Tree Trimming Mule | Roller Bearing Sarven Hubs | Engels Coach Shop
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- A mule that will stand on its back legs to reach tree leaves. Also, the 1857 Sarven Patent hub has been modernized for Timken roller bearings. I show the similarities and differences between the two centuries of design.
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As always a nice video for us all over the world to watch and learn from. Keep up the good work.
They did use pneumatic rivet guns back in the old days. I'm 75 and I have one older than me that still works fine. Sure saves strain on arthritic arm joints.
I never thought of peeing has anything but common practice and the only reasonable way to do certain tasks such as securing rivets and or bolts I’m 65 and have plenty of manual ball peen hammer‘s
Friday nights are best enjoyed by watching EngelsCoachShop. Since viewing The Twenty Mule Team build this has become a staple for this night. Just wondering where I can get a mule like the one in this video. Need some trees trimmed.
Dave I was wondering with all the different styles and types of wagons, if you could take the best bits from each and make an Engles wagon. Kind of the best of the best hybrid, with your own style thrown in. Be a neat thing to see. Just wondered if you ever thought about anything like that.
Now that is a great idea. I would love to see Dave do a project like that.
That's a GREAT IDEA!!!!!!!
That was actually tried with aircraft around WW2, I believe, and the end result was truly awful.
@@EngelsCoachShop That was one of my favorite video series. I mean if I had to pick a favorite. I truly enjoy all of your videos. Thanks for video'n
Another fine video think you for posting .
Video quality and editing on Dave's videos are professional and that combined with seeing one highly skilled craftsman turn out these wagon wheels and other projects he works on is a privilege that has to be appreciated.
@fasx56 - You're absolutely right !! Dave is certainly a perfectionist !! That's why I admire and respect his skills !!
It amazes me, who always seeks a better stronger way of repairing or building things, how ingenious and perfect things of yesteryear were made.
I've been told that mules do eat small tree branches from time to time. It's still so cute to watch. Thanks for sharing that mule having lunch. It was fun to watch.
All the other Mules are like SHOWOFF!!!!!🤣🤣🤣
Dave I know you like to use old methods, but wouldn't an air operated riveter save your body from all the hand hammering? Also it would be quicker when doing as many hubs. Great video. THX
Like your reply. Your shop and what you're most comfortable with.
I want to know how'd he aligned the outer hub holes so perfectly with the inner holes.... prior to drilling!
@@robozstarrr8930 The hub holes are centered directly on the line where two spokes touch on each side of the hub. Once the first hole is checked on the underside and drilled on that seam, the rest of the holes fall into line naturally.
@@apolloreinard7737 ah, so there is an alignment notch within the hubs, missed that, thanks
Boeing used to use a one-shot riveter. All it did was upset a rivet in one hit, one pull of the trigger. It was called the BAP gun. Hand held.
I haven't seen a Stanley Tape with 1/32" markings on both sides before now. Nice modern alternative as it seems to still encourage the old method while providing some nice wheel bearings for just about zero maintenance on the hubs. I wonder if they also provide less drag on the animals.
Has any of your craftsmanship ended up in the movies?
@@EngelsCoachShop Cool, hope you relieved some recognition for your efforts.
This episode is just fantasic! After 6 min it is clear that the editing and camerawork is reaĺy thought through. Just wonderfuly done.
A marriage of handcraft and videography
You certainly have the touch creating symmetry in the rabbit hollows. It's such a pleasure watching a master craftsman taking time to ensure cosmetic appeal !!
Thanks for sharing,
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Funny about your closing comment about watching old Westerns... Last week I was watching Open Range and because of all your videos, I found myself pausing it to study the vehicles. Besides the chuck wagon there is a nice assortment of passenger vehicles in the town. And when Boss and Charlie first approach the town there is a shot of the freight wagons (they meet the freighters later) that kinda look like junior borax wagons.
Thanks fer postin'.
That’s a great film. The authenticity went into the set construction also, the scene where he buys the chocolate in the mercantile store...check out the contents on the shelves...one of the best westerns ever made imo.
Of all the tedious repetitive processes you engage in,,, peening rivets has to be the most tedious. I salute your patience and attitude. I also do not believe I have ever seen a mule with that much energy.
A 5/16 rivet is as big as I want to work cold.
@@EngelsCoachShop I'm working on a tool for my air chisel
I do hope you literally didn't "get a kick out the mule", it would be rather painful!
