I’ve used this as my primary three season sleeping set up now for almost ten years in the infantry. Your brain bucket or assault pack makes a superior pillow. Also, in the pouring rain, you find a way to make yourself fit inside of it. It’s minimalist, extremely lightweight, packs up small, and has multiple uses.
You can easily turn that Ranger roll into a 4 season sleep bivy, if you add one of the grey or green wool blankets and one of the casualty blankets in between your poncho and woobie. If you lay your out poncho flat, and then lay out one of the green or grey wool blankets on it, then one of the casualty blankets on that, THEN tie on your woobie on top like you normally would..so you have the wool blanket and casualty blanket in between your poncho and woobie..it will be infinitely warmer. With the woobie tied onto the poncho, it will hold the wool and casualty blankets held in there pretty nicely. It wont be warm enough for 0° weather, and it won't keep you as warm as the modular sleep system will. But it will be ALOT warmer than just the regular Ranger roll with poncho and woobie, and it will definitely keep you warm enough to keep you alive in down to 32° degrees weather so you won't get hypothermia while you try to get a couple hours sleep in the field.
While out on patrol, we too would have a local seamstress sew a zipper in the middle so we could attach the poncho and poncho liner together. When it came time to take a catnap, we would just lean up against something with our rifle across our lap, under the insulated poncho, and snooze away. It kept us warm and dry and ready for action.
There are some for same with the zipper already added for your head like this one on amazon: Dragoon Unlimited Ruggedized Zippered Trooper Woobie It’s $60 though. It comes with a small woobie pillow but i would personally never waste space if my pack for such extra luxury
Good show and tell. Its one of my favorite pair of iteams. People dont get its a sleep set not a garment set. I use my woobie to add a few extra degrees of warmth to my wool blanket or sleeping bag in winter camps.
I almost never leave comments on youtube but now I have to. Thank you for the great demo mate! Answered all my questions. Ordered both. You are a great young man. Cheers from Greece!
Great demonstration of how to use one of the best pieces of kit the U.S. military ever issued. Thanks for sharing guys, and keep it up. Good clean, educational entertainment is very enjoyable and getting harder to find these days. Much appreciated!
What we used to do for the foot part is the rubber bag your issued for the sleeping bag is ditch the sleeping bag use the rubber bag and slip it over the portion to keep your feet dry and warm. Also the rubber bag is used to water proof your gear inside your Alice pack.
You are the only person I've ever heard with a voice that sounds like mine. You have a southern accent. But it was strange listening to this. I like the channel. Keep it up man.
I served in the infantry & always wondered how the liner was intended to be used. We just used it as a blanket or inside the 3 layer sleeping bag. And never wore the poncho for rain protection, we wore a gortex jacket & put the poncho over our ruck sack. Alternate use for the poncho is a half shelter using bungie & 550 cords.
My Dad served in Viet Nam and somewhere in this house I still have his poncho liner. I never knew what it was and didn't understand what the point of all the strings were for, LOL. I googled it tonight and found your video, now I know. Thanks
Thanks for the video guys, I always wondered about that. I have both the poncho and liner. I thought that maybe the liner would be used for cold rainy weather. Good to know that the only intention for the woobie was to make the sleep system. Happy Easter to you all.
Ahhh. I didn't know that. I figured it could double as a waterproof sleeping back but I thought it was to help keep it warmer in the poncho when moving too. I suppose someone crafty enough could just make the hole themselves by lining it up with their poncho befor making the cut and sew seems into where its cut to keep the layers of fabric closed up.
Great video. Your dad should be proud of you. You are 10-8! What I would like to see is not only a slit for your head but an identical hood swen on to the liner for the cold with a couple of the shoelace attachment points to keep them together at the head. You lose a lot of heat through your head. If it is not that cold you could just flop the inner hood behind you. Otherwise the benefit of just using the liner for a woobe is minimal. If you know anyone that is that talented to do the sewing work I would be willing to pay for that work. BTW I am in E. Tn. Where are you if you dont mind saying.
I've sort of tried wearing the poncho liner beneath the poncho during a cold rain and I had to remove it. It was too hot and the poncho does not breathe. We are in northeastern NC.
@@robertsbushcraft I still want one at least with the slit for my head. I am in the Foothills of the Great Smokey Mountains. I am probably older than your dad, but I hope to be able to shake your hand one day. I am hoping there will be another prepping event again in the campground at Stone Mtn park some day. I was told there was one once but I missed it. There are too many crazys out there for now, just be safe. I will continue to try to watch your videos.
Thank you idk why I never knew how they went together but learned from your video thanks for your time and effort was a good, quick and informative video 👍
If your are not in a combat situation and the weather is too cold, snowy or you need to keep your temperature, fold the woobie against the closed side of the poncho so the poncho has air entry by the snaps openings but the woobie es closed. Then take the tie laces of the woobie at the end and tie the feet tip with it, now you have a closed sleeping bag and the air will no entry in your feet. Remember! Do this only if you are not in a combat situation or in a military training course where you have to get on your feet very quickly.
Nice video young man, but still wished they made a simple either zippered hole or some kind of velcro hole, so that the liner could be worn under the poncho,
Morning guys. JB here from the south coast, UK. I sometimes use this system in summer and it works very well. You mention about the foot end being open ? If you get the center string and tie it to the corner ones, it gathers the end closed. Its not perfect but keeps some of the wind / rain out, and your feet are less likely to stick out. Regards JB. 👍
i know a dedicated sleeping bag takes up way more room, but when it snows and gets below 0 (~ -5 degrees Fahrenheit), i think it's worth taking for me. i think this works really well for light duty carry when every ounce matters.
