What do you think about the flay build that Rob posted recently? It cleared pit 110 with incredible single target damage and utilizing the crazy multipliers from moonrise to support basic attacks. However when I saw it in action I definitely saw it was lacking for AOE without rend. Maybe there's a way to hybridize the builds but I'm not sure it's possible to scale both rend and flay without sacrificing too much for one or the other
Getting both is definitely not an option imo. As you said, without sacrificing too much. I actually have my own Flay build as I saw someone’s post on Facebook a few days ago :D showing a picture of flay DoT tick. But it is so gear specific, that it will take ages to get gear for. The guy in robs video has monstrous gear, super high rolls, all perfect affixes, masterwork etc. without RMT or people donating gear etc? I think he has like 30 bil items on him 😂
@@LunatalliI built the flay build and it seems much more reliable than I thought. For the pit atleast rupture with rage of harro resetting it is enough aoe. Gear investment is surprisingly not too steep either, though scaling crit particularly high needs some lucky GAs. What I’m tinkering with here is whether to scale crit damage for gushing wounds or vulnerable damage for hemorrhage in the paragon board. I initially went all in on crit damage but someone else experimenting said vuln damage was much more DPS. Another guy also mentioned that shadow necro is double dipping their damage on the damage over time affix, so potentially bleed works that way too. Definitely gonna require some experimentation but I think flay can break into the 120-130 pit range when it’s fully optimized
@@jwl2658 double dipping would definitely help us do more damage, but there isn’t that many stats on the gear, if any, that we could change. Because we are already basically double dipping with vuln (we get an additive and multi in one) and CSD for GW. So we really don’t have much room to go for it apart from the paragon board. Basically you want both vuln and CSD and have them kinda balanced :) the more crit you get, the more CSD gains value, but I would say that 80%-90% Hemo is optimal. So around 700 on vuln for sure, could be a bit more even. Because CSD is only the GW multi, but not an additive to increase base damage
@@Lunatalli thanks for the info, what do you think about the grandfather? Potentially it could be used to boost CSD high without having to invest in CSD tempers to free up tempers/affixes
@@jwl2658 I will have to make a special video about GF, that is a common misconception that it increases our CSD additive stat 😁 it is still an awesome weapon and great in the Rend build as it doesn’t really eat up a slot for aspect, but atm I am testing my flay build (in 115 pit atm) and normal weapon is more damage.
Wow this video was really helpful, helped me correct a bunch of mistakes. Am I leaving a lot of damage on the table by using Crimson two hander instead of Magnum Opus? The pool effect of +30% damage sounded great but now I'm wondering if that was a mistake too 🤔
Hey mate! I am glad it helped you 💪 I am working on a new Rend build for all the Rend lovers around with no more dodge, but just monstrous HP pool to take the hits and some further optimisation ^^ will release it as soon as I have it 😁 ( Basically gonna turn my Flay build into Rend one, make sure to check that one as well ^^ )
It is 😁 has been tested by the world’s #1 barb tester. GF is literally just 100%(x) multiplier when you crit. The additive CSD value in stat sheet is a bug. So if you have 1000% CSD and equip GF, you have 1000% + 35% from 2H sword. So the equation for your damage uses 1035% additive and then when you crit, it doubles the damage due to GF multiplier. But you DO NOT get another 1xxx% additive CSD 😁 that is just a visual bug. Was proven to be this case in S1 and retested every season after.
That sounds exactly like my OG S2 and S3 build 😁 tho of course in S3 we were using both ravenous and starless skies. But this build is made for specific purposes and that is: “I don’t dodge stuff nor am I willing to, but still want to destroy the game” 😂 so losing 16% dodge chance, more if we want to make up for losing resistance loss on chest by placing 2 resistances on pants instead of another 10% dodge OR losing Selig is a big no no for me :D Also ring of starless skies is less damage than ring of the Ravenous, especially for Rupture as it is directly affected by Rend duration, retested on my eternal barb which has both and offers 10% less crit, which is mandatory for gushing wounds. Lunging is used for zerking uptime mostly. I have full vulnerable build with UR ready, but no items for it yet 😁 not much different than my one shot PvP UR build from last ssn. Stay tuned and ty for input! 💪🏻
Cool build, I never see anyone run bleed Barb, especially not this deep into the pit. The only thing I’d say to change is to not speed up your gameplay, but that’s just my preference.