Last year I bought a nice bull from my neighbor. After a month or two I asked him if it was part giraffe. Sent him a picture of it eating trees. But that mule on his hind legs is pretty good.
An adaption of the phrase "Grass always greener on the other side of the ...tree??
Just love watching you videos , the way you drill upwards and the holes line up is amazing..!..!
I got a kick out of a mule once.
Still hurts.
Well Mr. Dave, once again watching you preform some more magic with your tools and knowledge, it was just like looking at ME in a mirror. Boy WE do some good work.!! Have you got any Cut Thoughts for dinner yet? ( GETTER DONE son), And also by the way, just about all I own for shirts are those Wranglers ( Snaps, ONLY). Take care Mr. Dave, God Bless. Rick
@@EngelsCoachShop Yes "Wangler" they do make blue denim shirts with buttons, JUNK!!! With all the people giving U all those AT-A-BOY'S (well deserved I hate to add) some one HAS to, other then Mrs. Dave, help keep you down to earth. Go do some Fly fishing Mr. Dave Rick
I've heard that mules are smart and have seen branches fed to goats and pigs. Appreciate that they used rivets as opposed to bolts. Don't want a nut backing off and the wheel falling apart in the middle of nowhere. I'd rather buy a wheel fit by you than one than one assembled. Thanks for sharing.
Every time that mule bites off another branch, there's another mule looking at it going, "Dude, what are you doing?"
Ahhhhh ! Friday evening , sit down enjoy some wood and iron work , have nice refreshment🍻 after long hot humid day , just finished few my own projects of making my own Axe and 8lb Maul handles . Always so satisfying taking nothing and repurposing it into something beautiful and usefull. In your case keeping a craft well alive and very satisfying to watch and hear the explanation how these are not only made but a history lesson to boot ,
Well done Sir !
Thanks for sharing with us once again !
Great hammer work..I usually go home with my holding hand beat up worse than what I was pounding on.
A whole new meaning to 'Labour Intensive'! Canadian spelling.
Did you mean proper English? ; + )
@@nathanadrian7797 Not necessarily, but it applies.
he identifies as a giraffe 🤣🤣
Thank you for another nice educational video. It's always a pleasure to watch you work. May I ask where you get your spokes and hubs through? As always looking forward to seeing more of your videos, thank you.
Dave, I don't like riveting due to arthritic hands and wrists and I don't make a very neat job either, with the peened over domes looking more like a squashed fried egg. I decided to make myself a tool using a cheap old worn out air chisel bit. I cut off the head and used a carbide die grinder to make a dome shaped recess in the shaft. Now, using an air chisel as a mini-riveting hammer, I find it takes me a fraction of the time and I get almost as neat a finish as you get by hand.
I recall using such a ready made finishing punch in metal shop in high school in the '60's. Did make for a nice looking rivet.
I've seen deer on their hind legs eating leaves on trees at my sons cottage just like that mule. Amazing.
I would get intoxicated and make myself susceptible to an army of mosquitoes with the intention of exterminating them with my blood to be able to freehand drill straight holes the way you do. That's beautiful to watch and something I still struggle with as a master craftsman. Close? Yeah. Straight holes between two established bolt holes? Rarely, if never.
I'm a woodworker and really enjoy watching your craft. But is it just me or do others cringe when you hit wood with a ball peen hammer instead of a deadblow. I know it's a woodwoorker thing. Thank you.
Nice work on those spokes to make them fit the roller bearing hub. You must have seen a wide variety style of hubs since with the CAD assisted milling machines there is probably more styles coming out.
A question that I had watching you deciding on what diameter rivet to install, have you found that there is a difference between using a threaded bolt vs. a solid rivet? Reason for asking is that with threads rather than solid steel there probably is a difference in tensile strength and also more surface area for rust to form on the threads possibly making a difference over the years of the rivets losing some of their compression strength. As a retired Engineer my curiosity just makes me wonder the affects of different materials that go into work in restoring various types of wagon wheels. I enjoy your channel and love seeing all the hand crafted machines and jigs that you have fabricated to make the excellent projects shown, thanks for variety of projects and the quality of the videos.
On the new hub you used nuts and bolts, coukd you use nuts and bolts on the old design or do they have to be rivets.