The Canadian version (yes, we finally have our own!) has a zippered hole for wearing under the poncho or using as a sleeping bag/layer. They also have a nice zipper going all the way around for ease of making into a sleeping bag. Adds pretty much no weight they have those at first, but a whole lot of function. Keeps the draught and bugs out at the edges really well. This was a nice presentation, and by way of giving back, i’ll suggest something that you may already have in your sleeping systems. At least we do in Canada. We have something called the hood. It’s actually like a parka that just covers from about the armpits to the top of the head. It’s truly the answer for sleeping bags all year round. If your system doesn’t include one of these, it’s easy to make one. Just go to your favourite thrift shop and find a coat with a really nice hood, that does up well all along the neck. Take it home and have somebody mark A line all the way around the body as far as the armpits, but don’t include the armpits. If the code that you’ve chosen is made of down, for heaven sake, to keep your sanity make a seam all the way around above the place where you plan to make the cut, and one below place we plan to make the cut, before you cut anything, so that when you make the cut the feathers don’t go everywhere and make a huge mess. If you plan to use the zipper that comes on the parka, which May not be comfortable for everyone, you might wanna remove the zipper first, so that you can just trim and use it later. If you are a person without the skill to remove a zipper and sew the coat back up, and can live with less than a perfect look on your gear, it’s possible to just take a pair of scissors and carefully cut the zipper away, just on the other side of the teeth of the zipper, being very careful not to cut the coat itself. Once the top of the parka is cut off, you can decide how you’d like to finish The edges. For those who don’t like to have the feeling of a seam under them, you could just zigzag the edge or put a bias tape over the edge to in case it and finish it nicely. Before Sewing that casing or bottom hem in place, you will want a couple of pieces of half-inch elastic. Have a friend help you pin them To the bottom of your hood set up such that each piece goes under your arm and fastens to the front and the back. It should not be at all snug. Once you get the optimal set up that’s totally comfortable, catch the ends of that elastic in the hem/casing to hold it securely in place. This will make sure that if you turn over in your bag, that your hood will move with you. The Canadian style hood does not use the zipper, but we have a couple of nice pieces of Velcro sewn on to our hoods, which allows a lot of adjustability. There’s a piece at the top of the neckline, as well as pieces along the chest. Also, if you turn over on the Velcro, it’s not uncomfortable like it would be if you turned over on a zipper. They sew on with no difficulty, using the right needle for your machine, for the fabric and weight of the fabric. I recommend a more robust weight thread, for durability. If you want to use your zipper, this is a good time to fit it into the remaining garment. At the top of the zipper, you will want to have it just about An inch (2.2 cm) longer than you want to actually use it, so that you can take out the extra teeth off the extra length of the zipper, and once you double-check that you have your zipper pull in place, Then fold down the extra, toothless length and sew that, To keep the zipper from fraying and to keep the pool from coming off the top of the zipper completely. You can also put in a little metal stop there for that purpose. Adjust the elastic in the hood, tie off the toggle, tie a knot in the end of the elastic, and cut off the excess for safety reasons. In cold and wet weather, you’ll be super glad you took the hour or two it takes to put one of these together; even in warm weather, it’s kinda nice to have something besides your boots which may not be so clean, which to put your head; in places where ticks abound, it might be a small and easy measure to protect a person against ending up with Lyme disease.
@@robertsbushcraft : That’s a really key question you just asked. The reason for which you don’t wear a coat In your sleeping bag when it’s really cold, it’s because your sleeping bag is designed to work a very specific way. They are designed to hold a small amount of air around your body that’s warm, and to allow moisture from your body to transpire through to the outside. Wearing additional layers of clothing interferes with this. Almost everybody I know that sleeps in cold winter to Arctic conditions in a sleeping bag, sleeps in either a pair of pajamas, longjohns, or skivvies inside a sleeping bag liner, inside the sleeping bag. Anything else will just cause a person to freeze for the most part. So the trick is to have the right sleeping bag with the right protection underneath it to keep all the heat from dissipating from your body to the ground, as you know. And then beyond that, have just a small amount of air circulating directly around your body or your body with one layer of clothing. The only tip I can offer besides that, is when you get all dressed for bed at night, to take the liners out of your mukluks or boots, and put them in the sleeping bag below your feet if you’re fairly short, or next to your legs and feet if you’re tall. In the morning, any moisture that had built up in the liners will be gone (unless you put a plastic tarp or something like that around your bag or sleep with your head under the covers). For those who tend to sleep cold, it might not be a bad idea to fill a hot water bottle and toss it into the bag just a little bit ahead of yourself. Toss it down by the feet and let that warm up, and by the time you get into the bed you’ll be ready to pull it up to where your body goes. So, that’s why you don’t wear the whole parka In the bag when it’s really cold. There’s probably lots of other good reasons, but really, wearing one in The bag defeats the design of the bag that keeps you warm so that you can sleep well. It would likely also affect your ability to turn over to get comfortable in the middle of the night. There are probably other people who can make observations that’ll help you if you need more information about that. The reason for the hood set up is not just to keep your head neck and shoulders warm and away from insect life, but also to keep you from getting cold and putting your head Inside the bag. When a person is breathing inside the sleeping bag, it deposits a lot of moisture, which seems negligible at first, but which will probably defeat the moisture exchange rate of the bag, resulting in a damp, cold bag and a rotten night’s sleep. So if you’re a person without even basic sewing skills, perhaps you could do a skill swap with somebody who can sell, but maybe isn’t as outdoorsy and Rhonnie, I could use your help. You might get it done that way at no actual cost. I sure hope this helps :-)
I've read your story to make a 'hood' a few times and it's hard for me to understand the whole picture, maybe because English is not my first language. Maybe you can make a YT video of it, that would be great because i found your Hood story very interesting :-) Greets from the Netherlands
@@MrElecterik : Hello, Erik; Imagine wearing a coat with your hood up, and then imagine that someone draws a line across the body, Add about the level of your armpits, and cuts the coat off at the level of the armpits all the way around. So you’re left wearing a hood, and some shoulders over your head, neck, and shoulders. Since the rest of the coat is now fallen away, you get the friend who helped to cut off the coat to take a couple pieces of flat elastic and pass them under the armpit to attach the front in the back of the remainder of the code to each other. These loose elastics under your arms prevent it from falling off while you’re sleeping in your sleeping bag. Having a hood that you could have on while you sleep in the wintertime lets you keep your head out of the sleeping bag and keeps your body warm and minimize the condensation that you get in your sleeping bag. The idea of doing videos is something that I’m not enamoured of, as I did study videos and editing in university, and I know exactly how much work and commitment of time they involve. I just don’t have that kind of time to play with. So I hope this helps you out. If it’s still not clear to you, let me know and I’ll see if I can stick a couple of links there to show the military one that I have. It’ll give you a better idea. Since I have a good military hood, and I don’t actually know anybody else who doesn’t have one but once one, it would be a bit of a waste to have to cut up a coat to make a video, but if it’s absolutely necessary, perhaps I’ll see if I can find a really old one that’s being turfed. The more I think back, The more I remember that your winters are pretty much the same as ours, so perhaps I’ll be a bit flexible about that.
