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- It's been 3 months since I switched from the Bose NC 700 to the Sony WH-1000XM4. Instead of crunching meaningless stats, I share my real world experience on the things I rate or hate.
To save you some time:
0:00 👋 Intro
1:22 💬 Upfront Conclusion
2:19 🎧 Pro: Sound Quality, Noise Cancelling
2:59 😲 Pro: Smart Features
4:38 🛏 Pro: Comfort
5:32 🎤 Con: Microphone Quality
6:16 🥵 Con: Gets Hot After 1hr+ (ish)
MY GEAR:
Sony WH1000-XM4 Headphones: amzn.to/3BgedjL
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Really well structured review, keep it up!
Watching your second video. Really great effort. Keep up the quality of the videos... you are very value-oriented, and the review has great details... Thumbs up again. :)
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this review is underrated af i loved it
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For real! Very good orator and all points practical.
Every review has these comments.
I bought mine today.. and made a couple of calls. The ones receiving the calls, said that the could hear me perfectly. However, I think the XM4 are a bit overrated. Do they sound well? Absolutely… yes. Are they comfortable? Yes. Is the noise canceling feature outstanding? Yes, it is! It’s almost magical. But I personally do not get a pair of headphones for their capability to block external sound or noise, I get them to reproduce sound with pristine precision and exquisiteness… This headphones do not disappoint.. but given their “enormous reputation”, I thought they were going to be a little “better”. Should you get them? Yes.. it’s a great product for sure :) I Apologize for my basic English, it’s not my native language.
how could you say that they are overrated then not say a single bad thing about it
@@winter3410 I think the bad thing he said is that their sound quality isn't exquisite
You don't need to apologize about your English my friend.
It's a world media and you are not obligated to speak and write fluently English.
If someone doesn't like your English skills....well, it will be his problem.
My English is pretty bad,, but I never apologize about it.
Some people from usa doesn't like that....well, they can build a wall around their country or TH-cam.
Nobody will cry about that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
it's 110% guaranteed 😂❗
@@fukia compared to what?
@@krs218 Momentum 4 for 1.
Sound there is best for wireless.
This is some incredible editing super well done video had to sub after watching this keep it up ‼️‼️‼️
Awesome review! I agree, as good as they sound I do find myself wanting to take them off alot. I've got couple of beyerdynamics I use for music production, I never even think about them, wish the Sonys were as comfy.
What a review!!Deymm great job bro👍🏼
Really good review. Nice job.
Overheating ear cup disappointing as I am purchasing over ear headphones for long airplane trips. Thanks for making this video. Very helpful.
Good composition! Long way to go. Stay consistent at it.
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I have never heard that much clear n crisp sound even at high volume sony nailed the competition and the 360 audio which is the future its just so realistic
wdym by 360 audio
great review mate .. subbed... this channel deserves more subscribers
Thanks bro 🙏🏽
Very nice review. Thanks.
Production qualities of this video are top notch.
The problem with touch controls on Sony is that if you go from home or a store to outside with freezing temeratures, your touch controls will go crazy. You have to turn them on only after they cooled a bit, which is annoying.
Such a good review! Worthy of a sub and look forward to more! Bose QC 45 next? Thank you 🙏
Thanks! Check my latest video, I reviewed the QC45s quite recently 😃
@@Safwaan awesome!! Will watch later today :)
Good review thanks I recently bought the XM4’s and find everything great and love the sound quality, apart from I wish they they were a bit smaller (as I must have a small head lol). Plus the heat up like you say, the sides of my head get really sweaty quickly so I find I need to take them off for a bit after not even an hour. Perhaps my small head just isn’t made for overheads 🤦♂️
Lots of competition between Bose, Apple and Sony here. Here’s hoping the next generation of over ear headphones improve on the XM4 standard 🤞🏽
I have the opposite problem. Most of the time when I wear headphones I have to fully extend them to the largest size in order to them to fit around my fat head.
