By far, the most intelligent and completely comprehensive explanation of the "keyboard world" I have ever heard. What is telling is the fact that not once does this gentleman play a note. EVERY video on TH-cam, when talking about a keyboard, the presenter will 'press a key' for some reason or the other. Not this guy. No time for it. The intellectually verbal explanation cuts through. Thank you.
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Great advice from a great Maestro of music. Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts in English to a wider audience. Very much appreciated.
Thanks for great advice. I am a korg fan. I own pa3x and Kronos. I am waiting to buy their new flagship arranger keyboard. I hope Korg can use more new technology like Kronos sound engine rather than old triton again. Triton has more than 20 year old.
Great detailed explanation. I am a musician and play little keyboard. Primary instrument is a stringed fretted. I Want to add background support to my band. Thank you for your time in explaining.
Very well explained … better than any other place I looked for the differences and application of these different types of keyboards. Thank you for the video !
No one has explained so clearly and steadily the difference between arranger and workstation and those who, like me, don't have English as their mother tongue, can easily understand what you say, So, I say #INCREDIBLE@ Thank you a ton, Tiho you rock!!!
Best analytic explanation on arranger keyboards. I had a Korg PA800 and although it had many tools and features, the sound quality was bad especially when recording to computer for mixing and mastering. Very low clarity and mediocre or even low for most of the sounds. I know Korg PA4X is a much better instrument but I can't afford it and also I don't want to deal with Korg problems anymore. That's why I am considering Yamaha SX900 arranger. I perform for small crowds only and do home recordings.
Thank you! Very informative. Finally someone who knows what he is talking about. I am a non-professional, but I appreciate receiving information from a professional and not from other non-professionals, who are just guessing other reproducing opinions.
Hi Tihomir, you just made a very good comment about keyboards differences, I agree with you about Korg Pa4X, I never tried Yamaha Genos, but I am very satisfied with the sounds and performance of Korg Pa4X! Thanks for your advice.
This was a great explanation for the difference between the two. In fact, I had always thought pricewise that the comparison was quite the opposite. But I guess if one is discussing 'flagships' such as a Pa4, then yes the arranger is more expensive. Normally even the most expensive Casio arranger ( WK-7600 ) would run only about $450.00 US. There's a limited amount of sound editing that's allowed in arranger. My Casio WK-200 has a synthesizer mode which allows this. This is an excellent discussion. Thanks for posting
I had for some time thought that using an arranger was "cheating." I don't want the keyboard to play itself. I want to be the one playing the keyboard. But you put it in a good perspective the skills and talents that are necessary to use an arranger effectively when performing as a one-man-band. It's somewhat analogous to an experienced pilot landing a 747, many switches and buttons to press at specific times, all the while still manually flying the plane.
Hello Tiho, very good and clear presentation. I agree with you because I also like SD90 very much, I feel very comfortable with it, and the overall sound is richer than Genos, I find Genos sound like Hifi quality and when you are used to Ketron you find Genos too light sound. However if I want to play New Age, or styles with soft drums, strings or pads, with Ketron is very difficult, because all the drums and styles are very punchy. In Ketron I can not find any New Age styles, smooth drums, and Genos has many. Genos also has the articulation sounds for sax and guitars feature which is interesting. So its quite difficult to decide for one of them if you play all kind of music, because they are very different from each other.
As I tole. Every keyboard have some strengths compering to others. There is not a keyboard that has everything the best. That is why I have both of them.
What a great video..What is the best inexpensive way to get a really good hammond Leslie sounds to add to my songs.The best I found are in old Rolands but those are expensive.I have been using studio one but im new to all of this..thank you
But now, things have changed. You have arranger workstations now... the Genos and the keyboards from the PAX line (the PA5X is released) are those kinds of keyboards...
They are still arranger keyboards intended for a one man band in a live setting. But to be honest most people who create backing tracks are more likely to go down the root of a midi controller, a DAW and VST samplers like Halion or Kontakt. Arranger keyboards are certainly not intended for the person who wants to sequence backing tracks from scratch.
