SERAPH DELIVERY! New 8.2 Event Unboxing LEGENDARY Boxes War Robots WR
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- War Robots 8.2 Event Unboxing Video: SERAPH DELIVERY - New Legendary WR Boxes opened
Have you guys & gals been more or less lucky than me in the opening? I guess when it comes to the Seraph I was quite unlucky ;-)
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Have you guys & gals been more or less lucky than me in the opening? I guess when it comes to the Seraph I was quite unlucky ;-)
Although seraph is guaranteed,
Gold coin needs too much money than before.
We have to wait until 97% off sale to get..
Hello manni
I got pretty lucky on the first opening of the silver coin crate
I got a freedom skyros off the bat
what do you mean lucky?? until now I'm still confused, how to collect that many keys!?
I don’t like this new mechanich because the ftp players will have a hard time they probably won’t even get a rare chest
As someone that doesn’t buy anything in the game, this is a punch in the face for me knowing I won’t be able to get any of those new crates it really pisses me off that you have to purchase pretty much everything that is top tier in the game. They really couldn’t give us a few free boxes to get all the new weapons and modules. Pay To Win at its finest
I used to feel the same but you really need to understand that it’s the paying players that make it possible for all the thousands and thousands of players who are able to enjoy the game for free. Also I have found that usually in the following event most of the top tier things ( now ) can be won for free
No one will get a single rare chest without spending.
@@Helena-me6mp you can actually get 3 for free, 1 from ads, 1 from the operation, and 1 from leftover tokens at the end
It's been like this for a long time.... I'm 6 years in
as a p2w player, i see all of you f2p players complaining abt how ur never gna get something free, then i proceed to spent 100$ for 1 draw because pixonic loves scamming me, and gives me 500 skyros components 🤡🤡🤡XD p2w at its finest indeed
The drop rates are still the same, low chance to get the valuable prizes and it's really hard to get the coins because there are so expensive. the old system was better than this. the only good thing is that there are more full prizes than components
That's true
Just wait for another update it'll drop
I agree with u AD they made this system completely p2w.
Facts.
This systems is bad compared to the previous.
Waay to expensive.
Didn't imagine id be playing bingo to get the Seraph.
Agree AD
"a full pantagruel" since when the titan weapons have a component 🤣
Manni you must admit that this system isnt f2p friendly. We would love to use the new stuff which comes into the game but we cant because even if we spend 50$ or more in this event, we are still gonna get the pilot first, then the weapon and lastly the bot. The events are so rigged and the rewards are bad. It doesnt matter than you get a lot of stuff from the gold coins, we cant get those coins without paying or completing hard grinding missions. I wish they would simply give us at least 300 gold coins when the events start so we can open one but nah, let the spenders enjoy the new stuff and release it for free players when they will get nerfed
facts
But isn't the third create always p2w you can't get free coins, so if do spend money the third create is worth a try, if they give you full rewards unlike the previousone
Yeah this event is 41 days long thats and you only get 10 gold event coins per day thats only 401 in total wich is not even close to the 7k or if you want to open 2 and by the way you can only get the gold event coins by watching ads and thers only 10 per day. If they fix this to be 150 or 200 per opening and they give you 50 gold event coins per day in total that would be 2,050 wich is so much better then the system they mave right now and it would be more better for free to play players
I bought 3,000 gold coins and can’t even see them nor the bingo box??
@@MAMAvsGOD ???
I suspect the order of prizes for the legendary chest isn't a question of 'luck' at all. I'm guessing the order is *ALWAYS*: Jill Summers -> Decay -> Seraph
100% agree. I watched every single opening I can and every time it was : jill summers > decay > seraph.
Totally absurd
It's just because a legendary pilot is useless without the robot it's for that you get it first and most people want the Seraph so pix wants to make it expensive to get it. It's just dumb
It’s not I opened only one “calendar” thing and got one legendary chest and got seraph first try and I’m so excited because I wasn’t going to spend any more money on any more boxes but I got it and am so excited first legendary chest.