You’re gonna sweat in that. We always used the sleeping bag gortex bivy cover and the poncho liner. Perfect match for light weight packing and better functionality
You better believe you will! These ponchos breathe like trash bags. The newer USMC IBC (Improved Bivy Cover) is my "go-to". Thanks for watching and dropping a comment, Stan!
@@Rusted_Link sweating is your worst enemy in cold weather, because the sweat water is gonna get cold, maybe even freeze, which is why arctic sleep systems are not just "more layers" because that will make you sweat like crazy, it needs to be breathable so your body can expel excess heat thru the air and such
I love my poncho liner! I like to use it as a summer throw blanket with my cot when camping. I also like to fold it up and stow it on the inside of my Alice frame with a GP strap, as it makes a good (but slightly warm) cushion for your back when wearing an Alice pack. Unfortunately authentic USGI ponchos in good condition are getting harder to find, and many of the repro ones are not made to the same spec, so they don’t line up correctly with the liner.
Does the poncho liner itself have any water proofing? Or does it depend entirely on the poncho for its waterproofing? Also, how do you wash the poncho liner? Is it washing machine safe or do I need to use some other method?
Not really...it may have some repellency simply due to the nature of the materials its made of, but, I wouldn't consider it waterproof at all. I normally hand wash my poncho liner with Dawn dish detergent, but have on occasion put it in the washing machine on gentle cycle and then hung out to dry.
Well i think ist pretty good. Looks like its great for the late spring, summer, and early fall. Not too large a package. I bought a German flecktarn puptent. Maybe i can use one of the halves as a bivybag. It wont be as light though. Greetings, Jeff
Greetings, Jeff! Three season (2 and 1/2 in my opinion) is about all you can expect out of a roll like this. That's dependent on you (warm sleeper or colder sleeper) and clothing layers.
I don't know if this matters now but if you want that poncho liner to be more effective you'll want a zipper or velcro sewn in to the side. Use a Bivy Cover that is issued or aftermarket. The ponchos isn't made out of gortex or e-Vent so it won't vent air well. It's important because you don't want to be in Hawaii or Fort Polk (Louisiana) where it's extremely humid and wake up wet.
You're right, these ponchos do not vent AT ALL! There's a USMC issued woobie that has the zipper already sewn on that we'll pick up eventually. I prefer the newer USMC IBC (improved bivy cover) over the older MMSS woodland bivy. The face net alone on the IBC puts it head and shoulders over the woodland bivy.
The thing is, if it had a hole that velcrod closed or snapped, you could wear it underneath the poncho as an insulated rain poncho. I still love mine though
Great video. I think I would prefer to use the poncho as a tarp/bivy shelter and the woobie as a light blanket. I use the woobie under the wool blanket because it is softer.
Carry 2 ponchos and 1 liner in your ruck. You can button these up and keep them together while using your second poncho as an actual poncho by day and rain fly by night. This coupled with a blouse liner which is the same material as the poncho liner will definitely keep you warm in 45° and above.
If you have a waterproof poncho, almost none. I say almost because you may have some seepage from the hood area. The problem comes from condensation buildup from the inside (you).
@@robertsbushcraft one is for the bed role and the 2nd is for a rain fly. Or both can be tied together to make a tent. They are so light and easy to pack, why not 😃😉😎
Outstanding Brothers. After watching You and your Dad's Videos, I've been all in, Starting out with Milatery Surplus Gear. Thank you Both, I'm new at Roughing it, I always had a Cabin or a Motor Home, I was looking at the New improved Pouncho liner, It has the Zipper but I am not sure how it hooks together or if it has the Tie Strings and the Buttons or snaps, What do you guy's think, it I be better with the Normal one or the original. Please forgive me if I didn't read the Specs, or I didn't understand, maybe it could of been a Blanket liner, I am going to take another look at it. You Guy's are Awesome. Sincerely your freind from Mo Rick and God Bless you 🙏 and your family and God Bless America 🇺🇸 🙏 and God Bless all of the Great Veterans and First Responders.
You know, we have not picked up one with the zipper just yet. They do have the tie strings, and the zipper allows the liner to open up just like a normal woobie. If we can find one for the right price we'll probably pick up a couple. You can't go wrong with a woobie, zipper or no zipper!
Good video; thanks for sharing. Why are the poncho liners, especially in used condition, so awfully expensive nowadays? I used to see them on ebay for about 10 bucks apiece.
Good question. I'm thinking they are in high demand and probably in short supply. Surplus stores (that we've seen) are becoming less military surplus and more "tactical".
You can make this work in the cold with a wool blanket and a casualty blanket as additional layers. Even with 4 components its lighter than pretty much anything else that will take you to freezing temps
No it is not. There are dozens of options out there that are lighter and more compact than what you are describing. I have a down mummy with a great over-bag that is good to freezing EVEN IF you are a cold sleeper and it weighs 24 ounces. As much as I love wool,...my days of lugging a 50 pound pack are long gone. See you on the trail.
If you want a wearable woobie, get a woobie shirt; aka field jacket liner. They make/made woobie pants too. Stuff the body of the woobie shirt into one sleeve and it makes a perfect field pillow. Don't buy a used woobie unless you're going to wash it several times first. Some guys really love their woobies...
Great video! I use this set up in the summer (Southern California). When I'm higher up and/or heavy rain I use this set up with a bedroll and sleeping bag tucked inside. It helps keep the condensation off my down bag inside my tent. Happy trials! Liked and subbed Jack
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The story as I had heard it is that the poncho liner was originally intended to have a hole for your head so you can keep warm while wearing the poncho in cold rainy weather, but hey forgot to put the head hole in the blueprints. The manufacturer made a few thousand without the hole (as stated in the blueprints). These were issued out to troops nevertheless. For the second production run, they changed the blueprints to include the head hole. These were issued to the troops and they complained. They preferred it without the hole. They've been that way ever since. It all came down to troop preference.
Wanna bet? I was given one that someone had cut an ‘X’ into the center for their head to poke through! 🤣 I immediately took it to my guy and asked him to sew it up for me. He had a good laugh at it and didn’t even charge me for it 🤣👍
This is where the Swagman Roll poncho liner wins . It has zipped edges to form sleeping bag, it has hood to allow warmer wet weather clothing system too, still has all the ties……..better still in the cold get a Verastaluka insulated blanket or a yergan bag
Thankfully we're not camping in -16 degree spring weather down here in the lower 48! Yes sir, all multipurpose and all awesome. Thanks for stopping by to watch and comment Mr. Lonnie!
