It's really too bad the CIH quit making the Cyclo. They were a good, simple planter and could always be easily rebuilt. I've got a 12 row 950 and it produces as good a crop or even better than my neighbors who all have $100,000 JD planters. Granted, a 950 is vast improvement over the 400, but all Cyclos really were up to the job and the 400 was far ahead of it's time.
Great planter... Still use one today. I have designed a bolt-on kit to put pneumatic down pressure on the ol' cyclos if anybody is interested. You can see a couple videos of it on my channel. Hard to beat these planters for the money you can pick one up for.
They may not have been great for a "picket fence" stand of corn, but they're great for crops that don't need perfect spacing. I'm a deere guy, but I'd take one for a bean/sorghum planter.
Worst thing case-ih did was get rid of the air planter. Had someone tell me once how to plant corn, crack a beer set it on the fender if beer falls of your driving too fast
They got rid of it? Wow. I guess it was too simple for them to sell more parts that could wear out. If the Cyclo Airs were anything like their tractors from that era it would last forever by taking care of it. You'd think with innovation like this and the Axial Flow they could have survived anything. But given they overproduced during the 70's and the really bad farm economy during the 70's and 80's it was tough to survive.
I bet lol. Dad held out until '92 when he finally had to get a job which he hated-but it saved him. During the 80's most of our stuff was from the 50's. We still have our M and 856 (which Dad traded his 706 for.) He still picked corn with a two row IH picker we'd attach to the M. Cash rents the crop ground now and we sold all the pigs in '94. We still raise beef battle and still use the M to small round bale with the old AC 'Roto-baler'. Dad treated himself a couple of years ago when he retired by getting the 1086 he always wanted.
Tom Servo Yep ,we farmed in Australia bloody tough there ,one ton per acre of corn was a good crop and the price hovered around $130.00 a ton for thirty years , we had Inters from the thirties all maintained well .
My father was in a similar sales video for this planter. The IH dealer put it on for me when we were in for parts. I remember his name being shown on the screen, attesting to the number of different kinds of seed he could use it for. I was hoping it was this video. Any chance you would have more of them?
Tragic that such an innovative company with such a loyal customer base went bankrupt a few years later. Perhaps as a company they were too honest and made things too well to succeed in the modern cutthroat corporate world of build cheap, sell high. Fewer moving parts with this and the Axial Flow combine-sounds like they were legitimately trying to help the farmer.
Their first screw up was the 560 with a weak final drive. Cost them a lot of money. Then the 2+2 came along. Mostly though it was just plain mismanagement and top heavy with white collar jobs and high wages.
@@davidyoung9195 The 560 was a leap with higher torque inline-6 diesel motors that no one else really got serious about at that time. Yes, they should have tested more. My IH grandpa was visiting his in-laws one day in 1960. They kept going on about how great their new Deere 4010 was with the diesel. Grandpa said "Why so excited about the diesel? IH has been using them for years while you still chugged along with your 2-cylinder poppers." Once they straightened out the teething problems with the 560 (that IH paid to have upgraded final drives in) it set the pace for the bullet proof '06, '56', '66 series. Their diesels were very efficient. Dad has an 856 he got when I was 3 and I'm 42 now that he's never touched the engine in. It must have somewhere around 15,000 hours and still doesn't use oil.
You’re correct they did pay for the upgrades on the 560 but it was very costly and nearly bankrupted them. The 06, 56, 66, and 86 series were fantastic tractors and very durable and popular. The 2+2 was a good enough tractor but never really caught on. The truck division of IH had it’s successes and failures just as the ag division did. The construction division also had its successes and failures. But mainly the failure of IH was from mismanagement.
IH Truck division sales fell by 60 percent in the 79-82 recession. That torpedoed the company as an entity. Sure they had some problems but their Ag division was coming back big time with the Axial flow and other stuff. Sure their management was not the best but if the company was not so massive it would have made it. Too bad because they were great innovators.
IHC lost the race when JD came out with the 30 series tractors with the Soundgard cabs. The jump in technology that JD showed put all other manufacturers on the defensive. Also, IHC tractors were clumsy compared to the JD models. Shifting problems and poor ergonomics cost the dearly.
I use a IH Cyclo 500 to plant my sweet corn each year. Great video as I learn more.
A guy that lives about 10 miles from me still uses one of these today. Thanks for the video.
Used to use a 6 row of this. Thanks, brings back some memories.
