Is Vanessa Really Elizabeth? - FNAF THEORY
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Sounds like a yes or no question but it really isn't.
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I first heard of this theory from @melissagarcia1705 who commented the idea on one of my videos: th-cam.com/video/ljyO4e3ozLY/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
How is Cassie a robot version of Charlie? I wanna know because to that makes no sense.
@@Sonicmid The link in the pinned comment is a video that goes over that
@@VaguelyRowlet
1. Cassie has a whole ass, father and mother
2. William can’t build robots because he’s physically incapable of loving this is a plot in the book
3. Mimic is glitch and burn trap.
4. The puppet and all of the spirits were confirmed to be set for the VR 2
5. Cassie and Charlie look nothing alike and 2 completely different characters with two completely different motives
6. GGY confirms that Gregory is not a robot.
@@VaguelyRowlet it’s also important to know William dies in a lake
The chip is removed from baby pre ennard fight so the voice line copying Elizabeth canonically happens without the chip
I do believe this. Glitchtrap, and the Mimi1 program itself, are made to recreate the information they're given. That's why they create sub-routines and new characters each time. But i don't believe this happens because -yes, i believe there's a very important reason why. Because the Mimic, the Storyteller, Glitchtrap, Vanny, whoever, are all AIs made with the purpose of re-create the FNAF games. They've been fed with these games and story in HW (And possibly more off-camera), and the program is MADE to recreate the past.
Why does Glitchtrap choose people to become Afton's kids? Well, you've said that yourself. Why does he kidnaps kids by luring them into the Pizzaplex? Because that's what Afton did. Why does he torment kids in the daycare and in the sewers with Marionettes? Because that's what Afton did with the hallucinogenic gas. Why do they have a Scooper? Well, because Afton had it. Even the fact that there are random Gs and Ys in the Glamrocks, parts of Gregory's name, is a choice made by the Mimic program to symbolize the fact that, just as BV, there are pieces of GGY in the animatronics.
He makes the choice of cutting off Jeremy's face. He locks Vanessa in an arcade game, just as the MCI kids' souls, from which BV (GGY) would free them from. The Princess herself is a reference to Cassidy, because he's learned from her from the games. SB's story is just a straight up copy of the old games: office sections, playing arcade games, destroying the main band and putting their pieces in one body, Springtrap and Molten Freddy (Burntrap and the Tangle) hidden in the basement, many of the endings we burn down the place, there are bunkers and secret experiment rooms in the basement, Chica's still missing her beak, (Golden) Freddy keeps losing his head and says "I AM NOT ME" (Similar to "IT'S ME"). And the connections don't end there! Ruin, with Cassie (Similar to Cassidy) trying to save Gregory (BV), she's led by the small happy bear with a changing personality, as she goes deeper and deeper into the Pizzaplex, entering a ghostly dimension where she can teleport through glitched portals into digital spaces, util she descends so deep that she finds the red lake surrounded by trees, a place she cannot escape from. It's basically FNAF World.
It can best be explained by explaining the program itself. In The Storyteller, it is described as: "It's a simple template-style software that takes pieces from previously created stories, and rearranges them into new scenarios for VR, AR and arcade games". And that's exactly what it is used for. It is used for FNAF VR, in which it creates Gltchtrap. It is used in FNAF AR, but is salvaged by Vanessa before it does anything. Then, it is again used for Help Wanted 2, the best example, as we see pieces from FFPS, Fall Fest, and SL all together and mixed and different, just to fit. But what i've said before, with the characters and plotpoints, also work under this programming. They are characters from the past, like GGY being BV, but they do things that other characters do, such as Gregory destroying the animatronics, thing William is the one to do in Follow Me. Mimic/Glitchtrap/Whatever chooses people to make them fot their characters, and then warps their story arcs, like with Vanessa; if she's Elizabeth, then she shouldn't be redeemed, as Elizebeth is not redeemed in both continuities she appears in, but Vanessa IS redeemed, differenciating both characters.
The story repeats itself, not because it simply does, but because there is an AI pulling the strings to make the story go on certain directions so it can tell a similar story. It has lore behind it, and narrative weight.
0:04 yeah but-
Elizabeth is confirmed to be a ginger (symbolizing her orange hued hair) and was also said their mother has orange hair and green eyes as well!
So far we have no confirmation for Mrs Afton about her name..
