Major pain delay in been ran over it took 500 xannax in a month to release the pain from my spine that twisted? I didn't even feel getting ran over my body makes no sense - 4 months to feel the intense brain damage from the concrete... all i did was leave that cmh on and lay in bed went away literal felt like dying
Transcript - For easy reading! Hello. In this video, we're going to talk about pain. We're going to focus on the ascending pathway of pain, and we're also going to talk about the descending pathway. As well we're going to focus on an area called the substantia gelatinosa. Imagine you had a right-hand injury. What happens and how do we feel pain. The pain signal coming from the site of injury will travel up to the brain, and this is where the perception of pain essentially is felt. The signal going up to the brain is referred to as the ascending pathway. Injuries to our body is felt in certain areas of our brain called the somatosensory cortex. Let's recap the brain briefly. Here's the cerebrum, brain stem, and cerebellum. The somatosensory cortex sits posterior to the central sulcus. Let's cut a cross-section of the brain like so and zoom into the somatosensory cortex. The somatosensory cortex is an area where sensations perceived, this include pain. The somatosensory cortex has areas which correlate to different parts of our body. So for example, let's look at the left side of the somatosensory cortex. The outer region here represents the leg, hand, and face. Again, this is your right side and this is your left side of the brain. The brain continues on and joins with the brainstem, which is made up of three main components, the midbrain, pons, and medulla. These are cross-sections of the brain stem. The brain stem then continues on and becomes the spinal cord. Here we are only looking at one section of the spinal cord. Let us say this section of the spinal cord is a cervical spine area. Spinal cord has nerves coming out from the anterior root and nerves coming in from the posterior root of the spinal cord. Here I am only drawing the nerves on the right side of the spinal cord. Different tracts exists within the spinal cord. One tract important in the pain pathway or the ascending pathway is the spinothalamic tract, made up of the lateral and anterior spinothalamic tracts. Let's go back to the right-hand injury now. The right hand has an obvious injury on its palm. Within the area, there are immune cells residing. When these immune cells are damaged or should I say when any cells are damaged, including our skin cells, they start releasing cytokines - chemicals. An important one in the ascending pathway are prostaglandins represented here as PG. Prostaglandins are produced by nearly all cells, typically as a response to inflammation. Sensory nerve fibers exist all over our body. These sensory nerve fibers will respond to prostaglandins and will carry the signal or impulse to the back of the spinal cord or the Dorsal Horn of the spinal cord. This neuron is a first order neuron. Within the Dorsal Horn of the spinal cord the first order neuron will synapse and relay this signal, this impulse, to the second neuron. This second neuron, called the second order neuron will cross over to the opposite side and will enter the spinothalamic tract. From here the second order neuron will continue up, ascending through the remaining spinal cord, through the brain stem and terminate in the thalamus of the brain. The thalamus is the relay station. In the thalamus, the second order neuron will synapse with the third order neuron. The third order neuron will carry this impulse and relay it to the region of the brain which correlates with the injured right hand. Thus the third order neuron helps discern the area of injury and also the cortex here is where the perception of the pain is perceived. Important to remember that this is the left side of the brain, whereas the stimuli, the signal, the initial signal was on the right hand. Thus sensation always is on the opposite side of the brain to where the stimuli or stimulus occurred. Another important thing to remember is a chemical released by the first order neuron to transmit or relay the signal impulse to the second order neuron. This chemical is substance P. Thus substance P and this whole area at the Dorsal Horn of the spinal cord is an important area for the ascending pathway. Now, whenever there is an ascending pathway, there is a descending pathway. While the ascending pathway is responsible for transmitting the pain signal up to the brain, the descending pathway is responsible for controlling and inhibiting the ascending pathway essentially. Important areas of the descending pathway include the periaqueductal gray matter of the midbrain and the nucleus raphe magnus of the medulla. When not inhibited the neurons are rising from the