Pros:
- decent build quality and light on the head
- loud enough (at least for me)
- carry box and accessories make complete package
- USB Type C
- both connectors are 3.5mm based
- ANC is really good, even when turned off, the passive noise canceling from the build itself is decent
- overall, they live up to the hype
Cons:
- If you want to hit the sweet LDAC and that audio experience: you need to use Deeszer Hi-Fi or Tidal or if local mp3 - flac/lossless is preferred otherwise you are not using or pushing them to their fullest potential.. So not really the device's fault itself. So average 320kbs won't do. The difference IS really noticeable.
- touch controls gimmicky as any wireless headphones so far
- although well built the hinges are plastic and not mechanical and metal like the ones found in, for example: Sennheiser Momentum 3
- microphone is shit (but if you me don't care, it does the job)
- if you have iDevice you are stuck with ACC or whatever [insert marketing bullshit name] codec Apple are using. No aptX or LDAC for you.
Plastic hinges are definitely not metal but i believe they are still mechanical. I don't think someone is handmaking every xm4 (not sure you know what it means?)... The hinges are great and they don't bend or break.. Metal adds weight.
@@josephgood2704 yes, I worded it wrong. They are plastic and lack the satisfying movement and build of the ones found in Sennheiser's Momentum 3 or Urbanite XL.
It might not be an issue for you, but I think they are inferior to the above mentioned and - the weight you are concerned about is not an issue. If there are XM5 I would not mind if they improve and reinforce the hinge design and also making the cup holders from aluminium and the arch support from textile material that is not prone to cracking like PU leather.
Oh ffs, I’m an android guy who runs Apple. Guess fuck the fruit company…
I also too but the X in force I think they’re the best headsets Bluetooth of ever felt in the sound of the music coming out of room is totally awesome good base to love
Great video, thank you!
Love this now. Using this headphone along with airpods pro is perfect, they’re great pair
Thanks a lot for the review. I believe Microphone is really bad on these headphones as I personally been told by my peers that I am sounding like I am talking from a distance. Also if you connect it with multiple devices the notification about "connected to second device or first device" sounds irritating when it is repeated after every 20 second.
I’m watching this a few days after getting it used for $250 CAD (Labour Day sales go for $400), and upgrading from Beats Studio 3s. Thank you for reaffirming my good decision.
P.S. after seeing your first vid on my go-to app for college, you’re probably the only stranger I’ve ever followed with < 1000 subs at the time. I expect you to pop off in a year. 🚀
Glad the video helped, and thank you for the kind words!
update 2.5.0 is here. it may fix the microphone issue (improve it a bit but there is always hope).
Keep up with the good job.
Great job!
Your so underrated you just got a new subscriber ❤️ do you think these are better then the hyped airpods? And would the xm4 be suitable for use while working out
Woo! Thanks man. XM4s aren’t the best for working out in, they aren’t water or sweat resistant and the ear cups aren’t particularly breathable either. I’ve yet to compare these with the AirPods Max if that’s what you’re asking, that would be a sick matchup
@@Safwaan yeah xm4s may not be sweat resistant, but could I still use them for working out and just wipe them after ? I’ve been using my first version airpods and they have been trouble just with cleaning and sound.
@@Safwaan also for the xm4s apparently they were on sale for way cheaper on Black Friday last year on Amazon, is it best to wait for a sale or it most likely won’t happen?
They’ve been fine to use in the gym as I can wipe them down after. Still wouldn’t recommend it for running though. My preference is to have a cheap wireless in-ear headphone for workouts and having XM4s for everything else. Also, I’ve seen a few offers and sales on XM4s from various retailers (e.g. Amazon refurbished). I have no doubt another will come up - depends how long you wanna wait 🙂
@@Safwaan thank you :) yeah I don’t do much cardio but I’m scared if I bring them to the gym they’ll look weird or not be good but I’ll figure it out.
Nice video..How much in usd or your own money currency?How is Overall Performance/Features/Comfort/Build Quality/App please?Where you bought it please?how many using hours to listening music and watching videos
In you opinion, how to these compare to the Bose QuietComfort 45? Great Video! Thank you!
QC45 is almost identical to the QC35. Because they’re lighter, I find them more comfortable
hey guys, i'd rly like to get these, but thise is the first time ive heard about heat build up on the ears on these. Can you describe how bad it is, id love to war them comfortably for hours...