Alive yes, but those are "survival" ratings. If you sleep at -40C in that bag, you'll likely survive, providing the rescue party come along and rescues your behind. I can guarantee you wont be in any state to pack it up and walk away.
Fun video. I always liked the idea behind the system for improvising a bedroll but I'll guarantee no one has ever taken the time to combine them while patrolling, haha. Anyway, Happy Easter guys!
While patrolling? Your guess is as good as mine. Dad has told me about sleeping in them in fighting holes. It's a neat system but has very few comforts.
@@uberdan08 th-cam.com/video/HGxsHPJWOTA/w-d-xo.html HPMS for the win for me. Found a gray one in stock a few days ago. I must have bought the last one!
I'm not certain that ponchos are even issued anymore, thankfully, those poncho liners are. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment, Gillysaurxx! Semper Fi!
Sorry for the late reply on this. The best place in my opinion is Ebay. I know, it sounds crazy, but, I've had the best luck there. Most, if not all, of the gear we buy from there is what we see in the pictures posted by the seller. I prefer that shopping over the other sites that post a nice stock photo of "good condition" gear that in reality looks nothing like what they intend to send. If you can have some patience I think Ebay is the way to go. Another that I have had FANTASTIC results? Facebook Marketplace. People dump gear all of time for next to nothing.
@@tokillthedragon that’s weird, I went thru about a year and a half ago and nothing, some other guys are newer and they didn’t get them either, maybe it’s just a fort hood thing .
@@robertsbushcraft I bought a woobie in the rodhesian army pattern...I can't wait for it to arrive! I do not know if it will "pair" with my old (but pristine) portuguese army poncho (those that were rubberised inside)... I'll let you know how it will work...as your marines say: adapt, overcome, improvise!!! Stay well, stay safe!
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I’ve used this as my primary three season sleeping set up now for almost ten years in the infantry. Your brain bucket or assault pack makes a superior pillow. Also, in the pouring rain, you find a way to make yourself fit inside of it. It’s minimalist, extremely lightweight, packs up small, and has multiple uses.
You can easily turn that Ranger roll into a 4 season sleep bivy, if you add one of the grey or green wool blankets and one of the casualty blankets in between your poncho and woobie.
If you lay your out poncho flat, and then lay out one of the green or grey wool blankets on it, then one of the casualty blankets on that, THEN tie on your woobie on top like you normally would..so you have the wool blanket and casualty blanket in between your poncho and woobie..it will be infinitely warmer. With the woobie tied onto the poncho, it will hold the wool and casualty blankets held in there pretty nicely.
It wont be warm enough for 0° weather, and it won't keep you as warm as the modular sleep system will. But it will be ALOT warmer than just the regular Ranger roll with poncho and woobie, and it will definitely keep you warm enough to keep you alive in down to 32° degrees weather so you won't get hypothermia while you try to get a couple hours sleep in the field.
We would have Mommasan sew a zippered hole for our heads to be able to wear it as a liner with the poncho. Handy up on the Korean DMZ
That is something we just might end up doing to a couple of our liners.
Awesome I was wondering how your supposed to use them together as a poncho. Thank you!
While out on patrol, we too would have a local seamstress sew a zipper in the middle so we could attach the poncho and poncho liner together. When it came time to take a catnap, we would just lean up against something with our rifle across our lap, under the insulated poncho, and snooze away. It kept us warm and dry and ready for action.
I'm definitely going to mod the liner, I didn't realize when I bought it that the liner wasn't ment to be worn.
There are some for same with the zipper already added for your head like this one on amazon:
Dragoon Unlimited Ruggedized Zippered Trooper Woobie
It’s $60 though. It comes with a small woobie pillow but i would personally never waste space if my pack for such extra luxury
Good show and tell. Its one of my favorite pair of iteams. People dont get its a sleep set not a garment set. I use my woobie to add a few extra degrees of warmth to my wool blanket or sleeping bag in winter camps.
A sleep set it is! It's a true gem when paired with additional blankets or bags.
We need more youth like this young man.
I agree, Gabriel is one fine young man. Thank you for the encouragement, flippyhambone!
I almost never leave comments on youtube but now I have to. Thank you for the great demo mate! Answered all my questions. Ordered both. You are a great young man. Cheers from Greece!
Hot dog! Thank you for the compliment, beserko!
Uhh did you label this video wrong?
No sir! There is a reason that it does not have a hole in it.
thank you for showing how to connect it, it is amazing how little this occurs in these poncho vids on the tube. THANKS!
Glad it was helpful, Cipher-Tu Productions! I'm betting most don't know that's how it's done.
Great demonstration of how to use one of the best pieces of kit the U.S. military ever issued. Thanks for sharing guys, and keep it up. Good clean, educational entertainment is very enjoyable and getting harder to find these days. Much appreciated!
We appreciate the encourangement, JT!
What we used to do for the foot part is the rubber bag your issued for the sleeping bag is ditch the sleeping bag use the rubber bag and slip it over the portion to keep your feet dry and warm. Also the rubber bag is used to water proof your gear inside your Alice pack.
We've got a couple of those WP bags!
You are the only person I've ever heard with a voice that sounds like mine. You have a southern accent. But it was strange listening to this. I like the channel. Keep it up man.
That's awesome, Dr!
I served in the infantry & always wondered how the liner was intended to be used. We just used it as a blanket or inside the 3 layer sleeping bag. And never wore the poncho for rain protection, we wore a gortex jacket & put the poncho over our ruck sack. Alternate use for the poncho is a half shelter using bungie & 550 cords.
Thank you for your service, Josh! Official USGI ponchos are getting harder for us to find these days.
The infamous Ranger roll!🤜🤛🇺🇸🇺🇸
Right on!
My Dad served in Viet Nam and somewhere in this house I still have his poncho liner. I never knew what it was and didn't understand what the point of all the strings were for, LOL. I googled it tonight and found your video, now I know. Thanks
You are certainly welcome and we thank him for his service!
Thanks for the video guys, I always wondered about that. I have both the poncho and liner. I thought that maybe the liner would be used for cold rainy weather. Good to know that the only intention for the woobie was to make the sleep system. Happy Easter to you all.
We're glad we could help shed a little light on it, Jeff. Thanks for watching and leaving us a comment! Happy Easter to you too!
Thank you and your father for sharing knowledge. Now I can share with my son.
Someone has to teach our kids
You're welcome, Shawn!