@@gmizlyth4207 I got the bot first
@@gregcorson9893 oh ok lmao. Then lucky you 🙃
For people with not many coins, these extra weapons are very nice for coins when sold, at most you need 3 of each weapon and the rest can be sold
There’s probably enough Ag for selling all those unwanted gold chest items to level a bot and weps to Mk3. 😮
And yes, the 99 chests to special prize is normal. I had one over 100 in the previous event.
This many boxes for a special is nonsense though.
i agree manni i am not a p2w player so i wish that number was lower to get the special prize
@@ManniGaming Agree 100% my friend. It’s insane!
Lord tested it and it gives you 600~800 M silver. It's enough for 2.6 robots mk3
What a mess for us regular grunt players. Previously I spent $7.99 and got 5 great prizes including 3 dazzlers. Now I am totally out of the running for such things. In a million years I would never have enough to do what Manny did in ten minutes.
14:10
Manni: Gets 2 limited weapons
Also manni: I dont know man all I see is components
he said a lot of components.
not everything being components
Bro u blind
@@CatShak Yeah I know but thats manni. Knowing him he probably didnt pay attention to the weapons.
But anyways Im not trying to spread hate. My comment was just a harmless joke.
@@saadlakho5888 What do you mean?
I haven’t had any luck in any openings, all the stuff I ever got I Built myself in the workshop over the course of months and I hate seeing ppl needing to pay to atleast open a few boxes, like Pixonic atleast give us 1 or 2 rows for f2p how are we supposed to have fun like this?
I am the same way!
Manni you don’t understand, these gold coins are REALLY hard to get. You would be lucky to get 300 coins in the event.
You are right
guys guys guys come on don’t be silly. you can get 1200 of them for the cheap cheap price of 139.99$ when they offer amazing discount. seems pretty easy to get to me.
@@kennyawho6444 are you joking?
@@kennyawho6444 cheap ?
@@WR_tsez myself
Hi Manni ❤ I got in my first spin Freedom Mace + 5000 components for Mace and got it because I had 5500 and I need another one and maybe remove Havoc from Ravana and maybe put Mace.
The 300 crates remind me of the lucky box openings in COD - 99.9% of the time, you get the best item last. I wonder how many crates we have had to open in the past to get new robots/weapons and if it's anywhere close to 7500-22500.
Me wondering why you need to wait 30 days to get a single 300 of the last coins or pay hundreds of dollars 🗿
You get 2 chests as a f2p player. The coins you have left over give you rewards at the end of the event because they cpunt as you opening it.
I remeber when the heimdall was mew I got it at the end of the event because I had 5 coins lol. Yes 5 coins gave me a whole titan.
@@thegrimreaper9552 i was talking about the seraph ones
If u wait for offers u can get like 2000 coins for 20/30 dollars
Don’t worry about opening 25, we barely will be open 1 of them
You get 2 chests as a f2p player. The coins you have left over give you rewards at the end of the event because they cpunt as you opening it.
I remeber when the heimdall was new I got it at the end of the event because I had 5 coins lol. Yes 5 coins gave me a whole titan.
When I first saw the new gold coin system, my first reaction was "ew, really pixonic?" this was most likely a cash grab attempt by pixonic. a greedy company is not great for a game and its community. a great example of this would be rockstar and GTA V online. I would rather wait and see if the gold coin system gets changed in the next update, and/or if seraph gets a crate change, like from gold to silver. even so, I'm way more interested in the new weapons than the new robot. I find it REALLY helpful that you do these videos Manni, it really helps me determine "Hmm so that cost this much, and this costs that much." just makes my life easier making sure that when I am paying for stuff, I know if its gunna be a good or bad choice. Keep up the good work!!
I just remembered that we don't get weapon components because all of these are weapons for titans :)
I love unboxing videos they help me a lot to understand the drop rates, thanks Manni!