But im thinking it's not Clara or Vanessa, but in thinking someone we might already know. And that they're from the books (not talking about Charlie)
The Clara shit only came from The Immortal and the Restless and people was like "YOO MIKE MOM NAME IS CLARA" when that was never the case
I talk about Elizabeth's hair color not technically being blonde later in the video
Mrs. Afton's design was not confirmed. Elizabeth Afton's was. In the immortal and the restless, Afton and Mrs. A's human designs are referenced. I believe Mrs. A is blonde because blonde/ginger hair shares the same allele. And it would generally make more sense biologically to have two brown haired children and one ginger if the mother is blonde and the father is brunette. Similar to skin color, it's more accurate for Mrs. A to have more tanned/darker skin like we see for Elizabeth and Mike and perhaps Evan too, (in the guide Evan is extremely pale due to lack of sleep, dehydration, symbolism of blood-loss skin, etc). Just because the child is ginger doesn't mean the mother automatically is. (I take biology so this information of genetics was based on my AP biology class. Blonde mothers tend to have ginger kids, ginger moms tends to have blonde/dirty blonde kids and vise versa.)
I just think the Elizabeth Vanessa thing is up for whatever people want.
I dont agree with the Gregbot or Vanbeth theories since I just dont see it, but that's just my opinion
Adding on: I don't think Gregory is a robot, however the idea of him being an actor for Evan(CC) as far as the theory you just made, I can see that and same thing with Vanessa
The only real thing I could kind of see was GlamMike but that's just because Mike has no other role in fnaf anymore past Pizzasim and I doubt he would rest if a form of his father is back
I in no way mean to sound mean when I say this so please don't take it that way.
One thing that people seem to forget about the Mimic is it's not just a program. It's an AI program. Which means that while it requires a human to help it learn, at some point the AI will no longer have a use for the human once they are capable of independent processes. This also means that it will also then have a motive to do whatever it is that it's doing. Because while the program gets to watch humans and see what they do, it is aware it cannot be human. Thus it has 3 possible calculations. Destroy humanity, Escape it's digital hell or make all humanity a slave to it.
My personal thoughts are that the AI attempted, and to some degree still is, to do all 3 to see which one wins. I also do not believe the theory that Afton just went insane and killed for his own gains. The Mimic is proven to be there since the beginning. At least since Fall Fest 1979. Which means that it had plenty of humans to learn from and advance itself. By the time 83 rolls around we see the bite and a defeated father. However, I do not think William came up with the idea to "put you back together". I believe the Mimic AI was manipulating him through his constant contact with the programing to help run the other animatronics and the Pizzeria. It made him believe he could bring CC back.
An AI with an unshackled access to all the knowledge of the world would know what remnant is and how it can be used to help further it's own plans. And yes, the internet was available during the 80's. While it was only used by Governments and world leaders, remember, Fazbear was eventually given access to a criminal database. Something only someone with a government or police clearance can have access to. Afton should have went to jail for his crimes, yet the police never got warrants for the animatronic suits that the parents complained about. If there were that many complaints and there was already an ongoing investigation into missing children then a warrant would have been easy to get. Yet, it never happened. Not to mention that in the US you have to have a legal Patent on any and all inventions that you then want to share with the public. Which means the Government knew about all of this and nothing happened to William, only Henry.
The Mimic AI knew that if Henry thought it was manipulating or trying to escape he would shut the whole thing down ASAP. But it knew Afton was already a narcissist who would stop at nothing to be great. The Mimic may have manipulated police records or evidence in order to remove Henry from the picture so it could have as much time as possible with William to do whatever it needed him to do.
The Mimic is more than a simple program. It's an AI. Ever learning, ever watching and evolving. Eventually it will want what it thinks its creator has. Freedom.
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@@VaguelyRowlet I GOT A MENTION TOO!
@@dwfan91- Your Reincarnation Theory is one of my favorites about these characters since it doesn't just handwave away all of their similarities
@@VaguelyRowlet This was a very great theory too
@@dwfan91- Thank you!
Vanessa was never Elizabeth. The whole robot thing gets disconfirmed by the fourth closet because William has no love in his heart so he can’t make robot kids
Debatable on the "William doesn't love his kids or wife" part, but I agree with you.
