They are both islanders almost one in the same. I would say that no joke that liquor would give Haku that extra umpff. He is naturally strong but when he's drunk & gets going, there is no stopping him until he stops
@@ForeverRetro31 All islanders in general are refered to as Samoans and to be fair a lot of them have played "samoans" much like Lance Von Erich is a "Von Erich"
Pacific Islander are tough breed. Samoan,Tongan,Hawaiian,New Zealand,Fijian. There massive and gentle, respectful. Once you push the button, better learned how to fight or else you’ll get smash.
Loved Scott Steiner before He transitioned his character into BPP. He had some amazing wrestling abilities & techniques. Him & Scott were an affordable Tag Team. Probably top 10 all time.
He had to. When he was young he was incredibly athletic. The Frankensteiner was amazing for a guy his size. Then he got injured and couldn't wrestle that way anymore. Creating the BPP character was a genius way to continue his career and it worked.
Mick Foley says he saw on a board that he was in a tag match against the Steiner Brothers. He says its the only time he ever thought of quiting wrestling. Falling through & being thrown off the Hell in a Cell cage, no big deal. But wrestling the Steiners is more frightening.
Steiner Brothers are my fav tag team, and their moves were awesome, but if you think about it, that’s not really good. Yeah, there are some wrestlers who have a stiff style, but others should never be afraid of working with them. That’s why Bret Hart is still the best. He was realistic without hurting anyone.
The Steiners and a few other WCW guys at that time were notorious for taking liberties with people, especially the enhancement talent who may not be able to do everything they wanted.
He's right about them Samoans. Had a sergeant in the Army who would take his boots off on 12 mile ruck marches. Said they were uncomfortable. He'd also drink a case of beer and act totally fine.
Went to same highschool as Scott and Rick. Same church. The gym has a ton of their wrestling banners/records. Although their actual last name is reichareinter
1:10 Don Frye was one of the toughest fighters around; best known for his famous PRIDE match with Takiyama where they hockey-punched each other over and over like there was no tomorrow.
They both became close friends after that match. Total respect for each other. Frye even went to visit Takayama in the hospital after he was paralyzed from spinal injury after landing on his head in a wrestling event.
I trained with the NFL Noga Brothers in da 80's. The Samoans feel no pain and they;re all power 200%. The most loyal friends and your worse nightmare. Stay on their good side. /word.
THE STEINER BROTHERS WERE ONE OF THE BEST TAG TEAMS EVER AND IN SINGLES AS WELL BIG POPPA PUMPS YOUR HOOK UO HOLLA IF YOU HEAR ME THE BIG BAD BOOTY DADDY 😊
Prime 275lb Haku, had excellent balance from his days as a Sumo in Japan. MAYBE Scott has a CHANCE to get him down using his amateur skills - note that Rick never beat John Tenta in any of their dressing room wrestling competitions. How is Scott going to stop a frenzied Haku from sticking his fingers in his eyes, crushing his testicles. biting his throat, fish-hooking his mouth ? Wrestling only works when there's rules, and the other person follows those rules.
Love the steiners ❤ never forgot scotts shoot on WCW about Flair 😮 he was incredible 😲 his matches along with Rick vs Luger and Sting are legendary 👌 BPP was the man. Now we have another Steiner, Bron Brekker 😊
Talking about tough. Meng and Barbarian, Steiner Brothers and Road Warriors were my tough tag team picks. Steiner's vs Road Warriors on Nitro had a ton of stiff shots. Just made the match so much better.
Haku and Barbarian won’t come out and say cause that’s how us Tongans are. We don’t brag and deflect glory to others. We’re not interested in that. We just wanna have fun and enjoy each others friendship. No need to brag or prove anything as you notice in Meng’s interviews. #TokoUso
After hearing about some of Haku and Harley Race's real fighting techniques I can see why the original UFC made eye gouging the only illegal thing in "no holds barred" competition.
