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- While many are already talking about the notion of a shift in power from West to East, a thought-provoking book by author Martin Jacques called When China rules the world takes this even further by proclaiming that China will not only thrive in the 21st century, but will do so at the expense of the United States.
13 years later, and he's right on. All the issues he talked about are now headlines.
MARTIN JACQUES...YOU GOT IT RIGHT!!!! U R REALLY ONE OF VERY FEW WHO TRULY UNDERSTAND THE CHINESE PEOPLE AND ITS HISTORY....I SAW U IN TED...THATS WAS GOOD!
It is too right, see 2020.
Endgame
2020 here😭
2021 here. Scary stuff.
@@whitneysanders1310 2022 here even scarier
It is always a good sign when Americans/westerners become scared. The rise of china and decline of west is unequivocally a positive development
Ahead of his time.
Intelligent man, God bless you!
What's this guy name? Thank you!
scary
Yes China assimilated a lot of different ethnic groups into the country, but the majority of the population has always been Han Chinese throughout history. Both Golden Age Han and Tang Dynasty were also ruled by Han Chinese, it wasn't foreign influence which made China great. Ancient China saw itself as more civilized and often called foreign nations barbaric. It even had a tributary system which involved many foreign nations paying tribute and recognize China as the superior nation.
And what are we seeing now? People need to wake up!
You are cute😍🤤
Only 10% of us are awake
i have woken up to how great china is
China, when unified into an empire in 206 BCE instead of embarking into expansionist policies, it built the Great Wall to defend and protect itself. The last 2,000 years showed that China, being the most powerful and dominant nation (don't even think of Romans, the Romans could not match with the highly advanced armies of Han China), it pursued the peaceful policies of live and let live.
Biggest strength of China is 1 billion people thinking & acting alike. No other country has that. USA, India & EU are all very different states & operate very differently within.
Recently in March, China leader Xi visited France and Germany. The welcome from European countries is a clear indication that China's status and peaceful rise policy is now well received in Europe. In comparison, Japan Abe's trip to Europe is not so welcome. I hope US choose the right working partner to build a better world.
Yea peaceful that China gave the least amount of money when the Philippines had a typhoon.
Yea peaceful that China fought a war with Vietnam. That is peaceful . Tell that to the dead. Now China is telling everyone that the sea belongs to them?
I guess Mao murdered 70 million Chinese so a few more million dead won't make any difference.
LIfe if china is great. I quote,
The woman who nearly died making your iPad
Tian Yu worked more than 12 hours a day, six days a week. She had to skip meals to do overtime. Then she threw herself from a fourth-floor window.
Maybe we won't have any more problems because maybe all the Chinese will jump.
Johnny bizaro you just see how china is bad ,whatever now and furture or past.because you see most of medial see that is ture .so you do not understand china.yes ,we have some questions now,but we have hope .why ?because our life is become better,income is increase,and what ever the goverment and people is changing .so you do not see this ,you just a watcher .some people worked more than 12 hours,but income also add more ,everything if you can pay more and more money,I like worked more than 12 hours I am chinese people.
陈浩志
You think it will get better. Only in hindsight will you know.
我这么认为是有事实依据，你呢，既不是中国人，可能有没在中国呆过几年，二十年前你们就说中国崩溃了，现在呢？我知不知道不需要你这个跟我没一点关系的人来说三道四，历史会证明的!二十年后走着瞧。
@@johnnybizaro1 yea repeating yourself really helpes
We need to stop outsourcing immediately
Too late…our economy would literally fall apart and Biden is making sure of that
This guy knows how hardworking and intelligent Chinese people are, which made all the economics development over the past 30 years. But he’s not aware of the systematical risk an autocratic system could bring to destroy the achievements of the people, which had been proven again and again in the history of China.
U.S?
WuFlu 2021 here
PRC's lucky # is 9. Any significant date or data related to PRC is 9. 30 years is small change, 60 years is big change, that's how we count using ancient Chinese calender. And its Five Element's qi is wood (east), Mao Zedong literally Mao water east.
In 1919, the Chinese people suffered.
In 1949, the Chinese people stood up.
In 1979, the Chinese people becoming rich.
In 2009, the Chinese people took off.
In 2039, the Chinese people is peaceful and content.
In 2069, world harmony.
Ranggath, what you just stated is WHY they will dominate: an isolationist foreign policy only concerned with economic growth.
America is the opposite, it constantly invades other countries at it's expense and constantly wastes it's wealth on welfare and unproductive economic programs.
