Forgotten Fly - Joe's Panther (from Herter's 1941 Fly Tying)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- A largely forgotten fly from George Herter's "Professional Fly Tying, Spinning and Tackle Making" from 1941, Joe's Panther is a unique streamer that is certainly a fun one to tie.
Hook: #6-10 streamer
Thread: Black
Tail: Red wool
Body: White yarn
Hackle: Yellow
Wing: Peacock sword fibers
** Some of the popular books used on this channel: **
Fly Pattern Encyclopedia: amzn.to/34U0rUe
Mike Valla's "Tying the Founding Flies," 2015, amzn.to/354oSir
Valla's "Tying and Fishing Bucktails..." 2016, amzn.to/3Jg2Mys
Valla's "Tying Catskill-Style Dry Flies," 2020, amzn.to/3DmYOjJ
Valla's "Classic Streamer Fly Box," 2020, amzn.to/3n3Vakf
Dave Hughes, "Essential Trout Flies," 2017, amzn.to/3lbCZYX
Hughes, "Nymphs for Streams and Stillwaters," amzn.to/3HC2jpc
Hughes, "Wet Flies," 2015, amzn.to/33ac3lQ
David Klausmeyer's "Favorite Flies," 2020, amzn.to/3oeSNMa
Randle Scott Stetzer's "Flies, the Best One Thousand," amzn.to/34Q15mp
Terry Hellekson's "Popular Fly Patterns," 1976, amzn.to/2L4IyvS
Dick Stewart's, "Flies for Bass and Panfish," 1992, amzn.to/3aGpFs1
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Love to drink coffee while watching your videos.
Timothy- I just did the drawing and congrats, this comment came up the winner! Send me an email with your mailing address and I'll get them in the mail to you. matt@savageflies.com
Timothy- send me an email! I've got the mugs ready to ship to you. 🙂
My father discovered this pattern in the mid 60's and I've taken brook trout on it from Nova Scotia to Patagonia. It is one of the best brook trout patterns I've ever used.
Good morning Matt, i enjoy my morning Coffee watching your
video 's. I have the Herters book, Joe's Panther page page 142, was invented by George Herter in 1962 and named after Joseph Herter.
Love the history in books like this.
Morning COFFEE with forgotten flies. Very nice!
These mugs would be great for my morning camp Coffee.
Coffee, tying flies, and catching fish are three of my favorite things.
I'm with you there Mike!
I love those older fly patterns you tie. And, as a kid, I would spend hours browsing the Herter's catalog with my Dad. You sure triggered some fond memories. As always, thanks for taking the time to produce your channel.
i did the same with my Dad,Remenber the Herter ,s sheath knife for 3 dollars,Still have my Dads.
Well you're most welcome and I appreciate the kind words my friend. It is nice to be reminded of the fond memories of our youth. Tying and fishing does that for me too. :-)
I think coffee is stronger than my fly tying ability currently, but your videos have been helping me level up my fishing game. Thanks Matt
Sunday morning coffee, cool jazz and watching a fly tying from Savage flies.
Cool jazz! I love it Jim. I'm a 40s swing music guy myself. :-)
A new coffee cup would be a perfect addition to my tying station .
I join the ranks of morning coffee and fly tying videos
Good morning Matt ,i love a great cup of coffee while watching fly tying.
You know it Butch! Thanks for watching my friend. :-)
Some blues on the stereo, coffee in the mug, and a Savage Flies video on TH-cam. That's what I call relaxing on Sundy!
Hahaha! Yes indeed Ed. I could get into some good blues sitting at the bench. :-)
Saturday morning with Wyoming snow covering the creeks and lakes just drinking coffee and dreaming of trout attacking that streamer in the spring lakes.Thank you Matt,really like the streamer series.
Well I appreciate that Fred! Good luck my friend. :-)
Gotta have the flash. Love Flys invented by the tyer. I rarely follow patterns. Maybe because I had the old books as a kid. Creativity and catchability always intrigued me. Making up a fly that catches is priceless. Tight lines!
I've been teaching the kids next door. How to tie flies and wet fly fishing is and this looks like a good fly to show them real easy but with just enough techniques to make it a little challenging for a newbie.
I don’t ever get enough of coffee or your videos. Mega Thx Matt
hahaha! I appreciate that. Thanks for watching my friend. :-)
Nice job Matt. Cool pattern too I’m not a coffee drinker but I like the mugs. Thanks for the video.