Ahhh. I didn't know that. I figured it could double as a waterproof sleeping back but I thought it was to help keep it warmer in the poncho when moving too. I suppose someone crafty enough could just make the hole themselves by lining it up with their poncho befor making the cut and sew seems into where its cut to keep the layers of fabric closed up.
I'd never put a hole in mine, but apparently it's a popular thing to do.
@@robertsbushcraft I'm very on the fence. I think I might just not do it.
6:55 the new MARPAT ones have a dual use model that actually has a zipper which can negate a bit of the issue with no snaps at the “feet”
Great video. Your dad should be proud of you. You are 10-8! What I would like to see is not only a slit for your head but an identical hood swen on to the liner for the cold with a couple of the shoelace attachment points to keep them together at the head. You lose a lot of heat through your head. If it is not that cold you could just flop the inner hood behind you. Otherwise the benefit of just using the liner for a woobe is minimal. If you know anyone that is that talented to do the sewing work I would be willing to pay for that work. BTW I am in E. Tn. Where are you if you dont mind saying.
I've sort of tried wearing the poncho liner beneath the poncho during a cold rain and I had to remove it. It was too hot and the poncho does not breathe. We are in northeastern NC.
@@robertsbushcraft I still want one at least with the slit for my head. I am in the Foothills of the Great Smokey Mountains. I am probably older than your dad, but I hope to be able to shake your hand one day. I am hoping there will be another prepping event again in the campground at Stone Mtn park some day. I was told there was one once but I missed it. There are too many crazys out there for now, just be safe. I will continue to try to watch your videos.
Thank you idk why I never knew how they went together but learned from your video thanks for your time and effort was a good, quick and informative video 👍
Glad I could help, JDubbz32!
If your are not in a combat situation and the weather is too cold, snowy or you need to keep your temperature, fold the woobie against the closed side of the poncho so the poncho has air entry by the snaps openings but the woobie es closed. Then take the tie laces of the woobie at the end and tie the feet tip with it, now you have a closed sleeping bag and the air will no entry in your feet. Remember! Do this only if you are not in a combat situation or in a military training course where you have to get on your feet very quickly.
Good tips, Dal!
@@robertsbushcraft My pleasure bro 🤙🏼
Nice video young man, but still wished they made a simple either zippered hole or some kind of velcro hole, so that the liner could be worn under the poncho,
Thank you, GunsofMassEffect. An opening for your head seems to be the popular opinion!
@@robertsbushcraft My pleasure, keep up the good work.
Morning guys. JB here from the south coast, UK. I sometimes use this system in summer and it works very well. You mention about the foot end being open ? If you get the center string and tie it to the corner ones, it gathers the end closed. Its not perfect but keeps some of the wind / rain out, and your feet are less likely to stick out. Regards JB. 👍
A fantastic observation and suggestion, Jim-Bob.
i know a dedicated sleeping bag takes up way more room, but when it snows and gets below 0 (~ -5 degrees Fahrenheit), i think it's worth taking for me.
i think this works really well for light duty carry when every ounce matters.
Agreed, every ounce does matter!
The Canadian version (yes, we finally have our own!) has a zippered hole for wearing under the poncho or using as a sleeping bag/layer. They also have a nice zipper going all the way around for ease of making into a sleeping bag. Adds pretty much no weight they have those at first, but a whole lot of function. Keeps the draught and bugs out at the edges really well.
This was a nice presentation, and by way of giving back, i’ll suggest something that you may already have in your sleeping systems. At least we do in Canada. We have something called the hood. It’s actually like a parka that just covers from about the armpits to the top of the head. It’s truly the answer for sleeping bags all year round. If your system doesn’t include one of these, it’s easy to make one. Just go to your favourite thrift shop and find a coat with a really nice hood, that does up well all along the neck. Take it home and have somebody mark A line all the way around the body as far as the armpits, but don’t include the armpits. If the code that you’ve chosen is made of down, for heaven sake, to keep your sanity make a seam all the way around above the place where you plan to make the cut, and one below place we plan to make the cut, before you cut anything, so that when you make the cut the feathers don’t go everywhere and make a huge mess. If you plan to use the zipper that comes on the parka, which May not be comfortable for everyone, you might wanna remove the zipper first, so that you can just trim and use it later. If you are a person without the skill to remove a zipper and sew the coat back up, and can live with less than a perfect look on your gear, it’s possible to just take a pair of scissors and carefully cut the zipper away, just on the other side of the teeth of the zipper, being very careful not to cut the coat itself.
Once the top of the parka is cut off, you can decide how you’d like to finish The edges. For those who don’t like to have the feeling of a seam under them, you could just zigzag the edge or put a bias tape over the edge to in case it and finish it nicely. Before Sewing that casing or bottom hem in place, you will want a couple of pieces of half-inch elastic. Have a friend help you pin them To the bottom of your hood set up such that each piece goes under your arm and fastens to the front and the back. It should not be at all snug. Once you get the optimal set up that’s totally comfortable, catch the ends of that elastic in the hem/casing to hold it securely in place. This will make sure that if you turn over in your bag, that your hood will move with you.
The Canadian style hood does not use the zipper, but we have a couple of nice pieces of Velcro sewn on to our hoods, which allows a lot of adjustability. There’s a piece at the top of the neckline, as well as pieces along the chest. Also, if you turn over on the Velcro, it’s not uncomfortable like it would be if you turned over on a zipper. They sew on with no difficulty, using the right needle for your machine, for the fabric and weight of the fabric. I recommend a more robust weight thread, for durability.
If you want to use your zipper, this is a good time to fit it into the remaining garment. At the top of the zipper, you will want to have it just about An inch (2.2 cm) longer than you want to actually use it, so that you can take out the extra teeth off the extra length of the zipper, and once you double-check that you have your zipper pull in place, Then fold down the extra, toothless length and sew that, To keep the zipper from fraying and to keep the pool from coming off the top of the zipper completely. You can also put in a little metal stop there for that purpose. Adjust the elastic in the hood, tie off the toggle, tie a knot in the end of the elastic, and cut off the excess for safety reasons.
In cold and wet weather, you’ll be super glad you took the hour or two it takes to put one of these together; even in warm weather, it’s kinda nice to have something besides your boots which may not be so clean, which to put your head; in places where ticks abound, it might be a small and easy measure to protect a person against ending up with Lyme disease.
Sewing for me has always been hit or miss. Is the reason for cutting the parka down just to save weight?
