Miscellaneous Myths: Dionysus

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  • @expansionpack4485
    @expansionpack4485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7517

    I like to think Dionysus is just as angry and powerful as he always has been, but only when he's sober.

    • @seludovici
      @seludovici 3 ปีที่แล้ว +180

      Like the Hulk.

    • @Breidablik06
      @Breidablik06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +416

      Or he is far superior in strength compared to all the other gods when sober

    • @jacobturnage
      @jacobturnage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Amen

    • @nicodemusedwards6931
      @nicodemusedwards6931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +380

      That’s why they have to keep him drunk. Otherwise he’d overthrow Zeus.

    • @lemurpie9381
      @lemurpie9381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@Breidablik06 since his an og god, he might just be

  • @kariscoyne1886
    @kariscoyne1886 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4059

    "what does feral wildlife and crippling insanity have to do with a fine chardonnay?" Well, someone's *clearly* not going to the right parties

    • @chocochipzzz4434
      @chocochipzzz4434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      I died when I read that

    • @Silverwind87
      @Silverwind87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      Dionysus invented raves and furry conventions.

    • @TORchic1
      @TORchic1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Drunken Furry Convention After-Parties?

    • @kariscoyne1886
      @kariscoyne1886 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@TORchic1 I was actually thinking bush doofs but you know what? You're absolutely right.

    • @Rabijeel
      @Rabijeel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Or did not play Fallout Series or The Elder Scrolls Series.....
      And: 1001 - Sweet Nights, Sherezade.

  • @alastryona
    @alastryona 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5581

    So Dionysus is like snails or lobster: mostly for the poor people until someone rich and powerful noticed and wanted in

  • @lilenwasnothere6867
    @lilenwasnothere6867 ปีที่แล้ว +2368

    honestly, a characterization of dionysus where he is an outgoing party animal who's super chill most of the time but absolutely reminds you why he is technically a god of death and also of hallucinations when you fuck up sounds incredible. not only do you get a three dimensional character with a sense of mystery proper of a god, it also works as a reminder of both sides of drinking and partying.

    • @ianhogben3472
      @ianhogben3472 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      and when the mood takes him being completely unhinged

    • @Dokataa
      @Dokataa ปีที่แล้ว +97

      He generally a god of insanity. In Greece they didn’t know why people acted weird after drinking wine, so they decided “oh Dionysus”

    • @girlinthetardis.0418
      @girlinthetardis.0418 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ✍️ jotting this down for Dionysus's appearance in my story tysm

    • @MattMcIrvin
      @MattMcIrvin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "I am the lizard king... I can do anything! Raise your hand if you understand!"

    • @MayliSong
      @MayliSong 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I made a similar comment years ago and I was worried no one saw it, so I’m glad to see that about 1.8k since have had a similar thought. The line between intoxication and madness is pretty thin after all.

  • @bluelfsuma
    @bluelfsuma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2991

    Headcanon: Mycenaean Dionysus dies, becomes Orphic Dionysus. Orphic Dionysus dies, becomes Hellenistic Dionysus. Fits with his whole death/rebirth thang.

    • @asonounds1862
      @asonounds1862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      i like that

    • @Nobody-707
      @Nobody-707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +284

      Another headcanon: Mycenaean Dionysus dies, reborns as Orphic Dionysus and calms down into Hellenistic Dionysus.
      Fits the whole death/rebirth as well as explaining diluted wine

    • @spacebunny9116
      @spacebunny9116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@Nobody-707 makes sense

    • @redqueen772
      @redqueen772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      @@Nobody-707 More head cannon Mycenaean Dionysus dies becomes Orphic Dionysus he dies and becomes Bacchus Dionysus who calms down to Hellenistic Dionysus for reasons above and a bit more specific

    • @zagreustheannoying3075
      @zagreustheannoying3075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      The Hellenistic Dionysus drank too much and forgot he was connected with madness and rebirth

  • @firstcooommment3675
    @firstcooommment3675 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3337

    "Alexander The Pretty Alright", that has to be the best comparable name ever.

    • @ghostcraft9343
      @ghostcraft9343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      If you think that is good watch blue’s video on him

    • @Cati_Offical
      @Cati_Offical 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I like to watch it as well

    • @ghostcraft9343
      @ghostcraft9343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Cattery no last name given it’s great I don’t believe he ever reuses a name

    • @enchantedporkloin2658
      @enchantedporkloin2658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I know I laughed my ass off, I do ever time hear it,😂😂 also love her choice of music

    • @Phoenix-dp5cc
      @Phoenix-dp5cc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is Alexander the great not the pretty alright in history

  • @jetstreamjackie3437
    @jetstreamjackie3437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7586

    Ancient Mycenaean texts: “Zagreus, highest among the gods”
    Supergiant Games: *write that down, write that down!*

    • @lewisconroy6225
      @lewisconroy6225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +342

      Doctor Who Writers: *takes all of the hallucinogenic drugs* ZAGREUSSITSINSIDEYOURHEADZAGREUSLIVESAMONGSTTHEDEADZAGREUSSEESYOUINYOURBEDANDEATSYOUWHENYOURESLEEPING

    • @pzz6367
      @pzz6367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +680

      no wonder Zagreus and Dionysus get along well in the game. They're pretty much the same person.

    • @ignitedrowlets5776
      @ignitedrowlets5776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +514

      holy crap, that prank that the two of them pulled on Orpheus had some truth to it?!

    • @ShadyDax
      @ShadyDax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +261

      @@ignitedrowlets5776 that's the reference, yes

    • @pyrosianheir
      @pyrosianheir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +153

      Right? Honestly, I'd play the heck out of that sequel, where instead of working with the Olympians to escape the Underworld, Zagreus is working with a slightly different set (say, remove Zeus and Poseiden; add Persephone and Apollo?) to take Zeus' throne. It'd be so cool.

  • @mandalorethemaximum1408
    @mandalorethemaximum1408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1327

    Athena: Welcome to the Esoteric Birth Club! We got Aphrodite!
    Dionysus: Uh...where's everyone else?
    Athena: They were born the old fashioned way.

    • @dwell7315
      @dwell7315 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      I always forget that Aphrodite is part of the club! If they wouldn't get creeped out by and/or fight each other, the Furies, also born of Ouranos' blood (which technically makes them Aphrodite's SISTERS?!?!?!) would be in the club as well

    • @adrianfigueroa6788
      @adrianfigueroa6788 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      If we’re talking gods only then yes that would be good but if we’re including non gods the furies (megeara, Alecto and tisiphone)

    • @puppies3330
      @puppies3330 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      aren’t the furies goddesses of divine punishment?
      +the primordial gods that came from chaos would also be included

    • @adrianfigueroa6788
      @adrianfigueroa6788 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@puppies3330 nah the furies as far as I’m aware are not goddesses since the goddess of divine punishment is nemesis. But the furies also fill that role but live in the house of hades. The only time I could see them being called goddesses is if they’re getting the appallo and Artemis treatment with Helios and Selene

    • @puppies3330
      @puppies3330 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@adrianfigueroa6788 ohhhhhhhh

  • @glowtz
    @glowtz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9850

    Damn, Dionysus aged like fine wine. He progressively kept getting younger than his previous selves

    • @slateoffate9812
      @slateoffate9812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +383

      How fitting.

    • @Pyrotigre2
      @Pyrotigre2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +229

      He pulled a weird Al

    • @alexkeaden2741
      @alexkeaden2741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      He did a Benjamin Button

    • @LordAmerican
      @LordAmerican 4 ปีที่แล้ว +361

      The illustrations made it seem like he went from middle-aged dude, to slightly less middle-aged dude, to edgy teenager, backstepping slightly to introverted millenial, and then finally going back forward to party animal teenager.

    • @katiearbuckle9017
      @katiearbuckle9017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      He's the Doctor lol

  • @bigbadseed7665
    @bigbadseed7665 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11648

    I like to think that Dionysus was raised by all those gods/titans/mortals you mentioned, and they had to keep passing him around because Hera was constantly going door to door looking for him. I picture it like a screwball comedy where he's always just barely ahead of her.

    • @garretthochmuth4522
      @garretthochmuth4522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +688

      as of oct 14th 2019, today...that is my new Greek comedy

    • @dontburstmybubble686
      @dontburstmybubble686 5 ปีที่แล้ว +351

      BigBadSeed I love the headcanon thanks

    • @kottonkandy0962
      @kottonkandy0962 5 ปีที่แล้ว +451

      That’s similar to what I headcanon where the gods pass him along for the week. The fact that Hera would’ve looking for him just makes this even better

    • @booty_hunter4207
      @booty_hunter4207 5 ปีที่แล้ว +357

      He always gets out of the house _just_ as she gets there

    • @maddiesenpainotice9991
      @maddiesenpainotice9991 5 ปีที่แล้ว +297

      Sitcom title:hide the baby

  • @Kimosabes2hot
    @Kimosabes2hot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2972

    Our theater teacher gave us 3 words to remember this guy:
    The God of Sex, Drugs, and Rock n Roll

    • @nunyabisness7055
      @nunyabisness7055 5 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Thats 5

    • @Kimosabes2hot
      @Kimosabes2hot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +482

      @@nunyabisness7055 it was theater, not math

    • @Dean-nq8so
      @Dean-nq8so 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      Your theatre teacher hasn’t even heard of Zeus if he’s the god of sex

    • @pseudonym8667
      @pseudonym8667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@nunyabisness7055 uhh

    • @registheron9752
      @registheron9752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      So Dionysus is Slaanesh. Got it

  • @cheezemonkeyeater
    @cheezemonkeyeater ปีที่แล้ว +3551

    So, fun fact I just learned, apparently Dionysus is associated with the first recorded "He's right behind me, isn't he?" joke in history. In one of the many plays about Dionysus, there's a bit where Dionysus and a friend travel through the underworld and they talk about all the horrible monsters they could encounter. At one point, Dionysus's friend is describing a particularly horrible monster he doesn't want to meet and Dionysus starts acting like he's afraid of something off stage and the friend is like, "Oh, no! Please don't tell me that the monster is just over there now!"

