William Frazier I do plymoetrics, and resistance type training. Lately I been doing more hill training and sprints to slim down for a race I got coming up.
James Wright why you got be negative. I'm sure he got plenty of cash. he was smart. he did go to college. he been out the league and he's still getting money bro do your research
George Karl's comments were cowardly. He's out here telling people they could have been better men but waited years to defame another man's character. He wouldn't dare tell that to anyone of their faces.
boomboominroom that's how some white people are. As soon as your back is turn they'll say whatever they want. But it's NEVER or rarely up close and personal
Santoro Vision I beg to differ look at Lebron James it great friend, great father, and great husband. He's never in trouble only thing he might overstep certain things on his team if he feels it will make them better.
Rick S- I wish more people would understand the concept and importance of per capita when interpreting statistics. > The response is to always point to anecdotal evidence and then act as if they disproved the argument being presented. > As I stated in my original comment, "Of course it doesn't GUARANTEE success" to have both parents active in their child's life, I never made that argument. The point I was making is that having both parents, specifically a father (or even a father figure) increases the chances of the child's success dramatically.
So when he didn't work out in Sacramento we were all (me included) so quick to blame Demarcus. Karl's recent comments and Kenyon's perspective has made me completely re-think that opinion.
@MrOctober44 George Karl was a stat boy's dream. Looks great on paper but asshole as a person and a coach. He couldn't win when it counted. There's a reason why he had all that talent and couldn't win a ring. Overrated!
I'm from Denver and been a life long Nuggets fan. George Karl was wrong with these statements. While Melo, JR, and K-Mart weren't the best players to coach. Yet, the way he went and attacked them and their families was unjust. Not sure why he said this. I've known George Karl my whole life and have talked to him many times and this doesn't seem like him...yet he needs to really change the way he things about people because this is a problem.
Trey Mitchell when you have guys like Andre Iguodala and Ray Allen having issues with this dude and leaving his team, that guy is the problem. his time in Sacramento with boogie cousins was the most glaring example of that
Trey Mitchell He's a being hypercritical in what he's saying because his son played in the NBA on that same Nuggets team Melo JR Smith & KMart had success but is own Son failed and he had a father& his father was the coach. #L1C4 #DC41
you are still biased to Karl, so your words don't matter. you saying not the best players to coach, how bout that punk was not the best guy to coach! yell
This was good cause he didn't really attack George here , he is just sticking up for his family and in my personal opinion kenyon took the high road, poor George is a little weasel with no spine , outing guys to sell a book, u wanna talk about money George is doing this for money . He is a disgrace !
I agree completely, I live under a single parent and to go out of your own way to comment like that... is an act of disrespect on their person and how they were brought up. How does he not think about how Kenyon, Melo and JR parent's feel about this? It's disappointing on how, some NBA/Ex NBA players are in the crossfire regarding this... I'm very happy Kenyon spoke on how he felt and was very straightforward with it. To Melo, JR Swish and Kenyon keep being you, move forward enjoying your lives, and how you got there because each of you endured different things but became stronger because of that :)
I like Kenyon , but MONEY is not a barometer for how well youve done in the game of life. Its sad that so many people think that , money doesnt make the man. Look around at millionaires/billionaires. Some are good people ,most are aholes. Character is much more important than money
Ed Lo exactly but they never call out their own. its more two parent homes where the kids are strung out on alcohol drugs ADHD DEPRESSION & oppositional defiant disorders beating up the parents cursing at them and scares to sleep at night around their own kids...please!
Jay Gg lol Cousins is definitely the wrong example to use but when GP who recently made the hall of fame says he didn't care to speak to Karl for months because of his attitude that says alot.That cat along with Kemp gave Karl his most success.
Because it's not their fault that their parents either died (in case of Melo) or parents just left them. These guys were successful without having a father.
hitek9wittafulclip How is it possible 50000 people died from drug overdoses last year and 47000 died in 2014 and most are white from two parent homes? Think about those numbers for a minute, those numbers negatively affects the life expectancy of whites
@@TheSands83he could tell it like it is in a personal call or text 20 years ago if it was to help him learn from the fact, instead he waits 2 decades to sell a book so he mentions the the death of the man’s father as an excerpt before its release to hype its sale when he’s already made millions coaching. Pure snake behavior.
@@TheSands83 telling what how it is? kenyon and carmelo made it to and had extremely successful careers in the NBA, one of the most difficult things to do in sports. George Karl trying to assassinate their character and attribute any shortcomings to a lack of fatherhood is extremely disrespectful and dismissive of their mothers’ efforts, the lessons taught, sacrifices made, and support given to help those guys get to where they did in life
That’s not a burden that’s a life lesson!! Not having a father in your life doesn’t determine the man you will become smh.. people just say anything!!!
George Karl has done this throughout his career. He did it to Shawn Kemp in Seattle and also did it in Milwaukee with Jason Caffey. Spoke with Jason recently and he HATES the man George Karl. The Denver Nuggets realized George was bad for their franchise and fired him, after winning Coach of The Year!!!
Yes you can be successful without two parents and having two parents doesn't necessarily guarantee success, but all the studies show having two parents is a crucial part of a persons development. Also, success is not the only crucial element of having two parents. Not having fathers affects men's relationships with women in adulthood as well as womens relationships with men.
Yeah, having both parents in a child's life does help a lot but there's no guarantees. People can have both parents in their lives and still turn out jacked up. George Karl was talking about fatherless kids and these players in a shady, greasy and disrespectful way. Plus, Martin mentioned that Karl felt J.R. Smith's father was around him too much. Which one is it? Just because somebody says something doesn't mean they have good intentions behind it, and we as Black people have to stop taking other races' talking points because they don't take none of ours.