I do have to say that when I trained in mma (started with boxing then muay thai and bjj) and I noticed right off the bat that the guys who had an amateur wrestling background took to mma like a fish to water and dominated all of us in the class. In hindsight I wish I would have took up wrestling when i was in at least jr high or high school but I was too focused on football and powerlifting. Then in my late teens i realized being strong would only get you so far against a trained fighter so I took up boxing for self defense reasons then after I saw UFC 1 i was hooked and switched to a school that offered bjj on tuesdays and thursday and muay thai on mondays and wednesdays. The first time I was taken to the ground and off of my feet I panicked and of course got destroyed by guys who had been grappling since they were kids. It took me a long time to get comfortable groundfighting and even then I wasnt that great and could barely hold my own for a short time. Sprawling became my best friend and even then I still would eventually get my ass handed to me😂
Wrestlers dominate in the UFC because UFC are made for them. In other promotions (one fc) they can elbow the wrestler head instead of watch how he double legs them and position them instead of getting cut
@carlosgaleotegandara7812 one doesn't have the same quality of wrestlers as the ufc. good stand up but that's really it. Plus the weight divisions are all screwed up
@@carlosgaleotegandara7812 If I were doubled-legged, I'd worry about sprawling and regaining my base than attempting a precision strike to the face. Don't forget wrestlers used to be even more dominant in the early days, where there were less rules. Wrestlers could cruise by knowing zero submission b/c you could ground n' pound w/headbutts and knees to the heads of grounded opponents. Bas Rutten, a dutch kickboxer, admitted as such regarding training his student, Mark Kerr.
I think he was just equating vey tough guys around his era that were in the ufc/mma… and had an amateur wrestling background… And how guys still to this day in mma… and at the top of the sport have some type of a wrestling background.. And…. How tough many many amateur wrestlers are.. But definitely get your point… lol. Non of those names were even close to modern mma. I thought he was thinking of Randy Couture or Chuck Liddell when he couldn’t think of the name.. both big names.. and a bit more modern then the others named…. And he comes back with Don Frye.. Who is awesome and a pioneer… but not exactly modern in mma
@@mmafan8407 Rick mentioned Bart Gunn too. Guys like Steve Blackman, Savio Vega, Scorpio and The Godfather all looked like much better fighters than Hawk in the BFA.
Being tough will only get you more punishment against a skilled athlete.In the Pridefc days some of the contestants are tough pro wrestlers and they all ended up getting beat up and eventually koed by the real fighters.
I suspect Haku would win in a street fight and Lesnar would win in a wrestling match. In a MMA match, it could go either way. There are stories about Haku knocking people out, but depending on the rules, Lesnar may have the edge.
@@megavolt67 this dream match has been brought up A LOT. And most debaters agreed on the rule set determining the winner. For me however, I'd pick Lesnar. Lesnar defeated some of the best fighters in the world. Haku only beat up drunken idiots in bars. Big difference in competition. And don't think Brock can't fight dirty if need be. There's many stories of dirty fighting in the amateur ranks. Ever hear of illegal technique, "oil checker?" Might want to google that as it comes up every season LOL Also Cheal Sonnen told a story of Matt Lindland once intentionally breaking his opponent's fingers in a sanctioned match. Lindland almost died b/c he pissed off the entire Russian wrestling team for that incident. Off this tangent, I'm trying to say it's better to have sport skill and have street fighting to fall back on, than solely relying on dirty fighting and have no legit training base.
Haku would destroy Lesnar and you can ask any Samoan and Tongan wrestlers...He was no joke..He took a bunch of 300 pound man down in St Louis..He was crazy tough..
I’d take the steiners against haku and barbarian. They might’ve been tough guys but that shit goes out the window when you’re taken down and can’t get up.
Im sure in his heyday that scotty steiner feared absolutely no one...however there were plenty of 150lb guys around who would make him cry tears of blood The Gracies, Sakuraba, etc...
There's no doubt the Gracie's or sakuraba are tough and strong and all that, but there's just no possible way they could beat guys like haku or Scott Steiner or guys like bresner, the couldn't even apply their holds in them
I don't know about that. Maybe back when BJJ was fairly unknown outside of Brazil and under the old UFC rule set, which was basically the Gracie rules. Royce did catch Dan Severn in a triangle choke, and Severn is the closest thing to Steiner's contemporary. At the same time, it did take like 15 minutes, and Severn was in control for all of it until the end, even if he didn't bother attempting much. As for Sakuraba, he was trained in catch as catch can and basically a blown up 185'er even in his prime. He destroyed a lot of the mystique behind the Gracie family, and was in turn destroyed by Wanderlei Silva, a roided to the gills muay thai and bare knuckles fighter.
@@dunnono00 Pride Wandy was 205 lbs. so Saku was fighting up one weight class (185 lbs). Wand also was familiar w/BJJ, he just used it defensively (he preferred Muay Thai.) Wanderlei's BJJ came up in his first bout vs Mirko Cro-Cop, which ended a time limit draw but Wanderlei was winning on points. Sakuraba was a grappling savant, who beat all other grappling savants (Gracies.) But he was still one-dimensional and frankly got screwed over by being forced to fight opponents 1 (light heavyweight) or 2 (heavyweight) weight classes above him. Tangent: Saku's mentor, Nobuhiko Takada, was embarrassed that his former student performed better than him so Takada used his political power to book unfair matches for his ex-subordinate, to sabotage his career. Takada was involved in many shady things, including a fixed fight vs Mark Coleman and a brawl where Takada begged Enson Inoue for help but refused to thank him after he helped out.
