Lemmy documentary and be sure to cellophane the entire house before hand, because a damned warehouse full of whiskey barrels will be very much insufficient to hold the contents of your stomach!!
I'll be nauseated for weeks just referring to the incident!!
BEEYULCK!!
Jack
Guitar is great, I own one but your playing makes me wanna puke
Really, that's the review: 'heavy', 'I need to go to the gym'... Is THAT how you evaluate a guitar? Pretty lame...
had a vintage and they are a piece of shit
It's funny, some people love them and some really don't. Weird phenomenon.