Sylvester Graham JR may be cool now, but he was a nutcase when he was first in the league. People forget that he actually killed a man and was guilty of it. Rock Mon, the other guy he called out was Melo
Proud of Kenyon! When he 1st came into the league (drafted by the NJ Nets), he had a very noticeable stuttering problem. Just listening to him now you would never know! Loved this dude when he played in Jersey with Kidd and Richard Jefferson!
Johnny Football's dad was there erryday, B; & look how he turned out..My dad has been with my mother for over 40 yrs strong, & I have 2 siblings that cant get it together despite all the help & resources having 2 good parents provides..its all about what YOU make of yourself
Alot of rich kids dnt turn out well bcuz they were spoiled n not raised to have responsibilities so wen they have to work to b successful alone they fail or turn to drugs. N manziel has never had to want . he was raised with no discipline
I agree with Kenyon Martin said but the mother and I am the father is wrong what he said. We should take accountability for our action to bring a child in the world.
PillzBerry27 but that comes with the implication that the father's conciously choose to walk out of their kid's lives. Melo lost his father to cancer, so that's not his fault, nor is it George's place to speak on it. idk about Kenyon's life, but like he said, it's implying that single mothers could never teach their sons how to be a man, is insulting. especially when with a single mother he's went to college, and had a successful professional career.
Xaviér Smith that the exception to the rule you're arguing ..for every Kenyon ..it's thousands that don't make it..it's statistics that proves that single parenting is harmful to children development
I agree with and respect Kenyon & appreciate his straight talk -clear, direct and honest without being harsh. Kenyon is a real man, George Karl could learn from.
Kenyon Martin got a championship playing the same brand of basketball he played for George Karl...I never had much respect for George Karl to begin with. Now I just can't stand the guy...
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Funny how Karl mentioned Dean Smith so much. Dean was NEVER seeking attention. It was all about his players. He built relationships w/ players so much he willed them $200 each upon his passing. Dean retired as the best coach of his era w/ zero fanfare. He just left. Karl needs to reexamine his methods. Dean took all of his family business to his grave.
I am black and Karl was absolutely right. The biggest problem my community faces today is the lack of fathers, mostly because black women have no problem with having kids with no fathers present, because they think they can raise kids without fathers. Thus black women most times do not take birth control, which is why they lead the nation in both out of wedlock rate AND abortion rate by a longshot. Karl probably shouldn't have said it but he is right, although it's uncomfortable I will admit
humanparadox our president was raised by a single woman. Black women don't have access to contraceptives as much and policy makes it so there are a lot more black women than man
Sure that maybe an issue, but it wasn't relevant when he was talking about Melo. Melo's father died of cancer when he was 2. That is just a tragic situation, not an instance of a man walking out on responsibilities.
humanparadox will never understand why some black men like you love to put down our women like that. because it's all the woman's fault that she has to raise the child alone right?
As a man im proud of k mart for making it to the nba and taking care of his mother. KM one of my favorite players in college to ever watch. Love hos game and highly respext him as a man. Bless Up
Having a father or mother doesn’t guarantee success and make you a good person. But IT IS the highest percentage of giving you proper morals,self worth, how to respect and live as a good person in this world. But don’t say Fathers aren’t needed. THEY ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS MOTHERS. THE BREAKDOWN OF THE FAMILY HOME IS THE REASON WHY OUR COUNTRY IS BROKEN. A proper 2 Parent home is the best way to raise kids.
Single parent households is an issue in the black community. but George Karl isn't qualified to speak on it. His comments where very disrespectful, and he ought to apologize.
" My mom was my mom and my father " this is a big pet peeve of mine..if it was just ur mom then u had a great mom and outstanding mom but a mom can't be a dad period.
It's just a figure of speech. He doesn't mean that literally because it's impossible, but he's basically saying he didn't have to have his dad around growing up a lot of guys don't. Having't a man in a house growing up isn't going to make you any tougher. I feel what you're saying though.
4uFriday I feel what u r sayn aswell. I see this also on social media on father's day. It's painful to think our mom might have been a side chick to somebody..but all in all the black family needs to stick together
MrKravonGill it's a figure of speech dude. Seriously it is that hard to understand? When people said their mom is this the mother and father at the same time, it means the mother takes on the role of both parents to raise her kids. She does motherly things like taking care of them in a maternal way but also do things for them that fathers would do. So many amazing single mothers was able to accomplished that. A single mother has to take that role. Just like a single dad taking both roles of a mother and father. A single parent have to find a way to fill both roles because their kids will need it. Do you think that because a mom isn't a dad, she would be like oh I can't do that for you because I'm not your dad?
It's never meant to be accurate. Of course his mom could not have done "male" roles but those roles done by a father (whatever it is dictated by social convention), her mom did that.. that was the point.
Karl has had some very solid players, not trying to hear how great he is with no rings while I watched Larry Brown get it done with less. Now I wish Melo went to Detroit
Whether you have a father or not that's most likely not goal affect your success even tho it can hurt your childhood... One thing I can say is no single mother should be blamed, doesn't matter if she's black, white, yellow, purple. Single mothers do everything, god bless them
I used to have respect for George Karl. Kenyon is right for speaking up and defending his name & FAMILY. More and more each day things are being revealed about what they ( "blue bloods") really think about certain athletes. (READ BETWEEN THE LINES). It's either one of two things...1) JEALOUSY of how much money the players are making ; and less power of coaches , GMs , have now and days. Or it's number 2) ****** ....you fill in the blanks because I don't feel like having that type of debate ; it tends to turn into name calling & a bunch of lies and stereotypes.