One the new hubs, did you ever have one of the mortise walls snap off from the pressure of the spoke being hammered in? The casting looks a bit lean as it tapers toward the center of the hub. Not a criticism; just curious.
I think your drill must have some sort of satellite navigation, my drill won't do that :(
That mule looked a little chubbier that the others. Smart mule.
Love your videos
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48 rivets, all in a day's work... presumably. Your video editing skills have well matched your coach-building craft, I found that part... my apologies, I can't resist it: riveting!
I was surprised at the fact that the un-finished rivets do not shake loose and fall out while you are riveting.
As always, thank you very much for sharing this with us!
wonderful high-definition video what seems to explain how gradually in a step by step process the whole wheel was made out of steel. Actually, even the first cars still had spokes made out of wood.
If chariot-racing were ever to make a comeback, Engels would be the new Ferrari!
Looks like the mule knows something the others don't. Dave, did you teach that mule to do that?
I find myself wishing you had a hydraulic press to schmoosh those rivets down... but 5/16" would really take some Push! :-) Thanks, Mr. Dave!!
Certainly would be easier on the ears than the compressed air option.
I was feeling like I missed something all the week and couldn't put my finger on it, this was it this episode, I couldn't believe it I missed this. So I took 7 lashes 1 for each day, and a promise not to miss again. lol
Thanks for education!! I'll remember to look for the differences when I'm around wagons, and the occasional early automobile. You would be surprised what I come by. Recently looked at a pre -1910 Maxwell. Just looked at a picture I took and it has Sarven hubs........
Love that mule - knows what he wants and goes for it!
You've probably covered it before - and I've probably seen it (but not remembering it now) - but how do you line up the flanges before drilling? It's there a registration of some sort?
Cool video!
He's lining it up over the split between the adjacent spokes. Half a hole in each one.
@@lunkydog Cool! Thanks!
This video looks like you put more work into filming and editing and it shows; well done. Looks very professional.
I wish I had your knowledge and ability to do what you do. Love the video as always was very interesting and informative!!
Have you ever considered a pneumatic tool for cold peening those rivets?
YUP I AM ALWAYS AMAZED AT HOW EASY YOU MAKE EVERY ASPECT OF BUILDING A HORSE/MULE OR EVEN TURKEY DRAWN WAGON AND WHEELS SEEM.I KNOW IT IS NOWHERE AS EASY AS YOU MAKE IT LOOK.
THAT'S THAT CRAFTSMAN THING AGAIN ,COMING INTO PLAY !
GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS
GODSPEED
My but that rivetting looks tedious! Interesting but tedious. I am surprised you don't have some ancient machine somewhere in the workshop to do it. Beautiful work as always
Yes with higher production an air hammer with a riveting mandrel would be nice.
JIM
I've done worse - imagine changing the blades of a knife for a combine harvester by hand, including chopping off the old blades!
Well my Friday evening is now complete with a good refreshing Mr Engels coach shop video to watch. Always a pleasure too watch you work your magic with a hammer and tape ruler. I do agree with other viewer's on maybe trying a air riveter. I do appreciate old fashioned hand crafted made items and seeing how it was done in there day. Be careful with those joints lol. Our old friend Mr Aurther itis isn't kind too us older guy's. I'll be waiting for the next process in building techniques Mr Engels keep up the awesome work sir .👍👍
@@EngelsCoachShop It does to some degree, but I simply accept it, almost embracing it even though I do not want it. As long as I can still do what I do I'm still winning the game- the pain simply makes the wins even sweeter to me.
Did you go to film makers school or take courses in videography? Your editing and therefore the secondary shots work really well in telling the "story" of what goes on in your shop.
I get the feeling that not a whole lot of footage winds up on the editing room floor.
Thanks again for yet another really good video. I always enjoy the "mental vacation" of watching a true craftsman sharing his trade.
Always fascinating, Mr. Engle, thanks so much for sharing.
Mule just self worming, mule home medicine.
I often find myself examining the wheels in TV n movie Closeups.
I hope the "kick" you got out of the mule was figurative!
Your videos are a real pleasure and I watch them as soon as you publish them.
Some really clean and sturdy wheels
A joy to watch as always and educational as well. I also appreciate that gentle reminder to use hearing protection. Well done.
The core of these hubs must get wet, especially if left in the rain. Surprised they don't rot over time. You don't put copper green oil on them just in case?
You have more patience than Job.