    • @Kelaiah01
      @Kelaiah01 ปีที่แล้ว +152

      Oh my gosh, that is all kinds of hilarious and awesome! What play was that?

    • @cheezemonkeyeater
      @cheezemonkeyeater ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@Kelaiah01 I don't remember. It was referenced in another video I came across, but I don't remember the play's name. I'd have to see if I could find the video again.

    • @Kelaiah01
      @Kelaiah01 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@cheezemonkeyeater Ah, that's too bad. Oh well. Hopefully one of us will find it! :)

    • @cheezemonkeyeater
      @cheezemonkeyeater ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@Kelaiah01 I'm pretty sure the video was specifically about the history of the "He's right behind me" joke.

    • @kidstothestreets9104
      @kidstothestreets9104 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      was the video by TREY the explainer? i think its the play called the frogs by artistophanes?

  • @nicolaheekin4941
    @nicolaheekin4941 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8131

    I kinda like the idea that Dionysus is still a god of death, madness, going to overthrow Zeus, all that stuff, BUT, he's drunk/hungover all the time and all the other Gods/Goddesses conspire to keep him that way because they're terrified of what he might be capable of if he ever sobered up.

    • @mandykalblinger5260
      @mandykalblinger5260 5 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      Nicola Heekin lol

    • @stargazer378
      @stargazer378 5 ปีที่แล้ว +798

      that is now my personal head cannon, thank you for the hilarious image of Athena intentionally getting drunk just so Dionysus stays drunk XD

    • @Janoha17
      @Janoha17 5 ปีที่แล้ว +222

      So both Sanguine and Sheogorath can be seen as being based on him.

    • @loganiushere
      @loganiushere 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      I just created a story in my head based on this idea.

    • @osman-hj1pg
      @osman-hj1pg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thats me

  • @ethanotoroculus1060
    @ethanotoroculus1060 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17527

    "Also, Dionysus was a major cutie."
    Literally every male character you draw is.

    • @robertminnie782
      @robertminnie782 5 ปีที่แล้ว +656

      Can NOT argue that. XD
      Well said, Oculus.

    • @ethanotoroculus1060
      @ethanotoroculus1060 5 ปีที่แล้ว +220

      @@robertminnie782 Thank you very much.

    • @danukil7703
      @danukil7703 5 ปีที่แล้ว +403

      2:10 for anyone interested

    • @BAVR_MAPL_
      @BAVR_MAPL_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Yep

    • @Slow_Internet
      @Slow_Internet 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Ethanotor Oculus exactly what I was thinking

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
    @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8221

    "God of Wine" seems more like an honorary title so that Zeus doesn't have to admit Dionysus is essentially the ultimate town drunk who won't leave.

    • @leonr8255
      @leonr8255 6 ปีที่แล้ว +404

      I personally call him the God of the Vine.

    • @dvklaveren
      @dvklaveren 6 ปีที่แล้ว +734

      Or maybe the request to be called "God of Madness and Evisceration" didn't go over so well.
      Wait, does this make Dionysus the murder hobo god...?

    • @auburnkeyblade2491
      @auburnkeyblade2491 6 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Just Some Guy with a Mustache Holy crap it's you again!

    • @DimitrisGenn
      @DimitrisGenn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Just Some Guy with a Mustache I swear, you always have the best comments

    • @NimhLabs
      @NimhLabs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +167

      +Alderick van Klaveren: I accept Dionysus as the God of Murder Hobos as the most canon of canon here and on ward.

  • @WolfRider2002
    @WolfRider2002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1033

    Fun fact: The game Hades actually acknowledges the connection between Zagreus and Dionysus by making it a joke that Zagreus and Dionysus play on Orpheus

    • @JaelinBezel
      @JaelinBezel ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Confusing the canon

    • @eclipsicalbluestocking1182
      @eclipsicalbluestocking1182 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      It's little references like that that make the game pure gold

  • @classycthulhu8449
    @classycthulhu8449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5521

    I would love to see a modern take on Dionysus that leans more into him being a terrifying god of madness and insanity.

  • @Kelaiah01
    @Kelaiah01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11414

    Hera: "You, sir, are a drunkard."
    Dionysus: "And you, Hera, are unhappily married. But in the morning I'll be sober!"

    • @eugenio5774
      @eugenio5774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +466

      I hate you for planting an image of wiston churchill as a bacchae. I hate you.

    • @kieranh2005
      @kieranh2005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +247

      I know you're imagining him naked in one of those marble frescoes...
      I'll go get the brain bleach.
      And the shot glasses

    • @Kelaiah01
      @Kelaiah01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@eugenio5774 Haha, sorry. XD

    • @Kelaiah01
      @Kelaiah01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      @@kieranh2005 Shot glasses. How appropriate since this is a vid about Dionysus. ;D

    • @cheezemonkeyeater
      @cheezemonkeyeater 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      Ha! No. Dionysus is never sober.

  • @bleepbloop5251
    @bleepbloop5251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4708

    The entire thing about the wine cult likely being as old as wine itself is interesting, but I love how this could be interpreted as the MINUTE that wine is revealed to get people CRAZY drunk they decided "hey, we could make a religion out of this!"
    And thus Dionysus' cult was born

    • @memersnas8684
      @memersnas8684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      Bill Wurtz reference?

    • @eep_eep
      @eep_eep 3 ปีที่แล้ว +183

      @@memersnas8684 the world is a bill wurtz reference, if you think about it

    • @jpan7211
      @jpan7211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      the first ever use of this phrase

    • @supremecalamitas342
      @supremecalamitas342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@eep_eep The universe is a bill wurtz reference, my friend.

    • @drendraleigh4722
      @drendraleigh4722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      When a group of human got intoxicated for the first time, it's probably not hard for them to make something out of a trippy experience?

  • @rowanisntreal
    @rowanisntreal ปีที่แล้ว +862

    i want a show with the three versions of dionysus as roommates. helenic dionysus as happy go lucky party boy, orphic dionysus as chaotic unhinged trickster, and mycenaean dionysus as a vaguely creepy but laid back dude.

    • @yourpalbryan1442
      @yourpalbryan1442 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      That'd be a dope sitcom ngl

    • @cloudbounc3
      @cloudbounc3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Zagreus is their next door neighbor

    • @eric2500
      @eric2500 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Love it. "All My Avatars"

    • @TimeskipCronos
      @TimeskipCronos ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@cloudbounc3I offer: Zagreus is Orphic Dionysus' twin. ~ C

    • @andistansbury4366
      @andistansbury4366 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      The background noises (laugh track and stuff) are a Greek chorus

  • @lilianarokov2066
    @lilianarokov2066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3173

    He’s feeling devious he’s looking glamorous

    • @alexandriaisokay964
      @alexandriaisokay964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +452

      Let's get mischievous, and polyamorous...

    • @luannenoir4453
      @luannenoir4453 4 ปีที่แล้ว +335

      Wine, guys, women, and wonderful vice (I know the line is, Wine and woman and wonderful vices, but I say that version because I am Bisexual, hope that's ok)

    • @hiero-green
      @hiero-green 4 ปีที่แล้ว +202

      @@luannenoir4453 hey, the lyric fits and I'm sure Dionysus would be proud

    • @lumilumi4030
      @lumilumi4030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +188

      Welcom to the cult of Dionysus

    • @Cl0wnAtEDirt
      @Cl0wnAtEDirt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yes

  • @xyzaxy230
    @xyzaxy230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +621

    From terrifying monster to cute party guy...
    Dionysus was just the vampire of ancient times

    • @CJCroen1393
      @CJCroen1393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Holy crap it all makes sense now...

    • @codafett
      @codafett 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is fascinating how his "true self" seemed to always be there, just hidden behimd glamour.

  • @joshuahunt3032
    @joshuahunt3032 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1563

    “Woah, Dionysus, the ‘70’s called, they want to know if they can borrow some of your stash.”
    I imagine you might want to specify which ‘70’s you’re referring to, Dionysus has probably experienced hundreds of 7th decades at this point.

    • @alanepithet2931
      @alanepithet2931 5 ปีที่แล้ว +193

      He probably doesn't remember more than one or two of them, though.

    • @derronmendel9650
      @derronmendel9650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Just 70 AD obviously

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Plot twist: every '70's secretly had a whole drug thing going on.

    • @rossmartinez7377
      @rossmartinez7377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dude Jim Morrison was Dionysus 🤙

    • @LordAmerican
      @LordAmerican 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      8th decades.

  • @Mia-dt3gl
    @Mia-dt3gl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4104

    Another intriguing thing about Dionysus is his relationship with Ariadne. Whether he threatened Theseus to abandon her on Naxos or he just found her after Theseus abandoned her of his own volition (everyone has their own interpretation), one constant with retellings of how they met is that Dionysus absolutely _loved_ this girl. He loved her so much that it appears that this hedonistic god _became monogamous_ when he married her. He loved her so much that when she died (whether it be suicide or murder, again based on interpretation) that he refused to let her stay dead. As in he went to the Underworld basically saying “Eff you, I’m taking my wife home” and just up and left with her. Oh, and he took his mom home with him for good measure too, and had them both turned into goddesses. Pretty heartwarming stuff.