Not to say that a father could ever be replaced or that a mother could teach a man certain things but me being raised by a single mother, I must say, when people compliment me on my human qualities, my generosity and my ability to be a father to children of my own and ones that God has given me, I always say that my mother made me. The greatest gift God gave me, my Mom, thank you to all the single mothers, you are not celebrated enough. I pray that once you read this you will call your mother and say, I love you and tell her how she shaped you , today..❤️
Yes and no, but mostly no. When someone makes a comment that basically says that a woman can not, 'scuse me, let me repeat myself, a woman can not do the job of both mother and father....... when a person says as much, he or she is not cutting down your mamma. I get it. Somebody from a single parent family headed by a mom is gonna be uppity. Is gonna be defensive. I get that. What's done is done and you're the exception to the rule Kenyon: you turned out great. Your mom did a great job. Barkley's mom did a great job. But the truth is most moms in these single parent fam situations don't do so great. Sixty percent of our prisoners come from single parent families headed by moms. We need to change our divorce laws. It's too easy for women to just say, "Wup, I'm done. I want all the money, but I don't want to have to deal with a man." And so 70% of all divorces are initiated by women. Because they can get about as much money, but kick the father out, never let the father see his children, and these women get to control things. And it's ruining the children from these families. It's ruining MOST of the children from these families.
If George Karl had an issue with 1 or even 2 players, cool. it happens. players like deron williams and rondo have had issues with multiple coaches etc. but with karl, it seems that hes had problems with every other player. now thats not cool.
Karl is a no bs coach tht says it like it is n is harsh on his players like tough love kind of like pop but pop has rings n a dynasty to his name so players come with a respect n take his harshness but karl doesnt have all tht
as the team leader he should've stepped up & offered his guidance if he felt like his players weren't mature/professional enough..he's a great coach but it's no coincidence that he has had a strained relationship with all of his star players on every team he's coached
Kenyon is a veteran i will want on my team any day..imagine a team of KG in his prime..ron artest in his prime..and Kenyon in his prime..lmao aww man they gone lock it down!!
a someone who dad left before i was born this upsets me its not a childs fault that their dad wasnt there for there life and it does hurt but at the same time you dont need a dad to learn how to be a man sometimes the ones around you can help you evolve
It's crazy that George Karl said those things because Kenyon, Melo, and J.R. are known for being team players and easy to coach. I've never once just seen any of them just jack up shots all game and try to make themselves look good.
George talked about them not having a father... His comments were more than basketball, these are PERSONAL attacks. An assessment talking about a player not playing defense is one thing, but talking about someone not having a father that is not the same thing.
For him to make that statement years later is a testament of his failure as a coach. He had so many opportunities to give them an example of how a "Man" is supposed to conduct himself but passed up the opportunity. Coaching is more than just X's and O's, it's a mentorship!
1:49 I do. I have social anxiety and don't like the attention. Now I'm feeling a bit disrespected by those remarks. You saying I'm a horrible person because I'm nervous around people?
K - Martin is right up until him saying his mom's was his pip as well as his mom's? A mother could never ve a father or vise versa although I understands what he means. Last thi g anyone should do is disrespect another man's moms.. Dad you may get a pass but mom's more than likely not!
All you need to know is George Karl did not have in bounds plays. That tells you everything. Part of being coach is being a mentor. George Karl was neither a coach nor a mentor. He lived off the coat tails of the great players of the teams he coached. Very little of the value he added. I went a long time thinking it was the players, and all this time it was Karl was garbage.
i just want to know if karl was right ? you've said yourself kenyon you've gotten into fights and arguments while in denver you hung with the wrong crowd ect. cause im comparing what he said with your "answers" and im feeling like karl my have a valid point cause hes not talking about you today hes talking about you 10 years ago
ShakeDownShane. What Gerorge Karl said was kinda right but to an extent. Yes, keyon (nor melo or j.r.) had a father and acted up some times yet, their teammates all said they were great, plus they got it done on the court. And if they "didn't have a father figure," it should have been his job to step in as a father figure. But what he said was outta line and he shouldn't have said it.
I'm with Ice Shadow. It seems like he cares now all of the sudden to make another quick buck since he is out of a job. Kinda annoying. Especially because he knows the bad pub is still good pub. The best thing for Kenyon to do would be to say something like "i'd be worried if people actually cared enough to buy his book" lol
Kenyon Martin real dude , very professional and stand up.
I give em much respect how he handling this topic
Malaki727 completely agree
William Frazier I do plymoetrics, and resistance type training. Lately I been doing more hill training and sprints to slim down for a race I got coming up.
James Wright why you got be negative. I'm sure he got plenty of cash. he was smart. he did go to college. he been out the league and he's still getting money bro do your research
James Wright you right. it's a cut throat league. once you gone that's it. not a 9-5 job.
I know him personally,, he younger and he showed me how to be a man! he is all man!,, Karl was just negative.
George Karl's comments were cowardly. He's out here telling people they could have been better men but waited years to defame another man's character. He wouldn't dare tell that to anyone of their faces.
boomboominroom that's how some white people are. As soon as your back is turn they'll say whatever they want. But it's NEVER or rarely up close and personal
DankMemes _SANICSpeed white people huh? So only some white people are like that?
Millicente yeah idk why he only said white people. I ain't white btw....but everyone should know snakes come in all colors.
***** I said SOME. I know snakes comes in all colors. But some snakes fit certain colors also
DankMemes _SANICSpeed I get what you meant but it could've been worded better lol
Having a father in your life doesn't guarantee success, morals or ethics. George is proof of that.