Great video, thanks. I bought a pair of XM4s last week. I haven't even tried Alexa yet. If I use a cable, will the sound quality be better still (just wondering)? It would be interesting to know. I can't hear my wife sometimes, what else can I say 🙂
Nice! I don’t notice any difference in sound quality with or without cable
Listening to this reviev in my new qc 45 super happy good sound
The ears feeling hot was my major concern for these headphones, since I'm used to always using earbuds. Since you mention that you've used the Bose QuietComfort II a lot, can you comment on how those compare in terms of heat, and general comfort especially if I want to use them 9+ hours a day
I really liked the QC35s a lot. Found them to be the most comfortable out the lot. Didn’t overheat my ears or feel too heavy on the head. Although I will say, there’s always a little heat up to be expected from using over-ear headphones (especially if you’re coming from in-ears)
I really liked the QC35s a lot. Found them to be the most comfortable out the lot. Didn’t overheat my ears or feel too heavy on the head. Although, there’s always a little heat up to be expected from using over-ear headphones for long periods at a time (especially if you’re coming from in-ears)
@@Safwaan How's the Bose 700? Do they heat up? And how would you compare the NC between the 700 to the xm4, and the sound quality between them?
late response, but I had to return mine bc of how hot they got and how warm they made my ears feel
I just bought mine, it's the second week, my first noise cancelling headphones, and even though it cancels almost any noise when at home, I hear a kind of white noise when NC is on, or a static noise.. when listening to calm music at lower volume, or the movie gets quieter, it's noticeable, for example, and kind ruin the moment. Is this normal?? Checking out if I have to return them while I can
As far as I know the low level static noise is normal. It’s the sound of the active noise cancelling and was also present on the Bose QC35, QC45 and NC700.
Great review! But bro... you never tried Senheiser Momentum 3 😋
Let me ask you an app called poweramp. Have you tried its bass on xm4? You will be blown!!! And I really wanted to compare bose 700 and xm4 on that app coz the bass on qc 35 ii which I have. I CAN HONESTLY SAY bose is more comfortable than xm4
Nice review 👍 I tried bose 700 and XM4 at one store and imo bose crushed sony in sound quality. The only thing I didn’t like is that sound was so flat. Does bose 700 have good bass rightnow after the last update?
I don’t have a pair to hand to test
What would you say the most comfortable noise canceling headphones are that you can wear for 10 hours straight without taking off?
QC35 every day of the week. It’s like wearing clouds around your ears ☁️👂
@@Safwaan thanks👍
Reminds me of the Ali Abdaal style video. Did you go to a part time TH-cam academy 🤣 ? Nice vid
Do you think i can use this for the Gym? Just regular tredmil and weight lifting, nothing crazy like CrossFit nor jumping or giving crazy moves.
You could. But I wouldn’t recommend it. These aren’t sweat or water resistant, your ears will get uncomfortably hot very quickly, and sweat degrades the leather ear pads faster over time.
Good review.
You should use earbuds wf-1000xm3 or xm4 or wi-1000xm2 almost as good as the Sony headphones
Interesting!
I have the beats solo pro headphones. The wh1000xm4 are currently on sale for $150 off the regular price. Is it worth selling the solo pros and going for the sonys?
I haven’t tried the Beats! But I know the XM4s have better ANC, longer battery life and I prefer that they fit over-ear rather than on-ear.
@@Safwaan great, thanks man!
as someone that always skimped on headphones- i picked up the cheap skullcandy over ear headphones i bought for my daughter a few years ago and was emmersed in the sound. I cant wait to buy a nice pair like these for the gym, or just being out- I wonder, the other sony 1000XM ear buds that are about same price, do they sounds just as good or different?
It's a game changer. Well worth the investment, even if you're not an audiophile, it's hard to put a price on peace and quiet on demand. I haven't tried the Sony noise cancelling ear buds yet. They look great because they're so much more portable.
I have the wf-1000xm3 ear buds and they are really good. XM4 version should be just as good
I bought these today, so far so good, I hope it's a good investment!
It’s a good way to frame it 😎 they’re really useful!
@@Safwaan Now that I spent whole day with it. I love it! No more hearing neighbours arguing haha! Noise cancelling is just amazing :)
I really can not decide which to get, either the Sony XM4 or the Sennheiser Momentum 3
Any one tried these 2?
hey bro I live at my home and I need to study upwards of 6-7 hours a day so for focus I wanna buy a nc headphone but I don't have a high budget are there any recommendation according to you. Great vid btw
What’s your budget?