    • @joshc5613
      @joshc5613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +530

      I don't know about the monogamous part, but it definitely says a lot that a god of sexual liberty would get married

    • @PolishAxolotl
      @PolishAxolotl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      My favourite love story from greek mythology 💜🖤🍷

    • @sonofjack6286
      @sonofjack6286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +442

      I don't really think Hades would mind letting his nephew take his girlfriend back with him, or his mom, he's got enough of Zeus's ex-girlfriends to handle in Tartarus.

    • @BeetlejuiceBeetlejuiceJr
      @BeetlejuiceBeetlejuiceJr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +347

      Ah, got to love how the god of partying and insanity treats women better than zeus.

    • @MrCyplixo
      @MrCyplixo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +335

      @@sonofjack6286 Hades do be quite chill. Besides kidnapping/arranging the marriage with Persephone he has consistently proved himself to be one of the most wholesome gods. He stays true to his wife, he does his job, he gives heroes planty of opportunities to save their loved ones and gotta love that according to research, the name of his GIANT THREE HEADED FUCK OFF HELL HOUND translates to Spot.

  • @flynnvoid7694
    @flynnvoid7694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6172

    I love how someone said they like to think Dionysus was raised by a big group of gods. I can just imagine Hades being like "But he's so cute and funny! Can't we keep him for another century?" and Persephone just sighs like "No, Hades. I know he's adorable, but Hera is literally fighting Cerberus as we speak-"

    • @mohammedyousef4005
      @mohammedyousef4005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +337

      I think I'm gonna die from cuteness

    • @Emily12471
      @Emily12471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +326

      Yeah, that makes a lot more since than just one deity raising him, especially since hera was on his tail

    • @brandonporter8509
      @brandonporter8509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +460

      Hades: but he and Zagreus are getting along so well! Look I even got them matching outfits!

    • @mohammedyousef4005
      @mohammedyousef4005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +246

      @@brandonporter8509 persephone:dear he's going to be in danger if he stays here

    • @zanderblankenship3849
      @zanderblankenship3849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +198

      Hermes: Uh, Hera just beat up your dog and is coming for you right now, so, yoink.

  • @DiamondAppendixVODs
    @DiamondAppendixVODs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1368

    Learning that Zagreus isn't an OC and the people behind the game Hades did their homework. The whole death and rebirth associated with Zagreus/Orphic Dionysus works so well in a roguelike

    • @CrownofMischief
      @CrownofMischief 3 ปีที่แล้ว +239

      Plus that whole bit in the game where Dionysus and Zagreus play a prank on Orpheus to make him think they split from the same being really ties it all together in a really fun way

    • @tylercoon1791
      @tylercoon1791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      @@CrownofMischief which is funny that ‘Orphic’ Dionysus/Zagreus was a prank played on Orpheus

    • @scdolence
      @scdolence 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      I literally came here today for this after finding that part in Hades. Blew my mind. Supergiant DOES their homework well, and is a GREAT developer.

    • @picgmr1575
      @picgmr1575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@scdolence DUDE supergiant is amazing. apparently for hades they had forced vacations to combat crunch culture

    • @roxxram9151
      @roxxram9151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Meanwhile this episode explains AT LENGTH the context of the joke. Several layers deep, that humor

  • @quinnsinclair7028
    @quinnsinclair7028 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6391

    This makes me recall this one moment in the Percy Jackson books where Percy says something really antagonistic to Dionysus and the god turns around, there’s purple fire in his eyes and Percy sees visions that make him suddenly remember that Dionysus’ trait as a god of madness is a lot scarier than the trait of grumpy alcoholic that Percy has been envisioning him as for three books.

    • @panicontheargo7034
      @panicontheargo7034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +892

      Mr. D is a pretty scary god. Hell, he had a lot of his “insanity powers” before he became a god! People underestimate him a lot.

    • @isabellehuber2595
      @isabellehuber2595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      Quinn Sinclair lmao yes! I remover that

    • @MiguelSanchezDelVillar
      @MiguelSanchezDelVillar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +246

      I love Mr. D, he is the best olympian in the novels

    • @idongesitusen5764
      @idongesitusen5764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Quinn Sinclair yep, which is why I don't drink!:)

    • @TheYipee14
      @TheYipee14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      That was the best Dionysus moment EVER

  • @connorf1518
    @connorf1518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +680

    Dionysus: *casually turns his kidnappers insane via loud flutes and snakes*
    Also dionysus: "this grape juice is very strong"

  • @samanthamaesoriano9275
    @samanthamaesoriano9275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1599

    "I bet Frigg doesn't need to put up with this.."
    That, Hera, is one of the perks of being married to an absolute nerd

    • @MathasiaJ
      @MathasiaJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +217

      Odin is not just a nerd, he's an *emo* nerd

    • @sjachdecadere8768
      @sjachdecadere8768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      Actually, Odin was just as big a horndog, though he was a BIT more subtle about it...

    • @connorgolden4
      @connorgolden4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Actually he did have lots of kids with others.

    • @arawn1061
      @arawn1061 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@connorgolden4 then again Frigg also slept around. Notably with the other two creator gods, Odins brothers Vile and Ve

    • @nyetloki
      @nyetloki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Open marriage vs cheating

  • @YamishiMizuandDracus
    @YamishiMizuandDracus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1789

    Soooo basically, he's actually not so much a god of drunkenness, and more a god of insanity, connected to wine through... well, the effects of being drunk or high. About right?

    • @thething2723
      @thething2723 5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      So he's cocaine

    • @mendaxMultorum
      @mendaxMultorum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      i mean what is being drunk or high but controlled insanity?

    • @Jake007123
      @Jake007123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@mendaxMultorum Controlled? Ever heard of addiction?

    • @mendaxMultorum
      @mendaxMultorum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Jake007123 i mean feasibly if you had enough resolve you could stop whenever you wanted, it just takes initiating the quitting process

    • @devanskrobarcek2013
      @devanskrobarcek2013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In fact there is a goddess of Drunkeness and is considered dionysus daughter

  • @steelrexer1062
    @steelrexer1062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2030

    I really like the young, volatile god of madness aesthetic he had around the middle of his transformation

    • @Fisinocean
      @Fisinocean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

      If tumblr was there, theyre gonna gurn him into a tumblr sexyman honestly

    • @charredtodeath2205
      @charredtodeath2205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I really do too haaaaaa

    • @cheshirekit1824
      @cheshirekit1824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      SAMEEEE CAN WE PLEASE BRING THAT BACK

    • @m00nj3llyfxsh
      @m00nj3llyfxsh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Fisinocean yes.

    • @Amy_the_Lizard
      @Amy_the_Lizard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same! Best features of both

  • @1.calm.chaos1
    @1.calm.chaos1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2527

    I'm just imagining Dionysus sitting in camp half-blood, drinking diet coke and remembering the good old days where he had a literally insane cult

    • @skillissue707
      @skillissue707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      Haha yes

    • @Grim_Ghost589
      @Grim_Ghost589 ปีที่แล้ว +263

      I’m imagining the campers just watching Dionysus sulk, thinking about the good days when he had horns & a crazed cult. The campers would be one-of-two things: confused or just not caring.

    • @TimeskipCronos
      @TimeskipCronos ปีที่แล้ว +98

      "Had" implies strict past-tense. For some odd reason, I don't think that's entirely right. ~ P

    • @wildcardjoey4776
      @wildcardjoey4776 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      Dionysus: I used to be an eldrich horror, you know

    • @metarcee2483
      @metarcee2483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the diet Coke is mixed with booze. Dionysus is incapable of being sober.

  • @goldendragon7067
    @goldendragon7067 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2188

    Can we just take a moment to admire how beautiful and aesthetically pleasing Orphic Dionysus's design is?

    • @luctlapt6590
      @luctlapt6590 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Gamzee Makara. (audible dot)

    • @Harshworld100
      @Harshworld100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@luctlapt6590 A Homestuck reference! I havent seen one these in ages!

    • @AyubuKK
      @AyubuKK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      PizzaFace12456 Yes. He is.

    • @masterklaw4527
      @masterklaw4527 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I was getting some Dio Brando/ Danny Avidan vibes.

    • @dragnixstar
      @dragnixstar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes.

  • @OcioCamaraMx
    @OcioCamaraMx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4302

    So basically Dionysus grew backwards, from "mature looking" edgy and moody teenager with destructive powers to "young looking" chill and party animal adult with destructive powers.

    • @bobatea7608
      @bobatea7608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

      the destructive powers stayed

    • @mushroomkaat2667
      @mushroomkaat2667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@BREEZYTHAPROF what do you mean at least , cutie Dionysus is way better than edgy Dionysus :3

    • @flameconvoy7424
      @flameconvoy7424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      He’s drunk Benjamin button

    • @jerryeverest7098
      @jerryeverest7098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@flameconvoy7424 i thought this as well. May your day be pleasant, and may you find happiness along your youtubeing path freind!

    • @bluelfsuma
      @bluelfsuma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I mean, every dude looks younger when they shave (y'know, until wrinkles start coming in).

  • @hydromancer4916
    @hydromancer4916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +368

    It's also worth mentioning that Dionysus spared one of the dudes on the boat because he immediately realized he was a god and was trying to get the other crewmen to set him free.