You're welcome David! And good luck my friend. :-)
Thanks Matt for all you do for our sport! Personally you have given me dozens of ideas for time spent at the bench. I like to experiment quite a bit and through my hip surgery and recovery time I have enjoyed every fly tutorial. I could never repay you for helping me through this last year. So cheers with a fresh cup of coffee, wishing you all the best my friend.
Wow Mark, thank you for these kind words. That means a lot for me to hear. And I appreciate you my friend, for always watching and commenting. :-)
Thanks for sharing, Matt. I'm not a coffee drinker but love hot chocolate. I remember the old Herter's catalog. Good to see part of it living on.
That's a cool one!!! Thanks for tying! Enjoy your morning coffee
Great start to Sunday morning. Cup of coffee & a Savage Fly video. Maybe 2
Nice fly Matt. The mug looks like it would keep my coffee warm for a long time. Thanks.
I appreciate it Mel! Thanks for watching my friend. :-)
Just finished making some coffee before watching the Forgotten Fly. Another great video..
Well I appreciate that Roger! Thanks for watching my friend. :-)
Coffee!! Having a cup while watching your video. Another fun one too.
I enjoy watching your videos with my morning coffee
Appreciate that! Thanks for watching my friend. :-)
ok i don’t drink coffee these days but i did enjoy watching you tie this unusual pattern.
Well I appreciate the note! Thanks for watching my friend. :-)
Enjoyed the video with my coffee this morning. Would love to see you fishing these flies more.
Another one for my list, have blessed Sunday my friend.
Great streamer, Herter's was the only outfit for materials when I started tying in 1958. Thanks for the good videos I watch for each new one an review the older ones frequently. Coffee. Hope for the cups. Jim Willis
Wow, thank you for this great comment Jim! I love hearing from the veterans who've been tying for decades. I appreciate it my friend.
Really like this pattern. It's simple but looks amazing!
Nice " coffee " mugs also.
Well thank you Michael! Thanks for watching my friend. :-)
As I sit here drinking coffee from my one Savage Flies' mug... 😂. Great pattern Matt.
Haha! I hope Florida is still treating you well brother. :-)
I have just started tying flies again. I think this is one that I can tie. And if you have another coffee cup left I hear coffee and tying flies go well together. Lol
I enjoy your videos when I am having my morning coffee. Keep up the great work.
Thank you! And good luck my friend. :-)
just long enough to enjoy a proper cuppa coffee; another home run Matt, thanks
Well thank you! I appreciate the note my friend. :-)
I think I'll make a cup of coffee and look for that book. Another great video!
Good looking fly love watching your videos with a good cup of coffee
Matt, great fly. I just relocated to Michigan and enjoy my morning coffee!
I'm going to try this fly tomorrow morning while I have my coffee!
Gonna grab a cup of coffee and give this one a shot. Thanks for the inspiration!
Streamers are the bomb here. Love this one. Thx Matt
Appreciate it Clyde!
I slacked this winter at tying. Right now would be a good time for some new coffee mugs to sip some inspiration while I tie up some fish snacks! Always a good view with your videos, Matt.
Hahaha! Thank you Matthew! And good luck my friend. :-)
Very cool old fly. Love the historic ones. I watch all the videos because the tying is as much a hobby as the fishing. So I don't mind a couple of streamers in a row at all. Keep them coming!
Well I appreciate this note Troy! Thanks for always watching my friend. :-)
Matt, you came in clutch with the video! I just sat down in the office with my breakfast! Tight lines my friend! 😎🎣
Well thank you! And you too my friend. :-)
As usual your video is great to watch while I enjoy my morning cigar and coffee.
Thank you Mike! And good luck my friend. :-)
we'll have to disagree - one of the best books you can have. It is not like the fancy-schmantzy books we're accustomed to, that is true. And Herter was a real character, But the book is filled with info every angler should know.
You did a great job, and the coffee mug is awesome
I love it Matt. The bass in my local park's lake love yellow streamers. I'll tie this one while drinking a cup of coffee. Cheers!
Not much of a coffee drink but I do enjoy hot tea as I tie my flies! Matt, nice pattern and video!
Appreciate it Earl! Thanks for watching my friend. :-)
Hey Matt, working on a box of flies from your list of old and forgotten patterns to try this summer exclusively on a trip. Don't drink coffee but warm tea is good.
Best way to start off my Sunday, great fly video and a cup of coffee. Thanks for the new pattern to add to my box!