periaqueductal gray matter, will go down to the nucleus raphe magnus and synapse with the second neuron. This second neuron here is a serotonergic/noradrenergic neuron And this serotonergic/noradrenergic neuron will travel down towards the Dorsal Horn of the spinal cord as well. The serotonergic/noradrenergic neuron's role in some is to inhibit or control the communication between the first order neuron and the second order neuron of the ascending pathway and thus help control pain signals going up. There is another neuron here, I'm drawing in blue, which also plays an important role in this area and we will talk about it later. So this Dorsal Horn of the spinal cord is a pretty important area. We can call it like a gate. So gate control of pain. If we zoom into this area of the Dorsal Horn of the spinal cord, it can actually be referred to as the substantia gelatinosa. So let's just recap this whole area. Here we have the first order neuron coming in and synapsing with the second order neuron here. The first order neuron will bring in an action potential which will eventually stimulate vesicles to release its content into the synaptic cleft. The content here, in this case, is substance P. Substance P will stimulate the second order neuron. The second order neuron is stimulated and will propagate an impulse up to the thalamus via the spinothalamic tract. Coming down from the medulla, here in red, is a neuron from the descending pathway, the serotonin/noradrenaline neuron which will release its content, serotonin, and noradrenaline. These chemicals or this neuron will do two things. Firstly, it will bind on to receptors, the presynaptic neuron and inhibit the release of substance P. Second, it will stimulate a small neuron in an area called an interneuron. This interneuron in the substantia gelatinosa is actually an opioid neuron, which when stimulated will release an endogenous opioid called enkephalin. Enkephalin, like all opioids, will do two things in the substantia gelatinosa. One - it will inhibit the presynaptic neuron from releasing substance P, and two - it will inhibit the post synaptic neuron from depolarizing and thus stop the continuation of the impulse up to the thalamus. All in all, opioids such as enkephalins will inhibit the ascending pathway of pain. So that was an overview of the ascending pathway and the descending pathway of pain. NAssink Transcriptions nassink.transcribe@gmail.com
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I mean...how intelligent and talented can one individual be? You're amazing Armando. I enjoy your videos and learn more form you than I did in school. Thank you.
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Opioids like oxycodone and hydrocodone also work in another way too. 1) They inhibit signals in the ascending pathway as you mentioned. And 2) They decrease GABAergic tonic firing on the descending neuron (via Mu receptor agonism) in the periacqueductal grey which will increase neuronal firing of the descending tract.
Finally!! After watching 50 medical videos.. Your the first correct logical comment that's a real answer!!!! Thank you!! Most see just stupid doctors saying ya.... Nerves cause pain.... Now my fellow scientist.. What do you know about the pH+ values of the protein neuro transmitters?
Your explanation like that I am having I can't think my studies without you and my exams without your note and without your exam notes and my result without your knowledge thank you so much so much so so so so much may god bless you❤
Lovely! I'm a doctor already, but I'm studying now medicine in english and it's like going all over again from the begining, I mean with the words , because I didn't know how they were written or pronounced. Thank you!
drawing is always the best way to understand things, and yours are just awesome. You also synthesise this complex phenomenon in a very clear and simple way. to understand complex, we need to master the simple first. thank you.
Buddy, a person that knows so much about the specific topic tend to have a difficult time explaining it, because they didn't want it to be a false information for others.
Great video! I’m self studying the basics of pain in the nervous system because I have Fibromyalgia and I want to understand better how is it possible to feel such pain and how my medicines help me alleviate my symptoms. Thanks!
Omg Eddie me too!!! I've had Fibromyalgia for 22 years now. I've taken EVERY medicine available and the only thing that helps (doesn't take it away) is Opioids!!! I keep asking Dr's to check my Endogenous Opioids to see if I even have any. I don't get high or that Euphoria feeling...it just helps put my pain to the back of my brain vs ALWAYS in my face and that's ALL I can think about. They say it's not progressive but they are WRONG!!! Sure wish Dr's would listen to us!!