Excellent video worth watching🔥🔥👍👍👍 Sir pls make a video on which is the best workstation keyboard for live performing among kronos,montage & fantom....
Superb overview, Tiho! Thanks for such an incisive explanation not just of the differences between arrangers and workstations, but of the strengths and weaknesses of the three primary high-end arrangers. I have one followup question, or rather a request for advice. You mention the Korg PA4X, I'm assuming because its replacement the PA5X had not yet been released. But could you provide your most current thoughts on the PA5X? I ask because it's getting mixed reviews from arranger users/enthusiasts - improvements in sound quality and functionality in some areas, but missing some previous capabilities (e.g. pattern recording and editing) that have yet to be implemented after several updates over a couple of years. I'm wondering if those negative points might factor into your current thinking, to the point that you would advise someone who's particularly interested in the Korg arranger to instead look to acquire a used PA4X?
at this moment there is no roland arranger at top level but i wish they can produce something like G70 with sampler an maximum 15 kg weight than I will be more than happy to have Roland
That is an Italian company and spelling is Ketron but USA pronunciation is not how it originally i Europe. Ketron USA (Ajamsonic) in their video have a different pronunciation that is kind of USA pronunciation but Ketron is not USA product and I think that original pronunciation should be used and should be not changed.
Explanations like these are much needed especially for beginners trying to choose their first keyboard. Thank you for that. Would be great to make a short video explaining the differences between rompler, midi keyboard, synthesizer and how they compare to workstation and arranger keyboard. Also what is your opinion on synthesizers like Waldorf's Quantum and Bowen's Solaris?
Može imati i workstation sada mi nikakve razlike nema pogotovo između kronosa i aranžera recimo pa 4x cak mi je bolji kronos i oba dva se vode kao workstationi pa i korg sa oznakom pa
Svakako da je Kronos bolja, naprednija tehnologija nego PA4 koji se zasniva na Triton tehnologiji. Takodje ulogu igraju i izlazne komponente, zvucnea karta koja je u samom instrumentu. Nego ostaje nam da se nadamo da ce PA5 koristiti tehnologiju Kronosa jer je vec vrijeme da se maknu sa Triton tehnologije u PA seriji.
By far, the most intelligent and completely comprehensive explanation of the "keyboard world" I have ever heard. What is telling is the fact that not once does this gentleman play a note. EVERY video on TH-cam, when talking about a keyboard, the presenter will 'press a key' for some reason or the other. Not this guy. No time for it. The intellectually verbal explanation cuts through. Thank you.
Great advice from a great Maestro of music. Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts in English to a wider audience. Very much appreciated.
My pleasure! Thank you.
I have spent so much time looking for a video like this . Simply excellent.
Great to hear!
Thanks for great advice. I am a korg fan.
I own pa3x and Kronos.
I am waiting to buy their new flagship arranger keyboard. I hope Korg can use more new technology like Kronos sound engine rather than old triton again. Triton has more than 20 year old.
What a technician and what a good explanation! You define exactly the different roles of a device. Thank you for your wise lessons ❤
Great detailed explanation. I am a musician and play little keyboard. Primary instrument is a stringed fretted. I Want to add background support to my band.
Thank you for your time in explaining.
Very well explained … better than any other place I looked for the differences and application of these different types of keyboards. Thank you for the video !
You are welcome!
Wow!!! What a GREAT!!!! video and explanation. This is awesome! Gracias!!
Thank you
No one has explained so clearly and steadily the difference between arranger and workstation and those who, like me, don't have English as their mother tongue, can easily understand what you say, So, I say #INCREDIBLE@
Thank you a ton, Tiho you rock!!!
Thank you
Best video I have ever seen on musical keyboard. Thank u so much
You're very welcome!
Best analytic explanation on arranger keyboards. I had a Korg PA800 and although it had many tools and features, the sound quality was bad especially when recording to computer for mixing and mastering. Very low clarity and mediocre or even low for most of the sounds. I know Korg PA4X is a much better instrument but I can't afford it and also I don't want to deal with Korg problems anymore. That's why I am considering Yamaha SX900 arranger. I perform for small crowds only and do home recordings.