China should be more vocal in pointing this out to America, but unfortunately China is rather soft-spoken in foreign policy, but this is also to protect itself. Very, very wise.
24 years passed since that interview. Predictions were correct. The most horrible thing what is happening is the shift away from dollar in interhational trade. That spells disaster to US.
the problem of USA is that they are so proud of that they could exercise their so called democracy to elect the incompetent people to be in the key position for the future of the Nation.
That is something which sucks.
That's how ancient China used to think about other nations, I'm not saying I agree with them. But the fact so many nations were willing to pay tribute and obey China is testimony to China's influence and strength in Asia. These nations are called tributaries and China often traded with them, helped these nations get along with each other and even gave military aid when needed. Korea for example was rescued by Ming China from 2 Japanese invasions during the 1500s.
Ancient China was among the most advanced in the world and has been a superpower in Asia a very long time, that is a fact. It's also a fact China used to much ahead of Europe in science, mathematics, engineering and many things which builds our modern civilization, this was even said by many Western historians. Why don't you present some factual evidence to argue with mine instead of keep claiming I don't know much about history? Is it because you can't find any?
Amen brother comrade!
Arthur C Clarke wrote about this. I'm not worried because domination is not important - what's important is to continue humanity.
What is the West? As far as I'm concern it began with the British Colonial empire, which included colonies in Africa, Canada, The North American Colonies, New Zealand, Australia and India . British colonies one by gained independence from the British. Even at the height of the British Empire, Imperial Manchu China had the world's largest economy. British had nothing to trade with China, leading to Opium Wars. US Hegemony was just a fluke of history that lasted less than a century. China's longest dynasties lasted 400 years.
I am not sure if I understand what you mean. The "West" started with Ancient Greece, which produced an impressive amount of science that was shared with the East all the way to India. Then after Greece, there was Rome, and then the Byzantine Empire (which was Greek, not Eastern), and then the rise of Western Europe in the 1400s and beyond. I agree that it wasn't until more recent times that the West had such lopsided power in the world, but you speak as if the West had nothing of substance before the 1600s and that China ruled over everyone before that point. Neither is an accurate point to make, and it is far too commonly repeated by uneducated masses of people who aren't really thinking about what the economic experts mean when saying "China is returning to a place of power".
fc1280
Dynasty? You mean Tyrant rule? That is great pal. You go and live under Kings and queens. Not me. Only a fool wants a king and queen. Read up on Kings and queens pal.
Johnny bizaro british still have kings and queens.
danpt2000
Yes they do and look how the Uk is turning out. It is a Fire sale of assets and economy based on money laundering.
fc1280
China was the producer of Silk, of fine Porcelain, which people to this day still call "Fine China". No matter how the common people around the world argue, officially China has been recognized as the originator of the Magnetic Compass, of Paper (different than Egyptian Papyrus), of Gun powder and of earliest Movable Printing. But lets not even focus on these four innovations.
Lol, the Indian influence is nothing compared to Chinese influence in Asia and also explain why it's not more advanced than Europe? Roman Empire was powerful but it can't match the military might and technological advantage of Han China which existed around the same period. China's navy for example had massive warships called Louchan which can hold 800 troops, it was designed for long range range attacks and had good protection too. The Roman warships are like childrens toys in comparison.
The concept of universal suffrage, also known as general suffrage or common suffrage, consists of the right to vote of all adult citizens, regardless of property ownership, income, race, or ethnicity, subject only to minor exceptions.
Poor people are still very poor. The right to vote is not their priority.
The title is too sensationalized, as the author admits and expounds.
And theyve only begun.....oh well we were DEFINANTLY warned 10 years ago from this bloke.....
Here we are in 2024. Chinese economy is 20% bigger than US in terms of PP. Industrial output is 2.3 bigger than US. And that is the basis of current multipolar world.
What is "the West" these days. The ethnic makeup of Western nations are rapidly changing. The West also need foreign investment to stay afloat in these difficult times, and overseas market to sell their goods and services to when their own citizens are not buying enough.
and here we are...
No can really know what happens in the future, they "say" it is can happen, but we don't know for sure
That is MK ultra anybody that knows about that program will understand it .
The problem is that we don't make many of our own goods here anymore. Go into a Target -- almost everything from pens to furniture to dog toys and even some brands of dog food -- is made in China. Since so many corporations have closed factories and shut down infrastructure here, it's all over there in China so even if we decided all of a sudden that we want to "buy American", there wouldn't be much to buy... and it's way too expensive now for corporations to move factories back to the US.