Thanks! 🥰 I usually rupture every 4-5 sec to keep the attack speed buff up and when I see gushing wounds popped and my bleeds went high enough 😁 or on a boss fight I try to use one right before my shouts are back up to get the attack speed and then immediately get the cooldown back thanks to Marshal glyph to rupture a boosted bleed by War Cry 😁
Video ruined with a sped-up dungeon run that has no audio and really annoyingly loud bad (subjective) song on top. Quiet down the song, include in-game audio and make the song a background track, this will improve the video a lot and make your future videos more appealing to a larger audience i believe. Just my opinion of course.
Hey! It’s definitely coming ☺️ I just need to find 2 items to really make it shine. Leap quake is dependent on 2 things: earthquake duration temper on 2hander and, in case of playing Ancients, 31% CDR temper on ring. Then together with Marshal and CDR on ammy and Shako, you have almost no cooldown on it 😱 I will likely make a separate video guide from the planner to explain how it works tho 💪🏻
@@johansvensson4515 unfortunately charge is pretty much dead, yeah. Or more like … we don’t really play Tibault’s Will all that much to make use of it and infinite leaps with Rumble are better as it lets us play normal pants, which are monstrous thanks to 25% dodge chance 😁
Hey mate! 😁 to be honest, I would say Leap. You can play Iron Blood on your helmet to get DR based on bleeding enemies around, and you can benefit from 2 S4 weapons with temper for Earthquake duration. So you can have 300% duration, which is massive and thus have several EQ up at all times for Rumble glyph. You can then also then move earthquake aspect to 2H for 50%(x) while standing in an earthquake. There is actually a lot you can do with it 🥰💪🏻
Hey mate! If you do not have Shako, then for a while, it will work 😁 but Shako is just superior. I would probably even run normal helmet if I did not have Shako 💪
I like playing bash cause its simple. I dont play Diablo 4 for complicated button combos. I play other games for that. This game is nice cause its pretty to look at and lets my caveman brain take a break while still being able to play a game. Idk i guess thats just me though.
I feel like Bash is the same to be honest. I mean .. it has way more AoE so the dragging of mobs as we need to do with Flay ain’t as necessary and Bash is also easier to get working, while flay needs precise and very good gear to work. TLDR: please blizzard, make core skills great again 😂😂
Finally man who loves bleed too) My variant of bleed barb, no rend, no holy bolts, no bugs, potential to 90-100+ pit. Demo 81 pit run today: th-cam.com/video/X-Zs3rVnvuE/w-d-xo.html
It can definitely go higher in damage, with Rend the difference between “random” gear and BiS gear is monstrous. But as you said, it is fun! :D can’t bring myself to play bash or thorns
I love your video! Keep it coming mate!
Cheers!
Cool build! I love your content!!
Thanks! And thank you for the comment
What do you think about the flay build that Rob posted recently? It cleared pit 110 with incredible single target damage and utilizing the crazy multipliers from moonrise to support basic attacks. However when I saw it in action I definitely saw it was lacking for AOE without rend. Maybe there's a way to hybridize the builds but I'm not sure it's possible to scale both rend and flay without sacrificing too much for one or the other
Getting both is definitely not an option imo. As you said, without sacrificing too much.