    • @adaritter9597
      @adaritter9597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Emma Utterback Hey I mean he did still kidnap the guy

  • @catherine.marial
    @catherine.marial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +471

    01:21 It's so funny to imagine Dionysus and Athena bonding over the fact that both of them were born from one of Zeus body parts

    • @maxthepaladin2147
      @maxthepaladin2147 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      If we take into account that "'leg wound' is an euphemism" theory, then they both were even born from one of two of Zeus' "heads" xD

    • @Spider-Man_234
      @Spider-Man_234 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Aphrodite’s in that camp, too

  • @calico_queen8976
    @calico_queen8976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7457

    Also, just to add that Dionysus, god of wine, madness and parties still has a more loving and functional marriage than Zeus. 😌

    • @flamebunny6511
      @flamebunny6511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +584

      Doesn’t anyone though 😂

    • @SorowFame
      @SorowFame 3 ปีที่แล้ว +914

      @@flamebunny6511 it’s not exactly a very high bar to pass.

    • @flamebunny6511
      @flamebunny6511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +191

      @@SorowFame nope it isn’t 😂

    • @ghost_fueled_scarecrow
      @ghost_fueled_scarecrow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      Wait who did he marry?

    • @Boss_Isaac
      @Boss_Isaac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +394

      @@ghost_fueled_scarecrow
      Dionysos took as his wife the Cretan princess Ariadne, a daughter of Minos, son of Zeus, and his wife Pasiphaë.

  • @ramenpriest8312
    @ramenpriest8312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4059

    “Alexander the pretty alright”
    I’m fucking dying.

    • @itarry4
      @itarry4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Have you seen their video on Alexander the Great yet. Basically the only Alexander the......... That isn't used is the great.

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      it never gets old ^^

    • @myneighborsnorlax3780
      @myneighborsnorlax3780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      My favorite bit they do

    • @ojutay8375
      @ojutay8375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@itarry4 well he uses it at the end of the video

    • @picklehanma8029
      @picklehanma8029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      As soon and red said that i read your comment and i was like *WOOOAAAHHH* thats was cool

  • @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
    @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6196

    "Turns men into Dolphins"
    You know.... after hearing how bad dolphins can be, I'm not surprised the Greeks thought this.

    • @gaelstrarai
      @gaelstrarai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      I was looking for this comment!

    • @SpinSurgery
      @SpinSurgery 2 ปีที่แล้ว +296

      Dolphins are some pretty, umm, “handsy” (“flippersy”?)characters from what I’ve heard!

    • @greenbeets0
      @greenbeets0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +243

      plus dolphin brains are terrifyingly close to human ones

    • @watercraver
      @watercraver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      I hate dolphins.

    • @ethanotoroculus1060
      @ethanotoroculus1060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +237

      It's as I've always said; Cetaceans are probably among the only animals on earth able to both fully comprehend what evil is and willingly choose to act on it anyways.

  • @TheGreaterDane
    @TheGreaterDane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +750

    One of my favorite Dionysus quotes is from PJO, when he tries to pour himself a glass of wine but it turns into water mid-pour, as an effect of his exile from Olympus to CHB. He says “y’know, the Christians have a guy that can do this in reverse. Now THATS A god!”

    • @keolas6916
      @keolas6916 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      Pretty sure that's just the movie, but still a great line.

    • @Feu_Ghost
      @Feu_Ghost ปีที่แล้ว +29

      My headcanon : That was his son

    • @SCP_Wandsman13_13
      @SCP_Wandsman13_13 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      We do not talk about those movies

    • @timothywilcox1539
      @timothywilcox1539 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@keolas6916 The one good thing to come from those movies.

    • @DrZuluGaming
      @DrZuluGaming 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      When your character is played by Stanley Tucci, you know that he's gonna be that good part of an otherwise bad movie.

  • @firebrand723
    @firebrand723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1850

    Persephone’s reactions are priceless, also hades geeking out over being a new dad is adorable

    • @mohammedyousef4005
      @mohammedyousef4005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Fun fact hades actually had a few daughters

    • @breadonatuesday9520
      @breadonatuesday9520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@mohammedyousef4005 yes! Meganoë and Macaria are really the only confirmed ones though.

    • @mohammedyousef4005
      @mohammedyousef4005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@breadonatuesday9520 melinoe* also the furies are his daughters in certain versions

    • @breadonatuesday9520
      @breadonatuesday9520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@mohammedyousef4005 your correction is slightly incorrect depending on where you read it. In some sources it’s Meganöe and in others Melinoe. However your add on about the furies is accurate.
      Just thought I would mention it form one Greek mythology need to (presumably) another!

    • @mohammedyousef4005
      @mohammedyousef4005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@breadonatuesday9520 thanks man

  • @CallMeStrega
    @CallMeStrega 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2425

    Is it just me or are the older versions of Dionysus with horns, madness power and underworld connection a lot cooler than drunk, party-animal Dionysus

    • @mohammedyousef4005
      @mohammedyousef4005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +214

      I mean he still has the madness connection it's just not as important

    • @lemmetalkaboutthis
      @lemmetalkaboutthis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      .... Ye

    • @sexyramen9504
      @sexyramen9504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

      I work with dionysus, he is definately really interesting because he really does switch between the two way too often
      Like one moment he will be alll hyper and giddy then next thing I know he is like getting into some really dark shit and talking about insanity and whatnot and I just sit there like "👁👄👁 you amaze me in the greatest of ways sir"

    • @keithhagen7571
      @keithhagen7571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      I purpose the reason dionysus gets drunk, is to hold back the madness

    • @ussinussinongawd516
      @ussinussinongawd516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@keithhagen7571 the madness comes from being drunj

  • @irishscottish5451
    @irishscottish5451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +805

    Dionysus born from Zeus leg
    Athena: Welcome to the club baby bro

    • @StergiosMekras
      @StergiosMekras 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      "leg"

    • @sarahstevens4931
      @sarahstevens4931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      I imagined she’s his designated driver when he goes out partying

    • @EvilRaccoonDM
      @EvilRaccoonDM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@sarahstevens4931 cause she doesnt get drunk as a god of wisdom

    • @Thorne-In-Your-Side
      @Thorne-In-Your-Side 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hm? I was always taught Athena was born from Zeus' head, being a literal "brain-child."

    • @averysemidecent2870
      @averysemidecent2870 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i HiD hIm In mY lEg- Zeus, king of the gods

  • @nyxie2877
    @nyxie2877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7082

    The cult of Dionysus was especially known for feeling devious, looking glamorous, getting mischievous, and polyamorous.

    • @Alusnovalotus
      @Alusnovalotus ปีที่แล้ว +284

      So he can MC gay pride then. 🏳️‍🌈

    • @menhera758
      @menhera758 ปีที่แล้ว +419

      I was so sad that red didnt do that song at the end

    • @SirSaintRipper
      @SirSaintRipper ปีที่แล้ว +467

      With wine and women and wonderful vices

    • @Grim_Ghost589
      @Grim_Ghost589 ปีที่แล้ว +341

      Welcome to the cult of Dionysus 🎶

    • @fntthesmth423
      @fntthesmth423 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Unfortunately I cannot like this comment, because it currently has 69 likes

  • @Jessie_Helms
    @Jessie_Helms 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1470

    SCP Foundation:
    “Oh man there’s no canon it’s sooo cool and unique!”
    Greek Theologians:
    “Hold my wine.”

    • @lordoftheducks332
      @lordoftheducks332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Merc at Arms this is a very underrated comment

    • @Silverwind87
      @Silverwind87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      A _lot_ of the SCP Foundation was inspired by mythology and Lovecraftian fiction.

    • @samuelarnold9653
      @samuelarnold9653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      (Claping)

    • @CJCroen1393
      @CJCroen1393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vocaloid: We did that too, btw.

  • @jillyrs
    @jillyrs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1218

    9:35
    "Hey in order to become an actual cult you need a God to worship"
    "Screw you we'll use this guy"
    "Who is that?"
    "Lol idk some death God or smth"

    • @kristiankepley5944
      @kristiankepley5944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Seems legit

    • @cybernurgle6413
      @cybernurgle6413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      They just got so drunk they picked up a madness god along the way and didn't realize it till later

    • @coltonwilliams4153
      @coltonwilliams4153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@cybernurgle6413 Wine Cult: Who are you?
      Mad God: Ah, don’t mind me. I was just passing through and saw you guys partying last night. Thought I’d join. Now… *snaps fingers and makes more wine appear* how about more wine?
      Wine Cult: You must be our god! WOOHOO!

  • @rubyamateurtactician4354
    @rubyamateurtactician4354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1097

    "Alexander the Pretty Alright"
    I see Blue's refusal to refer to him as his most common moniker extends to Red as well

    • @wayneigoe6722
      @wayneigoe6722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I just call him by his name from Fate/Zero... Iskandar, King of Conquerors!

    • @Jm96RoCk
      @Jm96RoCk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Alexander The Meh

    • @stupiderandunnecessarier
      @stupiderandunnecessarier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Alexander the pretty not bad ngl

    • @bobthegamingtaco6073
      @bobthegamingtaco6073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stupiderandunnecessarier Alexander the dunked on

    • @likmattress
      @likmattress 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alexander the Amateur Tactitian

  • @bretterry8356
    @bretterry8356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    "Closing Time" is actually PERFECT for Dionysus because although it's ostensibly a song about drunk people leaving a bar, it's actually a metaphor for birth. Lines such as "time for you to go out to the places you will be from," and "every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end," imply that the bar patrons are children going out into the real world for the first time.

  • @kottonkandy0962
    @kottonkandy0962 5 ปีที่แล้ว +390

    I’d like to think that Dionysus was raised from being fostered by Rea, Hermes, AND Persephone + Hades because he’s a good husband. Persephone gets him from Monday-Wednesday, Hermes gets him for the rest of the weekdays and Rea takes him in for the weekend. Having godly connections would be lit as your local illegitimate child.