Depression decrease 5-HT levels in CNS. That's y increased sensitivity to pain in the depressed individuals. Bcz serotenergic and nor adrenergic neurons that is the descending pathway for pain perception control is lacking in neuro transmitters
Thank you so much. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and your drawing talent is amazing. Helps me to remember everything so easily...you make science easy.
Thankyou so much for your immense support,i do highly appreciate . One thing I always wanted to say,Please let us to capture the whole board (figure) in a single picture so that we can take a comple screenshot. Please do us this favour,Thankyou.
By the way, drawing is not only a convenient format for popularizing scientific knowledge. But even if someone simply draws without video recording, this is also one of the very good ways of understanding the work of the nervous system and memorizing all the neuroanatomical details.
I use your videos to study and they are always 100% concise and superb. Thanks a lot. My humble request is for you to make more Optometry/Ophthalmology videos (Ocular Anatomy and Physiology) Thanks in advance
Dude! Your videos are awesome! Thank you soo much for making learning pain phsyiology easy for a visual learner like me. I keep finding myself looking for your videos when studying various topics.
That video was incredible.. I just wish you continued zooming out at the end so I could screenshot the entire picture and add it to my notes in notability.. rather than having to do it in chunks :P
This was an excellent video. I've been struggling to figure out how to explain this concept to my A&P students. Thanks so much- I will credit you and I subscribed to your channel, a first for me. Many thanks.
This explanation helped me understand my lectures at university :) thank you so much for explaining everything so smoothly, wish u keep on doing such videos!
Great video..little correction from my side....In the Ascending pathway illustrated here terminating at the sensory cortex, neurotransmitter is Glutamate and not substance P..... Substance P is the NT of C fibres that terminate at the Thalamus...Raphe Magnus nucleus is located primarily at pons
As an anesthesiologist Trainee, I've seen a lot of pain pathway explanations, but this one is by far the simplest and best
Same
True dat, helped me a lot while studying for the pain part of my anaesthesiology training!
Major pain delay in been ran over it took 500 xannax in a month to release the pain from my spine that twisted? I didn't even feel getting ran over my body makes no sense - 4 months to feel the intense brain damage from the concrete... all i did was leave that cmh on and lay in bed went away literal felt like dying
Transcript - For easy reading!
Hello. In this video, we're going to talk about pain. We're going to focus on the ascending pathway of pain, and we're also going to talk about the descending pathway. As well we're going to focus on an area called the substantia gelatinosa. Imagine you had a right-hand injury. What happens and how do we feel pain. The pain signal coming from the site of injury will travel up to the brain, and this is where the perception of pain essentially is felt. The signal going up to the brain is referred to as the ascending pathway. Injuries to our body is felt in certain areas of our brain called the somatosensory cortex. Let's recap the brain briefly. Here's the cerebrum, brain stem, and cerebellum. The somatosensory cortex sits posterior to the central sulcus. Let's cut a cross-section of the brain like so and zoom into the somatosensory cortex. The somatosensory cortex is an area where sensations perceived, this include pain. The somatosensory cortex has areas which correlate to different parts of our body. So for example, let's look at the left side of the somatosensory cortex. The outer region here represents the leg, hand, and face. Again, this is your right side and this is your left side of the brain.
The brain continues on and joins with the brainstem, which is made up of three main components, the midbrain, pons, and medulla. These are cross-sections of the brain stem. The brain stem then continues on and becomes the spinal cord. Here we are only looking at one section of the spinal cord. Let us say this section of the spinal cord is a cervical spine area. Spinal cord has nerves coming out from the anterior root and nerves coming in from the posterior root of the spinal cord. Here I am only drawing the nerves on the right side of the spinal cord. Different tracts exists within the spinal cord. One tract important in the pain pathway or the ascending pathway is the spinothalamic tract, made up of the lateral and anterior spinothalamic tracts. Let's go back to the right-hand injury now. The right hand has an obvious injury on its palm. Within the area, there are immune cells residing. When these immune cells are damaged or should I say when any cells are damaged, including our skin cells, they start releasing cytokines - chemicals. An important one in the ascending pathway are prostaglandins represented here as PG. Prostaglandins are produced by nearly all cells, typically as a response to inflammation. Sensory nerve fibers exist all over our body. These sensory nerve fibers will respond to prostaglandins and will carry the signal or impulse to the back of the spinal cord or the Dorsal Horn of the spinal cord.
