Nice. Dangerous concept. You really have to know the brakes on the plane, which will be a function of both the plane model and your controls. I think toe brakes (American Lend-Lease and many German planes) may give you a bit more control if you have peddles. The dominant (Russian & Brit Lend-Lease) differential wheel brakes are on/off, but at least they seem to be uniformly rather weak. Per a comment below this sets up a "touch-and-go" (forget what you Aussies call that) to get back in the air if the airfield is under attack, or you just want to practice approaches.
I would call it a touch and go too :-) Regarding the brakes it really depends on how fast you want to stop...you should watch some short field landing competition videos to see the insanely short distances that can be pulled off...although some guys strike their props braking too heavily so it's a delicate balancing act if you aim to use enough brakes to keep the tailwheel up
Thanks Cid, yeah I'll definitely be making videos using BoS/BoM. The thing is I just use whichever sim is appropriate for what I want to teach because they each their pros/cons when using them.
Hey Requiem, just practicing these and I’m defo carrying too much energy as I’m bouncing. I’m approaching with 20 degree of flap which is quicker to retract for a touch and go. Is that ok or should I be putting in full? Full seems a bit full stop to me. Also to lose energy I’ll just try holding off super gently/level and let the energy bleed off and see how it fairs, I think I’m trying to land with too much lift available. Super cool videos though, I could practice this stuff for ages 😅
There's tradeoffs using more/less flaps. Having more flaps out lets you have a slower approach speed but if you use less flaps you'll need to fly a bit faster. If you're comfortable coming to a full stop after doing a wheel landing at flaps 20 then by all means go for it. You could even do zero flap landings this way if you want, just whatever works for you. It's always a good idea to land any plane at various flap settings to get a feel for how the approach differs. You never know when the flap setting you always land with won't be available for whatever reason.
thank you for showing this technique. i will try the wheel landing on IL2 tonight. are you using DCS? is a multiplayer experience like in IL2 Bos/Bom already possible? have a nice day o7
Hi Carvion, I use DCS and IL-2 BoS/BoM depending on what I want to fly. I've used DCS for multiplayer which is pretty fun as well. It's just a different kettle of fish in terms of planeset, terrain, and eras.
How do i know which plane to do this landing or a regular landing (in IL2 BoX specifically) or does it not really matter (Iknow you said taildragger but not sure)?
This technique can be performed in any taildragger. It's a personal preference as to whether you choose to do this or a regular 3 point landing. I'll use it if I have a faster approach speed for whatever reason or if I want better visibility over the nose to possibly avoid anything that may be on or could enter the runway.
I was watching it using my phone's small display and i was wandering: how this guy is able to fly P-51 in BoS? Is he some kind of sikret donator with extra early access to Battle of Bodenplatte or what? And why noone - exept me - noticed this Mustang. Than i opened the video on my PC...
It's all down to personal preference in how you want to land. For example, some people like to use them if there are strong winds or if they want to maintain better visibility down the runway. It just gives you another option to use when landing depending on the situation.
Can the 2 wheel landing also make it easier to change your mind and get back in the air if you spot an enemy? I have gotten back to the field in the new BoS career mode to find out base under attack at least twice.
@@acdcdave1387 Definitely. Think of go-arounds like takeoffs with a really strong starting headwind; a 3-point landing essentially forces you into the first 100 or so km/h of takeoff, meaning you have to slam the throttle to counteract the drag of a high AoA; while a 2-pointer means you're just 20-ish km/h from lifting off again, at a basically neutral AoA. The downside, of course, is that 2-pointers take up a lot more runway space, but as long as you're not on a carrier you should be fine :P
Another great video. Landing the P-51 on DCS is tricky, but your videos have helped out.
Nice. Dangerous concept. You really have to know the brakes on the plane, which will be a function of both the plane model and your controls. I think toe brakes (American Lend-Lease and many German planes) may give you a bit more control if you have peddles. The dominant (Russian & Brit Lend-Lease) differential wheel brakes are on/off, but at least they seem to be uniformly rather weak.