The Louchan warship from Han dynasty I mentioned which can carry 800 people wasn't an evidence of superior engineering? My so called claims are actually facts which can actually be found in search engines and many books. Yours can be found nowhere cause you're biased and brainwashed to believe Europe was always superior. It's well known historical fact that ancient China was more advanced than Europe so don't try to bs me into thinking I'm wrong. You haven't told me one fact to prove me wrong
@shady110 To start he fought the KMT, He invaded Tibet 1949-50, the Korean Peninsula 1951-1953, Indo-China War of 1962, The Sino-Soviet border conflict 1969. Not to mention, the insanity of the cultural revolution, great leap "forward", land reform, hundred flowers campaign, anti-rightist campaign, etc.
No because they are used to sacrificing and living with much less. That makes them stronger! They are not spoiled like Americans with our 300 types of sugary breakfast cereal and 80 flavors of toothpaste. We are weak. The Chinese will rule us.
@Prfactist
Then reject consumerism, capitalism and materialism.
If you don't change your lifestyle, then you can only blame yourself.
Not sure about that. China can easily go into several traps that will stop their growth for a long time. One is the "low earning trap". Its not easy for them to go over from a low income export economy to a economy where people start spending and earn more. In that periode, they will loose a lot of their export. Another might be a economic situation similar to the japanese with a deflationary situation for decades. It will be interesting.
Looks like that is happening
@privatepinkbits You can ask any philospher in the West or Asia about the Greeks and they will tell you that classical Greece produced some of the most important thinkers in human history. The fact that intellectuals around the world still discuss the implications and ramifications of ancient Greek thinkers is testament to their importance and stature. Other thinkers in the ancient world made important contributions to civilization but the Greeks take a back seat to no one.
what time was the last time for the past 2000 years that China try to take over Japan ? however, they spent 2000 years to build Great Wall, this land (China) is the best place on earth, not cold like Russia, not hot like India, Chinese people are humble people, not aggressive people.
So?????? What does debt have to do with real GDP? China has the world's second largesrt economy in terms of real GDP and PPP and that is a undoubtable fact, at least for now.
it's an era where we don't blow stupid shit into a universal agenda.
All Planned years ago.
@apresesco break my bubble. I guess we will wait and see if it is sustainable. I guarantee you it isn't.
Not GDP. You are talking about PPP.
The US GDP is 15,1 trillion USD, while the chinese is 7,2.
Thats more than twice the size.
Maybe China will overtake the US by 2025, but they will meet a lot of problems. We allready see they are having problems keeping up the growth and are now growing only by building things they dont really need.
But their GDP per capita is still far behind USA or Canada.
CoOl ViD..! 👍
There are not enough resources on the planet to fuel this imagined exponential boom -all world economies are in contraction- and culturally China will be a very difficult export as it's not as seductive to the west as Western pop-culture was and still is. China's society is also extremely hierarchical in structurefar more than the West.
You clearly don't understand the role technology plays in economic growth.
@@magnaviator You obviously don’t understand the limits of magical thinking that tech is the answer.
I remember a while back PBS did a special on black-American soldiers who captured by the Chinese during the Korean War. Those Americas said that they knew they had no business getting involved in Korea since they as black men had no freedoms back home in the US. Some went back to America, and some stayed in China, learned Chinese and lived out the rest of their lives in China with their new families
Wo3 hui shou yidian zhongwen.....
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A Chinese woman cries after learning her child was killed in an attack ... Eleven
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china was heavily influenced by india?!! wtf the two are nothing alike. china is based heavily on Confucianism which focuses on the relationship and responsibilities between people, not a caste system like India. Don't even pretend like you know. My dad is literally a history professor with emphasis on chinese history who teaches CLASSES on this shit.
The Chinese have all means of production. They already are the biggest economy. Its a joke to compare GDP. Believe your eyes
how do chinese feel about koreans?
For your infomartion, the US was just overtaken by China as the largest manufactorer in the world. So the picture of a US not producing anything is wrong.
Btw, China is now depended on high growth and they are building cities empty of people, office building that is empty, etc. ANd local governments has loaned billions just to hit their growth target given by Beijing.
China will meet tons of problems sooner than later.