Significant Nobody oooohhh brun 🔥
Burn of The Year!
Of course it doesn't GUARANTEE success...nobody is making that argument. What is does do is greatly INCREASE the chances, tho.
Santoro Vision I beg to differ look at Lebron James it great friend, great father, and great husband. He's never in trouble only thing he might overstep certain things on his team if he feels it will make them better.
Rick S- I wish more people would understand the concept and importance of per capita when interpreting statistics.
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The response is to always point to anecdotal evidence and then act as if they disproved the argument being presented.
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As I stated in my original comment, "Of course it doesn't GUARANTEE success" to have both parents active in their child's life, I never made that argument. The point I was making is that having both parents, specifically a father (or even a father figure) increases the chances of the child's success dramatically.
So when he didn't work out in Sacramento we were all (me included) so quick to blame Demarcus. Karl's recent comments and Kenyon's perspective has made me completely re-think that opinion.
N/ A yeah now that I think about it I blamed cousins 100%
lol no
Cousins was a cancer before Karl. Karl+Cousins just made a bad situation worse.
Lol. He was a cancer. George Karl won over a thousand games.
@MrOctober44 George Karl was a stat boy's dream. Looks great on paper but asshole as a person and a coach. He couldn't win when it counted. There's a reason why he had all that talent and couldn't win a ring. Overrated!
I'm from Denver and been a life long Nuggets fan. George Karl was wrong with these statements. While Melo, JR, and K-Mart weren't the best players to coach. Yet, the way he went and attacked them and their families was unjust. Not sure why he said this. I've known George Karl my whole life and have talked to him many times and this doesn't seem like him...yet he needs to really change the way he things about people because this is a problem.
Trey Mitchell you look 20 in your profile picture.
Trey Mitchell when you have guys like Andre Iguodala and Ray Allen having issues with this dude and leaving his team, that guy is the problem. his time in Sacramento with boogie cousins was the most glaring example of that
Trey Mitchell He's a being hypercritical in what he's saying because his son played in the NBA on that same Nuggets team Melo JR Smith & KMart had success but is own Son failed and he had a father& his father was the coach. #L1C4 #DC41
M2A2K because I've been a life long Nuggets fan and knew that time inside and out.
you are still biased to Karl, so your words don't matter. you saying not the best players to coach, how bout that punk was not the best guy to coach! yell
This was good cause he didn't really attack George here , he is just sticking up for his family and in my personal opinion kenyon took the high road, poor George is a little weasel with no spine , outing guys to sell a book, u wanna talk about money George is doing this for money . He is a disgrace !
Do you agree with how Kenyon Martin feels?
ABSOLUTELY!!!
Martin represented himself and his perspective well.
I agree completely, I live under a single parent and to go out of your own way to comment like that... is an act of disrespect on their person and how they were brought up. How does he not think about how Kenyon, Melo and JR parent's feel about this? It's disappointing on how, some NBA/Ex NBA players are in the crossfire regarding this... I'm very happy Kenyon spoke on how he felt and was very straightforward with it. To Melo, JR Swish and Kenyon keep being you, move forward enjoying your lives, and how you got there because each of you endured different things but became stronger because of that :)
Of course. I agree 1,000,000,0000.......%!
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 Johnny Manziel had both parents...
very disrespectful and totally uncalled for, for Karl to mention having a lack of a father
But it's true though. Coaches have to deal with a lot of dysfunction coming from these players because they come from single parent households.
that's BS George is just trying to sell books!
so that makes it okay for him to mention something he knows nothing about
and where did you get that statistic from that most nba players don't know their father? clearly a bigoted opinion
the fact he even said that shows his ignorance, so since most of the players are black, they don't know their father according to him
Both Melo and Martin are multi millionaires I think theyve done more than well for themselves in the game of life lol
Colton W fathers serve more of a purpose than just creating kids with good jobs
humanparadox Melo father died when he was 2
I like Kenyon , but MONEY is not a barometer for how well youve done in the game of life. Its sad that so many people think that , money doesnt make the man. Look around at millionaires/billionaires. Some are good people ,most are aholes. Character is much more important than money
Money dnt make u mature or a man.. Melo n martin were very immature being young with money.. Their mature way came with age
Jay Gg How was Melo immature when he was younger?
johnny Manziel had two parents so yeah....its a super hypocritical statement.
Ed Lo exactly but they never call out their own. its more two parent homes where the kids are strung out on alcohol drugs ADHD DEPRESSION & oppositional defiant disorders beating up the parents cursing at them and scares to sleep at night around their own kids...please!
Ed Lo FACTS
That's the thing about statistics. There are outliers. Manziel, Martin, and Anthony are all outliers
The great hope George Karl was just a bum coach anyway
Are u serious dude
And this is why Cousins was the way he was with Karl.
Post Tramatiq oh, Cousins is that way with everyone. he is a bug dbag with coaches players.... apparently also women at night clubs
Kevin Walker didn't know that, I'm not big on the NBA, I'm trying to get back into it.
Cousins is just immature period has nothing tobdo with karl
Jay Gg lol Cousins is definitely the wrong example to use but when GP who recently made the hall of fame says he didn't care to speak to Karl for months because of his attitude that says alot.That cat along with Kemp gave Karl his most success.
Also disrespectful to those who had both parents, having a father doesn't gurantee success nor necessarily help with it
TrisHit TheFan Yes but if someone was raised by a single parent you don't call them out on it
Because it's not their fault that their parents either died (in case of Melo) or parents just left them. These guys were successful without having a father.