@@Safwaan 100 dollars
@@Safwaan it doesn't need to be anc just help me not hear my surroundings
I have a very minor but very noticeable buzzing in the left earphone with the rumbling of music or specially voices, can' t seem to fix it, is this a common issue or do I have a damaged product here?
Mine don’t have that problem. You could look into making a warranty claim.
@@Safwaan Thank you!
Hi, do you tried microphone test after 2.5.0 firmware update? Thanks.
yeah any update?
XM4 has multipoint connevtiviry as claimed by Sony. Could you make it clear what did you mean by saying "With the Sony, you will have to stop sometimes and nudge in the same direction when u have picked up a new device". This could be a deal breaker for me if it cannot connect simultaneously to multiple device.
They’re still multipoint and it works really well! The XM4s can switch between two active devices at once. However, I have multiple active devices (MacBook, iPhone, iPad, work laptop). If I want to use my third device, I sometimes but not always have to re-connect it via Bluetooth or disconnect my second device.
Thank you for those headsup👍
Do they still worth 230€ for everything from all ..work…music…. Very low travelling….just wondering what do you think about them now in mid 2024
Great review but for me comfort matter a lot i tried M3 and the clamping force killed me
Would you say they’re gym friendly? I’m trying to decide between Sony and Bose I need something that’s noise canceling
No for 3 reasons. It gets super hot under the earcups to workout with. Sweat wears the earcups down faster. Plus they aren’t waterproof.
How do you make them louder?? Theyre barely even loud...
How about for watching movies?
For dolby atmos?
is it nice surround sound?
Hey, these don’t support Dolby Atmos, but it has a similar version called Audio 360. It works pretty much the same. The combination of surround sound with noise cancelling really adds to the realism for Netflix and TH-cam.
Plz test with Dolby Access on Window 10 and share the experience
This is what I always wonder about too. Even without atmos which just sound better for movie. I have compared the qc35ii to the sennheiser pxc 550ii. and while the sennheiser have better clarity and wider soundstage for music. The bose have much much better 3d imaging and instrument separation when it comes to watching movies. Along with the punchy base and very sharp drums make it very exciting and immersive. It feels like surround sound, where the Sennheisers sound like boomy stereo in comparison lol.
Awesome!
With the stock eq they are okay but with a few adjustments of the eq they really shine!
100%. Which adjustments do you make to your EQ?
How are cushions after 3months...does they tear or worn or have wrinkles cause i have some wrinkles on mine after 2days
Wrinkles + standard wear and tear marks are expected from use. But I wipe mine down when they get wet, store them in the carrying case and be careful where I put them down - and they still look / feel superb 1 year on.
You are right about call quality I can barely hear myself talking although the person on the other can hear me well. It could have better for a headphone commanding a premium price. Also my voice is not loud and sharp as compared to headset with boom mic.
However the mic noise cancelling is pretty good with very little background noise.
Once glitch I find using these headphones which is not mentioned in your review when you try to swipe up or down to change volume sometimes pauses the music.
Ooooo I don’t have the same glitch you describe. Usually I control my music from the device. Agree with the other points, it’s a premium headphone and is very good at a lot of things, but there’s definitely weaknesses / room for improvement with the smaller, overlooked things like mic quality.
Is there a way to add some microphone and still have them working wireless?
Depends on the device, you can go to the settings and change the input to a wired microphone and the output to wireless headphones
@@Safwaan Yeah, my main usecase is to use it during conf call and walk during the call, I really need to still be wireless
I’m getting the Sony XM4 and Bose QC45 for the same price on Amazon, but I can’t decide which one to get. I really love bass heavy music, which Sony offers, but I’ve seen in many videos that they’re quite uncomfortable, and leave your ears very warm and red, plus because of the bass, the music becomes muddy. They say the QC 45 is much more comfy and has clearer sound, but lacks bass.It also does not have the inaccurate touch sensors like the Sony, which don’t work well in winters . It would be great if you could give some insight . 😃
what did you get?
