Tout est bon :) sauf pour ça "we went around maintaining 4000 well call you back" le pilote dit "on a remis les gazes" "we put the gas back on, we maintain 4000 and we call you back". felicitation pour le travail de la vidéo!
No you are right, the good translation is « we went around ». We put the gas back on is not aviation English and is wrong. No pilot would use such a wording in english. @pointe noire remettre les gaz se dit go around en anglais.
Moi je pense que tout va bien mais comme une autre personne la dit, remettre les gaz c’est « go around » mais on pourrait aussi dire « we are maintaining 4000 and we are going around » moi personnellement, je dirait ça mais toutes les autres options son bonne. Bravo!
Not so fast. That's why it's important wait for the investigation. They Just messed up the hole thing giving opposite imputs. Kudos to the engineers who projected a system to keep working dispite the most bizarre pilot mistakes.
The problem with speaking native languages while English is the official aviation language is that other pilots have no situational awareness of the emergency. See and avoid, voyez et eviter!
@@gurnish9741 In France (and maybe other countries). However, aviation is quite international, with people from all around the world being huddled together in a (sometimes) tight space and moving at high speeds. Accidents have happened in the past because of the insitance of local ATC to speak in their native language (not limited to France). When on frequency, speaking any language other than the one that is globally recognised as the main aviation language is needlessly inducing risk in a high stakes system. Thanks for listening to my TED Talk.
It appears the copilot made some unexpected inputs, which triggered to captain to take control ("I have control") and initiate a go around, thinking theplane was acting up but they kept acting on the commands both at the same time.
Not a pilot, but I'm betting the TOGA was activated multiple times becuase the pilots weren't getting the response they expected and didn't like the response they were getting. But I guess we'll see when they complete the investigation.
My guess as to why they didn't is that they seemed to have the situation under control relatively quickly. Whatever happened, it stopped happening so they could resume normal operations. Very interested to hear from the BEA on this one.
Long overnight flight. The ILS signal was blocked and the plane was off course so the person flying grabbed the yoke and was trying to fly with the autopilot on. Struggle is because of the fight with the autopilot active and is flying a different route.
ICAO requires that pilots operating international routes and air traffic controllers serving international airports and routes demonstrate proficiency in English. However, it's not a requirement that all crews and air traffic controllers must always speak in English.
@@aw6238 In Montreal, Canada the centre and tower controllers are bilingual and speak in English or French to different aircraft on the same frequency. Is quite interesting to listen to but doesn't seem to affect anything.
ICAO requires that pilots operating international routes and air traffic controllers serving international airports and routes demonstrate proficiency in English. However, it's not a requirement that all crews and air traffic controllers must always speak in English.
@@AirTrafficVisualised While that's true, it's unfortunate. It often helps with situational awareness to understand what is happening around you by monitoring ATC communications with flights in your immediate area.
@@Supatsu that's not reasonable given international pilots often fly to many countries. Everyone is made to learn English, so they should use it for consistency and situational awareness. Don't be an ass.
you need to demonstrate a proficiency to ignore english so that any potential problems on the intl channels can be amplified by uninformed 2d-3rd parties who have no fucking clue WTF is going on. when in doubt.... make matters worse
the problem isnt boeing.... the problem is this vast flood of pilots coming out of "cadet" programs with vastly fewer skills in their toolbox being faced with situations several levels above their training, completely out of their depth in "real" aviation......
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Tout est bon :) sauf pour ça "we went around maintaining 4000 well call you back" le pilote dit "on a remis les gazes" "we put the gas back on, we maintain 4000 and we call you back". felicitation pour le travail de la vidéo!
@Pointe Noire Merci beaucoup!
No you are right, the good translation is « we went around ». We put the gas back on is not aviation English and is wrong. No pilot would use such a wording in english. @pointe noire remettre les gaz se dit go around en anglais.
@@bayard42350 Oh OK XD sorry as I don't know the language in aviation
Moi je pense que tout va bien mais comme une autre personne la dit, remettre les gaz c’est « go around » mais on pourrait aussi dire « we are maintaining 4000 and we are going around » moi personnellement, je dirait ça mais toutes les autres options son bonne. Bravo!
I can’t compliment you enough on the graphics and presentation. Excellent work.
Those alarms always give me goosebumps when I hear them on ATC.
Wow... your video quality is getting better and better... I love this...
Bloody hell that was a bad situation. Bravo to the pilots for the quick reactions. Very curious what this ends up being.
Not so fast. That's why it's important wait for the investigation. They Just messed up the hole thing giving opposite imputs. Kudos to the engineers who projected a system to keep working dispite the most bizarre pilot mistakes.
It was completely pilot error.