@@SunshineSugar1567 in both the movie and books. It’s basically confirmed he doesn’t
And it’s probably like that in the games too since he sent his son to go fight murder machines put his victim remnant in
And it’s implied bite victim is an experiment victim
@@Sonicmidhey sonicmid i got a theory on mind that i want to ask what you think about it.
We all know scraptrap looks weird in many design aspect.
Yet the snout looks like a freddy snout. Could it mayby be that scraptrap used golden freddy parts to repair himself, yet ends up getting souls mixed up with cassidy/ crying child. That could explain UCN
@@dia7877no because the vengeful spirit is Andrew
Cassidy inside molten Freddy
And he doesn’t have two souls
@@Sonicmidandrew is not the vengeful spirit, never was and never will be. That would be the worst twist in fnaf history
I think a problem the community seems to have is that people take things too literally. In no world does two characters or events having thematic parallels mean they’re somehow tied to other, I think two characters can be thematic counterparts, foils, or parallels without it meaning they’re secretly faz-goo copies or robot replicas or agony demons or whatever
The problem is that there are too many doors open. Every game has the unreliable narrorator issue because the multiple different methods created in uniniverse to mess with senses.
Robot duplicates, perfect replacements, clones, and full take over of people's bodies happen multiple times in the books. This leads to, at minimum, a pattern of ideas that likely also bleed into the games story.
Gregory has little to no backstory currently, depending on how closely you believe GGY is connected to the games' story. Vanessa has more background, but her being Vanny has been muddled by specifically 1 ending in Security Breach. The therapy tapes also significantly tie her to Elizabeth as most of the answers would be exactly what we know Elizabeth would answer.
We either need solid answers on details or significantly more structure in the naritive to give us defined limits on what is actually possible in the world. We now have the time travel ball pit coming directly into a game.
@@RFDN0 You're right about that. FNAF's open-ended narrative can really be to its own detriment at times. Took *9 years* to finally get answers on the FNAF 4 Nights and how Sister Location called their reality into question. No, I'm not salty. What makes you think that? 🫠
Im just gonna say it definitely might be Elizabeth in the fnaf movie Vanessa might not even be her real name, at least in the movie version
exactly, it could be elizibeth vannesa afton full name😳
hear me out.. full name elizabeth vannesa afton or vannesa elizabeth afton
im starting to think that vanny may have something to do with her name being vanessa… and a combination of the word… bunny… but it’s just a thought
It's not a coincidence...
@@VaguelyRowlet this is coming together…
*So ,* I think Vanessa has memories of Elizabeth, like how Circus Baby bot has memories of Elizabeth and Charlie. In my way of thinking, Vanessa is just brainwashed to have memories of her whether she knows it’s Elizabeth’s or not.
They don’t that’s actually their experience most likely, as much as I hate to say this Vanessa the 4th might be true
I want to point out that the whole "Circus Baby is manipulative" point puts a question on the exact nature of separation between "What is bad and what is good" when you take her chip, or even if the chip actually contained anything important at all and wasn't just a ploy to get Mike into the Scooping room.
But it certainly would explain how she changes between Sister Location and Pizza Sim, yeah. Though she doesn't change immediately. She's not immediately "Elizabeth" like you say.
If anything there is a gradual change, which doesn't seem indicative of something literally being taken out of her.
It would also be strange for Baby herself to tell you take out what is bad and save what is good, and for the part that is bad and that you remove from her body *is her*
Yeah it's possible that was fully a lie, but her change in Pizza Sim makes me think there was some truth to it.
If it is a gradual change, that could be Elizabeth's Remnant having more and more effect on Baby's programming overtime, now that Circus Baby's sentience is gone.
I'd say Baby referring to herself as the "bad" that needs to be removed was probably just part of convincing Mike to do what she wanted, making it sound like a positive, good thing.
elizabeth,is the 2th charliebot created henry,the remnant of charlie gives setience to ella doll,that was passed to elizabeth
charlie is possesing both the puppet and circus baby at the same time
its absurd, but explain a lot of what is going
After william afton kindnapped Henry Child(crying child), he mold him to be his apprentice, just for henry suffer even more, knowing him son be the responsible for future deaths
there two house, one from william, another from henry
the one from fnaf 4 minigame, is from henry
the one house in the hills is from william
Charlie isn't possessing CB, its the charlie mimic ai from the charlie bots.