This neuron is a first order neuron. Within the Dorsal Horn of the spinal cord the first order neuron will synapse and relay this signal, this impulse, to the second neuron. This second neuron, called the second order neuron will cross over to the opposite side and will enter the spinothalamic tract. From here the second order neuron will continue up, ascending through the remaining spinal cord, through the brain stem and terminate in the thalamus of the brain. The thalamus is the relay station.
In the thalamus, the second order neuron will synapse with the third order neuron. The third order neuron will carry this impulse and relay it to the region of the brain which correlates with the injured right hand. Thus the third order neuron helps discern the area of injury and also the cortex here is where the perception of the pain is perceived. Important to remember that this is the left side of the brain, whereas the stimuli, the signal, the initial signal was on the right hand. Thus sensation always is on the opposite side of the brain to where the stimuli or stimulus occurred. Another important thing to remember is a chemical released by the first order neuron to transmit or relay the signal impulse to the second order neuron. This chemical is substance P. Thus substance P and this whole area at the Dorsal Horn of the spinal cord is an important area for the ascending pathway.
Now, whenever there is an ascending pathway, there is a descending pathway. While the ascending pathway is responsible for transmitting the pain signal up to the brain, the descending pathway is responsible for controlling and inhibiting the ascending pathway essentially. Important areas of the descending pathway include the periaqueductal gray matter of the midbrain and the nucleus raphe magnus of the medulla. When not inhibited the neurons are rising from the periaqueductal gray matter, will go down to the nucleus raphe magnus and synapse with the second neuron. This second neuron here is a serotonergic/noradrenergic neuron
And this serotonergic/noradrenergic neuron will travel down towards the Dorsal Horn of the spinal cord as well. The serotonergic/noradrenergic neuron's role in some is to inhibit or control the communication between the first order neuron and the second order neuron of the ascending pathway and thus help control pain signals going up. There is another neuron here, I'm drawing in blue, which also plays an important role in this area and we will talk about it later. So this Dorsal Horn of the spinal cord is a pretty important area. We can call it like a gate. So gate control of pain. If we zoom into this area of the Dorsal Horn of the spinal cord, it can actually be referred to as the substantia gelatinosa. So let's just recap this whole area. Here we have the first order neuron coming in and synapsing with the second order neuron here.
The first order neuron will bring in an action potential which will eventually stimulate vesicles to release its content into the synaptic cleft. The content here, in this case, is substance P. Substance P will stimulate the second order neuron. The second order neuron is stimulated and will propagate an impulse up to the thalamus via the spinothalamic tract. Coming down from the medulla, here in red, is a neuron from the descending pathway, the serotonin/noradrenaline neuron which will release its content, serotonin, and noradrenaline. These chemicals or this neuron will do two things. Firstly, it will bind on to receptors, the presynaptic neuron and inhibit the release of substance P. Second, it will stimulate a small neuron in an area called an interneuron. This interneuron in the substantia gelatinosa is actually an opioid neuron, which when stimulated will release an endogenous opioid called enkephalin. Enkephalin, like all opioids, will do two things in the substantia gelatinosa. One - it will inhibit the presynaptic neuron from releasing substance P, and two - it will inhibit the post synaptic neuron from depolarizing and thus stop the continuation of the impulse up to the thalamus. All in all, opioids such as enkephalins will inhibit the ascending pathway of pain.
So that was an overview of the ascending pathway and the descending pathway of pain.