Per a comment below this sets up a "touch-and-go" (forget what you Aussies call that) to get back in the air if the airfield is under attack, or you just want to practice approaches.
I would call it a touch and go too :-) Regarding the brakes it really depends on how fast you want to stop...you should watch some short field landing competition videos to see the insanely short distances that can be pulled off...although some guys strike their props braking too heavily so it's a delicate balancing act if you aim to use enough brakes to keep the tailwheel up
Interesting. The only thing you didn't mention is why on earth anyone would want to carry out such an awkward and dangerous procedure?
Good to see you making vids again. Hopefully we'll see some more BOS/BOM vids? :D
Thanks Cid, yeah I'll definitely be making videos using BoS/BoM. The thing is I just use whichever sim is appropriate for what I want to teach because they each their pros/cons when using them.
Hey Requiem, just practicing these and I’m defo carrying too much energy as I’m bouncing. I’m approaching with 20 degree of flap which is quicker to retract for a touch and go. Is that ok or should I be putting in full? Full seems a bit full stop to me. Also to lose energy I’ll just try holding off super gently/level and let the energy bleed off and see how it fairs, I think I’m trying to land with too much lift available. Super cool videos though, I could practice this stuff for ages 😅
There's tradeoffs using more/less flaps. Having more flaps out lets you have a slower approach speed but if you use less flaps you'll need to fly a bit faster.
If you're comfortable coming to a full stop after doing a wheel landing at flaps 20 then by all means go for it. You could even do zero flap landings this way if you want, just whatever works for you. It's always a good idea to land any plane at various flap settings to get a feel for how the approach differs. You never know when the flap setting you always land with won't be available for whatever reason.
In what situations would I want to use this type of landing instead the traditional 3-point landing?
When you want better visibility during landing
thank you for showing this technique. i will try the wheel landing on IL2 tonight. are you using DCS? is a multiplayer experience like in IL2 Bos/Bom already possible? have a nice day o7
Hi Carvion, I use DCS and IL-2 BoS/BoM depending on what I want to fly. I've used DCS for multiplayer which is pretty fun as well. It's just a different kettle of fish in terms of planeset, terrain, and eras.
How do i know which plane to do this landing or a regular landing (in IL2 BoX specifically) or does it not really matter (Iknow you said taildragger but not sure)?
This technique can be performed in any taildragger. It's a personal preference as to whether you choose to do this or a regular 3 point landing. I'll use it if I have a faster approach speed for whatever reason or if I want better visibility over the nose to possibly avoid anything that may be on or could enter the runway.
I was watching it using my phone's small display and i was wandering: how this guy is able to fly P-51 in BoS? Is he some kind of sikret donator with extra early access to Battle of Bodenplatte or what? And why noone - exept me - noticed this Mustang. Than i opened the video on my PC...
Yeah it would be nice to already have Bodenplatte released wouldn't it? Their version of the Mustang will be on my channel one day! :-)
I look forward to it but it's the P47 that really has my eye...and naturally that 262
I only do nose landings, i land quite alright, then i panic and hack the brake key
Well that method is one of the fastest ways to stop! We've all done it in flight sims! :-D
I worked as a snowboard teacher, i guess breaking with your butt before you find out how to do a turn is the same thing ;)
But why would anyone do 2 point landings instead of 3 point landings? 3 points landing IMO are much easier and safer.
It's all down to personal preference in how you want to land. For example, some people like to use them if there are strong winds or if they want to maintain better visibility down the runway. It just gives you another option to use when landing depending on the situation.
Can the 2 wheel landing also make it easier to change your mind and get back in the air if you spot an enemy? I have gotten back to the field in the new BoS career mode to find out base under attack at least twice.
@@acdcdave1387 Definitely. Think of go-arounds like takeoffs with a really strong starting headwind; a 3-point landing essentially forces you into the first 100 or so km/h of takeoff, meaning you have to slam the throttle to counteract the drag of a high AoA; while a 2-pointer means you're just 20-ish km/h from lifting off again, at a basically neutral AoA. The downside, of course, is that 2-pointers take up a lot more runway space, but as long as you're not on a carrier you should be fine :P