In a way, u are correct.But u cannot really compare China with US,China has a long continuous civilisation,but US only has 200 over years of history.China obviously is a much more complex ctry than most ctry in the world and its value and system are imbued in the ppl in a very different way. US started off with democracy after its independence and very luckily these values becomes a part of ur life.China do not have such good luck as USA.
I'm not so sure mate, look how they treat their own people ...
Thank Gordon Chang
Can’t make this up.
China is doing well in many ways, but suppression of freedom of speech, massive pollution, government corruption and suppression of resistance, an ignored aids epidemic, and conviction to work camps without trial because of political protest are all signs that China still has a long way to go. Yes, the US and UK aren't perfect, but I sure do enjoy trial by jury, freedom of speech, and the freedom to organize and address my public grievances without government authorization.
a state cannot be a political superpower without also being an economic superpower. China's growth rate at 8% GDP is not only uneven and centralized in the cities, but is also unsustainable. 2.5% is a healthy growth rate. Without serious energy contracts, China's growth rate will become stunted. All currencies are pegged at the US dollar. If that Bretton-Woods system from 1971 collapses, we will go back to the gold standard.
@Myslot2 how are they resisting the order or as you call them Illumianti? please tell me.
@Myslot2 off course...
you dont see the enemy, i see you point.
I`m from Norway- Not the US.
Paper, compass, firepowder and printing press. Thats it? Who did the chinese copy from?
Well, thats not impressing. Btw, whats the relevance?
2021
I would prefer a milder form of socialist state than full on socialist and capitalism. I am from a country that is what you describe and state run capitalism is not working out so well for the citizenry.
thanks for the video
indeed it is ridiculous to see or judge China from the western perspective, and it is foolish to think that somehow the western perspective is the norm, that somehow the western form of individual liberty is the norm and should be applied to the rest of the whole is arrogant
Well, more than 15%, total exports to the US were over 20 % in 2011, same for the EU.China does not have a reliable domestic market. I gess we could by your stuff- I'm from South Korea. But I don't think that wil be enough to make up for the EU and the United States.
I think saying the United States will collapse in the next 5 years is a bit pessimistic. China will play a larger role in world affairs in future, but it will be decades before China has a big enough domestic market to support it.
I mean like NATO nations (US and the Europe) should get karma on what they did in the Middle East.
More innocent people should suffer because of corrupt government, politics and military actions? Ya that makes sense.
@@greenskeeper9883 they should suffer in the west!
so by the 1700's it's empire was already extensive and the even went china (macau for example) and even found australia around 250 years before the british did so individually western countries had already taken over before the 1700's
All of you give it up, regardless of what side you're on. What you want to hope is that everybody wins. The economies are all connected and reliant on eachother now. One goes down, the rest follows. The impact is directly proportional to how big the countrys economy is.
One of the reasons this occurs is due to emotional humans who take sides. Don't oil the machine of arrogance. Your loyalties to your "nations" is misguided.
An even better read is 'China's Global Strategy' by Jenny Clegg, published by Pluto Press.
Man kills 3 children in latest Chinese kindergarten attack
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Aug 5, 2010 ... BEIJING -- A knife-wielding man rampaged through a kindergarten in the eastern city of Zibo, killing three children and possibly a teacher, and ...
Thank you for displaying intelligence in the latter comment. ;) While our education system has gone down the crapper, rest assured there are still alot of articulate Americans who are trying to reverse the trend. Before we can revamp the education system we need to remove some idiots in power and on WallStreet. Fact is the U.S. & Europe are trailing our Eastern counterparts and we will continue to trail until we make major changes for national interests and not selfish individual ones.
I will be happy if one day Chinese is a respectful country. Just see how defensive the Chinese act when anyone says something different from their textbook of Chinese culture. It is the reaction of neither a powerful nor a respectful country.
inferno0020-- Yes, and the west is respectful when its corporations have sent out their greedy tendrils to exploit what have been the traditionally 'colonized' countries: the African nations, South American nations, and China itself. Strange how your myopia stops you from seeing how the last few centuries the west has subjugated so many of the indigenous people of so many parts of the world, partaken in the slave trade (the American blacks is just a small example), exploited China (ie: millions upon millions of one-of-a-kind art objects/artifacts taken/pirated out of China; managed to get 20 million of its citizens hooked on opium during a time in which its was semi-colonized by 7 different outside nations---and you wonder why China is suspicious of so many western nations; etc. etc. etc.). Its the West's industrialized pollution in the past century and a half that pushed the world ozone depletion to the levels that its at ( and yes, China, along with other developing nations, and continued support from the western nations are putting the final nails in our collective coffins, etc. This is just the tip of the iceberg of what the 'Western' nations have offered up to the world. Yes, China has its issues, but from what view point do you judge 'RESPECT'. Nuff said.
