The Fat Guys' Guide to Getting In (and Out) of a Lotus Elise (10K Subscriber Special)

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  • @wrth
    @wrth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    "pretend you are the last bit of toothpaste in the tube"
    You can tell this man aced his English a levels

  • @stianaksaas
    @stianaksaas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ahh. Listen to that door sound. Like throwing a empty can of sardines in a bigger empty can of sardines

  • @LotoroE
    @LotoroE 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Getting in and out of mine usually involves a lot of swearing. Generally tend leave dignity and grace at home for the day!

    • @marshallsonmotorsltd2101
      @marshallsonmotorsltd2101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂

    • @watchman1872
      @watchman1872 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dignity is overrated, especially in the context of something as fun as driving a Lotus.

  • @watchman1872
    @watchman1872 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jay makes it look far, far easier than it is. Frankly, I'm shocked how fluidly he pours into his Elise.
    When I got my Exige 6 years ago, I was 56, and even though I'm thin and pretty limber, it was beyond awkward. Mine is worse, as it has a roll cage, which restricts the height of the door opening a bit. But worse, the roll cage tube running down to the door sill in front of the instrument panel narrows the width of the door opening by about 4", (100mm).
    For the first 6 months I had it, I crawled out of it, face first, onto the pavement. It looked like the car was puking me out onto the pavement. But now, it's pretty easy, as I've apparently become more limber.
    On the upside, between the gymnastic egress, the manual tranny, the abrupt on-off clutch engagement, the immobilizer, and the fact that the start button is obscured by the roll cage, the whole car is an essentially anti-theft device.

    • @anonymity6504
      @anonymity6504 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your "the whole car is an essentially anti-theft device" made me giggle! Decades ago I once had a car so bad that, when I came out of my house in the morning to find it stolen, I just shrugged my shoulders and walked to the bottom of the hill. Sure enough, there it was. They'd obviously tried to bump start it down the hill and then given up. I couldn't get it going and I had the key! 😄

    • @watchman1872
      @watchman1872 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anonymity6504 I've had some crappy cars as well, but fortunately not that bad. But my brother did in high school. An MG Midget with no reverse, and brakes only on the left front wheel. And the battery was non-functional.(He was going to "fix it up").
      He was soon disabused of that idea.
      Since it barely ran, one day we decided to start it by rolling it down our steep street and dumping the clutch, so I took my car to the cul-de-sac at the bottom of the hill in case we had to jump it off. I heard him coming down the hill with the engine loudly popping and farting, (much of the exhaust was rusted away). He was coming in way too fast, and above the roar of the engine, and the skidding left front wheel, I could hear him screaming MOVE, MOVE MOTHER*****R!! right before he slammed into the back of my car. Too late.
      Being a Plymouth Fury, and built like a tank, the Midget lost, pretty badly. He got an accordioned fender, and I got a small scratch on the aluminum tail light bezel. I really shouldn't have laughed the way I did, and felt pretty bad about it afterward.
      The Midget went away shortly after that.

  • @davidcooper5442
    @davidcooper5442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3 years ago i nearly bought an Elise SC 220. I loved it when i looked at it at the Dealer. I even asked the 20 something Sales man to show me how to get into and out of the car with the hardtop on . He duly showed how to do this. I followed his advice and got in without too much pain or loss of dignity. HOWEVER it took 10 minutes for me to drag my sorry 60 year old carcass from the confines of the car. I told the Salesman that i could not buy the car much as i loved that car. A couple of weeks ago i revisited the same dealer to look at an EVORA. Now i opened the door and sat in the car . I then was able to get out of the car without incurring a Spinal Injury and or Hip Dis Articulation. I liked the car a lot, but the price is so much more than an Elise. So i then had a go at an Elise with the Soft Top removed. Hey i managed getting in and Out with only mild discomfort. So i can get in and out of an Elise. But only on Warm Sunny Days and with out the roof on while entering and exiting the car. Now i have been watching all the Emira videos that i can . It is looking absolutely Gorgeous and has a bigger door than the Evora so will be even easier !!!! to get in and out of the car. I have even been onto to the Lotus Emira and specced my dream car , more than once i hasten to add. Now pricing seems to bear ABSOLUTELY NO Resemblance to the ORIGINAL : Less than 60k that Lotus spoke about in the announcement. So the dilemma persists for this 64 year old looking to a buy a Lotus . The Esprit is also a contender, but restoration and maintenance of an older car worries me somewhat. So when my Local Dealer gets in an Emira i will go and have a gander. But an Evora is still of interest. But the Elise is what i really want but for the damned entry and exit problems i have described.