You're welcome Dean! And good luck my friend. :-)
Matt, thank you for another wonderful Fly Tying video, and for you giving away the 2 COFFEE mugs. I also think it fits with the name of this fly"Joes Panther", since some people use the term "a cup of Joe." Anyhow, thanks again, have a wonderful day, and God Bless you all !
I didn't even think of that double meaning Wayne. But I wish I had! Maybe we should come up with a fly and call it the "Cup of Joe." :-)
Morning matt enjoy your videos with a cup of coffee in the morning. I have the 1961 edition of that book. It is interesting. Tks for posting 😊
I think mine is too Burt. I'm guessing the plates didn't change much between printings so I was only assuming this streamer was in the original 1941 version. But I'll bet it was.
Coffee. I like ur in depth videos. The history behind the fly is a good thing. Coffee.
Well thank you Alec! And good luck my friend. :-)
Hi Matt. Streamers are my favorite to fish and tie. I think this one could use eyes.
Now back to my coffee.
You know it Frank! Thanks for watching my friend. :-)
Love the colors on this fly. it should be a great fish catcher
Definitely need to try this one out with a big cup of coffee
Thanks for the video, Matt
You know it Dave! Thanks for watching my friend. :-)
Sure could use a cup of Coffee. Been watching fly tying videos most of the afternoon. 😂
Cool to hear! Thanks for watching my friend. :-)
I like your streamers videos. I don’t fish them enough. I’ll have to give them a try when I get soft water. Right now I will sit down with my Coffee and tie a few with black saddle and white sword
Good morning Matt. I have found streamers very effective. My winter flies early in the mornings. For some reason the browns love it. I will tie a few of these up and give it a shot.
Enjoying this video with my morning COFFEE. Seems like Ive mede this streamer before for bream in a smaller version. I like your teaching style; subscribed. Thanks.
Nice fly. My dad used to shop at Herters in Beaver Dam WI...... after he had his coffee.
Hahaha! And good luck my friend. :-)
Thanks matt streamers are an important part of fly fishing I got my dubbing teaser for ice cream joe delivered it the house even coffee
I'm with you there Daniel! Thank you! And good luck my friend. :-)
One thing I love to do is read in the morning and when I'm reading my fly books I enjoy a nice black cup of coffee ! ☕️
Appreciate it Alex! Thanks for watching my friend. :-)
After a cup of coffee, I get to tying flies.
Your streamer videos are better than a cup of Coffee.
Hahaha! Thank you! And good luck my friend. :-)
Thanks Matt. I'm going to look for that Herter's book. I have a collection of pre-war tying tools and materials. Probably should get a book to go with the collection! Nice coffee Mugs!
I think you'd like this book! Mine is actually a 7th printing of it, so not an original 1941, but probably printed in the 60s. I'm thinking of grabbing another copy as the color plates in mine are a little worn out and I'd like to get a spare copy that I could cut the pages out and frame some of them. They're small pages, but really pretty cool looking.
That Panther looks like a morning bed head that needs that cup of coffee....ha ha...Great tie Matt.
Hahaha! Thank you Michael. :-)
Good morning ☕️☕️
You would be proud of me, I have been throwing some streamers lately. No takes, but it is winter and spring is around the corner. Hope all is well with you and the family😉
Jim!! I am proud. :-) We just got back from the three-day weekend at the farm. No fishing as the mornings were in the low 20s and I'm not that dedicated. Watching movies beside the wood burning stove was a nice relaxing weekend though. Getting ready for late March though. I've got to sit down and figure out the best campground. Will let you know soonest. Hope ya'll are doing well!
Great looking fly. Maybe Joe didn’t drink coffee and thats why he was a panther. Keep up the great videos, Matt.
Hahaha! Yeah, who was this Joe guy??? We'll probably never know. :-)
“I don’t know who Joe was or why he had a panther…” Classic line! Maybe Joe drank coffee?
Herter lives on ......😊
Good morning Matt. Coffee on the desert while watching a streamer video, life is good. Those old streamers are fun to tie. Not sure if they’ll be fished or not but they look nice. Well at least the ones that you and a few others I’ve seen tie. Mine… well let’s just say they are a “fishable fly”. Take care Matt and have a great week.
Haha! I am so far behind in comments John, I don't think I'm ever going to catch up. But I may give it a try this weekend. Hope all is well in the desert. :-)
I watched this excellent video while I drank my coffee.
Thank you David! And good luck my friend. :-)
I love to sit back and drink a good cup of coffee while watching your videos. These coffee mugs would make the experience even better.
Well I appreciate that Mike! Thanks for watching my friend. :-)
I was having my Sunday morning coffee and watching you tie. Great classic streamer. Thanks, Matt.