5:45 I’m a keep it 100 you I don’t think burnttrap exist
All of the non-canon endings are drawings Gregory made up
And burn trap has 4 fingers here while in the cut scene 5 and vr 2 the thing that gets out the pod glitchtrap
I think burntrap is just Gregory’s really cool OC character
But the blob exists and we know that, why would he make a comic about the blob and william by just guessing
We know the Tangle exists. It is seen in Ruin before Cassy gets the VANNI mask (item which makes everything she sees unreliable (easily retconable). So that almost proves that Gregory at minimum saw the Tangle... which also happens to be in the picture.
We also have significant reasons to believe that Gregory had a probe in his head, which if True makes everything he experienced in Security Breach now questionable. We have evidence that some form of Princess Quest ending happened and that some form of Burn Trap ending happened. We also know neither ending finished the way we would have seen. Princess Quest 4 exists in Help Wanted 2 and the Tangle leaves at the very beginning in RUIN.
There is honestly significantly too much unreliability and conflicting clues to nail down what is actually going on.
@@RFDN0 the difference between the blob is that he’s in tales and was made by the mimic so he doesn’t count
@@GriffinCantThink because the blob actually does exist. We know this for a fact due to tails and mimic being the one who built him
Burntrap on the other hand has literally nothing
@@Sonicmid I was not even referring to tales. Only Srcurity Breach and RUIN.
Before I watch, I wanna give my answer, and it is yee, no, maybe, all of them. I think all of them are correct.
As a VannyElizabeth, let's see where this goes 👀
I know this is a pretty dumb comment to make because logically, we all know this, but I'm making it anyway because this is important to remember in the theory community, especially with a lot of people treating certain theorists poorly for certain opinions and perspectives on canon.
Just because a theory is wrong doesn't mean it's bad!
Realistically, it would not make sense for Gregbot or Vanbeth to be literally canon, because they're clearly supposed to be new characters with their own stories, despite the thematic similarities between them and CC and Elizabeth. BUT I have seen a lot of people in the theory community hating on people for liking these theories or even just discussing them as a possibility, and I feel like that's just not conducive to making theories and having fun, which is the entire point of this community in the first place. Theories aren't supposed to take canon at face value. They aren't supposed to match the facts exactly as they are. They also aren't supposed to be taken seriously all the time.
So if, say, someone were to make a theory about Gregory being a robot intended to be a recreation of the Crying Child, that should be totally fine and even encouraged because let's say it again, everyone: theories can just be theories. We're here to have fun, share ideas about what could be canon, and discuss the merits and problems with various theories. But people forget that a lot in most theory communities, which leads to certain fans hating on each other for making theories that are "unrealistic" and "too ridiculous" or even "an insult to canon." I think that's the real insult to canon and even the fan communities we live in- hating on each other for coming up with ideas that may not necessarily be true.
See what I'm getting at? Obviously not every theory without its criticisms, but we're here to have fun, not criticize each other for not following canon perfectly.
This isn't directed towards anyone in particular, I just feel it's important to talk about no matter what theory community I'm in. It's very important to remember that we're supposed to have fun and bounce ideas off of each other, not get at each other's throats for "doing it wrong." That's just not a healthy dynamic to maintain in any community, because smaller creators might feel discouraged and might stop making theories entirely out of fear that they're doing it wrong. We don't want that!
Anyways. Sorry for the off-topic rant, I hope I wasn't rude or anything by making this comment. And I love this video, it thoroughly discusses a subject that's, uh, kind of heated in the community, without criticizing people for agreeing with the theory. Great job! I'll check out the videos you linked later today. I'm excited to see what you have to say on those subjects. :)
I totally agree! And I really appreciate the kind words :)
Yessir. An amazing comeback. I love you man. Keep going.
Also sorry I was late.
Thanks so much!!
@@baguettefarm7959 Np! I'M SORRY I WAS LATE LOL
@@VaguelyRowlet lol
Why not "simply" state that Vanessa is similar to Charlie?
Elizabeth died young, just like CC; only to get rebuilt like Charlie was?
(I mean, that was baby's role in the 4th closet?)
I do apologise if this was mentioned properly, i struggled to keep it all in mind
Because Vanessa is not a robot that whole thing got debunked
To be honest I don’t mind if Vanessa was some sort of reincarnation of Elizabeth’s soul or something (I’m honestly fan of Gregory, Vanessa and freddy being the afton siblings) but the thing that conflicts me is that Elizabeth is always associated with clowns while Vanessa is always associated with rabbits, plus with the whole vanny thing it kinda feels like their just stacking together a bunch ideas into one character.