  • @YensR
    @YensR 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    3:19 "It can actually be a bit awkward if you have a very large... "
    O_o
    "...wallet! "
    Oh, of course.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      +YensR Well, when a lady tells you men who drive big cars are compensating for something, take pride in telling her you drive an Elise ;)

  • @aleks_the_Great13
    @aleks_the_Great13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10k subs 5 years ago.... Well done! Thanks for bringing good quality content to us 👍🏼

  • @tomw4962
    @tomw4962 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Genuinely brilliant. Your videos are constantly improving in quality and I am loving all of the Lotus content. Top marks good sir

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Tom Whitham Thanks Tom!

  • @seal010101
    @seal010101 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wonderful! I'm tall and heavy. On the bright side, my wallet is extremely thin, so I'll never have to suffer the indignity of Elise rejection syndrome. Cheers.

  • @ctrmint
    @ctrmint 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Funny video, should do a part 2, including getting out with a passenger and in a car park with cars either side 😂

  • @TheCharleseye
    @TheCharleseye 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That moment when TH-cam recommends the video I was too embarrassed to search for! Lol

  • @bernardomotard
    @bernardomotard 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The slow motion was an instant like for me

  • @brianthegiant1
    @brianthegiant1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Love the content. It's funny that earlier this evening I was doing my usual - 'sell the idea of a Lotus to the wife sessions' by showing her a couple of your vids when she mentioned "he never shows himself getting in or out of the cars". Low and behold, a couple of hours later.............. 😊

  • @177SCmaro
    @177SCmaro 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Even though "little red sports car" is a bit of a cliche, red is a good color for these cars.
    I'm still in the "lusting after and saving up" part of my life to get one of these cars. However, having to pay for a house and also have some fun with a race car, I'm pretty sure the bank is going to have to buy me one of these and I'll just have to be in debt forever.
    Totally worth it.

  • @chrismurray1908
    @chrismurray1908 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just test drove a Elise SC. Awesome car. Owner was way over 6 feet tall and his head stuck above the windshield header. Too funny. I had awkward entry and exit, not as good as you. I own a Nissan 370Z and get in/out just fine. Keep up the good work.

  • @hArDsTyLe2259
    @hArDsTyLe2259 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I rode in an Elise a few months back and i fit in it fine :) Im 6ft 2 1/2 too!

  • @ziplepingouin1186
    @ziplepingouin1186 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    congrats on the 10k! from one of your early subscriber

  • @kevinmcg6747
    @kevinmcg6747 ปีที่แล้ว

    @jayemm - and to think this was a celebration of hitting 10k subscribers! How far you’ve come never mind the impressive garage fleet! All the very best James, Kevin.

  • @mikep7200
    @mikep7200 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If only you had been about 7 years ago, after a great test drive I crawled out and bought a Mini Cooper S instead :(

  • @elijahbutterfield4869
    @elijahbutterfield4869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Summary:
    Step 1. Open the door
    Step 2. Hope for the best

  • @ScottZ370
    @ScottZ370 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very entertaining as well as informative, glad I found this channel

  • @paulstabin6233
    @paulstabin6233 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Full marks- great video.
    Slow mo replay i's priceless.

  • @takz0743
    @takz0743 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this video. This can be done quite easily when the door can be fully open. In a garage or elsewhere when the door can be opened only halfway... now there's a challenge. I'd love to see a video on that.

  • @1nfiniteloop
    @1nfiniteloop 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    By the time I get my hands on an elise, I'll need this guide for sure.. Thankyou for making this video, was genuinely funny and also practical at the same time. Thankyou! :)

  • @tomindenver1331
    @tomindenver1331 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I stay on the thin side by not being able to take my Elise through the drive-thru at Taco Bell. The order window is too high. Gravity is our friend when getting in; nothing helps when getting out.