Dude how can you still hear?
It is awesome seeing a real craftsman use some modern tools and tools he has manufactured to make his profession better and less time consuming yet still turn out replicated wagons of years gone by that are more usable than the original design due to better quality in design and quality parts due to skilled craftsmen learning and teaching others too . Thank you so much for sharing your trade and knowledge with us.
I use to love going to Mule Days in Bishop when I lived in Calif.
carriage bolts in a carriage. thanks once again.
You got trees? Buy that mule!
Man, he has to have one very sore arm after a day of peening over rivets!
Easy answer on the drill query Grandpa Dan, Dave watches the doughnut, not the hole.
Beautiful as always ❤️🇺🇸❤️
Bravo respekt 🤝❤🤝
I really enjoy you taking the fascinating videos. Fantastic. Thank you
The mules... a perfect video with a wise giraf lesson - all the rest was bonus to watch 🙏
My wife and I took a ride on the mail boat out of Old Forge NY in the Adirondack park. All the trees around the lakes' edges had their branches pruned to the same height above the water. It turns out, that height was how high the deer could reach when standing on the ice when the lakes were frozen in the winter!
Mishn0 I’ve love the Adirondacks and the old general store in old Forge
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Mishn0 I live in Mew Mexico now long ways to drive for Wings
@@nealfigary3288 Some things are worth the effort!
Amazing skill !!
Once again, thanks for sharing! :-))
A couple of questions if you would indulge me.
Is the wood for the spokes Ash again?
Do the spokes change in length over time with use? if so how is this compensated for?
I know that wood will move with humidity but the most movement is perpendicular to the way the grain runs, so the width of the spokes would change more with humidity than the length of the spokes, does this come into you building of the wheels?
I build chairs and I have to think about it a little bit.
Love the videos, they make me want to work even harder at my own stuff.
Cheers from Tokyo!
More Mules please.
The fastest hammer in Montana!
Is that the same kind of wheels used on early cars?
In several of those westerns and get togethers with wagons and buggies I see many of them a mix of "just make it work" when it comes to hubs/wheels. Lots do not match and many are way wobbly loose, but they get the job done.
Sensacional, monta-se os raios como um quebra-cabeça!!!
ansom work there pard real nice work
Have any use for 8 point sockets? Fits square nuts & I used them on pipe plugs up to 3/4". Watching you use a wrench & wondered if this would help on some of the tighter spots.
Along with all your other talents, you must have a built in level in your eyes! How you drill from both sides perfectly is amazing!
Maybe he will tell us how he does it.
@@mark9765 In one video, he showed us. He put a square up by his drill bit, showing it squared up side to side and then front to back. Notice also he doesn't drill all the way through in one go. First half way from this side, half way from that side and the finally all the way through, straightening out any minor misalignment.
I'll wait for Mr Engel to correct me. Pretty sure I'm dead wrong!! Hahahah
You my friend are a man of many talents. Love watching a true craftsman at work. Just wish I was younger so I could try and get a apprenticeship with you. Lol
Where do you get the energy to do what you do and still upload video?
Lol, sometimes.
I'm surprised you don't have some sort of pneumatic rivet gun. That's a lot of hammering.
Guessing the roller bearing hubs are used for reproduction stuff like Central Park tourist rides or Disneyland stuff- less maintenance, but clearly not original looking.
David you are truly a master craftsman but you really should have an apprentice to do the menial tasks...I'm over 50 and in the uk but I'd love to come a learn from you so there must be someone else like me out there ?..... please keep up the fantastic work.
Hub halves should have been aligned using a stub axle before drilling. Guessing like you did will definitely create a misaligned hub.
The artistry and exquisite attention to detail displayed can only be enjoyed by craftsmen in similar pursuits who aspire to do what you do in yours. Salud!
What happened to my square nuts? This modern stuff is driving me crazy. Stay safe
By putting his finger on a hole in the flange below the wheelwright can tell it aligns with the hole in the top flange. 🤔 Amazing. Simply amazing. 🙄
kool, I did not know they still made hubs and modern to boot. thanks.
Watching you form those rivets makes my arms ache, I think you need a bigger hammer and or a mechanical device to take out all that hard work.
I notice that many, if not all, of the rivet holes land between the spokes. Does drilling a hole through this area weaken the spokes to any appreciable degree?
A lot of work, and wonderful result Thank you !!!