I’m mostly f2p so the bingo box thing isn’t going to be a big problem
I don't think so 🙄
@@WR_tsez what?
Same, probably never going to open one...
@@wrzdestroyer3739 actually only one if u watch the ad
@@OldAccount1621 l mean it's very hard to gather some gold coins. You will able to open only 1-2 times from the ads, D operation and If you lucky from the bronze and silver boxes
the only thing i have wrong with this event is the coins are way to expensive, like just to open one gold one and one silver one its like 25$ that’s ridiculous, i hope they have the deals they did last event because i really want those new weapons
Don't rush! The end of the month the prices will reduce to buy these boxes. The prices will go down and they will even bundle them together at reduce price.💯
just dont buy them?
@@Helena-me6mp obviously im not lol, im just saying theyre way to expensive right now so players who dont spend their whole paycheck on this game wont be able to get any of the new stuff
The prices for these coins get so low near the end of the event you could say they are free lol.
Also even opening one is enough. If I open only on ethis whole event and get a onslaught reactor I wont complain lol.
@@shiyaazht maybe dont spend your whole paycheck and play the game do get stuff like everyone else
What's surprising to me is the new, weps, and Seraph, aren't anywhere near as OP as ALL the new stuff has been for so long.
Not sure its a bug in the # of Chests, as zi have seen needing over 100.
I personally think I won’t be getting a even a chance at Seraph which is what I was most excited for,though I think I’ll have been pretty lucky in the bronze and silver token crates by the time this event is over,and I wish you all the best of luck
So far, I have won a Freedom Skyros on my first opening, but pverall the event seems worse than last event
Yes l agree
I got a freedom hammer first try, u so lucky, but I have 8k skyrocketed components so I think I’m gonna get him this season
Nobody notice price of gold chests went up by 50%??? 😕
which gold chest?
Wait till end of season.. all will be at heavy discounts but still expensive ..
@@GuruWR he meant its 300 coins instead of 200 to open a box
My friend spent 1300€ to win 1 seraph, that's crazy, no more parts for a bot. If you want to have 2 seraph, you definitely have to open 42k keys, that's not ok. It was already hard to win something good before but now you have to open 21k keys so spent a lot of money.
When you hand selected silver crate you get better rewards than letting it randomly choose
Thank you so much I've been waiting for this opening
Manni, the gold chests are only essentially acquired by P2W players, not much better if you ask me
So in theory it's impossible for F2W players to get Seraph, and it's pilot.
@@17771Defenestration FAIR
@@17771Defenestration free 2 win?
Pixonic is innovative on making new interesting way to make player gamble, but terrible at making the game better in quality of life🤦
True. Why don't they add new maps every update??? Aren't the players sick of playing the current ones?
@@Twisted_Hades couldn't agree more. Why such thing that makes player enjoy, pixonic doesn't really care. They want us to suffer with their crappy UI and boring repetitive game🤷
@@Twisted_Hades im a paying player, but as i got higher in league, i got to the point where i got bored knowing that i have to fight for the same resources, but with stronger opponents
Oh, yes that going to be a Bypass energy shield pilot of course or Able to shoot stealth pilot or maybe Bypass resistance pilot for sure. That's how Pixonic will ruin the game like ruining the role of the bots like Erebus relying on its strong Aegis shield, the Fenrir relying on its Resistance, and the Murometz relying on its Stealth not going to be in meta anymore in a sudden once those pilots released.
yea right. cuz why would pixonic ever create stealth or resistance in the game if their OWN new robot will bypass it afterall like wow
99 USD=1200 gold coins
you open 7500, cost you about 600USD, if you are not lucky, Seraph is the last one you get, it takes you 1800 USD to get one.
Besides you can get the Decay in Silver, and this legendary pilot is extremly useless. Very well done pixonic, you won't even put particles of new robot in the rare box. LMAO
Besides there have never been something like "Titan weapon components" so don‘t be surprised by getting a full dazzler or something, on the last unboxing you can get like 10 lanterns by 10 USD.