  • @jacobmoses3712
    @jacobmoses3712 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember to take the car key out of your pocket before getting in the car

  • @DauntingGecko
    @DauntingGecko 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You're friends with "The Mountain"?! 6'7" is crazy tall. I want to see a video of this tall fellow try and get into said car. Just for giggles. :)

  • @ElTurfStuff
    @ElTurfStuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been looking back on your early stuff and found this. Bloody brilliant, and very helpfull.

  • @jasonsadler361
    @jasonsadler361 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The first time I tried getting in and out of an Elise I looked like a complete idiot. Getting out I had to get on my hands and knees and crawl out of it, like I just couldn't figure out how to get out of it. Imagine someone pulling up to a gas pump and crawling on their hands and knees to get to the pump. Lmao, that was me

  • @MrUmandMrEr
    @MrUmandMrEr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tricky, but McLarens are even trickier if you're a carbon fibre tub.

  • @hinks0757
    @hinks0757 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well produced and entertaining video

  • @davep5829
    @davep5829 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Funny video. I find it hard enough getting in and out of the Evora!
    Pleased to see your subs rising fast.

  • @TheGregbueno
    @TheGregbueno 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    lmaoo that slow motion replay

  • @veefource
    @veefource 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hilarious video James!! I'm not big as such but have a stupidly long back so don't know if this could ever be a car for me. Very glad I watched this though :'D

  • @adriantaylor84
    @adriantaylor84 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a lot more graceful than I expected. Well done

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! It took some practise

  • @global_nomad.
    @global_nomad. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    congrats on the 10k...

  • @pacoguerilla3097
    @pacoguerilla3097 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful training. Thank’s a load !

  • @JasonMilner
    @JasonMilner 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    LOL. I ended up crawling out of an Elise the first time I tried. I'm only 1.80m & 87kg, but it was at Hethel, with roof on due to rain, & helmet on for the circuit. Not elegant, but like you said, it was fine when inside.

    • @wetlettuce4768
      @wetlettuce4768 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had to crawl out of one the first time aswell not very elegant when you're delivering the car to the customer...

  • @gregsvoice5628
    @gregsvoice5628 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He almost braced himself against the A pillar at the end lol.

  • @MichaelFrans-kb9ss
    @MichaelFrans-kb9ss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    James - can you include an entry and exit and slo-mo to your sports car reviews?

  • @mohe81
    @mohe81 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best car for a museum visit!

  • @jacobmoses3712
    @jacobmoses3712 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You didn't mention making sure the key is out of your pocket before getting in the car. You sure as hell won't be able to get at it once you are inside

  • @adamhenderson4318
    @adamhenderson4318 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also important to exhale as you enter, empty lungs makes the process easier. Care should be taken when exiting with a passenger, the tensing of the core and squeezing of the stomach muscles in exit can result in a temporary pressure that can vent as a fart into your passengers facial region- this is very hard to restore decorum and rarely does appointing blame to the car help in resolving any unintentional offence.

  • @wheelsandwatches
    @wheelsandwatches 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10k subs... well done chap. Growing fast.

    • @TomaszDominikowski
      @TomaszDominikowski 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully not literally lol

    • @888johnmac
      @888johnmac 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah.. if he keeps growing he won't get in an elise.. haha

  • @charlietwotimes
    @charlietwotimes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg that is exactly how i get into my SLK 😂 try getting in the passenger side every once in a while just for “the joy of awkward” buzz..

  • @AdamBuckley1964
    @AdamBuckley1964 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I decided to lose 4st instead, easier to get in/out & the car accelerates better, improved MPG,etc

  • @daniellai6367
    @daniellai6367 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Own the S1 model for 12 years now, and 9/10 times I either hit my head or palms end up own the floor crawling out.

  • @aarongebrewold
    @aarongebrewold 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t say I’ve ever even seen one up close but is the “drop the butt down and swing legs in” technique a non starter for the Lotus?? That tends to be the best way in most cases

  • @Adderadderadder
    @Adderadderadder 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    very hilarious video. inelegant is an understatement, lol that's the most ridiculous boarding demonstration into a car i've ever seen. but once you're in it everything looks sexy as it should.