Korg pa800 is made in China. Korg pa4x is made in Italy 🇮🇹
Thank you! Very informative. Finally someone who knows what he is talking about. I am a non-professional, but I appreciate receiving information from a professional and not from other non-professionals, who are just guessing other reproducing opinions.
Tiho thanks a lot for your master class with this. It Is very helpfull for all kind of keyboardists. Is clear and I wil explore Ketron. God Bless you.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Tihomir, you just made a very good comment about keyboards differences, I agree with you about Korg Pa4X, I never tried Yamaha Genos, but I am very satisfied with the sounds and performance of Korg Pa4X! Thanks for your advice.
My pleasure! Korg PA4 is an amazing keyboard.
Thanks to you my friend!
You answered all the questions I couldn't find in a hundred other presentations.
Thank you.
What a wonderful explanation... thank you sir. Well I am a arranger keyboard player.
Most welcome!
Very lucid information thankz..🎉
This was a great explanation for the difference between the two. In fact, I had always thought pricewise that the comparison was quite the opposite. But I guess if one is discussing 'flagships' such as a Pa4, then yes the arranger is more expensive. Normally even the most expensive Casio arranger ( WK-7600 ) would run only about $450.00 US. There's a limited amount of sound editing that's allowed in arranger. My Casio WK-200 has a synthesizer mode which allows this. This is an excellent discussion. Thanks for posting
The best review comparison I have ever seen. Well said and nicely presented
Thank you so much 🙂
Well done! Excellent explanation.
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent explanation wow , 👌
Thanks a lot 😊
Thanks for sharing your knowledge
now I know what I need for my project. and that is an arranger keyboard .
Best of luck!
The best explanation about the two types of key boards. Thanks sir !🙏
Most welcome!
I had for some time thought that using an arranger was "cheating." I don't want the keyboard to play itself. I want to be the one playing the keyboard. But you put it in a good perspective the skills and talents that are necessary to use an arranger effectively when performing as a one-man-band. It's somewhat analogous to an experienced pilot landing a 747, many switches and buttons to press at specific times, all the while still manually flying the plane.
I agree
Well presented. Great info. 👍
Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much - quite useful as I am shopping arrangers now :)
Glad I could help!
Great explanation, Thank you.
You are welcome!
Only today i have come to know the difference between the arranger and working station keyboards. Thank you very much.
You're welcome
BEST BEST BEST BEST VIDEO SIR! 👏👍 GREETINGS FROM AN ONE MAN BAND 🙋♂️ ❤❤
Thanks! 😃
Very true about PA 4X, perfect information 👌
Glad you think so!
Excellent information. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Rockin bro
Hello Tiho, very good and clear presentation. I agree with you because I also like SD90 very much, I feel very comfortable with it, and the overall sound is richer than Genos, I find Genos sound like Hifi quality and when you are used to Ketron you find Genos too light sound. However if I want to play New Age, or styles with soft drums, strings or pads, with Ketron is very difficult, because all the drums and styles are very punchy. In Ketron I can not find any New Age styles, smooth drums, and Genos has many. Genos also has the articulation sounds for sax and guitars feature which is interesting. So its quite difficult to decide for one of them if you play all kind of music, because they are very different from each other.
As I tole. Every keyboard have some strengths compering to others. There is not a keyboard that has everything the best. That is why I have both of them.
Right!
Thanks. Clear and very interesting informations...
Great analytical explanation to cut through the marketing.
Glad it was helpful!
Great explanation.
What's that one you're talking about ? It sounds like Ketron?
What a great video..What is the best inexpensive way to get a really good hammond Leslie sounds to add to my songs.The best I found are in old Rolands but those are expensive.I have been using studio one but im new to all of this..thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Many high end arrangers have lots of workstation capabilities.
Yes but Korg PA is actually a Workstation and Arranger.
But now, things have changed. You have arranger workstations now... the Genos and the keyboards from the PAX line (the PA5X is released) are those kinds of keyboards...
No, nothing is changed.