Im fully aware that its tougher for single parents and thats a fact. I was just pointing out other way in which george karl sounded like an idiot.
Go to the prisons and ask the inmates about their fathers.
hitek9wittafulclip How is it possible 50000 people died from drug overdoses last year and 47000 died in 2014 and most are white from two parent homes?
Think about those numbers for a minute, those numbers negatively affects the life expectancy of whites
I've never been a fan of Kenyon Martin,but he seems like a smart , passionate young man. He was an excellent defensive player and rebounder.
He was not excellent at rebounding. Decent role player type. And I enjoy listening to him too
@@admiralkrankandhismightyba158you only saying that because he talking about your long distance relative. You white guys so full of bs 😂
Method man + Joe Budden= K-Mart
Its creepy how similar they look
They all have the same father.
I Call Him Kenyan Budden 😂
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Swear to God
Nicely said from Kenyon. Much respect. Real ones stand up for themselves like men.
KG and KM are some real NBA OGs...
Big Respect To Martin Telling The Truth!!!!
Always was one of my favs ! He put it out there every night ! He's one of the ones you want on your team and not against you ! #respect Kenyon !
What a snake of a coach
Agreed. Disrespecting another man's mother just to sell more copies of your book is utterly shameful.
@@barnun4925how is it disrespectful? He’s telling it like it is
@@TheSands83he could tell it like it is in a personal call or text 20 years ago if it was to help him learn from the fact, instead he waits 2 decades to sell a book so he mentions the the death of the man’s father as an excerpt before its release to hype its sale when he’s already made millions coaching. Pure snake behavior.
@@TheSands83 telling what how it is? kenyon and carmelo made it to and had extremely successful careers in the NBA, one of the most difficult things to do in sports. George Karl trying to assassinate their character and attribute any shortcomings to a lack of fatherhood is extremely disrespectful and dismissive of their mothers’ efforts, the lessons taught, sacrifices made, and support given to help those guys get to where they did in life
George Karl will not coach in the NBA again!..at this point he has a target on his back
Karl is cold blooded. Never disrespect nobodys family!
Fabian A Calm down you sound corny af.
Jesus Delgadillo how he sound corny if he said you shouldn't bring up parents melo dad passed away
That’s not a burden that’s a life lesson!! Not having a father in your life doesn’t determine the man you will become smh.. people just say anything!!!
Joy Taylor😍😍😍
Yea she's a knockout
seeing k-mart brings me back memories when the nets were actually good
the nets didn't get smashed by the spurs, the series could of went either way
Anthony Tinaj kidd kittles jefferson martin kristic whatever dudes name was, fun times
If u notice Kenyon is talking to Shannon Sharpe more than that stu cat.
Ronald Hawkins You see that as well, that's because Kenyon feels Shannon can relate to what the true issue is but without actually saying it!!
right!!! Sounds like he's saying he is a racist on the low..
George Karl has done this throughout his career. He did it to Shawn Kemp in Seattle and also did it in Milwaukee with Jason Caffey. Spoke with Jason recently and he HATES the man George Karl. The Denver Nuggets realized George was bad for their franchise and fired him, after winning Coach of The Year!!!
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xed speak on it!
xed he's tired of bums. I understand his frustration
It was a low class move by Karl.
He hates a lot of those guys because they disrespected him so much -- and two wrongs don't make a right.
Yes you can be successful without two parents and having two parents doesn't necessarily guarantee success, but all the studies show having two parents is a crucial part of a persons development. Also, success is not the only crucial element of having two parents. Not having fathers affects men's relationships with women in adulthood as well as womens relationships with men.
Yeah, having both parents in a child's life does help a lot but there's no guarantees. People can have both parents in their lives and still turn out jacked up. George Karl was talking about fatherless kids and these players in a shady, greasy and disrespectful way.
Plus, Martin mentioned that Karl felt J.R. Smith's father was around him too much. Which one is it? Just because somebody says something doesn't mean they have good intentions behind it, and we as Black people have to stop taking other races' talking points because they don't take none of ours.
Shannon sharpe spoke TRUTH man
As always
He literally didn’t 😂
sometimes not having a father teaches you how to be a better man. shout out to all the single mothers
No
Agree it’s a 50/50
Two jobs, three kids - I call that a triple double
@@matthewrichardson8162 more like a double double 😭
Yeah I’m 42 from what I’ve seen in my life I strongly disagree.
When you bring in people parents to take a shot at someone is insulting.
Two men who went to college and became successful millionaires one from high school, are these the only guys he called out ?
Rock Mon He called out JR Smith too
momandbro8 J.R is the one from high school I was referring to
+momandbro8 what was his problem with JR Smith because he come from a two parent household
Sylvester Graham JR may be cool now, but he was a nutcase when he was first in the league. People forget that he actually killed a man and was guilty of it. Rock Mon, the other guy he called out was Melo
momandbro8 wow
Stand up for yourself young Brother!
Proud of Kenyon! When he 1st came into the league (drafted by the NJ Nets), he had a very noticeable stuttering problem. Just listening to him now you would never know! Loved this dude when he played in Jersey with Kidd and Richard Jefferson!
"F" George Karl sliced up bird face... Kenyan Martin way to go...
Johnny Football's dad was there erryday, B; & look how he turned out..My dad has been with my mother for over 40 yrs strong, & I have 2 siblings that cant get it together despite all the help & resources having 2 good parents provides..its all about what YOU make of yourself
Hold This L. Debarge same here
Alot of rich kids dnt turn out well bcuz they were spoiled n not raised to have responsibilities so wen they have to work to b successful alone they fail or turn to drugs. N manziel has never had to want . he was raised with no discipline
Do u understand what an exception to the rule is?