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Opioids like oxycodone and hydrocodone also work in another way too. 1) They inhibit signals in the ascending pathway as you mentioned. And 2) They decrease GABAergic tonic firing on the descending neuron (via Mu receptor agonism) in the periacqueductal grey which will increase neuronal firing of the descending tract.
Finally!! After watching 50 medical videos.. Your the first correct logical comment that's a real answer!!!! Thank you!! Most see just stupid doctors saying ya.... Nerves cause pain.... Now my fellow scientist.. What do you know about the pH+ values of the protein neuro transmitters?
Your explanation like that I am having I can't think my studies without you and my exams without your note and without your exam notes and my result without your knowledge thank you so much so much so so so so much may god bless you❤
I've been trying to memorize the pain pathway for hours. Should've just watched this in the first place. Thank you!
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Lovely! I'm a doctor already, but I'm studying now medicine in english and it's like going all over again from the begining, I mean with the words , because I didn't know how they were written or pronounced. Thank you!
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drawing is always the best way to understand things, and yours are just awesome. You also synthesise this complex phenomenon in a very clear and simple way. to understand complex, we need to master the simple first. thank you.
I was too tired to review last night and i have a quiz this morning.
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My prof couldn't explain this in 1.5 hour. He deserves to go to jail for getting paid to do absolutely nothing.
Plzz respect your teachers
I appreciate that a lot of objectively excellent doctors make poor lecturers.
However, this comment is infantile.
That’s disrespectful
Respect your teachers
Buddy, a person that knows so much about the specific topic tend to have a difficult time explaining it, because they didn't want it to be a false information for others.
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Great and simple explanation of ascending and descendign pathways!!!
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Great video! I’m self studying the basics of pain in the nervous system because I have Fibromyalgia and I want to understand better how is it possible to feel such pain and how my medicines help me alleviate my symptoms. Thanks!
Omg Eddie me too!!! I've had Fibromyalgia for 22 years now. I've taken EVERY medicine available and the only thing that helps (doesn't take it away) is Opioids!!! I keep asking Dr's to check my Endogenous Opioids to see if I even have any. I don't get high or that Euphoria feeling...it just helps put my pain to the back of my brain vs ALWAYS in my face and that's ALL I can think about. They say it's not progressive but they are WRONG!!! Sure wish Dr's would listen to us!!
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Depression decrease 5-HT levels in CNS. That's y increased sensitivity to pain in the depressed individuals. Bcz serotenergic and nor adrenergic neurons that is the descending pathway for pain perception control is lacking in neuro transmitters
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Thank you so much. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and your drawing talent is amazing. Helps me to remember everything so easily...you make science easy.
Thankyou so much for your immense support,i do highly appreciate .
One thing I always wanted to say,Please let us to capture the whole board (figure) in a single picture so that we can take a comple screenshot.
Please do us this favour,Thankyou.
Your explanation is perfect 10/10, thank you !
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By the way, drawing is not only a convenient format for popularizing scientific knowledge. But even if someone simply draws without video recording, this is also one of the very good ways of understanding the work of the nervous system and memorizing all the neuroanatomical details.
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Dude! Your videos are awesome! Thank you soo much for making learning pain phsyiology easy for a visual learner like me. I keep finding myself looking for your videos when studying various topics.
now i know thank u will be of great help to me to help re map the pain i have
That video was incredible.. I just wish you continued zooming out at the end so I could screenshot the entire picture and add it to my notes in notability.. rather than having to do it in chunks :P
you explain well and your videos are an art
This was an excellent video. I've been struggling to figure out how to explain this concept to my A&P students. Thanks so much- I will credit you and I subscribed to your channel, a first for me. Many thanks.
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Great video..little correction from my side....In the Ascending pathway illustrated here terminating at the sensory cortex, neurotransmitter is Glutamate and not substance P..... Substance P is the NT of C fibres that terminate at the Thalamus...Raphe Magnus nucleus is located primarily at pons
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