  • @trevorpomroy550
    @trevorpomroy550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm 250lbs and I apply the toothpaste tube method when getting out of IS. Damn I need to diet! :P

  • @ahmadghobadi9803
    @ahmadghobadi9803 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is hilarious, very entertaining, thanks.

  • @mrrolandlawrence
    @mrrolandlawrence 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nifty :) my gf insisted i follow chapmans example and "add lightness". i lost 20kg, her 15kg and i have to say the elise does feel more responsive.

  • @KaganRustem
    @KaganRustem 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I daily a E85 Z4 which I decided to drop 35mm, and as a 6'3" man, the technique is the same! Lol

  • @lawrencebennett1573
    @lawrencebennett1573 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a belly like yours and have to do the same manoeuvre with a Ford fieasta

  • @4Kandlez
    @4Kandlez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's more entertaining is watching a girlfriend trying to get out for the first time

  • @lawrencebennett1573
    @lawrencebennett1573 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @50pence59
    @50pence59 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Thanks to my 10,000 subscribers" 😆

  • @hanafitalib
    @hanafitalib 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why don’t you switch open the top? The car is a cabriolet right?

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will do my best to not get fatter 😂😭

  • @MrBeboopman
    @MrBeboopman 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is pretty much the same for myself and any bloody ducati !!...... love the videos and subbed....

  • @ericjnorman
    @ericjnorman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent

  • @petetull
    @petetull 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is sooo funny! I’ve just got my S2 Elise, and I think it’ll be a while before I can do it quite as well as you Dude ha ha. Very cool

  • @jamesengland7461
    @jamesengland7461 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Karate Kid crane stance :)

  • @sh4969
    @sh4969 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was 6ft '4 but when you get older you do shrink I l could be 6ft '3 if I'm lucky , I like Lotus Elise might get Evora or defender or ford mustang fastback or skoda kodiaq if I can't fit in any Lotus or Caterhams.

  • @bungabunga-jimford
    @bungabunga-jimford 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude, you're funny

  • @linvestisseurlibre75
    @linvestisseurlibre75 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now try this technique with the rooftop 😄

  • @1234MartinM
    @1234MartinM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg… best video ever… lmao thanks👍🏻😉😁💥

  • @TheChenny73
    @TheChenny73 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never been in one. How similar is it to its cousin the Opel Speedster? My co-worker had one of those. It reminded me of a ridiculously stripped down MX-5 with zero creature comforts.

  • @MaGza2013
    @MaGza2013 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    YESS !! Thank you !! Now I know I can buy it someday ! ^^ (I was happily surprised you talked about 150 kg, then used feet for the height, but thank god, you used meters right after :) )

  • @ricglass5782
    @ricglass5782 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    try that with a 1969 Lotus Europa S2

  • @benjaminlocksmith8932
    @benjaminlocksmith8932 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God I love you

  • @ggarrison1087
    @ggarrison1087 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    congrats on 10k!

  • @RedChicow
    @RedChicow 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Classic video - so true

  • @jamesshin1288
    @jamesshin1288 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice!!! Good job!

  • @StephenButlerOne
    @StephenButlerOne 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many years ago I manages to get into a Vx220 (iirc the name), and given I have 4 goosed lower disks I just couldn't get out.
    I did own a celica (2litre not the gt4 😕) in the 90s, loved the car, but as my back worsened, some days I couldn't lift my left leg over the sill to exit some days.
    So my sports car days are behind me. I now prefer a hot hatch,not that I have one. Currently an GTC 165 (auto), next up is a vrs estate (need the space). However One day I may get an MX5, I may manage one of those.
    Pick up my back issue in 98 serving in the RM. I've fallen along way, and put a bit of timber on too. Giant exercise with goosed disks. 😕

  • @conorturton
    @conorturton 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also works great for a MX5.

  • @Morboeatspeople
    @Morboeatspeople ปีที่แล้ว

    Next up: S1

  • @GrossmeisterB6
    @GrossmeisterB6 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks so much easier on the S2, comparing it with my S1...

  • @MrCarrera28
    @MrCarrera28 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!!

  • @crxgator
    @crxgator ปีที่แล้ว

    About how tall are you and your weight? Or if you don’t want to disclose how about someone that’s 5’10” 225lbs 36w 32 inseam.