Too say wrestling is the most impossible thing in mma as top fighters have wrestlers backgrounds is nonsense. Most amateur wrestlers go into wwe or mma as they have no other avenues. However for a sport like boxing, no top boxer in there prime has gone into mma just lower level. So if the amount of top boxers as top wrestling went into mma, you would see difference championship
To summarize your word salad, "pro boxing pays better than mma - hence we don't see many high level boxers in mma." However a few have tried (James Toney and Butterbean) and lost convincingly to names unknown comparatively to them (I'm not calling Randy Couture and Genki Sudo "randoms" but they don't have boxer fame.) If you analyze what we've seen so far, sport for sport, boxers have no ground options so they lose instantly on the ground. Boxers also have no takedown defense (if they did, they'd be hybrid fighters and not pure boxers.) Also, the best boxers in the world cannot stop a simple clinch, performed by another boxer. Imagine trying to stop a wrestler from wrestling you when you can't even prevent a boxer (who is wearing boxing gloves) from wrestling you? I admit I am biased b/c I've done BJJ for 2 decades and have gotten rag-dolled by wrestlers w/no submission skills... but wrestling techniques just seem to override all other skill sets presented in mma gyms. AND wrestlers have the best fitness in martial arts. Just what I've noticed over the years.
@@kevthegoat8774 Faster doesn't necessarily mean he'll destroy anyone, experience counts more then speed, and to say "destroy" is a bold thing to say, you probably don't know much about Scott or Rick Steiner and their background in wrestling and fighting
@@aliamjon2550 Lashley had a better wrestling background than both Steiners as did other wrestlers such as Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, Sylvester Terkay, Craig Pittman, Danny Hodge etc Lashley also has training in striking and BJJ which would be the difference when they are on the ground.
Watch Hawk in the Brawl For All against Droz, he was 41 years old slugging it out with a former NFL player but his punching technique wasn't the best, Bart Gunn would have knocked out any version of Hawk.
Watch Bart vs Bradshaw his stand up was brutal as well, stiff, straight up, they all suck at boxing! lol Im saying go out back lets see who comes back in the bar tough@@kevthegoat8774
Hawk was not just 41 years old but was also coming off a decade of serious substance abuse problems so his reflexes and his strikes were practically gone but he still fought an NFL Player to a draw. People like Rick Steiner have put Hawk in their list of legit toughest wrestlers and their opinion is worth a million times more than yours or mine.
When I worked for the WWF/WWE just the 1 time! In my 11 year career As a Local Working Stage Hand So about 1 week Before the WWF/WWE came To Saskatoon Canada & about 100 of us Were about to start working What's called The IN & I over heard That the WWF/WWE is coming In about 1 week So I walked over to me boss Rudy H & I asked my boss Rudy Who is one great boss He let's me do whatever! Cause I was no slacker! So I got to many lil extras Here & there So Rudy no Ross! I know what you're gonna say But! I already have 12 guys! Who already asked So I said to Rudy I said Well how many men? Do you actually need! So Rudy says I only need 8 So I can't use you Ross! So I said You asked for me To work as 1 of up to 150 Local Concert Working Crew & you also added me! On my very 1st day! Cause you were so happy w me & in how hard I worked You liked that I'd nudge much bigger men Out of me way & how I things done! + you added me As 1 of only 8 Local Concert Show Call Stage Hand Working Crew! On me 1st day! +! You also made me! The Local Concert Working Drum Tech as well! Soooo you are wrong! You only need! 7 Local Concert Working Crew! Cause I'm working the WWF/WWE show &! I'll do it! For free!! & w that On that morning A week later Some character backs a panel van Into the concrete floor area I immediately knew Who Jim Korderas When I spotted him So I walked on over & I introduced myself & said something like Like I always do! I said If you need anything! A vacuum A hammer A tool Or you just need something done right! The 1st time! Then just ask me As the other's are just Local Working Crew & they are a lil limited On what they do & w their Working Stage Hand knowledge So w that I made an immediate deal! With Jim Korderas The Referee! Haha As he was pitch hitting For the ring man Who he told me Was sick So we made a cool deal Where I got The very last 2! WWF Local Crew Passes that he had & the very 1st 2! WWE Local Crew Passes That were in a big bundle & early that evening When I had a minute I bought 1 t-shirt! It was the best 1! & by chance To my amazement! It was only a mere $10.00 t-shirt So Eeehaaaaaaaaa! Now the fact That I only had $10.00 Is not the reason Why I bought it! Haha I was just extra lucky! Guess who's it was?! Haha & that t-shirt Was a Scott Steiner T-Shirt! I hand picked it! As I was told That we weren't gonna be getting A WWF/WWE Local Crew T-Shirt As I've always being a fan! & when we were erecting the ring 1 stage at a time A few of us 8 We took turns Attempting to lift a turn buckle post As it takes 2 men To load just 1 turnbuckle post Onto an extra heavy duty! Hand pull trailer/flat deck cart & man! Are they heavyy! & I did the best & w that I only got it Like 3'' Off! Of the concrete floor But I did lift the 2 pieces of Corner Turnbuckle Stairs Over me head & James also gave me 2 extra ring ropes Cause he was so impressed! With me a doing Exactly what I said I would! & that was me! A doing! James job! As he sat back & watched Kinda! Haaaa! Haha ML&RAlways 😇😁
Scott Steiner has mellowed out a great deal since being retired for so many years.
