I can relate quite a lot to Sven. Former Blackhawk instructor pilot here (medevac, air assault, flight school instruction), turned airline pilot (A319/320/321) and occasional Star Citizen TH-camr. I left the military for similar reasons to Sven - it's a tough life, especially for the families. It really is amazing how close simulators are getting to the real thing. I actually used Fenix Sims A320 addon for MSFS as a study aide during my airline training. My first flight in the jet felt like a higher resolution version of the sims I had been piloting. Oh btw, Sven missed gear up because his first officer (Noobifier) didn't call "positive rate" :D.
dude this is so aweome. the fact he has his ipad loaded, etc, is just crazy good. editing this halfway thru the vid to say this is amazing. well done, sir.
This is incredible. The realism is insane. I can't believe how realistic games and simulators have become in my short lifetime. Thank you so much for this series, N00b!
Wow, my Dad was a nav in AWACS at Tinker at the same time Sven was active there. Pretty sure he's flown missions with this guy. Thanks for sharing this, Noob!
Flown into SD many times as a passenger, watched planes avoid the garage from the ground too, visually spot on. Was able to identify the CG station and MCRD as well. Nice sim.
This is a great series; it's fun to get real pilot feedback of these games, especially first-time experiences. I also enjoy hearing about the sim rigs, in case my kids ever buy me one for Christmas!
I came into the middle of the video but as soon as you said "might actually see that parking garage" I knew you were landing in KSDO to the west! It's a memorable IRL experience.
Great video, thanks for your efforts in this one Noobifier and Sven. Hopefully you don't mind me saying (if this is meant to be an ad for Thrustmaster), but I personally prefer Honeycomb's Alpha and Bravo controls, especially for the latter's dedicated trim wheel which adds a lot of additional realism when flying GA planes. This looks like a great value kit focused more towards flying commercial jets, but for a PPL training aid I'm glad I went with the Honeycomb Bravo to fly predominantly in the Cessna 152. Those pedals look like a really good option though, as I'm still flying without any dedicated rudder/brake/steering controls, which obviously isn't ideal. Tempting!
It may be something you've researched already, but I highly recommend 1) adding a transducer or transducers to your setup and 2) getting a Simshaker license (inexpensive) to introduce haptic feedback and greatly increase immersion. I have a Buttkicker brand transducer attached to my office chair and, with Simshaker converting the telemetry of the game to force feedback, I can physically feel my landing gear, turbulence, underspeed/stalling, bumps in the runway, etc. It has made a big difference in my overall experience over the last year or so and it will continue to be a permanent part of my setup.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 Wow, that's fantastic. My comment was in reaction to the pilot initially not noticing the landing gear state. Great video alongside your previous helo pilot one.
Damn. This was great. I don’t play flight simulator because it’s actually a daunting task and I didn’t have the time to put into it. Learning def felt like a 2nd job lol. Must be amazing to be able to actually pilot it like your guest did!
First of all..please don't think of them as games..they are learning tools.. the military has been using sims for decades. You can get into Simulation for less than 400 dollars. and there all sorts of information on the net to get started. I have been Simming for over thirty years. And it never gets old. I don't fish or golf. or. stare at tv all day..but I can go fly simmimg ( jets helicopters..boats ..trains submarines tanks..racecars..etc)..anytime....
@@larrysouthern5098 which is why I said its a daunting task to learn lol. I have a direct drive racing sim rig already which is easier to manage since I already have my driver's license, but learning to fly is def way more difficult. def agree with you as well, great learning tools for those that want to invest the time and effort!
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Flight motion simulation is such a different beast. Great video and a great explanation.
I mostly use VR now, but I also have a 49" curved monitor dedicated to the outside view, and two smaller monitors below it for the instrument panels (if I'm not using VR). That would solve the issue he's having with trying to get a good sight picture AND good instrumentation. My thumbnail pic is the real G1000 in the actual Cessna I fly, not my sim. These videos with actual pilots are worth their weight in gold! Thoroughly enjoyed every minute in the right seat. 😂
What I really would love to know from a professional pilot is the answer to this question I've had for a long time now: I've watched a show that dealt with air accidents and documented the investigations by the NTSB and other internatioal analogues, and I often heard investigators say something to the effect that "Pilot was spacially disoriented and didn't know how the plane was oriented", which to me sounded pretty unbelievable... granted, I've only ever been in real airplanes as a passenger, but from my point of view, no matter if I sat fore, close to the cockpit, midsection or aft, I could always precisely tell whether the plane was banking to the left or to the right, or in fact flying level. So the big question is: Was is just a bunch of "shifting blame" BS when it was claimed that a pilot couldn't know how his plane was oriented, or is the sensation in the cockpit regarding your inner ear and "butt-meter", significantly muted as compared to passengers' experience? Can a pilot seriously not tell by body-feel/-reaction alone whether his plane is currently banking to port or starboard, whether it's pitching down or up? To me, that sounds unbelievable, but then again, I've never been in any cockpit other than a Cessna myself.