@@robertsbushcraft : That’s a really key question you just asked. The reason for which you don’t wear a coat In your sleeping bag when it’s really cold, it’s because your sleeping bag is designed to work a very specific way. They are designed to hold a small amount of air around your body that’s warm, and to allow moisture from your body to transpire through to the outside. Wearing additional layers of clothing interferes with this. Almost everybody I know that sleeps in cold winter to Arctic conditions in a sleeping bag, sleeps in either a pair of pajamas, longjohns, or skivvies inside a sleeping bag liner, inside the sleeping bag. Anything else will just cause a person to freeze for the most part.
So the trick is to have the right sleeping bag with the right protection underneath it to keep all the heat from dissipating from your body to the ground, as you know. And then beyond that, have just a small amount of air circulating directly around your body or your body with one layer of clothing.
The only tip I can offer besides that, is when you get all dressed for bed at night, to take the liners out of your mukluks or boots, and put them in the sleeping bag below your feet if you’re fairly short, or next to your legs and feet if you’re tall. In the morning, any moisture that had built up in the liners will be gone (unless you put a plastic tarp or something like that around your bag or sleep with your head under the covers).
For those who tend to sleep cold, it might not be a bad idea to fill a hot water bottle and toss it into the bag just a little bit ahead of yourself. Toss it down by the feet and let that warm up, and by the time you get into the bed you’ll be ready to pull it up to where your body goes.
So, that’s why you don’t wear the whole parka In the bag when it’s really cold. There’s probably lots of other good reasons, but really, wearing one in The bag defeats the design of the bag that keeps you warm so that you can sleep well. It would likely also affect your ability to turn over to get comfortable in the middle of the night. There are probably other people who can make observations that’ll help you if you need more information about that.
The reason for the hood set up is not just to keep your head neck and shoulders warm and away from insect life, but also to keep you from getting cold and putting your head Inside the bag. When a person is breathing inside the sleeping bag, it deposits a lot of moisture, which seems negligible at first, but which will probably defeat the moisture exchange rate of the bag, resulting in a damp, cold bag and a rotten night’s sleep. So if you’re a person without even basic sewing skills, perhaps you could do a skill swap with somebody who can sell, but maybe isn’t as outdoorsy and Rhonnie, I could use your help. You might get it done that way at no actual cost.
I sure hope this helps :-)
@@daphneraven6745 awesome thanks 👍
I've read your story to make a 'hood' a few times and it's hard for me to understand the whole picture, maybe because English is not my first language. Maybe you can make a YT video of it, that would be great because i found your Hood story very interesting :-)
Greets from the Netherlands
@@MrElecterik : Hello, Erik; Imagine wearing a coat with your hood up, and then imagine that someone draws a line across the body, Add about the level of your armpits, and cuts the coat off at the level of the armpits all the way around. So you’re left wearing a hood, and some shoulders over your head, neck, and shoulders.
Since the rest of the coat is now fallen away, you get the friend who helped to cut off the coat to take a couple pieces of flat elastic and pass them under the armpit to attach the front in the back of the remainder of the code to each other.
These loose elastics under your arms prevent it from falling off while you’re sleeping in your sleeping bag. Having a hood that you could have on while you sleep in the wintertime lets you keep your head out of the sleeping bag and keeps your body warm and minimize the condensation that you get in your sleeping bag.
The idea of doing videos is something that I’m not enamoured of, as I did study videos and editing in university, and I know exactly how much work and commitment of time they involve. I just don’t have that kind of time to play with. So I hope this helps you out.
If it’s still not clear to you, let me know and I’ll see if I can stick a couple of links there to show the military one that I have. It’ll give you a better idea. Since I have a good military hood, and I don’t actually know anybody else who doesn’t have one but once one, it would be a bit of a waste to have to cut up a coat to make a video, but if it’s absolutely necessary, perhaps I’ll see if I can find a really old one that’s being turfed. The more I think back, The more I remember that your winters are pretty much the same as ours, so perhaps I’ll be a bit flexible about that.
Mines old & well used, adds that Linus sleep comfort, eventually will get a proper poncho & new liner
Hopefully you'll be able to get one soon, these are great pieces of gear to have.
Great video. As long as I have been a Soldier, you would think I would have known this. I always wondered, "How do you line a poncho?"
Well I'm glad I could help! Thank you for your service, Kent!
You’re gonna sweat in that. We always used the sleeping bag gortex bivy cover and the poncho liner. Perfect match for light weight packing and better functionality
You better believe you will! These ponchos breathe like trash bags. The newer USMC IBC (Improved Bivy Cover) is my "go-to". Thanks for watching and dropping a comment, Stan!
Even at -12°?
@@Rusted_Link sweating is your worst enemy in cold weather, because the sweat water is gonna get cold, maybe even freeze, which is why arctic sleep systems are not just "more layers" because that will make you sweat like crazy, it needs to be breathable so your body can expel excess heat thru the air and such
@@teancrumpets5685 don't talk to me
@@Rusted_Link Hey
I love my poncho liner! I like to use it as a summer throw blanket with my cot when camping. I also like to fold it up and stow it on the inside of my Alice frame with a GP strap, as it makes a good (but slightly warm) cushion for your back when wearing an Alice pack.
Unfortunately authentic USGI ponchos in good condition are getting harder to find, and many of the repro ones are not made to the same spec, so they don’t line up correctly with the liner.
I love mine too! I keep one of these liners, along with a bivy, in my go bags.
Does the poncho liner itself have any water proofing? Or does it depend entirely on the poncho for its waterproofing?
Also, how do you wash the poncho liner? Is it washing machine safe or do I need to use some other method?
Not really...it may have some repellency simply due to the nature of the materials its made of, but, I wouldn't consider it waterproof at all. I normally hand wash my poncho liner with Dawn dish detergent, but have on occasion put it in the washing machine on gentle cycle and then hung out to dry.
The liner is NOT intended to be worn as clothing. It is intended to be a poncho liner/ light weigh sleeping bag.
Exactly!
Well i think ist pretty good. Looks like its great for the late spring, summer, and early fall. Not too large a package. I bought a German flecktarn puptent. Maybe i can use one of the halves as a bivybag. It wont be as light though.
Greetings,
Jeff
Greetings, Jeff! Three season (2 and 1/2 in my opinion) is about all you can expect out of a roll like this. That's dependent on you (warm sleeper or colder sleeper) and clothing layers.
Excellent demonstration !!
Thnxs for uploading and sharing
👍🏻🇺🇸
Thank you for watching it, 281!