I really love your videos and they really help me out in which hangers I should use for battles and keep up the good work😃😃
But whats very nice to notice, they give away the lantern and dazzlers like crazy what was at least in the past ever a good sign that the item will get a nerf shortly after actions like this...
Luckily my none blendy Minos build will still works great after they nerfed this weapon to unuselesness...😅
I can confirm that the chances at the legendary chest are not random AT ALL! Although it's made to look random, trust me, You'll only get the Seraph at the 3rd attempt. Always! It's made like this so you can spend as much as possible on those coins. Don't get fooled. If you wanna go for it, make sure you have enough pocket for 75 boxes, otherwise don't bother. Everyone is "unlucky", no exception.
This new system seems really awesome, but ofcourse there is a huge problem. If you have the money, you will have such an easy time getting good items, and you are guaranteed to get whatever you want. On the other hand, i you are free to play then you will only be able to open 1 square over the course of the WHOLE event, AND EVEN THAT REQUIRES YOU TO WATCH 4 ADS EVERY DAY FOR 30 DAYS! Now, here comes the worst part! In those squares are some really good prizes but there are also components for 1000 northligt, 2500 northligt and 5000 northligt. All of those prizes are pretty much worthless as it is going to take us 2 whole events of watching ads to get a single northligt and even that requires you to get crazy lucky and get to 5000 components twice. My point is that for watching a total of 120 ads to get a single sqaure and it ending up being 1000 components for northligt is going to CRUSH people who have been working hard to even get a chance to open the box..
Nah lol. You get 2 chests as a f2p player. The coins you have left over give you rewards at the end of the event because they cpunt as you opening it.
I remeber when the heimdall was new I got it at the end of the event because I had 5 coins lol. Yes 5 coins gave me a whole titan.
@@thegrimreaper9552 do u think that’s enough for the new items?
@@saadlakho5888 No and im gonna be honest I dont care. You dont need the new stuff when its added. You can do prefectly fine with what you have been using so far.
I never got something new as soon as it came out and I havent had any problems with playing the game.
I think this tells me that im going to have to wait for the Seraphs to be silver instead of gold…. Also old content and this update was rather not so aggressive with new titans, weapons and or robots…. Hmm gets me thinking Pix may be running out of ideas lol
not all of us will get the legendary chest, as the only ways to get the bongo tokens are to pay money, or spend other tokens which take forever to grind. This event is pretty p2w in my opinion
The big chest looks good! But anyone who can afford to get those guaranteed weapons doesn’t need them. It’s just a fancy way of giving them silver. It’s the same system we know and hate that dishes out filler
I've been a fan for 5 years now I forget about this channel I'm visiting
seraph was a pretty good robot i used it in test server
I've opened 1 silver and bronze crate. I was scammed. The drop rate of anything good is like 1%. I did just win a gravity amplifier and heimdall titan. That was from the old event tho.
Please manni, you have to do a video on the skyros vs fafnir blast charge skirmish! It is super fun and chaotic.
Manni it’s funny cuz before u got the 99 openings I was like imagine manni getting 100 opening to get a special prize next thing u know u do get it 😂🤦
i might wait until last week for the 98percent off of the coins to buy
The second legendary pilot of the seraph will somethink like the fafnir because the legend pilot has the same thing as that one
Manni, I know that the prices are actually really good and not a scam (only Northlight components are the worst ones), but F2P players, myself included, will have a very, VERY hard time getting those gold tokens (or even impossible). Why? Because you rarely get the gold tokens on both the Bronze and Silver Event chests, you don't get gold tokens from the free Event Operation, even if you buy the operation, you only get 300 gold tokens. And of course, P2W players will be having the time of their life since they're spending real money for games like War Robots. And P2W players will ultimately fall because all items they buy will get nerfed by F2P players' opinion.