Not drama at all. Spatial disorientation is VERY real and it can bite even seasoned pilots and have killed many. My only real experience with it is during training exercises with a flight instructor. I was wearing foggles (view limiting goggles) as he flew various maneuvers, sometimes with my eyes closed. This allows you to experience the false sensations you get from lack of a horizon and visual references (such as in clouds, fog or pitch-black nights). You have to trust your instruments, because your body/butt/inner ear signals to the brain will tell you something completely different. Crazy to feel like you're climbing, descending or banking when you're actually not. OR to feel like you're banking when you're flying straight. That's a great question by the way. 24 year Private Pilot, 30 plus year Sim pilot 😉
I fly in MSFS with VR, some vibration haptics and a simple motion platform ( NLR V3 ). I actively avoid clouds, because I fly VFR, but mainly because it always ends badly. It gets real scary, real fast. The inputs you put into the controls are wildy exaggerated, or just the opposite of what you should do. Even keeping your eyes fixated on the instruments will not help you that much if there is turbulence as well, because it will induce motion, and you cannot tell whether it’s internally or externally induced. The longer it lasts, the more you start to sweat, breathe heavy, and basically lose any effectiveness as a pilot. Now add in some rough terrain and it becomes a nightmare.
Hey, that's my home airport! I know the exact Parking Structure he's talking about, haha! There's also a hill with a bunch of houses there, right on the glide path. Just a crazy approach.
Glad an actual pilot noticed the cursed autopilot coming from xp it seems like MSFS autopilot only works like 2/10 flights every other time you are fighting it
I think if you the vr screen matching the pilots dominant eye (dewarped) it would be easier to see then showing it the way you have. I spent quite a bit of time figuring out how to live stream well in IL2 while in VR and it's totally possible.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 hrm .. "usually not" .. but there might be a chance that they're nearby at some time. Both of them are commercial pilots. Even if one of them (mentour pilot) is more of an instructor using a set of real life passenger airplane simulators...... that's why i came to this idea. ;) 74(7) Gear (edit: to make it clear) is more of an commercial plane/passenger/cargo pilot, flying the really huge ones.....Look them up on youtube.... i bet, they will find time to have some fun on your (let's call it "professional amateur") sim setup. ;)
I call it IRON SHARPING IRON...Sims are. a great way to stay current.. And it's fun too!!! This gentlemen is the Kung Fu master of flight simming and he flys real aircraft..that gives him credibility thank you sir!!! GREAT VIDEO!!!
Thanks for sharing this. Great to see a real pilots point of view. Been using MS flight sims since the 90's. It's getting better and better constantly. I remember the days of telling myself, "I can't wait until it looks real". ... We're almost there! NOTE - if you do this a few times, you'll never go back to Star Citizen, lol
As always, I love your setup, and videos like this are really cool! Have you considered trying a bezel remover kit? I know they're made for 27' monitors but people have figured out how to make them fit on their large format screens like yours. Here's one with someone talking about how they made it work on their 65" triple setup: th-cam.com/video/8PwO7crVPFc/w-d-xo.html
Can I get a link to the simulation chair can't seem to find it anywhere and want to buy one EU
Best Sim System Ever? - The $30k - QS S25 Qubic
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I can relate quite a lot to Sven. Former Blackhawk instructor pilot here (medevac, air assault, flight school instruction), turned airline pilot (A319/320/321) and occasional Star Citizen TH-camr. I left the military for similar reasons to Sven - it's a tough life, especially for the families. It really is amazing how close simulators are getting to the real thing. I actually used Fenix Sims A320 addon for MSFS as a study aide during my airline training. My first flight in the jet felt like a higher resolution version of the sims I had been piloting. Oh btw, Sven missed gear up because his first officer (Noobifier) didn't call "positive rate" :D.
Jup, the positive rate call is a great help! (damn that ProfCheck a while ago) Solo flying a airliner is strange when u used to flying in a team.
dude this is so aweome. the fact he has his ipad loaded, etc, is just crazy good.
editing this halfway thru the vid to say this is amazing. well done, sir.
This is incredible. The realism is insane. I can't believe how realistic games and simulators have become in my short lifetime. Thank you so much for this series, N00b!
Thanks, so much fun to work on this one.
Former C-17 pilot here, seeing all the Boeing controls, and flying over my home town... brings back the feels!
Wow, my Dad was a nav in AWACS at Tinker at the same time Sven was active there. Pretty sure he's flown missions with this guy. Thanks for sharing this, Noob!
I flew a lot of missions with Sven!
Flown into SD many times as a passenger, watched planes avoid the garage from the ground too, visually spot on. Was able to identify the CG station and MCRD as well. Nice sim.