What is the answer?
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I don't know if this matters now but if you want that poncho liner to be more effective you'll want a zipper or velcro sewn in to the side. Use a Bivy Cover that is issued or aftermarket. The ponchos isn't made out of gortex or e-Vent so it won't vent air well. It's important because you don't want to be in Hawaii or Fort Polk (Louisiana) where it's extremely humid and wake up wet.
You're right, these ponchos do not vent AT ALL! There's a USMC issued woobie that has the zipper already sewn on that we'll pick up eventually. I prefer the newer USMC IBC (improved bivy cover) over the older MMSS woodland bivy. The face net alone on the IBC puts it head and shoulders over the woodland bivy.
First video I've seen by you - subscribed straight away! Thank you
Hot dog! Thank you for that, Peaceful Warrior!
The thing is, if it had a hole that velcrod closed or snapped, you could wear it underneath the poncho as an insulated rain poncho. I still love mine though
This is true, Hiking Feral!
Great video. I think I would prefer to use the poncho as a tarp/bivy shelter and the woobie as a light blanket. I use the woobie under the wool blanket because it is softer.
That's a fantastic way to use that setup, Dale. In fact we do the exact same from time to time.
Carry 2 ponchos and 1 liner in your ruck. You can button these up and keep them together while using your second poncho as an actual poncho by day and rain fly by night. This coupled with a blouse liner which is the same material as the poncho liner will definitely keep you warm in 45° and above.
Good idea!
Outstanding Video! Semper Fi, Sir!
Thank you, Caroline! Semper Fi!
Great demo and explanation
Thanks for watching and leaving us a comment, BUSHCRAFT JOE!
Wishing your family a Happy Easter ✝️🇺🇸
From Los Angeles California USA. -Mr. Hahn
And a very happy Easter to you Mr. Hahn!
I've never use one, how much wicking is involved? How much water will it pull up from puddling if the woobie gets exposed to the ground?
If you have a waterproof poncho, almost none. I say almost because you may have some seepage from the hood area.
The problem comes from condensation buildup from the inside (you).
Well done sir. 🇺🇸
I suggest 2 ponchos and 1 liner.
Why two ponchos?
@@robertsbushcraft one is for the bed role and the 2nd is for a rain fly. Or both can be tied together to make a tent.
They are so light and easy to pack, why not 😃😉😎
Outstanding Brothers. After watching You and your Dad's Videos, I've been all in, Starting out with Milatery Surplus Gear. Thank you Both, I'm new at Roughing it, I always had a Cabin or a Motor Home, I was looking at the New improved Pouncho liner, It has the Zipper but I am not sure how it hooks together or if it has the Tie Strings and the Buttons or snaps, What do you guy's think, it I be better with the Normal one or the original. Please forgive me if I didn't read the Specs, or I didn't understand, maybe it could of been a Blanket liner, I am going to take another look at it. You Guy's are Awesome. Sincerely your freind from Mo Rick and God Bless you 🙏 and your family and God Bless America 🇺🇸 🙏 and God Bless all of the Great Veterans and First Responders.
You know, we have not picked up one with the zipper just yet. They do have the tie strings, and the zipper allows the liner to open up just like a normal woobie. If we can find one for the right price we'll probably pick up a couple. You can't go wrong with a woobie, zipper or no zipper!
@@robertsbushcraft Thank you Both, YOUR Dad and you, are Rock Stars 🌟 in my Mind. God Bless you 🙏 Both and your family
😎👍 a hug from Italy my friend!
Hugs back from the USA!
Good video; thanks for sharing. Why are the poncho liners, especially in used condition, so awfully expensive nowadays? I used to see them on ebay for about 10 bucks apiece.
Good question. I'm thinking they are in high demand and probably in short supply. Surplus stores (that we've seen) are becoming less military surplus and more "tactical".
Useable military surplu gear is trendier than ever. Popular= expensive.
In the day, I carried two ponchos, one for rain gear, one to sleep in. Now that we have gortex, I carry a gortex top jacket, and a bivvy sack.
That combo is what we use too!
Amazingly atmospheric music!
Ain't it cool? :D
Very well done video!
Thank you very much, Mike!
You can make this work in the cold with a wool blanket and a casualty blanket as additional layers. Even with 4 components its lighter than pretty much anything else that will take you to freezing temps
Fantastic tips there, Roy! Check out our cabin build: th-cam.com/video/4xSfak35yvk/w-d-xo.html
No it is not. There are dozens of options out there that are lighter and more compact than what you are describing. I have a down mummy with a great over-bag that is good to freezing EVEN IF you are a cold sleeper and it weighs 24 ounces. As much as I love wool,...my days of lugging a 50 pound pack are long gone. See you on the trail.
My Son had been in the Army for almost 20 years and says the easiest way to snap it closed is sit in it and snap from feet up. Nothing bunches up.
Right on, Kokopelau!
POG!!!!!! THE WOOBIE IS THE WORLDS GREATEST BLANKET!!!!
POG indeed! Agreed 100%
If you want a wearable woobie, get a woobie shirt; aka field jacket liner. They make/made woobie pants too. Stuff the body of the woobie shirt into one sleeve and it makes a perfect field pillow. Don't buy a used woobie unless you're going to wash it several times first. Some guys really love their woobies...
Thanks guys.
You're welcome, Lukus!
Great video! I use this set up in the summer (Southern California).
When I'm higher up and/or heavy rain I use this set up with a bedroll and sleeping bag tucked inside. It helps keep the condensation off my down bag inside my tent. Happy trials! Liked and subbed
Jack
Hey thanks, Jack!
Awesome music. What's it called and by who?
Desert Caravan by Aaron Kenny
GREAT DEMO YOU GUYS.....👍👍GREAT BIT OF KIT AND MORE THEN ONE USE OUTSTANDING HAVE A BLESSED DAY STAY SAFE AND TAKE CARE......Dean UK 👍👍 DID YOU CHECK OUT THAT PACK / WHAT DID YOU THINK 👍👍
Hey thanks Dean! No pack as of yet, we're waiting on being able to get back out into surplus stores and see if we can handle one.
@@robertsbushcraft WELL YOU GOOD PEOPLE STAY SAFE AND GOD BLESS TO YOU ALL 👍👍
@@deandunbar8856 Thanks Dean! I hope you and yours are safe from the virus and continue to be! Stay safe and God bless!