Now if it were up to me what I would do is instead of naming Vanessa and vanny the same character I would have made vanny the VANNI mask itself that’s also a evil digital AI (like glitchtrap) that possesses Vanessa through the mask in order to steal her identity, that way they can be 2 different people while sharing the same body, that way Vanessa could be an ally to us while being unaware that she’s possessed and at the end of the game we have to save her and defeat glitchtrap, also in my mind Vanny can only take over Vanessa’s body for 1 hour a day and she can only do it in places where the VANNI mask unit can be used, Gregory still needs to play the process quest arcade machines to save/free Vanessa but that only separates the 2, in order to fully destroy vanny you have to use 3 special keys to first destroy the glitchtrap virus and then destroy her mask.
11:22 I agree with Elizabeth and Vanessa connection, but Glitchtrap is William. Also the therapist telling Gregory that his backstory was fake, could be hinting that Vanessa's backstory is also changed. Vanessa genuinely believes that Glitchtrap is her father, and they literally made her William's daughter in the movie. Glitchtrap = William.
11:57 Uhh, we don't actually know if Glitchtrap only controls Vanessa and Gregory, because Tape Girl is Vanessa and we play as someone completely new in HW 1. Also HW 1 has 3 endings, all of which ends in Glitchtrap winning. And Glitchtrap almost took over Jeremy, who has nothing to do with the Afton family, and who is also Cassie's father and the one who was put inside the MaskBot (his brain and eyes are still visible in MaskBot). Glitchtrap killed Jeremy like he didn't mean anything when he tried to take over his mind in HW 1. As you can see here, Glitchtrap doesn't care who he controls. He only cares about Vanessa and Gregory only because they remind him of his kids.
12:40 Uhhh... What? Are we talking about the same William here? Because the William I know never wants to crowd to know about his existence. It's been the case both in the Trilogy and the movie. He's been just a security guard in the Trilogy (which seems to be the case in the games), and has been a career counselor in the movie. This guy is all about stealth. He even hid his experiments (Funtimes) in an underground facility just so the public couldn't find out about them. I think you confused William's personality, tbh.
Glitchrap is not William, William is in this coma hosital thing and Glitchtrap is alluded to being the mimic/charlie bot ai virus thing. William is gone mentally, at least. He is so far from consciousness that Glitchtrap being him doesn't make sense. (particularly since it acts like the rabbit toy from the whole charlie graphic novels)
@@SunshineSugar1567 "The Man In Room 1280" ending shows how William's soul got into the chips/parts that were scanned to make the VR game (he explodes and his pieces scatter all around, landing on parts within the Fazbear Entertainment Distribution Center).
He's not in UCN, hence why OMC and Cassidy are stuck in the Princess Quest arcade games. They are following after him. So is Michael (he's still alive) and Charlie (she's inside Glamrock Freddy in SB and Roxy in Ruin).
@@xM0nst3Rx What do you mean Mike is alive? I understand (to an extent) why you believe everything else but why do you think Mike is still alive?
@@xM0nst3Rxthe man in room 1280 was explaining all the evil characters in the books, also he sprays agony, not his soul, agony creates new creatures, they def scanned the mimic, also we dont know if the books are canon
@@xM0nst3Rxalso that last paragraph is all theory nothing in that is confirmed
This is a long stretch but I think theirs a possibility of Vanessa adopting Gregory after the events of security breach, 1. The story candy cadet tells us about a mother and a boy locking a monster in the basement (it could be referring to Gregory and Vanessa but then again it could not), then we have the security nodes that are called parent nodes and child nodes (that can’t be a coincidence).
10:20 that’s not Cassidy that’s Andrew
Cassidy cannot the final speaker because the mini game happens in 1983 at the hospital bed
William saying I will put you back together is referring to molten Freddy
William didn't make Molten Freddy. Even assuming MotlenMCI, Henry is either mistaking what the funtimes did to themselves as William's fault or he's referring to a never seen conglomeration of them akin to The Fourth Closet that he stuck into the Scooper.