Fascinating vid Noob, thanks for making it!
This is a great series; it's fun to get real pilot feedback of these games, especially first-time experiences. I also enjoy hearing about the sim rigs, in case my kids ever buy me one for Christmas!
Glad you enjoy
I came into the middle of the video but as soon as you said "might actually see that parking garage" I knew you were landing in KSDO to the west! It's a memorable IRL experience.
Great video, thanks for your efforts in this one Noobifier and Sven. Hopefully you don't mind me saying (if this is meant to be an ad for Thrustmaster), but I personally prefer Honeycomb's Alpha and Bravo controls, especially for the latter's dedicated trim wheel which adds a lot of additional realism when flying GA planes. This looks like a great value kit focused more towards flying commercial jets, but for a PPL training aid I'm glad I went with the Honeycomb Bravo to fly predominantly in the Cessna 152. Those pedals look like a really good option though, as I'm still flying without any dedicated rudder/brake/steering controls, which obviously isn't ideal. Tempting!
Interesting format, and educational. Good to know the reactions from an IRL pilot on the flight simulator.
Another great "pro in the chair" video! Now you just need to find a RCAF Hornet Pilot to do some DCS 😁
another great video very insightful
It may be something you've researched already, but I highly recommend 1) adding a transducer or transducers to your setup and 2) getting a Simshaker license (inexpensive) to introduce haptic feedback and greatly increase immersion.
I have a Buttkicker brand transducer attached to my office chair and, with Simshaker converting the telemetry of the game to force feedback, I can physically feel my landing gear, turbulence, underspeed/stalling, bumps in the runway, etc.
It has made a big difference in my overall experience over the last year or so and it will continue to be a permanent part of my setup.
The motion system has 6 linear actuators. The entire thing is a transducer.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 Wow, that's fantastic. My comment was in reaction to the pilot initially not noticing the landing gear state. Great video alongside your previous helo pilot one.
This like I was telling you is so awesome to see.
Have it the controls and the understanding of them is crazy fun learning.
This was amazing to watch.
Thank you Sven
Damn. This was great. I don’t play flight simulator because it’s actually a daunting task and I didn’t have the time to put into it. Learning def felt like a 2nd job lol. Must be amazing to be able to actually pilot it like your guest did!
First of all..please don't think of them as games..they are learning tools.. the military has been using sims for decades. You can get into Simulation for less than 400 dollars. and there all sorts of information on the net to get started. I have been Simming for over thirty years. And it never gets old. I don't fish or golf. or. stare at tv all day..but I can go fly simmimg ( jets helicopters..boats ..trains submarines tanks..racecars..etc)..anytime....
@@larrysouthern5098 which is why I said its a daunting task to learn lol. I have a direct drive racing sim rig already which is easier to manage since I already have my driver's license, but learning to fly is def way more difficult. def agree with you as well, great learning tools for those that want to invest the time and effort!
Flight motion simulation is such a different beast. Great video and a great explanation.
Fun to watch!
I mostly use VR now, but I also have a 49" curved monitor dedicated to the outside view, and two smaller monitors below it for the instrument panels (if I'm not using VR). That would solve the issue he's having with trying to get a good sight picture AND good instrumentation. My thumbnail pic is the real G1000 in the actual Cessna I fly, not my sim.
These videos with actual pilots are worth their weight in gold! Thoroughly enjoyed every minute in the right seat. 😂
Awsome video Mr Noob 💪
Always entertaining!
What I really would love to know from a professional pilot is the answer to this question I've had for a long time now:
I've watched a show that dealt with air accidents and documented the investigations by the NTSB and other internatioal analogues, and I often heard investigators say something to the effect that "Pilot was spacially disoriented and didn't know how the plane was oriented", which to me sounded pretty unbelievable... granted, I've only ever been in real airplanes as a passenger, but from my point of view, no matter if I sat fore, close to the cockpit, midsection or aft, I could always precisely tell whether the plane was banking to the left or to the right, or in fact flying level.
So the big question is:
Was is just a bunch of "shifting blame" BS when it was claimed that a pilot couldn't know how his plane was oriented, or is the sensation in the cockpit regarding your inner ear and "butt-meter", significantly muted as compared to passengers' experience?
Can a pilot seriously not tell by body-feel/-reaction alone whether his plane is currently banking to port or starboard, whether it's pitching down or up?
To me, that sounds unbelievable, but then again, I've never been in any cockpit other than a Cessna myself.
Perhaps that was just a bunch of extra drama added by the TV show to make things seem more interesting.