Bravo to the pilots for not realising they were making mistakes. This was pilot error.
This channel is fantastic. The effort you are putting into this is very visible. Audio, visuals, etc. Keep it up!
Cheers, thanks for the kind words!
The problem with speaking native languages while English is the official aviation language is that other pilots have no situational awareness of the emergency. See and avoid, voyez et eviter!
French is also an aviation language, that's why it is also authorized
@@gurnish9741 In France (and maybe other countries). However, aviation is quite international, with people from all around the world being huddled together in a (sometimes) tight space and moving at high speeds.
Accidents have happened in the past because of the insitance of local ATC to speak in their native language (not limited to France). When on frequency, speaking any language other than the one that is globally recognised as the main aviation language is needlessly inducing risk in a high stakes system.
Thanks for listening to my TED Talk.
"I have control" ??? Never heard that once... Report shows they were fighting each other.
This was an accidentally key'd mic over ATC - the CVR recorded the captain eventually calling "I have control".
I can't wait to read the report from this incident.
Pilot error. It was released right before you posted.
@@Kalikus808 no it has not been published yet
Pilot error based on the preliminary report just released by BCA
I covered the update in this week's briefing: th-cam.com/video/AR3_BdaXgRk/w-d-xo.html
Sounds like a scary thing to have happen all of a sudden at such a critical time in the flight!!
It appears the copilot made some unexpected inputs, which triggered to captain to take control ("I have control") and initiate a go around, thinking theplane was acting up but they kept acting on the commands both at the same time.
Nice re-creation and awesome visuals!! 👍👍
Thanks a lot!
Not a pilot, but I'm betting the TOGA was activated multiple times becuase the pilots weren't getting the response they expected and didn't like the response they were getting. But I guess we'll see when they complete the investigation.
If I'm interpretting the number in the lower right hand corner of the radar signature correctly, did they actually drop down to 112kts at one point?!
That's correct, 113 knots ground speed. The lowest indicated airspeed was somewhere closer to 130 KIAS.
@@AirTrafficVisualised Gotcha. That makes sense now
Wow that ATC was serious! Surprised they didn't declare an emergency
My guess as to why they didn't is that they seemed to have the situation under control relatively quickly. Whatever happened, it stopped happening so they could resume normal operations. Very interested to hear from the BEA on this one.
"ILL CALL YOU BACK!"
Long overnight flight. The ILS signal was blocked and the plane was off course so the person flying grabbed the yoke and was trying to fly with the autopilot on. Struggle is because of the fight with the autopilot active and is flying a different route.
Autopilot should deactivate after a certain amount of input.
Interesting theory. How does an ILS signal get blocked? I know nothing about these things.
Wrong. Pilots were fighting each other. Autopilot disconnects when pilot inputs are detected in Boeing.
Why are they communicating in France?
In France, you can speak French on the radio. Many countries are doing the same.
@@ericgirardet1848 Didn’t know that, thanks. Must be quite annoying for non France speaking pilots though…
ICAO requires that pilots operating international routes and air traffic controllers serving international airports and routes demonstrate proficiency in English. However, it's not a requirement that all crews and air traffic controllers must always speak in English.
@@aw6238 In Montreal, Canada the centre and tower controllers are bilingual and speak in English or French to different aircraft on the same frequency. Is quite interesting to listen to but doesn't seem to affect anything.
@@aw6238 " Must be quite annoying for non 'France' speaking pilots though" why on earth would it be annoying?
Shouldn't this ATC and crew be speaking English so other crews listening to the ATC channel can understand?
I thought English was the language of aviation
ICAO requires that pilots operating international routes and air traffic controllers serving international airports and routes demonstrate proficiency in English. However, it's not a requirement that all crews and air traffic controllers must always speak in English.
@@AirTrafficVisualised While that's true, it's unfortunate. It often helps with situational awareness to understand what is happening around you by monitoring ATC communications with flights in your immediate area.
@@johnathancorgan3994
guess its time to learn to local language the same way everyone else was forced to learn yours???
@@Supatsu that's not reasonable given international pilots often fly to many countries. Everyone is made to learn English, so they should use it for consistency and situational awareness. Don't be an ass.
you need to demonstrate a proficiency to ignore english so that any potential problems on the intl channels can be amplified by uninformed 2d-3rd parties who have no fucking clue WTF is going on. when in doubt.... make matters worse
Another boeing thingy?
the problem isnt boeing.... the problem is this vast flood of pilots coming out of "cadet" programs with vastly fewer skills in their toolbox being faced with situations several levels above their training, completely out of their depth in "real" aviation......
It's been confirmed as pilot error. No problem at all with the plane.
Just a French thingy :)