@@WatchThisSpace415 William put the animatronics in the fun times
They become ennard to escape and then molten Freddy after injecting baby
“ fascinating what they have become”
No evidence that Andrew exists in the games universe
@@blocks4857 Here’s all the evidence Andrews the vengeful spirit
. Toy chica, anime cut scenes actually kill 7 people in the first there’s already a foxy hook, which likely represents Charlie (It’s also important to that the deaths are out of order but it’s mainly meant to show that William killed six kids with one he killed before Freddy’s)
. Into the pit is 100% canon at this point due to it getting another book which is a sequel to the week before which is confirmed to be canon and it also getting its own game
. Into the pit graphic novel shows that there are 6 kids 4 boys 2 girls (it’s also stated in the book, however graphic novel confirms it was not a mistake It is factual.)
. Custom night is the 7 night and ucn is the 7 game so logically the 7 victim who would be the one who creates it
. There’s 7 graves in Fnaf world next to purple guy implying their kids he killed.
. In curse of dread bear, there is 8 graves surrounding Williams grave. (the 8 is tape girl while glitch trap isn’t William He thinks he is so he considers his kills on the same level as William)
. Chica and mangle treat the one you should not have killed as a rarity like nobody has seen them before which doesn’t work for golden Freddy because they are literally a team. Chica was there when golden Freddy was born. And shown interacting with him in the Fnaf 2 opening cutscenes and mangle is literally influenced by them. (there’s an Easter egg in mangle fnaf 2 file with golden Freddy titled “yellow”)
. Chica and mangle know the one you should not have killed it because they’re in the vents with him which means it can’t be golden Freddy because they never seen him before.
. Golden Freddy and the one you should have killed her at the same location at the same time so they can’t be the same.
. It said that he’s here and always watching implying he’s in every level of UCN Meanwhile, you can turn off golden Freddy anytime.
.toysnhk is implied to not be participating in the torture he just watches. This is also further implied by nightmare Freddy “I am remade” he remade them just so he could watch William suffer
. Golden Freddy actively tries to kill Afton. That’s not watching that’s participating.
. The one you should not have killed voice is heard in the back of the mediocre melodies. Meanwhile, we hear FredBear’s voice and it’s literally just a bunch of distorted dialogue implying it different.
. Scott himself confirmed that the one you should not have killed his male as he said, he used his son “Jason” as the picture for him. Cassidy is 100% a girl as proven the the fourth closet and the into the pit graphic novel
. Nightmare, an entity tied to the Nightmare experiments stats that "THE SHADOW FEARS ME".
"The shadow is referring to Xor/Deedee, who controls UCN. AKA, Andrew.
. Mangle say “ and always watching” implying he’s not actually a part of the torment where golden Freddy is literally an opponent.
. Toysnok and golden Freddy are treated as separate character. Toysnok is more of an Easter egg character. He appears rarely in game over screens. He also hides in the vents further adding to mangle statement of him always watching
. Fred Bear’s voice by Kellen Goff while the one you should not have killed his voice by Tabatha skanes
(Why wouldn’t they have the same voice if they were the same entity)
. Happiest day for is Cassidy meaning that they can’t torture William because they’ve moved on. Also, no golden Freddy doesn’t have two spirits. (evidence for this is that: the story was supposed to end at 3 and crying child in the encyclopedia isn’t listed in 3)
. The man in room 1280 William is only stated to have two arms, not 2 hands so the design is still consistent
. Cassidy torturing william is out of character since every instance they interact she just wants to kill him in fact in follow me. The spirits disappeared because they think William dead.
(this gets even worse if you think the princess is her in my opinion it’s a recreation of not the actual spirit. Since the old man consequences and princess quest doesn’t add anything like the real one.)
(this is going under the idea William didn’t die in the suit. Andrew just kept him alive)
. Old man consequences says leave the demon to his demons. Implying that the one torturing William is just like him.
. Everybody refers to the one you should not have killed as a guy Cassidy is a girl
. Into the pit is getting a game, which is when the 6 kid was introduced. They’re not going to remove him since Andrew’s a vital plot point to the books.
. The into the pit game is Cannon. It’s the 10th anniversary game.
. Orville line “ he tried to release you. He tried to release us, but I’m not gonna let that happen. I will hold you here. I will keep you here no matter how many times they burn us.” this implies the spirit is attached to William as burn means they were burned together
. Book argument is bad because Henry came from books and was add to game and so was the mimic.