I actually have my own Flay build as I saw someone’s post on Facebook a few days ago :D showing a picture of flay DoT tick. But it is so gear specific, that it will take ages to get gear for. The guy in robs video has monstrous gear, super high rolls, all perfect affixes, masterwork etc. without RMT or people donating gear etc? I think he has like 30 bil items on him 😂
@@LunatalliI built the flay build and it seems much more reliable than I thought. For the pit atleast rupture with rage of harro resetting it is enough aoe. Gear investment is surprisingly not too steep either, though scaling crit particularly high needs some lucky GAs. What I’m tinkering with here is whether to scale crit damage for gushing wounds or vulnerable damage for hemorrhage in the paragon board. I initially went all in on crit damage but someone else experimenting said vuln damage was much more DPS. Another guy also mentioned that shadow necro is double dipping their damage on the damage over time affix, so potentially bleed works that way too. Definitely gonna require some experimentation but I think flay can break into the 120-130 pit range when it’s fully optimized
@@jwl2658 double dipping would definitely help us do more damage, but there isn’t that many stats on the gear, if any, that we could change. Because we are already basically double dipping with vuln (we get an additive and multi in one) and CSD for GW. So we really don’t have much room to go for it apart from the paragon board.
Basically you want both vuln and CSD and have them kinda balanced :) the more crit you get, the more CSD gains value, but I would say that 80%-90% Hemo is optimal. So around 700 on vuln for sure, could be a bit more even. Because CSD is only the GW multi, but not an additive to increase base damage
@@Lunatalli thanks for the info, what do you think about the grandfather? Potentially it could be used to boost CSD high without having to invest in CSD tempers to free up tempers/affixes
@@jwl2658 I will have to make a special video about GF, that is a common misconception that it increases our CSD additive stat 😁 it is still an awesome weapon and great in the Rend build as it doesn’t really eat up a slot for aspect, but atm I am testing my flay build (in 115 pit atm) and normal weapon is more damage.
Wow this video was really helpful, helped me correct a bunch of mistakes. Am I leaving a lot of damage on the table by using Crimson two hander instead of Magnum Opus? The pool effect of +30% damage sounded great but now I'm wondering if that was a mistake too 🤔
Hey mate! I am glad it helped you 💪 I am working on a new Rend build for all the Rend lovers around with no more dodge, but just monstrous HP pool to take the hits and some further optimisation ^^ will release it as soon as I have it 😁 ( Basically gonna turn my Flay build into Rend one, make sure to check that one as well ^^ )
The increase from grandfather is not a visual bug, that's exactly how it works. it's a multiplier.
It is 😁 has been tested by the world’s #1 barb tester.
GF is literally just 100%(x) multiplier when you crit. The additive CSD value in stat sheet is a bug. So if you have 1000% CSD and equip GF, you have 1000% + 35% from 2H sword. So the equation for your damage uses 1035% additive and then when you crit, it doubles the damage due to GF multiplier. But you DO NOT get another 1xxx% additive CSD 😁 that is just a visual bug. Was proven to be this case in S1 and retested every season after.
Pro tip from pushing higher in pit, use rage of hagorath for chest. You don't need a basic on the skill bar either. Go with unbritilled rage ult.
I also use starless skies instead of your unique ring.
That sounds exactly like my OG S2 and S3 build 😁 tho of course in S3 we were using both ravenous and starless skies.
But this build is made for specific purposes and that is: “I don’t dodge stuff nor am I willing to, but still want to destroy the game” 😂 so losing 16% dodge chance, more if we want to make up for losing resistance loss on chest by placing 2 resistances on pants instead of another 10% dodge OR losing Selig is a big no no for me :D
Also ring of starless skies is less damage than ring of the Ravenous, especially for Rupture as it is directly affected by Rend duration, retested on my eternal barb which has both and offers 10% less crit, which is mandatory for gushing wounds.
Lunging is used for zerking uptime mostly.
I have full vulnerable build with UR ready, but no items for it yet 😁 not much different than my one shot PvP UR build from last ssn. Stay tuned and ty for input! 💪🏻
@Lunatalli ill repect the way you did it but I'm telling you the cooldowns with rage of hagarroth is insane. Shouts back instantly
Back and blasting as always!
Cool build, I never see anyone run bleed Barb, especially not this deep into the pit. The only thing I’d say to change is to not speed up your gameplay, but that’s just my preference.
Thanks for the input! 🥰 will fix that next time haha 💪🏻
Awesome! Thank you for the very informative video. Is there any room for Crimson of Field in this build? I really like the effect.