It's really too bad the CIH quit making the Cyclo. They were a good, simple planter and could always be easily rebuilt. I've got a 12 row 950 and it produces as good a crop or even better than my neighbors who all have $100,000 JD planters. Granted, a 950 is vast improvement over the 400, but all Cyclos really were up to the job and the 400 was far ahead of it's time.
The first Cyclos I ever saw were on dealer lot when going to Denver in the early 70's I was about 14 years old...
Great planter... Still use one today. I have designed a bolt-on kit to put pneumatic down pressure on the ol' cyclos if anybody is interested. You can see a couple videos of it on my channel. Hard to beat these planters for the money you can pick one up for.
They may not have been great for a "picket fence" stand of corn, but they're great for crops that don't need perfect spacing. I'm a deere guy, but I'd take one for a bean/sorghum planter.
Worst thing case-ih did was get rid of the air planter. Had someone tell me once how to plant corn, crack a beer set it on the fender if beer falls of your driving too fast
They got rid of it? Wow. I guess it was too simple for them to sell more parts that could wear out. If the Cyclo Airs were anything like their tractors from that era it would last forever by taking care of it. You'd think with innovation like this and the Axial Flow they could have survived anything. But given they overproduced during the 70's and the really bad farm economy during the 70's and 80's it was tough to survive.
Haha my Dad was too poor for anything new. 'New' for us was the 60's era 4-row he bought in the '80's. That was a good IH planter though.
I bet lol. Dad held out until '92 when he finally had to get a job which he hated-but it saved him. During the 80's most of our stuff was from the 50's. We still have our M and 856 (which Dad traded his 706 for.) He still picked corn with a two row IH picker we'd attach to the M. Cash rents the crop ground now and we sold all the pigs in '94. We still raise beef battle and still use the M to small round bale with the old AC 'Roto-baler'. Dad treated himself a couple of years ago when he retired by getting the 1086 he always wanted.
Tom Servo Yep ,we farmed in Australia bloody tough there ,one ton per acre of corn was a good crop and the price hovered around $130.00 a ton for thirty years , we had Inters from the thirties all maintained well .
My father was in a similar sales video for this planter. The IH dealer put it on for me when we were in for parts. I remember his name being shown on the screen, attesting to the number of different kinds of seed he could use it for. I was hoping it was this video. Any chance you would have more of them?
Tragic that such an innovative company with such a loyal customer base went bankrupt a few years later. Perhaps as a company they were too honest and made things too well to succeed in the modern cutthroat corporate world of build cheap, sell high. Fewer moving parts with this and the Axial Flow combine-sounds like they were legitimately trying to help the farmer.
It was idiots in management not being hardline enough in union negotiations they agreed to easily to union demands..
Their first screw up was the 560 with a weak final drive. Cost them a lot of money. Then the 2+2 came along. Mostly though it was just plain mismanagement and top heavy with white collar jobs and high wages.
@@davidyoung9195 The 560 was a leap with higher torque inline-6 diesel motors that no one else really got serious about at that time. Yes, they should have tested more. My IH grandpa was visiting his in-laws one day in 1960. They kept going on about how great their new Deere 4010 was with the diesel. Grandpa said "Why so excited about the diesel? IH has been using them for years while you still chugged along with your 2-cylinder poppers." Once they straightened out the teething problems with the 560 (that IH paid to have upgraded final drives in) it set the pace for the bullet proof '06, '56', '66 series. Their diesels were very efficient. Dad has an 856 he got when I was 3 and I'm 42 now that he's never touched the engine in. It must have somewhere around 15,000 hours and still doesn't use oil.
You’re correct they did pay for the upgrades on the 560 but it was very costly and nearly bankrupted them. The 06, 56, 66, and 86 series were fantastic tractors and very durable and popular. The 2+2 was a good enough tractor but never really caught on. The truck division of IH had it’s successes and failures just as the ag division did. The construction division also had its successes and failures. But mainly the failure of IH was from mismanagement.
IH Truck division sales fell by 60 percent in the 79-82 recession. That torpedoed the company as an entity. Sure they had some problems but their Ag division was coming back big time with the Axial flow and other stuff. Sure their management was not the best but if the company was not so massive it would have made it. Too bad because they were great innovators.
Where did you get the ih promo film??
That one I found in an antique shop.
My clock still says it's 11:30, I'm so confused.
IHC lost the race when JD came out with the 30 series tractors with the Soundgard cabs. The jump in technology that JD showed put all other manufacturers on the defensive. Also, IHC tractors were clumsy compared to the JD models. Shifting problems and poor ergonomics cost the dearly.