    • @rhys2275
      @rhys2275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      really don’t like being referred to as ‘it’ but ok

    • @ericzouu
      @ericzouu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think Hermes would raise him because he was raised secretly too.

  • @benlewis5312
    @benlewis5312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2148

    Some of the wines drunk by the Cult of Dionysus are also theorized to have been mixed with hallucinogens. Considering most users of heavy hallucinogens have a “death and rebirth” experience, this might help explain Dionysus’s connection with rebirth

    • @fangsabre
      @fangsabre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      I swear to God if it's the anumita muscaria mushrooms again I'm going to send a note to my college professor and ask if he can get me some. Cuz like EVERY single god damn time I get to an odd new religious practice around possible life and rebirth it's the SAME FUCKING MUSHROOM.
      Ex: the waters of everlasting life is drinking the urine of someone who ate the shrooms. Gets you not quite as high but you don't feel like you're gonna die first

    • @violettbellerose1173
      @violettbellerose1173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      I can't believe the parallels Jesus and Dionysus have, out of all the gods, smh

    • @atomicfusion8027
      @atomicfusion8027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      @@fangsabre I've been told that this was practiced by Shamans, who would eat mushrooms, have a terrible trip, then the rest of the village would drink their piss after it had been through a liver and have a much better trip. My biggest questions with this is *who in the hell worked this out and why were they drinking Shaman piss??*

    • @fangsabre
      @fangsabre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@atomicfusion8027 they were probably already high.

    • @user-ys5yv2nz6w
      @user-ys5yv2nz6w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@violettbellerose1173 Can you list any more parallels between them? I've found them to be a very similar pair of deities too

  • @taralucent1219
    @taralucent1219 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2389

    "Orphic Dionysus is the son of Persephone and Zeus"
    Throws up in mouth.

    • @garretthochmuth4522
      @garretthochmuth4522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      same

    • @jxmus3
      @jxmus3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      Heh heh... Zeus f’ed his daughter...

    • @pastorTracy911
      @pastorTracy911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Baby._.Sister._\ Cali *vomits*

    • @nyxshadowhawk
      @nyxshadowhawk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      I mean... Hades is her uncle.

    • @taralucent1219
      @taralucent1219 5 ปีที่แล้ว +331

      @@nyxshadowhawk I'm kinda use to the whole incest thing in mythology. It's just that a relationship between a parent and a direct child is still pretty hard to stomach.

  • @selenopheria
    @selenopheria 2 ปีที่แล้ว +569

    I feel like this should make Zagreus and Dionysus total bros. I feel like that's a promising friendship, the extreme extrovert who loves partying and the quiet kid who doesn't know how to handle gatherings larger than just him and his parents and also their trusty dog Spot.

    • @foureyesisafish7968
      @foureyesisafish7968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Have you played Hades?

    • @selenopheria
      @selenopheria 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@foureyesisafish7968 No, why?

    • @ForrestFox626
      @ForrestFox626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@selenopheria If you play Hades, you'll see you aren't wrong

    • @selenopheria
      @selenopheria 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@ForrestFox626 Really?? Aww man that's so cool.

    • @sillygoosetaur
      @sillygoosetaur ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@selenopheria there’s this thing called trial of the gods where you have to chose between gods and the other one gets mad at you and if you dont choose dio hes like “zag man.. i thought we were buddies :(“

  • @nz7677
    @nz7677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3096

    Hera: “I bet Frigg doesn’t need to put up with this!”
    Frigg: “Why do you think Odin is called the ALL-FATHER?!”

    • @Silverwind87
      @Silverwind87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +373

      Also, I'm pretty sure every Æsir has a blood alcohol content of 99.999% at all times.

    • @Amy_the_Lizard
      @Amy_the_Lizard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +300

      I mean, to be fair, I'm pretty sure Zeus's affair count is a lot higher than Odin's, and I don't think Odin ever hung Frigg off a tree because she made him mad (did hang himself off a tree though...)

    • @mandalorethemaximum1408
      @mandalorethemaximum1408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +209

      Parvati: You think that's bad? SHIVA KILLED MY SON!!!
      Isis: Your husbands are still alive?
      (But for real, I can't believe Red hasn't done a video on Ganesha)

    • @redjirachi1
      @redjirachi1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      @@mandalorethemaximum1408 I wanna see the god-queens of mythologies have a woman's night out and hang out

    • @mandalorethemaximum1408
      @mandalorethemaximum1408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@redjirachi1 That'd be hilarious

  • @Runic_Raptor_Art
    @Runic_Raptor_Art 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2690

    Hellenized Dionysus: Adorable babbu; must protect. Desire to cuddle.
    Orphic Dionysus: Hot damn, take me now. 10/10 would let do horrible things to me

    • @dcelement3959
      @dcelement3959 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Hellfire Studios - Demonwolf37 first yes second n o

    • @fancy4663
      @fancy4663 5 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      First yes second Y e s

    • @danukil7703
      @danukil7703 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      6:19

    • @connorcore7008
      @connorcore7008 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Hot damn indeed

    • @birdlisa58
      @birdlisa58 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes. Agreeeeeeeeeeed

  • @andresarancio6696
    @andresarancio6696 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2633

    Holy fricking shiet. So Dionysus used to be a full blown lovecraftian god of madness, death, rebirth and intoxication to ascend to a higher state of existence. And eventually became the cute drunkard boy who would occassionally cause mass chaos and insanity. I didn't expect this, wow.

    • @ilmisteriosofranceseradene7548
      @ilmisteriosofranceseradene7548 6 ปีที่แล้ว +204

      New favourite God spotted.

    • @pastelhotmess9299
      @pastelhotmess9299 6 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      God of Insanity...I though he was innocent I wasn't expecting him to have so many FORMS!

    • @haeilsey
      @haeilsey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      He goes from super death madness nature dad to Sheogorath to a boy who likes grape juice.

    • @The_Murder_Party
      @The_Murder_Party 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      that pre-Dionysus video sounds amazing...

    • @Hecatonicosachoron
      @Hecatonicosachoron 6 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      The pre-Hellenic view of the underwood was quite different. It was a meadow here the souls of the dead could be care-free or something like that. The asphodel meadow and the Elysian Fields were probably outcrops of this earlier optimistic view of death.
      Wine libations were also common. In the Odyssey, Odysseus prepares the ritual of talking to the dead by making a libation of wine before filling a hole in the ground with a ram's blood. Libation cups are very common finds from Minoan, and also Mycenaean sites and there are also depictions on frescoes from that period (and even in some Egyptian wall paintings was well).

  • @fangsabre
    @fangsabre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +359

    This actually made me appreciate Percy Jackson even MORE. I had always thought of him as Wine first with some cool madness wild cuz parties. It didn't really occur to me that the insanity and vindictive nature came first, then the wine. Which if you read the PJO books, Mr D comes across as a being who's really very spiteful with hints of true and unsettling power, but then it comes back to him not being able to drink anymore.
    It's the difference between "party god is grumpy cuz no party anymore" and "someone who is very capable of being vindictive, brutal, and unpredictable but is mostly just grumpy these days because of the universe's worst hangover"

    • @keaganwheeler-mccann8565
      @keaganwheeler-mccann8565 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It gets even wilder, it is possible that the name Zagreus is a reference to the cult of the Zagros mountains that worshipped the ecstacy of wine.

    • @urbainleverrier1
      @urbainleverrier1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@keaganwheeler-mccann8565didn't the video mention that which turned out to be a complete coincidence, a nothingburger if you will

    • @keaganwheeler-mccann8565
      @keaganwheeler-mccann8565 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@urbainleverrier1 I don't think there is enough evidence to say one way or another. Zagreus and Dionysus share other details than that. Such as the Zeus and Persephone parentage, and the underworld ties.

    • @dwell7315
      @dwell7315 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah I know the books have zero problem leaning into that angle (such as his frequent threats to turn people into dolphins, when he drove Atlas' men crazy in Titan's Curse, etc) but I didn't know until this video how much of his history and personality that actually was. Rick Riordan takes a few liberties with the god's powers and divine domains so I think I just chalked it up to that

  • @nicolasgarcia9416
    @nicolasgarcia9416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1659

    Zeus: has affair with woman
    literally every other god: "oh lord, not again"

    • @StarboyJuno
      @StarboyJuno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      "Oh us, not again"

    • @marithepuppetmasterfazbear7838
      @marithepuppetmasterfazbear7838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Basically Every Olympian sewing Hera plan her next attack: Ah s***, here we go again.

    • @StergiosMekras
      @StergiosMekras 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      ...not just women.

    • @J1nx_exe
      @J1nx_exe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@StergiosMekras not just the women, but the men and the children too!

    • @Silverwind87
      @Silverwind87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@StarboyJuno They'd probably say something like "oh Chaos" or "oh Gaia."

  • @Zack-eq3ou
    @Zack-eq3ou 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13373

    So,basically,he was a good child,went through an emo phase,and is now a hippie? Sweet

    • @rhys2275
      @rhys2275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +218

      megan allen ... yes

    • @dylanchouinard6141
      @dylanchouinard6141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +197

      Mood

    • @zucchinibyday
      @zucchinibyday 4 ปีที่แล้ว +284

      That's a wide ass mood

    • @wylee9
      @wylee9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      that's me honestly

    • @M1CHI.mp3
      @M1CHI.mp3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      megan allen sounds like me lmfao

  • @feyefall4855
    @feyefall4855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +836

    8:12 Ok, but after playing Hades (the game) this picture is even better, because if you give Dionysus enough nectar, he and Zag will convince Orpheus that they're actually the same person as a sort of prank. Only it gets a little out of hand because Zag has been bragging to Orpheus for a while and he believes everything you tell him.