The story as I had heard it is that the poncho liner was originally intended to have a hole for your head so you can keep warm while wearing the poncho in cold rainy weather, but hey forgot to put the head hole in the blueprints. The manufacturer made a few thousand without the hole (as stated in the blueprints). These were issued out to troops nevertheless. For the second production run, they changed the blueprints to include the head hole. These were issued to the troops and they complained. They preferred it without the hole. They've been that way ever since. It all came down to troop preference.
Wanna bet? I was given one that someone had cut an ‘X’ into the center for their head to poke through! 🤣
I immediately took it to my guy and asked him to sew it up for me. He had a good laugh at it and didn’t even charge me for it 🤣👍
Right on!
Ha ha that easy. Good idea for a day camp or getting out an about. Nice one. An it doesn't look heavy??. Thanks for sharing an ya time lads. 🇺🇸🙏🇬🇧⛄😁👍
Not heavy at all, Andy. Those two pieces of gear are almost always with us. It's not the best in the world but it works!
@@robertsbushcraft that sounds about right mi friend 👍😁
Yeah I thought of that too .Great question I think
Thanks!
Dude great video! Well done.
Thank you kindly, Etienne!
You can add button snaps from any craft store
Thanks for the tip, Joe!
This is where the Swagman Roll poncho liner wins . It has zipped edges to form sleeping bag, it has hood to allow warmer wet weather clothing system too, still has all the ties……..better still in the cold get a Verastaluka insulated blanket or a yergan bag
That's pretty neat!
It is pretty cool, isn't it? A good rain poncho and liner are keepers!
I have the liner but no outer shell is it worth trying to find an outer shell or no
We used it this way in the Marines. 1992. We called it a ranger role
Right on!
Great video , thanks
Thank you and you're welcome, Thomas!
You could tie tactical toggles on for quick assembly.👍👍🇺🇸
One of our poncho liners has buttons and loops sewn on. It's pretty neat!
Outstanding video thanks
Glad you enjoyed it, William!
Where can I get the pouch that you keep that poncho liner in?
Ebay is the quickest and easiest: ebay.to/3pggPrg
where can I buy the button poncho
Good video; thanks.
You're welcome, Smcvay!
You can also buy a snap kit to give yourself an enclosed footbed.
Awesome tip, thanks Darrell!
Does anyone cut a hole in the poncho liner and wear it with the poncho? For extra warmth while you’re walking around?
I've seen a couple comments on this video where some have done exactly that. For me, I'd rather not.
Good vid, I just subscribed 😁
Oh, and consider the "wings of liberty" line stolen, that was outstanding!
Hey thanks, Scott!
What is the song during the intro??
Good job!
Thanks, @fredbustin3788!
woobie looks thin, is it warm?
It's magical.
Multipurpose. Awesome.
Thankfully we're not camping in -16 degree spring weather down here in the lower 48! Yes sir, all multipurpose and all awesome. Thanks for stopping by to watch and comment Mr. Lonnie!
To be honest, the hole for the head in the poncho liner would be very useful, because you could use it as a swagman.
Good point!
You never answered the question.
You should check out Canada's winter weather sleeping bag. Keeps you alive in -40°C.
Sounds like my kind of bag!
Alive yes, but those are "survival" ratings. If you sleep at -40C in that bag, you'll likely survive, providing the rescue party come along and rescues your behind. I can guarantee you wont be in any state to pack it up and walk away.
Not bad, I'm surprised about how good it seems as a stand in for a regular sleeping bag.
Thanks, bd319!
So...why doesn't it have a hole for your head?
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Fun video. I always liked the idea behind the system for improvising a bedroll but I'll guarantee no one has ever taken the time to combine them while patrolling, haha.
Anyway, Happy Easter guys!
Have you checked out the hill people mountain serape?
While patrolling? Your guess is as good as mine. Dad has told me about sleeping in them in fighting holes. It's a neat system but has very few comforts.
@@no1up dude, I don't know if I'd want that or the swag man roll more!
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HPMS for the win for me. Found a gray one in stock a few days ago. I must have bought the last one!
How is it that i was in the Marines and i never knew thats how my gear worked
I'm not certain that ponchos are even issued anymore, thankfully, those poncho liners are. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment, Gillysaurxx! Semper Fi!
Because you were a marine? Lol jk
Yeah, ex Canadian army. We were issued these as well but not the ponchos. We called them ranger blankets.
Okay video. Thanks
Hey thanks, Tom! You're welcome!
Do you have a favorite online source for military surplus?
Sorry for the late reply on this. The best place in my opinion is Ebay. I know, it sounds crazy, but, I've had the best luck there. Most, if not all, of the gear we buy from there is what we see in the pictures posted by the seller. I prefer that shopping over the other sites that post a nice stock photo of "good condition" gear that in reality looks nothing like what they intend to send. If you can have some patience I think Ebay is the way to go. Another that I have had FANTASTIC results? Facebook Marketplace. People dump gear all of time for next to nothing.
Why is it camo?
If I could see it, I might could tell you :) lol. It can be used as a shade.
if the rains not getting you wet, your own sweat will.... god i can still smell the seam sealant
Haha you've been there and done that! Right on!
And how!!!
Neat
Hey thanks, FrogInTheWaves!
What pack is that?
It's a USGI MOLLE butt pack: ebay.us/tozJXT
Sucks that they don’t issue those anymore, those two are super helpful.
They still issue ponchos and poncho liners.
@@tokillthedragon that’s weird, I went thru about a year and a half ago and nothing, some other guys are newer and they didn’t get them either, maybe it’s just a fort hood thing .
@@angelruiz6143 it might be. I went through Vicenza CIF last year and was issued one.
The cowboy way 😆
Right on!
Thanks - but it does seem to be a missed function.
I prefer it the way it was designed, to be used as a blanket. It appears to be fairly common to alter these liners to be worn beneath the poncho.
...I put a couple of clamps to close the foot box!!!
That's a good idea, GAUROCH2
@@robertsbushcraft
I bought a woobie in the rodhesian army pattern...I can't wait for it to arrive! I do not know if it will "pair" with my old (but pristine) portuguese army poncho (those that were rubberised inside)... I'll let you know how it will work...as your marines say: adapt, overcome, improvise!!!
Stay well, stay safe!
problem solved. Never knew how to use it.
Right on, Joe!
The woobie that is underneath you is wasted insulation. Put both layers of the woobie on top of you.
I wouldn't go so far as to say wasted. It does provide a little cushion and I'd burn up with two layers on me this time of the year.