Dan Chong
Well done! Good Argument!
@mycatisromeo Climate change has nothing to do with man the climate has changed continuously for millions of years! We will not be fighting over food or water because most people will not be alive only those who have seen this cycle come and go many many times and always survived this is nothing new and I welcome its arrival!
we will always remember the U.S.A for the invention of coca~cola that we all enjoy from all over the world.
@lakumbar the only smart one on this topic i applaud you
The interviewer is rather short sighted .
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Why do these posts always lead to hateful trash talk and stupidity?If China has yet more wisdom to share with the world what's the problem?Our species as a whole has plenty of room for improvement and no right to rest on our record to date whatever our histories!Surely it's time to stop hiding behind out dated and destructive 'masks, and just open our minds and our futures to trying to simply do better for everyone! We are all the same,why is this so hard to embrace and celebrate!
Japan hasn't been the most peaceful of people... Nor is North Korea or the History of China. Mao was a very violent man fighting several wars with several neighbors. It is the human condition to be violent... not just an American or "Western" condition. I also don't agree with the Iraq war. Afghanistan was a justifiable war. No war should be fought into perpetuity which is another problem. Just War Theory is another "Western" invention which addresses many of the problems with war.
NWO
when was that?
I concur, the most amazing thing is that pretty well everything thats happening geopolitically 2day is foretold/predicted in the bible; An example of this is that we ar warned that in the last days the Kings of the east(China is a nation of tribes/kings) shall amass an army numbering 200 million..... In the mid 90's the chairman of china stated if push comes to shove China could field an army of 206 million troops.
Hi 2021
@g4macdad
They accepted the Capitalist policies and loved them while still being communist.
China is poised on demographic cliff just like Japan was in 1990. The one child policy and their massive gains in longevity have completely distored the population. That will play out over the next 10 years in a big way.
Will Hart , There is no such word as distored. What do you mean? Also, the reason the one child policy was implemented is because they like to fuck too much. Fucking creates children -- overpopulation is not cute or pleasant. They don't have a lot of land like countries such as the USA or Australia. It's a very small island by comparison with tons of people on it. Have you ever been to the Far East? I have. In Japan you feel like an ant in a huge colony.... Way too many people.
+BroccoliBeefed ...China doesn't have a lot of land like the countries such as USA? China's land mass is BIGGER than USA dude. China is not an island, China is the third largest country by land mass in the world, after Russia and Canada, ahead of USA, dumb.
U donot know chinese culture. In china culture I trust others for the DAO and DE. DE mean "moral" in english word. In china culture, we trust anyone including even our enemy. I trust you because I have DE and believe you have too. So a famous words is that: we can live peacefully together although we have still different thinking.
why are insisting your order to people we dont need your order.
I agree Ancient Greece was an advanced civilization, whether it matched Han dynasty China is debatable. It would lose military a confrontation against Han China though. You probably know Attila the Hun for conquering Europe and destroying the Romans who were famous for their military. Guess what, there's good evidence to believe the Huns are originally the powerful Xiongnu Empire North of China which was defeated by the Han Chinese. Maybe that'll give you an idea of the might of Han China.
@AhzekAhriman1 Where are you from?
I'm not seeing anything in this post but hate. It's embarrassing
@manchewl Umm, excuse me? UK and China have same average IQ; I would appreciate it if you specify that you are talking about the Half Brain Americans?
@privatepinkbits "just look at who's bigger" well if that isn't a brilliant stament then I don't know what is! As long as China was bigger than Greece then it's intellectual climate must have been better. Good thinking there pinkbits.
There is much that the West can learn from the PRC, some of it relates to ancient China, but most of the lessons come from the post 1949 era. The PRC has made considerable progress in destroying feudal relations.
I am Portuguese and someone who is very much into china and want to live and work there hopefully very soon so I am very pro china but you say the west only took over from the 1700's well I would agree with you in the sense that as a region the west did start to take over around then but individually western countries already had global empires before that. The Portuguese were the first european and therefore western power to establish a global empire when it all started in 1498
Yeah 5 cent clowns !
@Myslot2 nuclear exchange? esplain that?
@Myslot2 you talking about double agents right? so you chinese and live in the UK?
a white chinese?