Almost enjoy coffee while watching a Savage Fly being tied. Thanks Matt for another great fly.
Thank you! And good luck my friend. :-)
Thank you for your videos, and inspiration in my tying journey!!!! Though I don't drink as much COFFEE, as I used to, having one(I would just need one to save the postage and then pass the other to another) for tea or hot drinks around the camp site!!
You're most welcome! I certainly appreciate you watching my friend. :-)
I really enjoy watching your instructional videos with my morning coffee.
I am making coffee as I am watching your videos every time. Keep up the great videos👍
This is an easy one. I always have a cup of coffee at the fly desk. I may tie a few of these and try them for steelhead.
Thank you Dennis! And good luck my friend. :-)
Coffee! Drinking some this morning while I watch your demonstration of fly tying skill! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Matt, a nice pattern, although I just never have confidence in flies such as this
I need to get over it and drink more coffee
I'm sitting here watching this video with a nice cup of coffee. Could use a new mug. Thanks!
Well good luck to you Brady!
I really enjoy your videos with my mug of coffee in the mornings. Thanks Matt
Thank you Greg! And good luck my friend. :-)
Your videos are always a welcomed treat. Love coffee and would cherish those mugs. Thanks for the fun.
Thank you Ralph! And good luck my friend. :-)
I enjoy watching you tie flies Matt, I have learned a lot. I also enjoy drinking coffee. Thanks Matt. 👌
Thank you Jim! And good luck my friend. :-)
My name is Joe, and I drink too much coffee But I can't watch enough streamer videos. Good find Matt. Yes, sort of Alexander-ish. Yellow dyed grizzly for the Panther's body hackle and some orange fibers for the tail and the same for a throat would make a good perch imitation. One I like even more is the Frenzy. Tied as a wet fly, like McPhail did, it's a good perch fry imitation. He has a good technique for tying the peacock sword wing too. Thanks Matt!
OMG, the Frenzy is a great looking fly- and a great name! I just searched and see Davie's video. From 8 years ago. Now I'm going to have to watch it. Just got back from a long weekend at the farm. No fishing- morning temps in the low 20s. I'm getting too old to freeze my tail off not catching anything. I can not catch anything from my couch beside the wood stove. :-)
@SavageFlies sounds good Matt. 6° here, nothing but frozen fish sticks 😋
I would love to drink a cup of coffee with Matt
Another great fly. Gonna go see if I can dig up my peacock sword and give it a shot. Also, very cool coffee mugs.
Well thank you Sean! Appreciate the note my friend. :-)
I enjoy drinking coffee while watching your videos
Thank you! And good luck my friend. :-)
I love coffee, I don’t have this book but will look for it.
G’morning Matt. I haven’t heard of this streamer before, so it’s not forgotten by me and I’d love a cup of coffee from one of those nice mugs. Can’t wait to win them! C u next video.
That's a streamer I can see getting the job done. My bench definitely could use a new COFFEE mug...or two!
I hear you Jim! And good luck my friend. :-)
Great as always. I’m going to have to get one of those Orvis popsicle sticks!Probably have to wait until it’s on sale, though…
Hahaha! I actually use that thing all the time. I think I got both the adhesive Velcro tabs and Popsicle sticks at Walmart. :-)
Savage Flys + Coffee! ❤ life!
Well thank you Casey! Hope you're doing well my friend. :-)
Coffee and fly tying can't beat it
I hear you Dale! And good luck my friend. :-)
I actually really like Streamers. When you come up with an old fly tying book I always search the title with pdf at the end. And nine times out of ten somewhere there is a free pdf. So I get to read a cool book from back in the day for free.
Yes! I do that too Ricky!! But when it looks like a cool one that I might actually want a hard copy, I'll search used on Amazon or Ebay. Sometimes Abe Books has some hard-to-find ones as well. One other way to find cool books is to look in the back of a modern book, like any of Mike Valla's, and he might have hundreds of books in his bibliography. I've found several lesser known books that way. :-)
I watch your vids while drinking a big mug of strong black coffee!
Thank you! And good luck my friend. :-)
Awesome video been busy now playing catch up lol ! I personally dont drink coffee I drink tea or hot chocolate! Lol Tight lines!!
i drink lots of coffee while tying some flies. i think that fly looked better with the longer tail
I really like streamers nothing like watching a big fish come up n grab it 😊 n coffee is a must
Yes indeed Brian! And good luck my friend. :-)