    • @kylenguyen7371
      @kylenguyen7371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      The best part is that it becomes difficult to tell if Orpheus is just that gullible, or if he's playing along with Zagreus as part of their friendship.

    • @Duiker36
      @Duiker36 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      @@kylenguyen7371 Or if it's "it's a good story and I made a cool song so Ima sing it who cares if it's true".

    • @KingsBard
      @KingsBard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@Duiker36 Or maybe it's "I doubted information before and look where it got me"

    • @ametsunami4070
      @ametsunami4070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      It gets better, when you try and tell Orpheus it was a joke, he doesn’t believe it was a joke and only becomes more convinced.

    • @lenoracalamint3114
      @lenoracalamint3114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@ametsunami4070 And that he believes that Zagreus was just that humble but he's just, _"Orpheus, please.............."_

  • @nicholaswhitman4620
    @nicholaswhitman4620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +531

    One more thing I fucking love how you're against painting a "one true' narrative. Its so refreshing and informative. The idea of a bunch of different narratives syncretizing and evolving and branching is so much more interesting anyways dont you think.

  • @tntguardian6455
    @tntguardian6455 6 ปีที่แล้ว +670

    "STOP THAT THIS INSTANT"
    "SHAN'T" this just looks like the perfect drunk response. Don't know why. It just does.

    • @maritomoko4915
      @maritomoko4915 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      This turned out so funny in my head thanks for the chuckle

    • @rellikai945
      @rellikai945 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The fact that I'm currently drunk *right* *the fuck* *now* and I found that part to be absolutely HIGH-LARIOUS only backs this theory up.

  • @myohmy9787
    @myohmy9787 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5335

    I’m feeling devious,
    You’re looking glamorous,
    Let’s get mischievous,
    And polyamorous.
    Wine and women and wonderful vices,
    Welcome to the cult of Dionysus

    • @Remove-x3w
      @Remove-x3w 5 ปีที่แล้ว +268

      Just got into that song. Nice choice.

    • @doodleghost6225
      @doodleghost6225 5 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      I LOVE YOU

    • @alienz8641
      @alienz8641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Damn! Color me impressed!

    • @callmemarie9364
      @callmemarie9364 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      I love this song

    • @wolfiexox7156
      @wolfiexox7156 5 ปีที่แล้ว +161

      I was hoping Red would do this songs for the end card thingy. (You know how she does really good covers at the ends of her videos.)

  • @SirGeoGio13
    @SirGeoGio13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +817

    OSP: "There is no canon, there is only an endlessly deep well of mysteries and fragmented mythology."
    Dionysus: "Sick"

  • @jennifermarks2015
    @jennifermarks2015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +299

    I like to think that if Dionysus' title of God of Madness was more renowned than God of Wine, he might have taken up that scary villain image that Hades was popular for. I mean when you think about him in the Bacchae, he desires his place of worship, makes certain people insane, and has them gruesomely tear his offender apart. And his art of making wine could have also been adapted as the art of chemistry in the area of hallucinogenic drugs. And he did not originally have a place in the Pantheon. He could have been Disney's Hercules' villain rather than Hades.

    • @tylermcneeley3136
      @tylermcneeley3136 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Or Hera, who was the actual villain of Hercules' life

    • @daviddaugherty2816
      @daviddaugherty2816 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      ​@@tylermcneeley3136 That would be great, but then parents would have to explain to their kids why Zeus is Hercules's dad, but Hera isn't his mom.

    • @berengustav7714
      @berengustav7714 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Besides these two,Poseidon is Zeus's rival,and connected to the underworld,The sea is f*cking scary so he would be a villian.

    • @berengustav7714
      @berengustav7714 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Azula from Avatar:The Last Airbender:"The tides have already made up thier mind about ending you,while I'm still mulling it over."

  • @thehopeofeden597
    @thehopeofeden597 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1519

    I like that Red follows Blue's tradition of changing the title of Alexander the Kinda Successful. Also her drawings keep getting better and better!

    • @shami1kemi1
      @shami1kemi1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Well... yeah. **Everything** is better than "the Great".

    • @dr.vikyll7466
      @dr.vikyll7466 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      do you mean Alexander the now dead?

    • @gafeleon9032
      @gafeleon9032 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Alexander the almost quite kinda sorta successful, but not completely

    • @utlor24601
      @utlor24601 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      It did make me smile every time she had changed Alexander the Pretty Alright's title.

    • @7211_
      @7211_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Alexander the not too bad

  • @dragontamer1012
    @dragontamer1012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +952

    Honestly, I love these deeper, darker depictions of these gods, it gives them a more mysterious and truly godlike vibe rather than just being "god of thing"

    • @lordhades8025
      @lordhades8025 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      God of thing that does [insert dumbass decision here] for shits and giggles and gives me the feeling that they are less godlike in the sense that most people nowadays consider but just "meh. I know you're there and I'm slightly worried of you power but whatever'

    • @Kienna23
      @Kienna23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Tbh, god of thing actually sounds like a fun title
      Edit: omg I actually got 10 likes thx guys

    • @dendoesit
      @dendoesit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The transition of Gods through almost every century and still retaining their past characteristics is a really interesting concept. It shows true personalities who have experienced history as a whole, like dionysus seen as a chill and fun party god and still being able to show us how scary powerful he can be with vines, insanity and transforming dudes into dolphins.
      The transition of the gods also makes you question their existence in the real world, as in "they might have been actual crazy powerful beings that originated from the cosmos who change to hide their true origins" self-questioning, and its unique.
      But going back its more obvious that its the people, the worshipers and generally the society back then that change the perspective of gods, esspecially when it happens from a historical impact, like the dark ages, or the bronze age when people were giving shape to these gods.
      Either way its interesting in itself.

  • @MultiNaruto900
    @MultiNaruto900 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1326

    Zeus: The cause of probably the most awkward family reunions in the world of immortals.

    • @mutantmaster1
      @mutantmaster1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      "Raise your hand if Zeus is your father, grandfather, or great grandfather!"
      *75% of Greek and Roman heroes raise their hands*

    • @sflaningam7680
      @sflaningam7680 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@mutantmaster1 Hera: Zeusie, you've got some 'splainin' to do!
      I will keep repeating this wherever relevant until OSP puts it on a t-shirt!

    • @sflaningam7680
      @sflaningam7680 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @Emily Barclay Wouldn't be shocked if I looked at the Olympian family tree and somebody who's his own grandpa on account of Zeus. This is what happens when you can't keep in your pants and swim in your own gene pool.

    • @sflaningam7680
      @sflaningam7680 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @Emily Barclay This is part of why I worship the gods of my Norse ancestors: no incest. If gods are eligible, just marry an attractive giant. Odin's dad, Bor, went that way, and his kids ended up creating the world and humanity, so I'd say he did good.

    • @whoknows7968
      @whoknows7968 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mutantmaster1 for 50% of them it's all of the above

  • @ellagage1256
    @ellagage1256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    I like how HADES not only jokes about Zagreus and Dionysus being the same person, but also establishes the two as different aspects of the myths. Dionysus is just the god of wine but Zagreus is the one who becomes the god of rebirth

  • @DolusVulpes
    @DolusVulpes 6 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    And suddenly Dionysus went from being sort of cool to one of my favorite Greek gods. Excellent video.

  • @confettiveda2460
    @confettiveda2460 5 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    _Anyone else absolutely love when Red describes a character getting mad and we suddenly get a super detailed shot like the one at __2:18__ ?_

  • @Aurora-313
    @Aurora-313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1929

    There's a game called Hades where you play as the God Zagreus, and a hilarious nod to the Zag/Diyonsus lack of continuity where you can actually trick the court musician Orpheus into thinking the two gods were one and the same. Lol

    • @noattendance9801
      @noattendance9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Where can you get it? Tell. Me. Now.

    • @Aurora-313
      @Aurora-313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@noattendance9801 Steam. Its about $25 AUS if I recall correctly.

    • @Sevyvee
      @Sevyvee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@noattendance9801 and switch

    • @khurelbatbayanbat7913
      @khurelbatbayanbat7913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      No Attendance it’s on steam epic and switch

    • @romanejerome168
      @romanejerome168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +172

      It goes even farther than that, Orpheus ends up creating a song about how Zagreb’s fought the Titans and got ripped apart and from his blood Dionysus was born ~ I think that whole affair is the devs’ way of making the whole confusion about Zagreus and Dio cannon in the game’s universe with the origin being those two playing a prank on Orpheus and he took it seriously.

  • @VoidKing666
    @VoidKing666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    I really like the Bacchae Dionysus for some reason. He’s chaotic, powerful, and has horns, but also is young. I also like the madness stuff.

    • @Grim_Ghost589
      @Grim_Ghost589 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Honestly, yeah.
      I think I like him for the same reasons I like Hades & Persephone. They’re cool. They’re scary, sure, but they have functional relationships & some-what likable traits about them. That definitely sets them apart from some of they’re other Pantheon members.

    • @thierryeubanks3586
      @thierryeubanks3586 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes! He’s my fav!

  • @izzy1221
    @izzy1221 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3410

    Ah yes another story where Zeus couldn’t control his little lightning bolt.
    But it did give us a reason to *PARTAY!*

    • @Chiefkid20
      @Chiefkid20 6 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      Ancient Greeks got their unhinged wine orgies, and we got a new Red video. High spirits all around.

    • @Friendlylilfella
      @Friendlylilfella 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Well the God Pan also threw great parties. Why does nobody remember him? I mean he was also had a connection to madness (from fear) and had cool horns.

    • @alinarendon2099
      @alinarendon2099 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Did we all forget Persephone was Zeus' daughter...?