Not drama at all. Spatial disorientation is VERY real and it can bite even seasoned pilots and have killed many. My only real experience with it is during training exercises with a flight instructor. I was wearing foggles (view limiting goggles) as he flew various maneuvers, sometimes with my eyes closed. This allows you to experience the false sensations you get from lack of a horizon and visual references (such as in clouds, fog or pitch-black nights). You have to trust your instruments, because your body/butt/inner ear signals to the brain will tell you something completely different. Crazy to feel like you're climbing, descending or banking when you're actually not. OR to feel like you're banking when you're flying straight. That's a great question by the way.
24 year Private Pilot, 30 plus year Sim pilot 😉
I fly in MSFS with VR, some vibration haptics and a simple motion platform ( NLR V3 ).
I actively avoid clouds, because I fly VFR, but mainly because it always ends badly. It gets real scary, real fast. The inputs you put into the controls are wildy exaggerated, or just the opposite of what you should do. Even keeping your eyes fixated on the instruments will not help you that much if there is turbulence as well, because it will induce motion, and you cannot tell whether it’s internally or externally induced.
The longer it lasts, the more you start to sweat, breathe heavy, and basically lose any effectiveness as a pilot.
Now add in some rough terrain and it becomes a nightmare.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
MS Flight Sim does not support a headtraker? That would help with the view problem the pilot brought up at the 30min mark. Curious.
Real experience!!! That's the stuff!!
you made Sven's day. he had alot of fun
Woo hoo I can't wait for a Q&A on flight sim setups
Hey, that's my home airport! I know the exact Parking Structure he's talking about, haha! There's also a hill with a bunch of houses there, right on the glide path. Just a crazy approach.
Glad an actual pilot noticed the cursed autopilot coming from xp it seems like MSFS autopilot only works like 2/10 flights every other time you are fighting it
About as exciting as watching grass grow
Very very very expensive set up. Looks cool.
Microsoft Flight Sim 2020's autopilot is notorious for trying to crash planes unfortunately.
Unfortunately, ALL flight simulators do this, no one has been able to figure it out.
Basically building this to keep myself current during PATA, Virpil needs to hurry up on backorders! 🤣
It’s true
Looking forward to some DCS world stuff then 👍 My current compensation for bad SC progress.
You and me both! I’m playing Farm Simulator
As a FedEx pilot that's probably the first time in a long time he flew with the sun up!
next new channel: "Noobifier flight academy" ;-P
Real Farmer, Fake Farm
@@NOOBIFIER1337 Real Astronaut, Fake Spacecraft?
Awesome!
please do this series with a Drake Corsair, I'd love to hear from the real operators of that craft
WUT?
@@NOOBIFIER1337 🏴☠
I think if you the vr screen matching the pilots dominant eye (dewarped) it would be easier to see then showing it the way you have. I spent quite a bit of time figuring out how to live stream well in IL2 while in VR and it's totally possible.
I feel this worked better.
a FIFTY-TWO minute noobifier video??? How can this be???
You maybe should invite Mentour Pilot and 74 Gear to your sim setup and ask them about it. ;)
Are they in Ottawa?
@@NOOBIFIER1337 hrm .. "usually not" .. but there might be a chance that they're nearby at some time. Both of them are commercial pilots. Even if one of them (mentour pilot) is more of an instructor using a set of real life passenger airplane simulators...... that's why i came to this idea. ;)
74(7) Gear (edit: to make it clear) is more of an commercial plane/passenger/cargo pilot, flying the really huge ones.....Look them up on youtube.... i bet, they will find time to have some fun on your (let's call it "professional amateur") sim setup. ;)
Microsoft Bug simulator (Landing gear!...Landing gear!...Landing gear!...Landing gear!...)
I call it IRON SHARPING IRON...Sims are. a great way to stay current..
And it's fun too!!!
This gentlemen is the Kung Fu master of flight simming and he flys real aircraft..that gives him credibility thank you sir!!!
GREAT VIDEO!!!
Impressive
Would be interested in seeing the 6DOF platform while playing Star Citizen - how well it works, how it feels, etc. Particularly in dog fighting :)
Unfortunately, the developers would need to code this, just like VR or joystick support.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 That makes sense - have you heard anyone mention it? I wonder if it could be a fan made mod?
@@sicantreis without telemetry…. I don’t know what anyone could do.
Thanks for sharing this. Great to see a real pilots point of view. Been using MS flight sims since the 90's. It's getting better and better constantly.
I remember the days of telling myself, "I can't wait until it looks real". ... We're almost there!
NOTE - if you do this a few times, you'll never go back to Star Citizen, lol
As always, I love your setup, and videos like this are really cool!
Have you considered trying a bezel remover kit? I know they're made for 27' monitors but people have figured out how to make them fit on their large format screens like yours. Here's one with someone talking about how they made it work on their 65" triple setup: th-cam.com/video/8PwO7crVPFc/w-d-xo.html
Hi N00b, can you do a condensed version?
This is already that
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WEEOO!!!
Are you a text to speech AI?
do real airplane fake pilot
Forgot the gear jesus christ.