@@treiscool5254got the bose QC 45, best decision
@@NavdeepSingh-sw2enin stuck in same situation now😅
I brought this headset yesterday and i wanna to know can i use the 20w charging for it ?
It will fast charge automatically as long as you’re using the right adaptor. I use my Apple 87W charger and have no problems.
Perfect video and a good headphone, but I'm not going to buy just because of the weakness of its mic
Does it cause white noise when ANC is on without playing music?
Yes there’s a slight hiss, but I’ve found that to be the case with all the high end ANC headphones anyway. Some are louder than others. XM4s are not too bad, relatively speaking.
Any idea when the xm5 would be available?
No clue
Not sure if i should wait or go for the xm4..
Instant thumb up for agenda at the beginning
Just received my XM4 today. I played with the equalizer settings and put them all to max in custom setting 2. They were not loud enough for me and my Soundcore Q45 sounded louder and clearer than the XM4s. My IEM VXS sounded much better and they only cost $50. And my Airpods Pro M1 Sounded much better. I am returning them.
AirPods Pro M1? The fuck are you talking about
Equaliser is designed to tweak the sound frequencies - not master volume control. Try connecting the headphones to a different device to see if that’s the issue. I haven’t tried the Soundcore Q45s or IEM VXS.
When you equalize but don’t know what you’re doing….
Ok 2:00 the bose 700s do NOT have a seamless transition between devices as I use my TV and phone with headphones at night and the only ones which transitioned smoothly are the Sony XM4s.
Everyone has a different experience
@@Safwaan that's true. The 700s have the better ANC from my experience but the Sony sound is just unbelievably awesome. Good review by the way.
Why does RTINGS rate Bose QC35 ii higher than these as far as sound is concerned ?
They both offer excellent sound quality. Without staring at a graph, there’s not a lot of difference between them. The Sony’s are slightly more bass heavy out the box which I preferred.
Please .can youhelpme
. I love music too much.
Which one is better for music details worthy clear high quality
-Bose 700
- or bose qc45 .. or what is this price
They’re very similar. According to WhatHifi, the Bose 700 has marginally ‘better’ sound. Plus it has an EQ which the QC45s don’t. That said, I prefer the Sony XM4s.
@@Safwaan
Thanks
But Sony xm4 is too expensive
What is you opening about soundcore life Q35. Is it better than bose 700 .
@@Safwaan
What is the meaning of EQ
@@mosa8311 never tried soundcore life before. The QC35 is very good, it’s an older version of the QC45. An EQ means Equaliser which lets you adjust the volume of frequencies (e.g. to add more bass).
do u suggest me to buy this or the bose qc45's for sound quality
I reviewed the QC45s on the channel. Returned them because I preferred the XM4s.
@@Safwaan what about the heating thing tho that seems like somewhat of a major deal breaker to me idk
any idea when the XM5 would be expected?
Not sure, no rumours yet, could be a while
When are the XM5's coming out?
My guess is as good as yours
about that "mask issue".... let's hope we won't need it anymore soon.... :)
Thanks for the video.
Haha yeah man I mentioned it to cover all bases .. but those are my thoughts exactly!
Same thing, the bose fan in me is resisting to exchange the Bose I just ordered after I heard the Sony xm4's but man they sound better than Bose. Period.
I own the bose QC 35 and Sony xm4, i find that my Bose sound better, more spacial, clear bass.
Have you encountered any hissing or crackling sound?
Yes, there’s a slight hissing at low / zero volume
Hi. Where are YOU from, Safwaan?
Do you have crackling issue when set ANC on?
Not so much crackling, but there’s a slight audible hum at low or no volume
@@Safwaan do you think bose 700 is good alternative? I'm worried about the crackling issue
@@MrFikrullah can’t say, you’ll have to try them in store
@@Safwaan thank you man for replying my question
Which is better bose 700 or 1000 xm4? After all the fix and updates
I sold my Bose 700s around 6 months ago, so I wouldn’t be able to make that call
@@Safwaan You mentioned the shallow feel of the XM4 cups and heating up your ears - did that happen with the Bose 700s? Thanks if you're able to reply!