So now it cost me anywhere from $1500 and $2250 for a new meta bot right now. Wtf
Regardless of someones financial position this doesn’t represent “value” for money at all. Pixonic have lost perspective
wouldn't be surprised if they increased the chances to get rare drops for Manni, and other youtubers.
this opening wasn’t lucky tho. he barely got any northlight which is the lucky prize. and he got the seraph last. same thing for the silver chest he wasn’t very lucky.
You've not been looking recently Manni, the "Prize in _ _ " has been very large throughout the last season too. I think "..in 99" was also used.
hey manni i want to tell u that ieven if u open 25 crates on the last crate ur coins will not be wasted instead it will open that one chest and open 24 crates from the next section
The 99 openings before a special prize isnt a bug, last event i actually had to open 110 before i got a special prize
Love your videos i am watching you from 4 years . You are keep amazing 👍. So hard to get those coins.
It's tricked out, the same thing always comes out, The Seraph is when you open the special chest for the third time.
Personally, I am still fond of the 1 coin system with different prices on each crate, but Ol Pix needs their $$, so they cant compromise to decrease their insane profits.
I got to say I'm really happy that I didn't spend any money on tokens this season cuz I would have been very mad this isn't even right they should at least not give you multiples of the same thing over and over...
I won a Scavenger Hiemdall by just saving up 30 coins of the third chest and just waited out the event and I got a Scavenger Hiemdall
You get the Blue chest once you open a horizontal Line of chests
Wow, thanks for the vid manni!
manni you are one of the nicest youtubers and you were always honest with the players.
I'm iceman/ ironstars, can you please bring something to someone from pixonic among us android players??
I can't really reach anyone, that's why I'm asking you.)))
Please brotger tell pixonic that we haven't formed eu powersquads since the last update because we have laggs and buggs,
example:::: if we take new bot on a beacon, we drop 3 seconds too late, so we lose the beacon.
example nr2::: when 5, 6 bots fight, then there are so many slow motions, laggs that we don't even see if we hit someone or not. I can't play beacon rush like that, can my friend??😔😔😔😥
I am so unlucky I don’t even have coins of this bingo box
Once again i wont have the chance to open those legendary boxes due to my lack of levels
what I think is unfair is that the free to play will have the seraph when it is more accessible in one or two seasons😢
And immediately upon f2p obtaining it it will receive some sort of nerf
@@_s-p-e-c-t-r-a_music_ what do you mean
Some sort of nerf
It will literally almost get nerfed to unexistence
@@SmthBoutSticks I didn't say it won't get nerfed; I said "some sort of nerf" because we don't yet know what they will do to inevitably take from the robot to render it obsolete
New robot idea
Hello pilots today I will combined 2robots together the Raijin and the Weyland
Name: unknown
Ability: healing Fortress
Info: the robot lifts his 4legs and rise up! Then the robot cannot move but activates a built in healing Generator in the robot that will open and heal all players in the area the robot will also gain a built in 2 physical shields that combined into 1powerful shield!
Shield health: 500k!
At max mk3: 1million
Origin: A unknown op spider robot tht can hold 2 heavy weapons with a insane built in ability this robot can turn the tables of a battle while also healing the teammates
The pilot gives the robot increase defense points and healing capacity when ability I activated
The cd: 5sec when you deactivate the ability
Also love the video manni!
I am suprised that you are suprised that TITAN WEAPONRY does not come in parts. It was always a whole prize
2000 usd to buy 22500 coins to open all the boxes to fill 3 rare Crete, and you are asking how lucky we are 😆 🤣
Bruh the crazy thing is I got freedom skyros on the free spin that they give you
Drop rates are so bad. It’s hard to get the valuable prizes, impossible to get the gold tokens. (Even the offer are like 15$ for 600 tokens 💀)
The old system of chest was better. Pixonic is litteraly becoming a casino except even kids are able to participate. (If you are an adult keep your kids away from the game)
I hate the fact that you can spent money to get something that is not guaranteed.