Thanks for the comment! 🥰 crimson is unfortunately not a good unique, it looks cool as hell, but the damage it provides is just too low 😢
now this was cool. how many times dp u usually rend before rupture?
Thanks! 🥰 I usually rupture every 4-5 sec to keep the attack speed buff up and when I see gushing wounds popped and my bleeds went high enough 😁 or on a boss fight I try to use one right before my shouts are back up to get the attack speed and then immediately get the cooldown back thanks to Marshal glyph to rupture a boosted bleed by War Cry 😁
Amazing video! You just have the best content! I am glad you are back!!
Glad to be back! Thank you for the comment
Video ruined with a sped-up dungeon run that has no audio and really annoyingly loud bad (subjective) song on top. Quiet down the song, include in-game audio and make the song a background track, this will improve the video a lot and make your future videos more appealing to a larger audience i believe. Just my opinion of course.
Totally love the input! That is how you make videos better 💪🏻 so thanks 😁 will fix that next time
I agree
I know the build I'm aiming for here!!!! Amasing content, thank you! Different note, what tracks did you use for the music?
Thanks for the comment! 🥰 I’m glad you like the build and vid 😁 as for the songs .. the first one is Neffex - Fight back. The other .. no idea 😂🙈
Hey what about your leapquake variant? That sounded awesome!
Hey! It’s definitely coming ☺️ I just need to find 2 items to really make it shine. Leap quake is dependent on 2 things: earthquake duration temper on 2hander and, in case of playing Ancients, 31% CDR temper on ring. Then together with Marshal and CDR on ammy and Shako, you have almost no cooldown on it 😱
I will likely make a separate video guide from the planner to explain how it works tho 💪🏻
@@Lunatalli Cool can't wait!
@@LunatalliBy the way, is Charge+Rend completely dead after the nerf to Charge? Really liked that build last season.
@@johansvensson4515 unfortunately charge is pretty much dead, yeah. Or more like … we don’t really play Tibault’s Will all that much to make use of it and infinite leaps with Rumble are better as it lets us play normal pants, which are monstrous thanks to 25% dodge chance 😁
Hello dear rend master, without ubers, is it better to play with leap or with ramaldani as shown here ? Thx !
Hey mate! 😁 to be honest, I would say Leap. You can play Iron Blood on your helmet to get DR based on bleeding enemies around, and you can benefit from 2 S4 weapons with temper for Earthquake duration. So you can have 300% duration, which is massive and thus have several EQ up at all times for Rumble glyph. You can then also then move earthquake aspect to 2H for 50%(x) while standing in an earthquake. There is actually a lot you can do with it 🥰💪🏻
@@Lunatalli Thx a lot, I will aim for your build shown here. Have a nice day !
Hello bro, its nice video, how about using zorit head ??
Hey mate! If you do not have Shako, then for a while, it will work 😁 but Shako is just superior. I would probably even run normal helmet if I did not have Shako 💪
I like playing bash cause its simple. I dont play Diablo 4 for complicated button combos. I play other games for that. This game is nice cause its pretty to look at and lets my caveman brain take a break while still being able to play a game. Idk i guess thats just me though.
I feel like Bash is the same to be honest. I mean .. it has way more AoE so the dragging of mobs as we need to do with Flay ain’t as necessary and Bash is also easier to get working, while flay needs precise and very good gear to work.
TLDR: please blizzard, make core skills great again 😂😂
Finally man who loves bleed too) My variant of bleed barb, no rend, no holy bolts, no bugs, potential to 90-100+ pit. Demo 81 pit run today: th-cam.com/video/X-Zs3rVnvuE/w-d-xo.html
I haven't tried harder pits yet.
Nice man! Flay is definitely cool af. I have a flay build as well, but still collecting gear atm. It is soooooo gear heavy. 🙈
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Underpowered but fun build for sure!
It can definitely go higher in damage, with Rend the difference between “random” gear and BiS gear is monstrous.
But as you said, it is fun! :D can’t bring myself to play bash or thorns