@@GodIsInHisHeaven Bose 700 didn’t have shallow ear cups or overheating problem (at least not in the same way as XM4s, plus some heat up is expected) but it did have a strong clamping force. Some users complain about that, others say it’s no biggie. I actually stretched mine out over an Amazon box overnight which helped a lot.
@@Safwaan you're a rockstar, thanks for the tip. You are the first reviewer to mention the shallow cups and quick overheating on the XM4s :)
How responsive are the touch control?
It’s well balanced. Not too sensitive to slight touches, but still responsive enough to swipes. Apparently the touch controls get a bit funny in very cold conditions / need to be recalibrated.
@@Safwaan Thank you so much for answering!
I often fell to sleep listening music while wearing Bose QC headphones. I need to change brand.
The Sony XM3's are better than the XM4s. The 4 has more features, like auto-pause when you lift a cup off your ear, and junk like that. But Sony managed to ruin the Treble of the XM4s. Which is bad, because they are already heavy on bass. The XM3's are cheaper, get those instead while you can, or if you own XM4s, look into EQ. Using the "bright" setting on the XM3's made it sound better, im sure reddit has ways to make the XM4s sound better.
Gonna really miss my comfy qc35ii but it's time to let them go..need more bass in my life
You know, they make gel cooling earpad replacements, seen em on ebay
Is this headphone comfortable when lying down on bed like sleeping?
Not a fan of sleeping with these or any over ear headphones because I can’t lie on my side 🙂
bro has been using em for 60 years holy
You forgot to mention the beast 30hr battery life of this amazing headphone
How could I forget 🤩
If they had the ear sensor in both ears, it might not pause your music when putting on a mask
I've got a horrific clicking sound in the left ear cup. It's definitely mechanical and not to do with noise cancelling or anything. Have you experienced this? It's driving me crazy!
Ahh I haven’t heard this before
Can it wear for long period with glasses?
I don’t wear glasses so can’t comment on that
Your last "con" is a major flaw. I don't see how these can be so highly rated if they lack comfort.
This is true. It’s a trade off. In my experience, no headphone has it all.
For me, many people have complained when i use for calls. is there a setting that helps with microphone?
Same here. Haven’t found a setting that helps with that 💔 I’m surprised the mic problem isn’t talked about more
@@Safwaan I would not have bought it if I had known about the microphone issues. And there is no update after 2.0.7 (November 2020).
@@Safwaan I am hoping Sony fixes it with a software update but chances are pretty low. I feel so bad because Bose 700 were almost same price when i bought them. I feel like I got tricked by Sony marketing :).
@@mard192837 ooo I forgot to mention when I had the Bose 700s before, it also had a poor mic problem for calls 🤨
@@Safwaan ohh no. have you found any good wireless headphone with good microphone.
I had somewhat better luck with apple powerbeats 4, airpods pro, surface headphones, and airpods 2.
But I have not found any really good one. I was thinking about getting airpods max but not sure its mic is much better. I am hoping if there is a airpods 3 it may have next level mic.
can you compare these to the QC45
I do a high level comparison of these to QC35 and XM4s in this video: th-cam.com/video/_axNn_SMPGc/w-d-xo.html
@@Safwaan thank you
I don't give a fuck about noise cancelling only thing that I looking for is bass and sound cality. So should I buy xm4 or xb901 ?
I haven’t tried XB901
they don't even struggle on MAX VOLUMEEEE like wth are these made out of? magic?
There is a compatibility issue when using the XM4 with Samsung TVs. Occasionally, the audio will stutter and lags a couple of seconds from the video. Seems like it is a known problem since XM4 was launched. The new firmware 2.5.0 did not solve the issue. Sony support says that they are not able help with compatibility issues. Those who will be purchasing the XM4 to pair with Samsung TVs, please take note. Unfortunately, I just bought the XM4 last week with the sole purpose of using it with Netflix on my Samsung TV.
its because xm4 is missed aptX codec, which xm3 had and required by samsung. As I know they didn't want to pay Qualcomm for the license.
what's the update?
I didn't know that Oscar Isaac had a TH-cam channel
Game changer would be elimination of voices as part of the noise cancelling.
😂
B n O hi9 or Dali 04 or 06 . Even focal listen . Way better bt headphones
Yeah the ear cups are really shallow and get hot.