I only got to open 3 crates this season so far
the giveaway prize hasn't arrived yet idk why it's been 2 weeks
should i wait more
I got it finally thanks manni
Most of the players can't afford to get coins for the 3th box. It's almost impossible
Money grab
Do you need to be level 30 for the 3rd chest? Cuz I don’t have it since I just installed agin cuz I got mad that I lost my account 2 years ago
@@cipri123wr 100%
@@byronbsisback1594 you have to be lvl 30
@@Twisted_Hades ok thanks, Imonly 29
Bronze looks so much like the gold on my screen. People might accidentally buy bronze instead of gold. They could have use other color.
The Bronze box is a joke, the only components I won were Cudgel components.
you used to be able to get gold token from the daily task. no reason to go through that any more unless you buy the operation and there still not many gold tokens in the E operation. f2p can not compete without that new mother ship. charges too fast with too much shielding
Prizes that need a loan from the bank and family problems
Thanks manni after this video I will never try to open this box
Thank you for reading g my comment and making this video!!!
Yeaa i give up when they change the token for different chest opening...back than i can choose which chest to open now you'll be dreaming to open those top chest..can't even reach that special chest anymore...
Bro today I got a freedom cudgel and a normal cudgel and put them on my khepri I’m going for a cudgel khepri
Mani is covered in scavenger hemadial and I can't even get one
These crate's had me confused, Thanks for the explanation Manni
Getting to be a very expensive game to play!
Well its trixi. She decrease time of repair module. For seraph i will choose jill as non paid player cos module cost energy cell 😅
Thanks alot manni.. was wondering how this worked..
Mmmmmmmmmm a 3 year old
I got lucky and got a freedom skyros first try!
If I won the new bot, I just might cry of happiness 😂
Manni the first row were all titan equipment and there are no components for titan equipment
I got Freedom Mace on my first ever silver crate
Hey Manni, I thought I did see you receive a few (3-4) full weapons in your silver chests openings?
Yall remember when Tran,orkan, and magun were cool
It’s so hard to get the cels! I can’t spend money. I’ll never open one!
But we SHOULD get these golden tokens for free because we wont be able to open these things without spending money and the prices are like always (TOO expiensive) so please tell pixonic to make it possible to get these coins like the silver and the bronze tokens
Awesome Manni
I got a freedom slurps In the free chest I couldn’t believe it
Dude since the robot came out its just amazing
Can I get a heindmeil
Not seeing this on PC version right now. I confirmed I have 8.2 from steam but I don't see the secret gold "go to" box or the calendar. Please tell me how we can get this or if I'm just missing it or how to open it.
They need to reduce the needed amount from 300 to like 100 or 150, thats just ridiculous now no f2p players will be able to open them unless they get SUPER lucky and win some from the other chests
Yeah right.
You want to get a whole titan weapon or module just for 100 coins. Sorry but that will never happen lol.
The game wont give you everything for free. You have to actually✨try✨ to earn those rewards. Yes I know its hard to not be lazy but you have to.
@@thegrimreaper9552 I don't want to not have to do anything but I dont want to have to pay real money either. And at the time of the first comment I didn't know that it wasn't mostly components.
But if its 300 coins to open one, they need to make a way to get them besides paying. Have challenges or something
And I'm not lazy, you don't need to say that, you don't know me
@@victorkutz9201 Alright then
5:21 That sounds like a scam waiting to happen. Someone is definitely going to press it.
i have subbed and liked the vid and turned on notification
The new gold crate is terrible, having to spend 7500 coins (which are so expensive) just to get a 1/3 chance of actually getting seraph
manni im pretty sure titan weapons dont have components haha
I don’t even see option to get Seraph and I’m Level 25. When I click my boxes it only shows Two options not three like on his screen. Any clues??