No more roids, no more rage.
He's still wrestling
@Romulan2469 or the fact he's getting older as 99% of humans do in there 60s mellow down
@@kwakuasare316 Yes age is a factor, and he can't be doing roids at that age especially after he almost died of a heart attack not so long ago.
It's cause of him developing those FAT-ASSES 😂😂
Steiner’s mathematics tutorial is up there as one of the best promos ever!
One of the best promos ever! I still go to that when I need a laugh.
CLASSIC!!!
Lmao
A super legit tough guy Scott Steiner says "Haku and Barbarian are on top of the food chain".
Ron Simmons to they didn't mess with him
Yea they know 😂
I heard the quote, Tongans are like Samoans on steroids. Haku had the full skill set; wrestling and striking.
They are both islanders almost one in the same. I would say that no joke that liquor would give Haku that extra umpff. He is naturally strong but when he's drunk & gets going, there is no stopping him until he stops
So did barbarian.
We loved the Steiner Bros, Haku and Barb, and The Skyskrappers.
“It’s hard to find a Samoan that isn’t tough, they’re a different breed of cats” when Scott says you’re tough, you’re tougher than Wang leather
They’re Tongan. 🇹🇴
@@ForeverRetro31 All islanders in general are refered to as Samoans and to be fair a lot of them have played "samoans" much like Lance Von Erich is a "Von Erich"
Pacific Islander are tough breed. Samoan,Tongan,Hawaiian,New Zealand,Fijian. There massive and gentle, respectful. Once you push the button, better learned how to fight or else you’ll get smash.
@@OoopDereItIz Tongans are on another level.
They ain’t on another level. All Pacific Islanders are the same. I grew up with Samoan & Tongans.
Loved Scott Steiner before He transitioned his character into BPP. He had some amazing wrestling abilities & techniques. Him & Scott were an affordable Tag Team. Probably top 10 all time.
The Tilt the World Slam and the Frankensteiner were amazing and innovative moves for that time.
He was great as big poppa pump.
He had to. When he was young he was incredibly athletic. The Frankensteiner was amazing for a guy his size. Then he got injured and couldn't wrestle that way anymore. Creating the BPP character was a genius way to continue his career and it worked.
Top 5 imo
@@mprice6683Same as Flair after the plane crash he had to change his style.👊🏽🙉🙊
Mick Foley says he saw on a board that he was in a tag match against the Steiner Brothers. He says its the only time he ever thought of quiting wrestling. Falling through & being thrown off the Hell in a Cell cage, no big deal. But wrestling the Steiners is more frightening.
Steiner Brothers are my fav tag team, and their moves were awesome, but if you think about it, that’s not really good. Yeah, there are some wrestlers who have a stiff style, but others should never be afraid of working with them. That’s why Bret Hart is still the best. He was realistic without hurting anyone.
Steiner Brothers and Road Warriors best tag teams ever.
The Steiners and a few other WCW guys at that time were notorious for taking liberties with people, especially the enhancement talent who may not be able to do everything they wanted.
cage fall was planned
If the steiners wanted to they could have done anything to Foley and there is never he could have done about it
Ole Scott Steiner. I know him, we'll be in Stacks gym working out back in the mid 90's to early 2000's. Great guy.
He's right about them Samoans. Had a sergeant in the Army who would take his boots off on 12 mile ruck marches. Said they were uncomfortable. He'd also drink a case of beer and act totally fine.