The Manziel men had a history of a mix of both genius and mental/alcohol/substance abuse problems, plus issues with the law.
KMART is as real as it gets.. Gotta love it
"I don't know nobody walk into a room and not acknowledge anyone." You haven't met my boss.
word i know alot of people who do that...i was jsut watching willy beamon do it yeserday in the movie any given sunday
he's your boss. as long as he pays you and doesn't disrespect you then that's okay. don't cross that boss and worker line
I really liked how K-Mart carried himself in this conversation, he handled it really well but still voiced his opinion strongly
I agree with Kenyon Martin said but the mother and I am the father is wrong what he said. We should take accountability for our action to bring a child in the world.
PillzBerry27 true but you need some old pig to talk about problems he's doesn't care about
PillzBerry27 but that comes with the implication that the father's conciously choose to walk out of their kid's lives. Melo lost his father to cancer, so that's not his fault, nor is it George's place to speak on it. idk about Kenyon's life, but like he said, it's implying that single mothers could never teach their sons how to be a man, is insulting. especially when with a single mother he's went to college, and had a successful professional career.
Xaviér Smith that the exception to the rule you're arguing ..for every Kenyon ..it's thousands that don't make it..it's statistics that proves that single parenting is harmful to children development
M2A2K really, I mean like speak english in cohesive and comprehensive sentences please!
PillzBerry27 I feel you still
I agree with and respect Kenyon & appreciate his straight talk -clear, direct and honest without being harsh. Kenyon is a real man, George Karl could learn from.
Knowing how George Karl really is I can see why him and Demarcus Cousin didn't get along
Respect to Kenyon, he was a hot head as a player but he handles himself with class in light of what Karl said about him.
ok buddy.
@@SirNic4180 he was mature and professional in this interview so, ok buddy
Kenyon Martin got a championship playing the same brand of basketball he played for George Karl...I never had much respect for George Karl to begin with. Now I just can't stand the guy...
so many ads on TH-cam,It's so annoying
talldudeguy20 get TH-cam red it's only like 10 bucks a month I don't get no commercials and I can play it in the background on my phone and do other things at the same time
Jaricho Yoakum Best $10 I spend every month by far!
jat0977 straight up
talldudeguy20 they do it on purpose so you pay the 10 it's worth it though I use it more than Google
Jaricho Yoakum I hope so,since you're paying for it
How you treat people.... Kenyon nailed it
Funny how Karl mentioned Dean Smith so much. Dean was NEVER seeking attention. It was all about his players. He built relationships w/ players so much he willed them $200 each upon his passing. Dean retired as the best coach of his era w/ zero fanfare. He just left. Karl needs to reexamine his methods. Dean took all of his family business to his grave.
No one player has come out to defend Karl.
Something about George always rubbed me the wrong way even as a kid this proves he has no class
Me to he always seemed like " one of those guys "
I am black and Karl was absolutely right. The biggest problem my community faces today is the lack of fathers, mostly because black women have no problem with having kids with no fathers present, because they think they can raise kids without fathers. Thus black women most times do not take birth control, which is why they lead the nation in both out of wedlock rate AND abortion rate by a longshot. Karl probably shouldn't have said it but he is right, although it's uncomfortable I will admit
humanparadox Whenever I see a TH-cam comment start off with "I'm black and....." I instantly feel that you're lyong
Big Ro Exactly, Karl was absolutely wrong 😂that's none of his business and not his place to even say that all that
humanparadox our president was raised by a single woman. Black women don't have access to contraceptives as much and policy makes it so there are a lot more black women than man
Sure that maybe an issue, but it wasn't relevant when he was talking about Melo. Melo's father died of cancer when he was 2. That is just a tragic situation, not an instance of a man walking out on responsibilities.
humanparadox will never understand why some black men like you love to put down our women like that. because it's all the woman's fault that she has to raise the child alone right?
As a man im proud of k mart for making it to the nba and taking care of his mother. KM one of my favorite players in college to ever watch. Love hos game and highly respext him as a man. Bless Up
That's crazy he had all that success and the players can't stand him lo!
Having a father or mother doesn’t guarantee success and make you a good person. But IT IS the highest percentage of giving you proper morals,self worth, how to respect and live as a good person in this world.
But don’t say Fathers aren’t needed.
THEY ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS MOTHERS.
THE BREAKDOWN OF THE FAMILY HOME IS THE REASON WHY OUR COUNTRY IS BROKEN.
A proper 2 Parent home is the best way to raise kids.
Agreed!
Single parent households is an issue in the black community. but George Karl isn't qualified to speak on it. His comments where very disrespectful, and he ought to apologize.
Oswald Bates 100
NOPE I DONT THINK SO ! LMAO SAY WHAT U FEEL AND THATS IT ! WHY HOLD BACK ?
Oswald Bates Single parent households are a problem in ever community.
Oswald Bates He's qualified. He dealt with single parent products his whole coaching life.
Jesus Delgadillo he's white, not from the hood, probably never been to the hood. Nor does he have relatives from the hood. Again, he's disqualified!
" My mom was my mom and my father " this is a big pet peeve of mine..if it was just ur mom then u had a great mom and outstanding mom but a mom can't be a dad period.
It's just a figure of speech. He doesn't mean that literally because it's impossible, but he's basically saying he didn't have to have his dad around growing up a lot of guys don't. Having't a man in a house growing up isn't going to make you any tougher. I feel what you're saying though.