They are still arranger keyboards intended for a one man band in a live setting. But to be honest most people
who create backing tracks are more likely to go down the root of a midi controller, a DAW and VST samplers
like Halion or Kontakt. Arranger keyboards are certainly not intended for the person who wants to sequence
backing tracks from scratch.
Excellent video worth watching🔥🔥👍👍👍 Sir pls make a video on which is the best workstation keyboard for live performing among kronos,montage & fantom....
Thank you.
If you listen to the video he explains why he wouldn't do that.
Superb overview, Tiho! Thanks for such an incisive explanation not just of the differences between arrangers and workstations, but of the strengths and weaknesses of the three primary high-end arrangers. I have one followup question, or rather a request for advice. You mention the Korg PA4X, I'm assuming because its replacement the PA5X had not yet been released. But could you provide your most current thoughts on the PA5X? I ask because it's getting mixed reviews from arranger users/enthusiasts - improvements in sound quality and functionality in some areas, but missing some previous capabilities (e.g. pattern recording and editing) that have yet to be implemented after several updates over a couple of years. I'm wondering if those negative points might factor into your current thinking, to the point that you would advise someone who's particularly interested in the Korg arranger to instead look to acquire a used PA4X?
Since I will have PA5 next week, I will make a couple of videos on the subject of PA5
@@Tiho2012 Thanks! Really looking forward to hearing what you have to say.
The Pa3x is the same its like a work station and arranger combined.
PA 2, 3, 4 are Arranger workstations but compared to real workstation it is limited scaled down workstation. Not same OS not the same features.
Great Lecture Sir :)
Thank you
Honestly, I thought this guy was Mark Cuban until he started speaking.
Wow all his Mod wheels are on the right side of the keyboard LOL
Just wandering why you don't have any Roland Arranger keyboard. (",)
at this moment there is no roland arranger at top level but i wish they can produce something like G70 with sampler an maximum 15 kg weight than I will be more than happy to have Roland
Gracias amigo
Super sir tq
you are welcome
Are you an instructor? This video Feels like a free college course. Thank you sir.
Tiho thank youuuu so much time i was confused
Can i connect a pa4x to virus ti to edit the sound ? Make it like a synth?
Thank you dear....
How can I contact you tiho ?
facebook
Katron ? He likes that I've never heard of a Carton or Katron how ever you spell it
That is an Italian company and spelling is Ketron but USA pronunciation is not how it originally i Europe. Ketron USA (Ajamsonic) in their video have a different pronunciation that is kind of USA pronunciation but Ketron is not USA product and I think that original pronunciation should be used and should be not changed.
Explanations like these are much needed especially for beginners trying to choose their first keyboard. Thank you for that. Would be great to make a short video explaining the differences between rompler, midi keyboard, synthesizer and how they compare to workstation and arranger keyboard. Also what is your opinion on synthesizers like Waldorf's Quantum and Bowen's Solaris?
Great suggestion!
I own Yamaha MONTAGE 8, and is SYNTHESIZER ONLY!
Is NOT a workstation!
Montage is a Workstation. Montage has sampler. Synthesizer dos not have sampler
So he is only talking about real musicians...no complex musicians allowed. Sorry 3i he isn't talking about you
Može imati i workstation sada mi nikakve razlike nema pogotovo između kronosa i aranžera recimo pa 4x cak mi je bolji kronos i oba dva se vode kao workstationi pa i korg sa oznakom pa
E sad, ne moze pa4x da bude bolji od Kronosa ni u snu, imam obe Klavijature i radim na njima svakog dana, tako da je smesno uporediti pa4x sa Kronosom
Svakako da je Kronos bolja, naprednija tehnologija nego PA4 koji se zasniva na Triton tehnologiji. Takodje ulogu igraju i izlazne komponente, zvucnea karta koja je u samom instrumentu. Nego ostaje nam da se nadamo da ce PA5 koristiti tehnologiju Kronosa jer je vec vrijeme da se maknu sa Triton tehnologije u PA seriji.
@@Tiho2012 ja sam poslusao tebe i kupio Kronosa umesto Juzisound 2 i ne kajem se nimalo
Veliki pozz iz 🇨🇭 Tiho