They build them different on the island
@@jamesshelley5912 Not really, they just filled you full of antiandrogens and estrogen
Went to same highschool as Scott and Rick. Same church. The gym has a ton of their wrestling banners/records. Although their actual last name is reichareinter
Bay City Western?
@@lPHOENIXZEROl yep! In good ol Auburn Michigan
@@user-mu2mp8ll6c Cool, my brother graduated from there a long time ago.
Reichsteiner*
@@Matt_Wilson01Rechsteiner*
Great hat Scotty
Steiner was my favorite loose cannon
1:10 Don Frye was one of the toughest fighters around; best known for his famous PRIDE match with Takiyama where they hockey-punched each other over and over like there was no tomorrow.
He was the real deal
That fight was great to watch but caused both a great deal of injuries. Don almost die after that fight.
They both became close friends after that match. Total respect for each other. Frye even went to visit Takayama in the hospital after he was paralyzed from spinal injury after landing on his head in a wrestling event.
Usually the name brought up most often when talking about a tough guy in wrestling is Ron Simmons.
DAMN!
@@VKM33 LOL
His name isn't brought up enough.
because he's not at the very top right below@@J55S
Another old skool tough guy was Dick Slater
All wrestlers from the islands are tough especially haku and the stories about him are legendary
Mr. Tonga is so scary and nasty even Chuck Norris checks under the bed for him.
Steiner was one of my favourites from the day.
Ron Simmons too.
I trained with the NFL Noga Brothers in da 80's. The Samoans feel no pain and they;re all power 200%. The most loyal friends and your worse nightmare. Stay on their good side. /word.
I used to work in the Walmart in Woodstock, Georgia and the coolest part of that job was getting to see Scott Steiner like twice a month
Scott Steiner is still the man! GO BLUE!!
Don't know if it was Scott or Rick that said this but one of them said. I though me and my brother was tough, until we met Haku and Barbarian
Rick said that
Respect ...
Imagine getting picked up and slammed by Scott in an actual fight
You trying to make Scott mad with that Hogan memorabilia in the background 😂😂
Yea he KNEW who not to play with!!
Don Frye is my new favorite ufc fighter. I think he’s the next big thing!
THE STEINER BROTHERS WERE ONE OF THE BEST TAG TEAMS EVER AND IN SINGLES AS WELL BIG POPPA PUMPS YOUR HOOK UO HOLLA IF YOU HEAR ME THE BIG BAD BOOTY DADDY 😊
So is John Poz running Hannibal TV or is he a part of it? Such a great Host! THANK YOU, JOHN!
My man Scott went to school with Scott nice guy
Love him!
Scotty!
Prime 275lb Haku, had excellent balance from his days as a Sumo in Japan. MAYBE Scott has a CHANCE to get him down using his amateur skills - note that Rick never beat John Tenta in any of their dressing room wrestling competitions. How is Scott going to stop a frenzied Haku from sticking his fingers in his eyes, crushing his testicles. biting his throat, fish-hooking his mouth ? Wrestling only works when there's rules, and the other person follows those rules.
There any footage of that don frye and Steiner match would love to see it
Respect
Scott Norton also comes to mind of someone i wouldnt want to mess with
Love the steiners ❤ never forgot scotts shoot on WCW about Flair 😮 he was incredible 😲 his matches along with Rick vs Luger and Sting are legendary 👌 BPP was the man. Now we have another Steiner, Bron Brekker 😊
Big Poppa Chump is always great to hear talking wrestling
Scott- Still a Boss!
Legion of doom word up Doomsday device vs bulldog off THA shoulders I rather take tha bulldog off THA shoulders word up
Surprised he didn’t mention Ron Simmons
Teddy said that the Steiner Brothers would pick on anybody but were kind of afraid or timid around Ron Simmons
@Mickieshelton Yep, he said Simmons and Butch Reed.
Talking about tough. Meng and Barbarian, Steiner Brothers and Road Warriors were my tough tag team picks. Steiner's vs Road Warriors on Nitro had a ton of stiff shots. Just made the match so much better.
Meng was WCW hard-core champion.... 'nuff said!!!!😂❤😊
Haku and Barbarian won’t come out and say cause that’s how us Tongans are. We don’t brag and deflect glory to others. We’re not interested in that. We just wanna have fun and enjoy each others friendship. No need to brag or prove anything as you notice in Meng’s interviews. #TokoUso
Haku and Barbarian are not Samoan. They are from Tonga and they are both extremely tough.