4uFriday I feel what u r sayn aswell. I see this also on social media on father's day. It's painful to think our mom might have been a side chick to somebody..but all in all the black family needs to stick together
MrKravonGill it's a figure of speech dude. Seriously it is that hard to understand? When people said their mom is this the mother and father at the same time, it means the mother takes on the role of both parents to raise her kids. She does motherly things like taking care of them in a maternal way but also do things for them that fathers would do. So many amazing single mothers was able to accomplished that. A single mother has to take that role. Just like a single dad taking both roles of a mother and father. A single parent have to find a way to fill both roles because their kids will need it. Do you think that because a mom isn't a dad, she would be like oh I can't do that for you because I'm not your dad?
Moneygetjealous how can a mom take on both roles? a figure of speech is basically a meme with no photo. Doesn't mean it's accurate or logical
It's never meant to be accurate. Of course his mom could not have done "male" roles but those roles done by a father (whatever it is dictated by social convention), her mom did that.. that was the point.
Karl has had some very solid players, not trying to hear how great he is with no rings while I watched Larry Brown get it done with less. Now I wish Melo went to Detroit
singingchef23 💯💯💯
They did what they could with all the resources they had. It just happened that Kobe, Gasol, Odom and Phil Jackson were in the Lakers that time.
@@malemanjulpax2155 And The Spurs Were In Their Prime At That Time Too
Facts
this man is a millionaire how is that not success? When you come from nothing and went to college not to mention
Mawuli Ware money ain't necessarily success. That's vague thinking
+Vaughn reed jr Yeah but he died before he was 40!
He would have one a championship in Cincinnati, K mart was s beast.
Whether you have a father or not that's most likely not goal affect your success even tho it can hurt your childhood...
One thing I can say is no single mother should be blamed, doesn't matter if she's black, white, yellow, purple. Single mothers do everything, god bless them
Meechy Merc Em A
not all single mothers
I used to have respect for George Karl. Kenyon is right for speaking up and defending his name & FAMILY. More and more each day things are being revealed about what they ( "blue bloods") really think about certain athletes. (READ BETWEEN THE LINES).
It's either one of two things...1) JEALOUSY of how much money the players are making ; and less power of coaches , GMs , have now and days.
Or it's number 2) ****** ....you fill in the blanks because I don't feel like having that type of debate ; it tends to turn into name calling & a bunch of lies and stereotypes.
Karl just got booted from Sacramento for starting a beef with another star player before the season even began. Nobody likes him.
Coach JG I wonder how Gary Payton feels about George Karl.
Melvin Keelen My guess would be Payton and Kemp dislike him as well.
Should write a book on George Karls unemployment.
Well, he had a coaching job in the NBA for 26 years in a row, so I guess that book would be a flop.
@@JK-br1muyour grandfather still unemployed and living on his last leg.
Not to say that a father could ever be replaced or that a mother could teach a man certain things but me being raised by a single mother, I must say, when people compliment me on my human qualities, my generosity and my ability to be a father to children of my own and ones that God has given me, I always say that my mother made me. The greatest gift God gave me, my Mom, thank you to all the single mothers, you are not celebrated enough. I pray that once you read this you will call your mother and say, I love you and tell her how she shaped you , today..❤️
Yes and no, but mostly no. When someone makes a comment that basically says that a woman can not, 'scuse me, let me repeat myself, a woman can not do the job of both mother and father....... when a person says as much, he or she is not cutting down your mamma. I get it. Somebody from a single parent family headed by a mom is gonna be uppity. Is gonna be defensive. I get that. What's done is done and you're the exception to the rule Kenyon: you turned out great. Your mom did a great job. Barkley's mom did a great job. But the truth is most moms in these single parent fam situations don't do so great. Sixty percent of our prisoners come from single parent families headed by moms. We need to change our divorce laws. It's too easy for women to just say, "Wup, I'm done. I want all the money, but I don't want to have to deal with a man." And so 70% of all divorces are initiated by women. Because they can get about as much money, but kick the father out, never let the father see his children, and these women get to control things. And it's ruining the children from these families. It's ruining MOST of the children from these families.
If George Karl had an issue with 1 or even 2 players, cool. it happens. players like deron williams and rondo have had issues with multiple coaches etc.
but with karl, it seems that hes had problems with every other player. now thats not cool.
fau2an100 Both Ray Allen & Andre Igudola hated George Karl... Can't think of two guys with a higher character than them.
fau2an100 and also demarcus. None of his players like him. That says alot
Liberty City El Good point
fau2an100
Ty Lawson and Kendal gill if y'all remember him said Karl had him borderline depressed
Karl is a no bs coach tht says it like it is n is harsh on his players like tough love kind of like pop but pop has rings n a dynasty to his name so players come with a respect n take his harshness but karl doesnt have all tht
All that radiation has fried george karls brain cells. He's a joke
I tried so hard not to laugh at this haha
Jessica Sims You are no better than the dirt you walk on... my mother died of cancer
Dark Auron Sorry about your mom but george karl is my issue.
that's foul
Jessica Sims that's funny
I miss him as a player, but he was not able to play with the hustle he played back in the day. Respect to Kenyon!
K-mart was one of my fav players when i was growin up
Good on Kenyon Martin for speaking out against Karl. What Karl said was completely out of bounds, and he deserves to be criticized because of it.
K-mart is one of my favorite players ever 😎
well until someone speaks up on Karl's behalf I guess we'll have to take Melo's and Martin's word for it
Antoine Jackson Iggy wasn't feeling GK either
Georgie Karl has 0 rings we don't care about him IT DON'T MEAN A THING IF YOU AIN'T GOT THAT RING!!!!!