  • @t.kausch419
    @t.kausch419 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh, I have to do yoga before.... nice

  • @losunimo88
    @losunimo88 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video!

  • @adampetten5349
    @adampetten5349 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're husky like a strongman 😎

  • @BruceLeroyUK
    @BruceLeroyUK 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm taller and fatter and you made it look so easy. My friend owns one and he has to took the roof down for me. And I still look like a twat trying to get in or out.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Toyin Oshodi Silicon spray the sills!

  • @HairFollicle
    @HairFollicle ปีที่แล้ว

    One problem i dont have money to buy one

  • @markholttum
    @markholttum 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on

  • @MsMsmak
    @MsMsmak 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny! How tall are you anyway?

  • @nonamerider4953
    @nonamerider4953 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How tall are you?
    Doesn’t look like you are over 1,75m since the elise is about 1,15m high😅

  • @Gasaguru
    @Gasaguru 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jay i just forwarded this onto a really really good friend of mine as i honestly thought it would help. It wasn't appreciated. He called me a C**T

    • @sibdj
      @sibdj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was a fair point well made, you are 😉

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Now ladies keep it civil

    • @sibdj
      @sibdj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      JayEmm on Cars 😂😂

    • @Gasaguru
      @Gasaguru 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      JayEmm on Cars it seems to be a case of lotus NV from a Boxster driver. These Porsche guys can’t take a helping hand from anyone.

    • @sibdj
      @sibdj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alex Robinson *cough* *cough* Cayman.
      See my original point, he really is a...

  • @johntheman2006
    @johntheman2006 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video. Thanks for sharing. I'm 6'4" and on the larger side, do you think I'd be able to fit in? I've kinda got the Elise on my list...

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +John Medhurst It would be a tight fit, definitely need to try one. You can gain a little bit of space by removing the runners from the drivers seat. Your height will be the biggest issue

  • @Garage12
    @Garage12 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    curently on the "lotus diet" as im 6ft 3 and too heavy... lol busying an exige s3 as soon as my current car sells, already test drove one and its not the best for leg room but ive seen a few mods you can do to make a bit more space, but the want for one is too much, i suppose its like buying those trainers thats a bit too small but you like them too much? ha

  • @garybanbury
    @garybanbury 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Looking forward to more, Picking my 2006 Elise up this weekend can't wait . Any idea what S or R stands for?

    • @jasoncullen2653
      @jasoncullen2653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm guessing you found the answer 3 years ago when you picked yours up ;) but the 111S is a K-series engined car with around 160bhp and the 111R is a Toyota engined car with around 190bhp

    • @garybanbury
      @garybanbury 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes & still loving it! Hopefully the weather improves soon so I can do some miles.

  • @TamiyaPhilippW
    @TamiyaPhilippW 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:18 just impressive

  • @-Ribu
    @-Ribu 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, great videos! When is the follow up for the MR2 coming?

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Akuma Gaming as soon as we possibly can, probably in two weeks time

    • @-Ribu
      @-Ribu 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      JayEmm on Cars can't wait, thanks for the reply!

  • @freerkderuiter8822
    @freerkderuiter8822 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Getting in and out of an Elise is fine as long as you can open the door all the way. If you are jammed it gets hard.

    • @JimboCamUK
      @JimboCamUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Release the handbrake and push with one hand to convenient position. Sorted.

  • @Pokecana
    @Pokecana 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very funny 😄 😂

  • @p4cks
    @p4cks 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    you can have perfected the technique and repeated it countless times but once you have an audience it all goes out of the window and you invariably end up looking like a wally

  • @stephenpenney8596
    @stephenpenney8596 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not so easy if you are fatter than Jay…and have short legs too.
    Unclipping the soft top is the only way !!

  • @farmerted1621
    @farmerted1621 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please. "Fat Guy" hmmmmm? Come to the US. Very few small cars here for a reason...🍟

  • @tomthompson7400
    @tomthompson7400 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    is the z4 coupe anything like as tricky ??

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No

    • @tomthompson7400
      @tomthompson7400 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JayEmmOnCars Many thanks , Im off to look at one , but Ive never even sat in one , and at 6ft and 16 stones and broad shouldered it would be very embarrassing if I didnt fit in it , I know youve driven one and having a powerfully developed lower chest your opinion is much valued.