    • @Zuubaru
      @Zuubaru 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Little
      _really?_
      _how does he get the women?? Gods are huge_

    • @Boss_Isaac
      @Boss_Isaac 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      +Alina Rendon
      Its not like Persephone *knew* it was Ol' Dad Thunderbritches. Some interpretations of the story say Zeus disguised himself as Hades in order to lie with Persephone.

  • @lonelysorrows1306
    @lonelysorrows1306 6 ปีที่แล้ว +956

    Daaaaaaaaang, Dionysus has more layers than a onion.

    • @MrDemonWorm
      @MrDemonWorm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Bacchus is love!
      Bacchus is life!

    • @devont.silverninja301
      @devont.silverninja301 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Tomoko Senpai 토모코 선배 some BODY once told me--

    • @david2618
      @david2618 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@devont.silverninja301 The world was gonna roll me.
      But I ain't gonna give a shit.

    • @AuChoco
      @AuChoco 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      *insert Shrek reference here*

    • @demolitionluvers
      @demolitionluvers 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tomoko Senpai 토모코 선배 he is an ogre

  • @Jenna-hg4uh
    @Jenna-hg4uh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2404

    "Dumb War God- Smart War God"
    *Athena is just Ares but with braincells change my mind*

    • @greywalker505
      @greywalker505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +186

      Funny, considering Athena was born from Zeus’ brain.

    • @Janoha17
      @Janoha17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +264

      @@greywalker505 She got all of Zeus' braincells.

    • @gingersummer4005
      @gingersummer4005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      J17 plus her mom’s (who was actually pretty clever)

    • @andrewwang8021
      @andrewwang8021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

      Athena is meant to represent the strategic aspects of war, while Ares embodies the madness of it. Extrapolating from that, he would probably represent sadism, violence, and the all-consuming terror that possesses someone in a life-or-death situation. Athena stands in stark contrast to those things, being a deity of the arts and overlaps in some ways with Hephaestus as embodying technology and the sciences.

    • @greywalker505
      @greywalker505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @@andrewwang8021
      Funny that you mention terror, as two of Ares’ sons were Phobos (god of panic/fear) and Deimos (god of terror/dread).

  • @transcatgirl551
    @transcatgirl551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Things I learned from this video
    1. Zagreus in the game Hades is actually based of something and wasnt made up for the game.
    2. Dionysus' portrayal in PJO is hilarious. It makes sense hes a grumpy old man given that in the series, the gods appearance represents their mental state, but still.

  • @bankruptedwizard1413
    @bankruptedwizard1413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +426

    I like to think sober Dionysus is still that horrifying God of death and mayhem, but he's so hammered all the time that everyone on Olympus just sees him a a drunk party maker. Unwise to his true nature.

    • @ninatrabona4629
      @ninatrabona4629 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a story from the middle east about a goddess who drinks blood and to keep Her from killing everybody the people put red coloring in the beer (invented in the middle east) to fool Her into drinking it, She does and gets drunk and falls asleep, the day is saved.

    • @coltonwilliams4153
      @coltonwilliams4153 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, they know exactly what his true nature is, that’s why they keep him drunk.

    • @Funhaus_Fr34k
      @Funhaus_Fr34k 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      accepting that into my headcanon!

  • @radioheadfanshoshka
    @radioheadfanshoshka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3793

    Okay but is he feeling devious, looking glamorous, and getting mischievous and polyamorous???

    • @anonguy772
      @anonguy772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +332

      @Kyrlics Yes there are - Welcome to the cult of *pause* Dionysus!

    • @CJCroen1393
      @CJCroen1393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +302

      I know this is supposed to be a reference but yes, actually he _is_ all of those things!
      Though in some myths he ditches the “polyamory” part after learning it upsets his wife.

    • @lemon_boii1074
      @lemon_boii1074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@CJCroen1393 gee, who would have thought that infidelity was upsetting (unless you have a cuckold kink in which case I put this here cause I HAVE seen it before)

    • @Aldrnarii
      @Aldrnarii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      @@lemon_boii1074 Polyamory doesn't need to be infidelity if she had agreed to it too

    • @chromatic_fate7114
      @chromatic_fate7114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Me, a Critical Role fan: Mollymauk?

  • @thevoidlord1796
    @thevoidlord1796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +628

    I like that Zeus's one night stands are so common, that, according to this retelling of the story, it is plausibly possible that regular dudes can go around telling hot women that they are Zeus to convince them to bang

    • @redwolf121990
      @redwolf121990 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      Kinda of makes me want to see a myth of some guy who goes out to be a hero and does a bunch of cool stuff because he believes he's the son of Zeus, only for an Olympian to be like "No, dude, your dad just said that to get laid. You've just been INSANELY lucky."

  • @doublex929
    @doublex929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Dionysus is the Greek ‘Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass’ trope which I think is very neat

  • @karrie7993
    @karrie7993 6 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    Hades staring at baby Dionysus in glee and being a Proud Papa™ makes me smile

  • @AnthonyDaFox
    @AnthonyDaFox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1225

    Sheogorath: CHEESE! FOR EVERYONE!
    Dionysus: WINE! FOR EVERYONE!
    they look at each other and hug:

    • @tasya3771
      @tasya3771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I can imagine this cute encounter 😭😭

    • @sixthdragoness
      @sixthdragoness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I ship it

    • @Alusnovalotus
      @Alusnovalotus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      And hence, France was born of this union.
      Vive le vin!
      Et fromage! 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🍷 🧀

    • @missy1286
      @missy1286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      and thus charcuterie was born

    • @greenredblue
      @greenredblue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      "Do _you_ love shredding people too?!"
      _"Do I ever!"_

  • @augustrempelewert4377
    @augustrempelewert4377 5 ปีที่แล้ว +701

    "I should probably just make the Bacchae its own video."
    Yes, please!

    • @chevaliergg9506
      @chevaliergg9506 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yessssss, full score support

    • @burnerdaughter
      @burnerdaughter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Idea for closing song: "Becoming Insane" by Infected Mushroom

    • @keroessa3079
      @keroessa3079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea!!!

    • @code_aerith
      @code_aerith 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes please

    • @IcestormTundra
      @IcestormTundra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      After reading the Bacchae to see what all the fuss was about, OMG YES!

  • @akimitsuu278
    @akimitsuu278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Poesidon became a great example of "boss when you have to fight them" and "boss when they become playable"

  • @airmanon7213
    @airmanon7213 6 ปีที่แล้ว +371

    "I bet Frigg doesn't need to put up with this." - Hera 2018

    • @trungkiennguyen9193
      @trungkiennguyen9193 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Airmanon Frigg is actually the one who sleeps around

    • @StephenHutchison
      @StephenHutchison 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Which version of Frigg are you talking about? Freya, Frigg, Frigga, Fricka ... Snorri took the same goddess name from different languages and turned them into different people.

    • @trungkiennguyen9193
      @trungkiennguyen9193 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was thinking of Frigg from the Poetic Edda

    • @TheBeckening
      @TheBeckening 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      That because everyone is always drunk in Norse mythology...
      Pretty sure their most famous quote is "hold my pint and watch this."

    • @Rhynerd
      @Rhynerd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      only a pint?

  • @angryyogbuscus1578
    @angryyogbuscus1578 5 ปีที่แล้ว +562

    So, eldritch god of death and madness is quietly and surreptitiously integrated into the mainstream Pantheon, mostly because he is fun at parties.

    • @mrrey3481
      @mrrey3481 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I guess thoe two things are kinda connected. Like, you can't even imagine what a crazy shit people can do when they get drunk. Some of it is peaceful, and the other one...Well, I had to clean up the blood from floor after such an incident. So yeah, that makes sense to me

    • @cedricrobertson2893
      @cedricrobertson2893 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Surprice, look what has happen to Nyarlatoteph latelly

    • @snowboundwhale6860
      @snowboundwhale6860 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cedricrobertson2893 would you be referring to Nyarko-chan?

    • @cedricrobertson2893
      @cedricrobertson2893 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@snowboundwhale6860 who else

  • @knate44
    @knate44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3503

    Wait a second, was the "let's pretend Zagreus is secretly Dio to make Orpheus look like a fool" joke in the game Hades supposed to be a reference to the fact Zagreus might actually be synchronus or an aspect of Dionysus?

    • @ericpaul698
      @ericpaul698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +204

      Yes it sure was

    • @jorgegon301
      @jorgegon301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +436

      Not only that, but the song Orpheus writes is about zagreus getting torn apart from the titans, with Zeus saving his heart to ressurect him as dionisus, which is accurate to the myth

    • @jorgegon301
      @jorgegon301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Not only that, but the song Orpheus writes is about zagreus getting torn apart from the titans, with Zeus saving his heart to ressurect him as dionisus, which is accurate to the myth

    • @commercialchase8442
      @commercialchase8442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

      Zagreus literally tells Orpheus that he and Dionysus are the same god to get him to sing. I think Zag also says its his biggest secret and it's never brought up again. This might also explain why the Olympian gods want Zag to join them on Olympus.

    • @WoeUponThee
      @WoeUponThee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      I thought you were talking about Dio from JoJo and got really confused for a second.

  • @BaldricOutremer
    @BaldricOutremer ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I find it strangely tempting to re-interpret Dionysus as a lovecraftian being.
    "Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom."

    • @fangirl38
      @fangirl38 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Honestly, I would read it- 🙏

    • @Green24152
      @Green24152 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      i mean the guy's already got cthonic (underworld) connections
      isn't cthon a super important place in the lovecraft mythos?

    • @Vecchio_Rhosod85
      @Vecchio_Rhosod85 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good idea!