Im Tylito All those names you mention are trash 2nd class players
Watching Kenyon since he was with Cincinnati and for him to be able to speak without that twitch is amazing to see 👏
Man managment is essential for Coaches
as the team leader he should've stepped up & offered his guidance if he felt like his players weren't mature/professional enough..he's a great coach but it's no coincidence that he has had a strained relationship with all of his star players on every team he's coached
Kenyon is a veteran i will want on my team any day..imagine a team of KG in his prime..ron artest in his prime..and Kenyon in his prime..lmao aww man they gone lock it down!!
derrick rose Put Gilbert Arenas and Rodman on that team and it would make a great reality show
+tyqo hanh lol
+tyqo hanh thats your opinion,you probably look up to darco milic and Dragan bender and others..nothing wrong with that
a someone who dad left before i was born this upsets me its not a childs fault that their dad wasnt there for there life and it does hurt but at the same time you dont need a dad to learn how to be a man sometimes the ones around you can help you evolve
It's crazy that George Karl said those things because Kenyon, Melo, and J.R. are known for being team players and easy to coach. I've never once just seen any of them just jack up shots all game and try to make themselves look good.
George talked about them not having a father...
His comments were more than basketball, these are PERSONAL attacks. An assessment talking about a player not playing defense is one thing, but talking about someone not having a father that is not the same thing.
Keyon remind me of those ogs I don’t see in the streets no more 💪🏾
I wonder how Gary Payton & Shawn Kemp feels about this
George could never win the
Ship
For him to make that statement years later is a testament of his failure as a coach. He had so many opportunities to give them an example of how a "Man" is supposed to conduct himself but passed up the opportunity. Coaching is more than just X's and O's, it's a mentorship!
yea, and he couldve been that "father figure" for some of them lol
Kenyon Martin was a beast
I wouldn't go that far, at best he was an above average player.
Factz he was killa wit the nets and if u think other wise u dont know basketball
Draymond Green he was ok i don't know about a beast lol
Kenyon was a monster in college fam. and with the Nets during those jason kidd years
LiLWiNK211 in 15 seasons only 1 all star appearance and he averaged only 16.7 points per game at his highest
Kenyon Martin has come a long way, he comes off now as a gent instead of a G, maybe it's the gray lol
that is why he never won a championship
Yep he pulled that choke job in Seattle in 1994-1995 number .1 seed and didn't even make it out of the first round what a joke
1:49 I do. I have social anxiety and don't like the attention. Now I'm feeling a bit disrespected by those remarks. You saying I'm a horrible person because I'm nervous around people?
Koss 👀
from a far i was a supporter of george karl but this? lost respect for him. maybe cousins was in the right in Sacramento
K - Martin is right up until him saying his mom's was his pip as well as his mom's? A mother could never ve a father or vise versa although I understands what he means.
Last thi g anyone should do is disrespect another man's moms.. Dad you may get a pass but mom's more than likely not!
im so sad. i loved george karl and the nuggests, living in denver, this is awful, he is a coward now and a pig, im with kenyon
Jordan said in the last dance .he was at a restaurant and George Karl came in and walked right by Jordan and didn't say nothing
It sounds like GK is still bitter of Jordan beating his Sonics on Father's Day to win the 96 NBA title.
much love for keeping it real
How bad of a father do you have to be to have produced a Skip Bayless.
Boris Karloff ask your stank mammie
She's dead, so that might be a little difficult. Thanks for chiming in, though.
ayooo lol lol lol
His father has been dead for 50 years now its fine
Neil Breen He's probably been spinning for 50 years, too.
All you need to know is George Karl did not have in bounds plays. That tells you everything. Part of being coach is being a mentor. George Karl was neither a coach nor a mentor. He lived off the coat tails of the great players of the teams he coached. Very little of the value he added. I went a long time thinking it was the players, and all this time it was Karl was garbage.
i just want to know if karl was right ? you've said yourself kenyon you've gotten into fights and arguments while in denver you hung with the wrong crowd ect. cause im comparing what he said with your "answers" and im feeling like karl my have a valid point cause hes not talking about you today hes talking about you 10 years ago
ShakeDownShane. What Gerorge Karl said was kinda right but to an extent. Yes, keyon (nor melo or j.r.) had a father and acted up some times yet, their teammates all said they were great, plus they got it done on the court. And if they "didn't have a father figure," it should have been his job to step in as a father figure. But what he said was outta line and he shouldn't have said it.
Ice Shadow XXI cant argue with that i agree 100%
I'm with Ice Shadow. It seems like he cares now all of the sudden to make another quick buck since he is out of a job. Kinda annoying. Especially because he knows the bad pub is still good pub. The best thing for Kenyon to do would be to say something like "i'd be worried if people actually cared enough to buy his book" lol
Onlyrealmusic4life lol i see what youre saying but bad pub is bad ask clinton or ghostbusters
mdna72 hes the guy who wants to be one of the cool kids hes a lame who acts like a female
Im a huge new york knick fan and melo is my favorite player ever. The sad part is that i look up to carmelo he motivates me and yet he gets critizized
Is that Joe budden? 😂
he always played the game with heart
Disrespectful, he crossed the line.
Kenyon Martin well articulated
knew george karl was overrated who won't win a few games with melo miller kenyon camby and smith
A Tribe Called Quest i don't agree with some of what he said but i don't think he's overrated. he's a very good coach.
Can I Kick It? good? sure but what did he win with the pieces he's had? I can name others that won with less
singingchef23 He did a good job post Carmelo. Got the 2nd seed with no star, albeit he got knocked out in the first round. Great regular season coach
Can I Kick It? def overrated everyone thought he could fix the king's problems but he only aggravated boogie right when he was getting better
And Iverson