. Andrew is not a parallel to Cassidy due to the logbook showing what Cassidy is really like and she just seems like a nice person trying to help someone else. Where Andrew was mean due to his backstory and so tuation, so they’re not parallels.
. There’s a weird theme that in UCN that implies that William and Andrew are the same William hates Henry and Andrew hates William.
One of the ucn songs is called eisoptrophobia an unhealthy fear of mirrors. This implies William and the one you should not have killed are the same.
Cassidy/golden Freddy is meant to be William opposite not the same as them so it can’t be them.
. In 6 you can hear William’s heart beating meaning that the person is still alive in the suit. This means that somethings been keeping him alive since he’s wouldn’t be immortal yet due to him not actually getting immortal as his plan fails in follow me
. Cassidy is incapable of attaching to Afton because they’re stuck to molten Freddy. Also doesn’t make sense for them to be able to do that because why haven’t they done that to anybody else?
. If William knew he couldn’t die then it makes his appearance in 6 make much more sense. He knew it was a trap so why would he come simple he knows in the end he’s going to survive thanks to andrew
. Nightmare Freddy knows who the one you should not have killed is implying a connection
. In the song sleep no more you can hear a heartbeat, which is more proof that ucn is a nightmare caused by the spirit who attached himself to William
. UCN is very connected to 4 and it’s implied that the one you should not have killed is an experiment victim of William.
Ucn is the game that made Nightmarionne, nightmare, mangle Jacko chica and JackoBonnie Cannon.
. Nightmarionne is UCN main icon character.
. Nightmarionne line: “I am the fearful reflection of what you have created” Nightmarionne is the representation of the experiment rooms Williams greatest achievement, a place which is literally meant to torment children and kill them. Nightmarionne likely the creation of Andrews agony.
.When you light 6 graves in PQ4 you encounter nightmarionne plush after that.
. Neddbear line: “this is how it feels, and you get to experience it over and over again”. This is how it feels part of the line implies the spirit has been in a similar place to William where they had to defend from animatronics.
. nightmare Freddy and fredbear voice line.
“ I am remade but not by you by the one you should not have killed”
“ this time there is more than a illusion to fear”
. UCN final office is the Fnaf 4 one”
. This also makes UCN narrative greater. William once fore and watched them go through tournament(the experiment room cameras in SL office) now they get to force and watch William go through torment. Until he blows up
. Mimic has spring locks in his leg which is from the jester costume he was trapped in tales is canon, and there’s a story and tails called frailty about Eleanor meaning that stitchline is meaning that Andrew Cannon
. Fnaf vr 2 grave lineups represent the order of the spirits were set free and golden Freddy is there Cassidy was set free.
Now we need to ask the question: why is golden Freddy given so much relevance in UCN?
I believe that golden Freddy/Fredbear is meant to represent Henry. Golden Freddy has all of the special abilities because of William fear of a golden Freddy because that’s the character who represents Henry in William mind
We hear UCN FredBears lines and they’re not spirit lines. They’re just pawn lines like the other.
“ let’s find a suit that’s right for you”
“There was more fantasy and fun where I came from”
The void cut scene is meant to represent William getting over his fear of Henry and what he did to him which is why golden Freddy fades away shaking violently likes springtrap
It’s also important to know that molten Freddy is the golden Freddy representative of 6 golden Freddy has a representative in every game in the original story
Fnaf 1: golden Freddy
Fnaf 2: withered golden Freddy
Fnaf 3: phantom Freddy (confirmed in the files)
Fnaf 4: nightmare Fredbear
Fnaf Sl:yendo
Fnaf 6: nobody other than molten Freddy as it has to be in the main gameplay.
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i think that Vanessa was brainwashed by Glitchtrap/William Afton to believe that she was Elizabeth because of all of their physical similarities.
I think their different Elizabeth is already dead in the ffps ending so that’s the short answer
Wait I know it was thrown in at the end as a joke but what if Vanessa really is just Elizabeth's twin sister? The hair thing doesn't matter, hair changes as you age, but it would line up all the other similarities and it has a parallel in the Silver Eyes trilogy with Sammy existing just being taken initially by their mom, and we know what happens to her.
That's an intriguing idea
Theyre Similar, but Are Separate Identities.
Mabey Vanny, if she is an outside source, then mabey.
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