  • @kanamescocoapie4149
    @kanamescocoapie4149 6 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    Does anyone else agree that the way the various Dionysi are drawn makes them look absolutely amazing? Like, serious kudos, Red.

    • @hermescarraro3393
      @hermescarraro3393 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The Orphic Dionysus is Hot as fuck, And the Michenean one is basicaly....horned Jesus....
      I also like them

    • @kanamescocoapie4149
      @kanamescocoapie4149 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hermes Carraro Dibs on Bacchae-Dionysus (Bacchus?). Holy shit.

    • @hermescarraro3393
      @hermescarraro3393 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      KANAME
      Yup.
      Basically Dionysus has gone from being a Hippy to being a misanthropic psychopath first, then being a goth / punk / emo and then becoming a drunken bishy.

    • @henrygutierrez3243
      @henrygutierrez3243 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      KANAME I love it so

    • @books3597
      @books3597 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the drawing style is great

  • @Nerdznewznow
    @Nerdznewznow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3198

    OH MY GOD! So the joke in hades where Zagreus decides to play a prank on Orpheus and says “Don’t tell anyone but Dionysus and I are actually the same person.” And Orpheus responds with “of course! You sound so similar!” Is based off the fact that Zagreus IS Dionysus

    • @Megafreakx3
      @Megafreakx3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +300

      If you go down the rabbit hole, you will find that a zagreus is a hunter who catches living animals (Artemis makes a comment about him being some kind of hunter). And something else to the Ionian word zagre signifies a "pit for the capture of live animals.". So besides those links, we also have Zagreus with Hades, possibly as Hades' son or as Hades himself."So, in the end, we just have different bits of a lot of different versions but with no clear picture of Zagreus ( and this really doesn't help with what Red covers with Dionysus). And somehow, the studio (I think ) makes some kind of reference in one way or another (like how Poseidon called Zag Little Hades)

    • @rangerofthewasteschaoticne6888
      @rangerofthewasteschaoticne6888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Also, they have the same voice actor in game! Orpheus too I believe!

    • @awittypseudonym2520
      @awittypseudonym2520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      @@rangerofthewasteschaoticne6888 Zag and Dio don't share the same VA, however Zag is voiced by Daren Korb who is the voice of skelly, the singing voice of Orpheus, composer and main performer of all of Supergiant's games, and apparently the fastest of the dev staff at the game.

    • @newsystembad
      @newsystembad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@awittypseudonym2520 Darren Korb is such a fuckin' badass. (And Ashley Barrett, too, can't forget her.) I've done some critical listening of each of his soundtracks, and it feels like there's ALWAYS something new to find in them.

    • @ЕвсейОлесь
      @ЕвсейОлесь ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Also if I’m not mistaken, Zagreus told Orpheus that one time Titans ripped his heart and from it was born Dionysus. I believe after it Orpheus tell that they are similar, but it turns out that the joke itself is a reference to this

  • @teaparty6520
    @teaparty6520 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3361

    "what does wine have to do with death and madness??" ummm...... idk how to tell you this.....

    • @Mateo-oq7ui
      @Mateo-oq7ui 6 ปีที่แล้ว +441

      Dionysus, god of alcoholic coma

    • @prizmarvalschi1319
      @prizmarvalschi1319 6 ปีที่แล้ว +198

      When you're drunk you sometimes hallucinate
      Probably
      ...
      ...
      I've never been drunk =w=

    • @Mateo-oq7ui
      @Mateo-oq7ui 6 ปีที่แล้ว +293

      Alan Valschi not really, no, but the Dionysus Cult mixed their wine with funky mushrooms to mix intoxication with weird visual and auditory hallucinations that would probably shorten their lifespan a couple decades.

    • @Magnus833
      @Magnus833 6 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Mateo G. de A. People still do that to this day the so called triping on shrooms

    • @prizmarvalschi1319
      @prizmarvalschi1319 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Mateo G. de A. Hm. That's slightly suspiciously interesting

  • @williamnailen6640
    @williamnailen6640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    Quick note: I'm sure you've heard the phrase "dead drunk." That's the cthonic connection. Blackouts are super scary. And since death=scary, that would be the reason that Dionysus/Zagreus wasn't really so much worshiped as dreaded in early times, so you just didn't talk about it. Or write it down. Still, there's the whole tune in/turn on/drop out thing going on throughout this era, and a bunch of people ignoring social norms and getting together to get drunk and talk about stuff during mystery rites, so I can kind of see "dude, what if Dionysus is actually this, like, really cool guy who gets drunk and parties instead of this super scary god of life, sacrifice and rebirth stuff!" Of course, since the kids are continuing to shake up the status quo, every priest and his brother attempts to quell the cult, but the party doesn't stop, and here we are with Dionysus today.

  • @enhypenment3096
    @enhypenment3096 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2224

    Nobody is goona talk about how DIONYSUS IS A FAITHFUL HUSBAND?? TO ARIADNE?? AFTER UPSETTING HER?? THAT ALL OF THE OFFSPRING HE HAS MAJORITY CAME FROM HER??

    • @ives6622
      @ives6622 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      *majority

    • @ives6622
      @ives6622 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Also he basically kidnapped her from Theseus didn't he

    • @servantprincess3079
      @servantprincess3079 5 ปีที่แล้ว +342

      @@ives6622 Well Theseus basically dumped her and left her behind on an island. I believe that's when Dio meets her; he hears her crying and asks why she's all alone

    • @kiryulover317
      @kiryulover317 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@servantprincess3079 Theseus was told to do that, though! By Athena! Because they stayed the night on that island, and it belonged to Dionysus.

    • @ives6622
      @ives6622 5 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      @@servantprincess3079 While Theseus and Ariadne was sleeping Dionysus whispered in Theseus's ears and said to leave the island now without Ariadne. So Theseus left when she was still sleeping. When Ariadne woke up Dionysus was all like "oh no your boyfriend left you what a douche wanna marry me instead". Not trying to start an argument here but that's just what I read.

  • @sonofjack6286
    @sonofjack6286 5 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    7:14 Hades looks like his heart is melting from the joy of seeing his son.

  • @ceridwenaeradwr8105
    @ceridwenaeradwr8105 5 ปีที่แล้ว +591

    I'm sorry, can we all just take a moment to appreciate the beautifully eerie transition at 13:45?
    Red, your art and animation gets better with every video. I mean, DAMN.

    • @mileskirkpatrick8597
      @mileskirkpatrick8597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ceridwen Aeradwr 250 likes and no comments because everyone agrees

    • @mileskirkpatrick8597
      @mileskirkpatrick8597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wait I ruined it

    • @TheEndangeredBertVert
      @TheEndangeredBertVert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      100% agree and thank you for putting the time of the transition so people like I who want see it over and over can do so

    • @ghostcraft9343
      @ghostcraft9343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ceridwen Aeradwr it is my favorite part of the video

    • @catoticneutral
      @catoticneutral 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's just a fade though?

  • @runningthemeta5570
    @runningthemeta5570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Other Olympians: *having a serious discussion about Olympian stuff*
    Dionysus: *stumbling in drunk and high as hell, while also recovering from a hangover the night before*

  • @QuikVidGuy
    @QuikVidGuy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1998

    "Why did he transition so late?" Oh honey, it happens to the best of us

    • @rhys2275
      @rhys2275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      😔✊

    • @chada4806
      @chada4806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      This is really wholesome. :3

    • @Sweetumskitty1789
      @Sweetumskitty1789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Macaroni and Cliches He was the god of homosexuality so it does make sense for him.

    • @spitfire_saint4428
      @spitfire_saint4428 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This made me picture a dude having sex and not being able to cum, then an hour later while he's asleep just blasts off...

    • @lemonman8654
      @lemonman8654 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@Sweetumskitty1789 I think he was actually the god of transgender people, correct me if I'm wrong please

  • @some-person
    @some-person 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1222

    Does anyone else want Red to make one of these for Hades? He seems pretty interesting, given the whole, "not originally part of the pantheon" thing." And also how he ended up married to Persephone and part of the original children of Kronos and Rhea.

    • @multiplemysteries5242
      @multiplemysteries5242 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Yeah. I feel like there are plenty of interesting gods to touch upon, such as Hecate for instance. The way she started and the way she ended were vastly different.

    • @some-person
      @some-person 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@multiplemysteries5242 That's really interesting! Could you elaborate?

    • @smileyface81mc77
      @smileyface81mc77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Multiple Mysteries Please tell more!

    • @natureisneat8262
      @natureisneat8262 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@multiplemysteries5242 tells meeeee3

    • @thechevyferrari9559
      @thechevyferrari9559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Hey, the Supergiant game "Hades" just came out this week, staring Zagreus as well! Maybe she could do a whole Cthonic breakdown?

  • @dantesdiscoinfernolol
    @dantesdiscoinfernolol 6 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    "Alexander the Pretty Alright"
    That's all I will ever call him now.

    • @leeislosinghermarbles
      @leeislosinghermarbles 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dante's Disco Inferno Imagine saying that in history and the teacher just looking at you in confusion 😂

  • @milkman1818
    @milkman1818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    The fact Dionysus had a femboy phase is probably my absolute favorite detail in all the greek mythology

    • @andrewollmann304
      @andrewollmann304 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Oh, Dionysus had no problem being androgynous. In The Bacchae, Pentheus explicitly mentions the god’s long blond hair that flows down to his shoulders and comments that his figure is “not like that of a wrestler) (this is when Pentheus has taken Dionysus, whom he assumes is just the mortal leader of the Bacchae, prisoner).

    • @TakiariTheDragon
      @TakiariTheDragon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm sorry, but I need some mad *context and explination*