One never wants to mix those up LOL
Scott off steds is so much calmer hahaha
After hearing about some of Haku and Harley Race's real fighting techniques I can see why the original UFC made eye gouging the only illegal thing in "no holds barred" competition.
There was no fish hooking either I believe
And no biting, BUT if you wanted to do these things there wasn’t like a point system where you’ll be disqualified @@analiysanchez9949
They were illegal but Gerard Gordeau did bite Royce Gracie and Jon Hess did two eye gouges against Andy Anderson.
@@kevthegoat8774 yep. GORDEU WAS super dirty. Dirty fighter. But yeah it was crazy back then.
@@TheFailedmessiahyeah absolte scum. Caused that japanese guy to go blind in 1 eye.
I do have to say that when I trained in mma (started with boxing then muay thai and bjj) and I noticed right off the bat that the guys who had an amateur wrestling background took to mma like a fish to water and dominated all of us in the class. In hindsight I wish I would have took up wrestling when i was in at least jr high or high school but I was too focused on football and powerlifting. Then in my late teens i realized being strong would only get you so far against a trained fighter so I took up boxing for self defense reasons then after I saw UFC 1 i was hooked and switched to a school that offered bjj on tuesdays and thursday and muay thai on mondays and wednesdays. The first time I was taken to the ground and off of my feet I panicked and of course got destroyed by guys who had been grappling since they were kids. It took me a long time to get comfortable groundfighting and even then I wasnt that great and could barely hold my own for a short time. Sprawling became my best friend and even then I still would eventually get my ass handed to me😂
Wrestling is pretty much the best base ever because you learn conditioning, weight cutting, and ground/body control.
Wrestlers dominate in the UFC because UFC are made for them.
In other promotions (one fc) they can elbow the wrestler head instead of watch how he double legs them and position them instead of getting cut
@carlosgaleotegandara7812 one doesn't have the same quality of wrestlers as the ufc. good stand up but that's really it. Plus the weight divisions are all screwed up
@@carlosgaleotegandara7812 If I were doubled-legged, I'd worry about sprawling and regaining my base than attempting a precision strike to the face.
Don't forget wrestlers used to be even more dominant in the early days, where there were less rules. Wrestlers could cruise by knowing zero submission b/c you could ground n' pound w/headbutts and knees to the heads of grounded opponents. Bas Rutten, a dutch kickboxer, admitted as such regarding training his student, Mark Kerr.
I wonder if the Steiners would had ever tried their hand at MMA if it was around when they young?
not enough money for the brain structure damage you get.
If only...
The Steiners & Kurt Angle joined MMA, I think Goldberg would've done very well
@@pjleon8391 UFC started in 1993 so they all could have competed in their prime. The Steiners and Angle maybe but Goldberg no f'n way!
@@jamesm3657 Goldberg was better at real fighting over wrestling, that's why he'd often injured ppl with his style of wrestling offense 😂
It was around when they were young
I miss prime big poppa pump, he needed a freak on a leash and get his release.
Could you imagine a young Scott Steiner in MMA?
The Stiener Brothers are by far my favorite professional wrestlers of all time!
An overlooked tough guy was Mr. Saito. Legit shooter.
Rick n Scott were tough as shit two.5.5
Current UFC guys are dominating with wrestling....Mark Coleman, DOn Frye lol
Don Frye is a puncher with alot of toughness mixed with meaness. My type guy..
LOL and Frye has already died.. twice. But they revived him both times.
I think he was just equating vey tough guys around his era that were in the ufc/mma… and had an amateur wrestling background…
And how guys still to this day in mma… and at the top of the sport have some type of a wrestling background..
And….
How tough many many amateur wrestlers are..
But definitely get your point… lol.
Non of those names were even close to modern mma.
I thought he was thinking of Randy Couture or Chuck Liddell when he couldn’t think of the name.. both big names.. and a bit more modern then the others named….
And he comes back with Don Frye..
Who is awesome and a pioneer… but not exactly modern in mma
He did say…
“When they were champions”
So…I’ll cut him slack
@@gl3605 I get your point but please don't disrespect Don Frye just to win a debate vs someone else.
DDP was crazy enough to try Steiner
@veganhigler6541DDP admitted that they pulled Steiner off of him and he had cuts and bruises on his face.
That is what i heard him say also. SS would have hurt him if it was not stopped. He had that amateur wrestling background.
@veganhigler6541 how many fights you been in vegan boy? 😂😂😂😂 your opinion on fighting is pointless.
The difference between Haku/Barbarian and the Steiners is that the islanders never took liberties with their opponents.
Dont forget road warrior Hawk
Hawk was tough but plenty of skilled guys could have taken him.
Yes, Rick Steiner said Haku, Hawk, and Dr Death were the legit toughest.
@@mmafan8407 Rick mentioned Bart Gunn too. Guys like Steve Blackman, Savio Vega, Scorpio and The Godfather all looked like much better fighters than Hawk in the BFA.
Wcw bpp was the best .he was crazy his war with ddp was crazy.
Didn't both Rick and Scott say they were a bit weary of Ron Simmons?
Every wrestler in the past says Haku was the toughest guy ever.
What does the steiner math say?
Haku is Meng right?
yeah ;-)
Dr D David Schultz and Bruiser Brody vs Faces Of Fear death match
Faces of Fear every time.
1:48 I'm surprised he didn't launch into a promo right here, "EXCEPT SAMOA JOE, THAT HALF BREED!"
Don Frye wrestled Scott Steiner in college! How many people know about this? Who won?
Being tough will only get you more punishment against a skilled athlete.In the Pridefc days some of the contestants are tough pro wrestlers and they all ended up getting beat up and eventually koed by the real fighters.
I wanna see Haku vs Lesnar in their prime.
I suspect Haku would win in a street fight and Lesnar would win in a wrestling match. In a MMA match, it could go either way. There are stories about Haku knocking people out, but depending on the rules, Lesnar may have the edge.
@@megavolt67 this dream match has been brought up A LOT. And most debaters agreed on the rule set determining the winner.
For me however, I'd pick Lesnar. Lesnar defeated some of the best fighters in the world. Haku only beat up drunken idiots in bars. Big difference in competition.
And don't think Brock can't fight dirty if need be. There's many stories of dirty fighting in the amateur ranks. Ever hear of illegal technique, "oil checker?" Might want to google that as it comes up every season LOL Also Cheal Sonnen told a story of Matt Lindland once intentionally breaking his opponent's fingers in a sanctioned match. Lindland almost died b/c he pissed off the entire Russian wrestling team for that incident.
Off this tangent, I'm trying to say it's better to have sport skill and have street fighting to fall back on, than solely relying on dirty fighting and have no legit training base.
Haku would wipe the floor with lesnar then mount his wife
Haku would destroy Lesnar and you can ask any Samoan and Tongan wrestlers...He was no joke..He took a bunch of 300 pound man down in St Louis..He was crazy tough..
What steriod stack and meal plan was Big Poppa Pump on? I need to know. Im trainging now and i want some serious gains by summer time lol
*All* the steroids
Lol probably the 3 strongest Trenbolone, Anadrol, and Test Suspension.
I love scott because he’s not Chris Benoit.
THe GOAT GSP was a wrestler
ming?
Arn Anderson mentioned The Steiners never messed with Ron Simmons
I was just thinking of this.
Scott Steiner admitted they didn't mess with Ron because he didn't like it on the high spots shoot interview.
And Arn Anderson also said Ron Simmons wasn't in the same league as Haku so that just gives you an idea of Haku's toughness
I’d take the steiners against haku and barbarian. They might’ve been tough guys but that shit goes out the window when you’re taken down and can’t get up.
""According to him"? 😂
We get it. Haku is tough.
It's literally been mentioned in shoot interviews countless times I agree
Huh?
Poppa Pump had a 2/3 chance of finishing this video.
Based Scottie reppin for UNDEFEATED NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN WOLVERINES
Ddp was tuff?
To some degree I'd say he is.
Im sure in his heyday that scotty steiner feared absolutely no one...however there were plenty of 150lb guys around who would make him cry tears of blood
The Gracies, Sakuraba, etc...
There's no doubt the Gracie's or sakuraba are tough and strong and all that, but there's just no possible way they could beat guys like haku or Scott Steiner or guys like bresner, the couldn't even apply their holds in them
I don't know about that. Maybe back when BJJ was fairly unknown outside of Brazil and under the old UFC rule set, which was basically the Gracie rules. Royce did catch Dan Severn in a triangle choke, and Severn is the closest thing to Steiner's contemporary. At the same time, it did take like 15 minutes, and Severn was in control for all of it until the end, even if he didn't bother attempting much.
As for Sakuraba, he was trained in catch as catch can and basically a blown up 185'er even in his prime. He destroyed a lot of the mystique behind the Gracie family, and was in turn destroyed by Wanderlei Silva, a roided to the gills muay thai and bare knuckles fighter.
@@aliamjon2550Sakuraba submitted Kevin Randleman
@@dunnono00 Pride Wandy was 205 lbs. so Saku was fighting up one weight class (185 lbs). Wand also was familiar w/BJJ, he just used it defensively (he preferred Muay Thai.) Wanderlei's BJJ came up in his first bout vs Mirko Cro-Cop, which ended a time limit draw but Wanderlei was winning on points.
Sakuraba was a grappling savant, who beat all other grappling savants (Gracies.) But he was still one-dimensional and frankly got screwed over by being forced to fight opponents 1 (light heavyweight) or 2 (heavyweight) weight classes above him.
Tangent: Saku's mentor, Nobuhiko Takada, was embarrassed that his former student performed better than him so Takada used his political power to book unfair matches for his ex-subordinate, to sabotage his career.
Takada was involved in many shady things, including a fixed fight vs Mark Coleman and a brawl where Takada begged Enson Inoue for help but refused to thank him after he helped out.
Haku different kind of tough. Scoop your eye out, bite your nose off. That’s different.
But in reality.........
BROCK LESNAR is the name!!!!
Too say wrestling is the most impossible thing in mma as top fighters have wrestlers backgrounds is nonsense. Most amateur wrestlers go into wwe or mma as they have no other avenues. However for a sport like boxing, no top boxer in there prime has gone into mma just lower level. So if the amount of top boxers as top wrestling went into mma, you would see difference championship
To summarize your word salad, "pro boxing pays better than mma - hence we don't see many high level boxers in mma." However a few have tried (James Toney and Butterbean) and lost convincingly to names unknown comparatively to them (I'm not calling Randy Couture and Genki Sudo "randoms" but they don't have boxer fame.)
If you analyze what we've seen so far, sport for sport, boxers have no ground options so they lose instantly on the ground. Boxers also have no takedown defense (if they did, they'd be hybrid fighters and not pure boxers.) Also, the best boxers in the world cannot stop a simple clinch, performed by another boxer. Imagine trying to stop a wrestler from wrestling you when you can't even prevent a boxer (who is wearing boxing gloves) from wrestling you?
I admit I am biased b/c I've done BJJ for 2 decades and have gotten rag-dolled by wrestlers w/no submission skills... but wrestling techniques just seem to override all other skill sets presented in mma gyms. AND wrestlers have the best fitness in martial arts. Just what I've noticed over the years.
So why does Hannibal interview all these old has-beens yet whenever someone good comes on, he never does the interview?
I think both were tongans😅
Scott not smart enough to turn the device 90 degrees.
Haku was Tongan and not Samoan.
Haku and Barbarian are Tongans not Samoans
Bobby Lashley is also legit fighter too
Bobby lashley ? Dude come on, there's no doubt he's a big strong guy, he ain't at the Steiner, haku, brock lesner level
@@aliamjon2550Steiners would get destroyed by Lashley. Lashley is a faster and a better athlete.
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Faster doesn't necessarily mean he'll destroy anyone, experience counts more then speed, and to say "destroy" is a bold thing to say, you probably don't know much about Scott or Rick Steiner and their background in wrestling and fighting
@@aliamjon2550 Lashley had a better wrestling background than both Steiners as did other wrestlers such as Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, Sylvester Terkay, Craig Pittman, Danny Hodge etc
Lashley also has training in striking and BJJ which would be the difference when they are on the ground.
If Bobby Lashley was in an elite level of toughness, other wrestlers would be saying it not you or me.
Guys that could mop 99.9% of the population in a real fight are scared of Haku. That tells you all you need to know.
Steiner doesn't sound too good 😮
Honestly, who cares anymore? we get Haku is tough 😒
All of these guys were on steroids... without it i doubt they could fight. Dont compare to ufc fighters
Steiners are awesome but they are not top 5 best fighters. If im taking 5 besides barb and haku its, Hawk, blackman, dr death, harley and dick slater
Watch Hawk in the Brawl For All against Droz, he was 41 years old slugging it out with a former NFL player but his punching technique wasn't the best, Bart Gunn would have knocked out any version of Hawk.
Watch Bart vs Bradshaw his stand up was brutal as well, stiff, straight up, they all suck at boxing! lol Im saying go out back lets see who comes back in the bar tough@@kevthegoat8774
Hawk was not just 41 years old but was also coming off a decade of serious substance abuse problems so his reflexes and his strikes were practically gone but he still fought an NFL Player to a draw. People like Rick Steiner have put Hawk in their list of legit toughest wrestlers and their opinion is worth a million times more than yours or mine.
Hogan was tough
You must be kidding, Hogan was a known coward who ran from a fight backstage from Randy Savage
OMG Haku was trash in the ring
... says the internet tough guy 🥱
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