I really appreciate the bit about the uneven surface. When you are on flat you can tune the rebound placing more weight on the front, the truck actually offer a spring effect as the truck is forced to go straight from your own weight, it is like that distributing your weight you decide how much rebound to have instead of having a spring or a bushing opposing the same force all the time. I would call it "gravity rebound" just to identify it. That's the reason why on an uneven surface it messed up the turning, it isn't because is extremely loose, but it is because the "gravity" rebound force it to turn instead of getting back to the center. ..I never tried it in a bowl (also I'm very basic riding bowls) and I didn't expect it to be so good as when you lose speed on the vert you will have zero "gravity " robound. But you made clear that is not going to be an issue at all. Thanks for testing it hard, I love to see surfskating mixed with other styles. I believe that this is the future of surfkating, it can benefit a lot from other riding style and technologies, as well as other styles can benefit from the surfskating tech and training.
Thanks for his really insightful comment and your thoughts on the future of surfskating! Your channel was one of the first I started watching when I got into surfskating so it means a lot to me! I am going to try to be bold enough to try the 7 foot roll-in again staying front foot heavy as you suggest and see how it goes.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer really? such a small world youtube. Try an angle riser on the big deck to inprove the leaning of the curfboard and use a rkp as back truck, it could become awesome. I never try as I don't have the truck
I put these trucks on an old carver deck that was really stiff(w/some mild concave and rocker) and boom! magic. The mechanism, pivoting off tail with little resistance from forward wheels became enhanced with more direct feedback. It feels amazing with backfoot base and light pressure swinging front foot like surfing. I tried it on a fancy(no name) deck with a lot of flex and it's like the two cancelled each other out. It's been the best setup for a real surf trim feel.
I'm on my third day of using Curfboard trucks (thanks for the discount code!). I have mostly ridden Smoothstar and your comments about the different movement required to drive the curfboard were spot on - and really useful. The bowl I'm riding today is pretty uneven with ruts and rough patches. The trucks get knocked sideways easily, however at anything above very slow speeds they straighten up without causing a problem now that I have got used to the feel of the mini wobble. Lots of fun.
I have a Morning Wood V3 with CX trucks, and I am so tempted to get a set of these. You really sold them well! Thanks for the great review Mark! And thanks for your continued wonderful contributions to our community :)
Fantastic review as always Mark. Incredibly detailed and it's clear you have a solid understanding of what Surfkskaters look for when considering a new type of surfskate system. Keep it up!
Seriously. The amount of tricks you're landing is mind boggling! It's really nice to watch. And off course nice review 😉. One nuance I was considering is that I feel that in surfing some people are 'frontfoot' heavy and they are using the front foot more to generate speed than others. It could be that this influences the way they experience these trucks.
Bought a set of these trucks based on this review. I have used a waterborne up until now, and wanted something that is LOW and LIGHT for dropping in and standard skate tricks. It fits the bill for that, and my setup is significantly faster now too. These are loooooooose! I'm still sketched when dropping in and even though the trucks don't technically jacknife, I have spun out multiple times; weight balance between feet helps prevent this. Low lean angle + tight turning radius = more significant turning with less lean input. This is a very sensitive setup especially at speed (hence my spin outs), tuning is possible with wedge blocks and rear truck tightness, expect to spend some time tinkering. I have conditioned myself to manual over any sharp transitions, and warn anyone that rides the board to do the same. This is a major issue as the board will veer over those transitions and even over compound bowl transitions like hips and depth transitions. Simple bowls are fine, complex bowls take more planning.
Yes, now that winter is over and I am using it more outdoors, I am noticing that veering issue on the more complex parks versus the indoor one I had been using over the winter. You either need to hit the drop straight on or as you said do a little manual. As for dropping in, it is actually less problematic because as soon as you slam the wheels down they go straight. Something that would be good to improve in future iterations.
When you surf you don't lean until you're into the face of the wave or setting heavily off the bottom. The lean on other surfskates while on flat ground leads to bad habits surfing. You don't waggle on a surfboard either, which is a tendency I see a lot of surfskaters do that is bad form on a surfboard. This board's pivot off the tail with uninterrupted motion on the front is exactly like a surfboard. It lets you practice that trimline motion for speed and then you only lean on and into a bank. It's really good for surf training. I just switched off other surfskate brands because of these advantages. If you're trying to get better surfing, some surfskate tendencies can translate to bad form or hangups surfing. Practice smooth steady trimming that project forward, not waggles, and leans on a bank while opening/squaring hips and using front arm as pivot point.
Great video again! I'm unlikely to cheat on my Yow anytime soon, but I love the analysis and sweet skate footage nonetheless! BTW, I know we were talking about wheels before, I highly recommend you try the Seismic Hot Spots for flatland and street (can't comment on park as I suck at that). Super high rebound and roll speed with a predictable slide. Edit: Also, Zenit is sick! I ride one of their boards for DH.
Those Seismics look intriguing for sure, but damn they are sure priced like they are the greatest wheel of all time! Can't find any in Canada so it would likely be at least $120 with exchange, shipping, and customs. Not sure if I'm ready for that gamble.
@@funkytomtom A really generous offer. If you are on IG or Facebook, let me know how to get in touch and I’ll reach out. Maybe we can work out an exchange or something.
Great review Mark as usual, hope you can keep posting awesome videos longer on the TH-cam Chanel, they have work very much to improve my riding, you rock! Regarding the board you put together, what size and model is the Zenit deck you put on this board. I don’t do street skate tricks, I ride the bowl and do a lot of grinds, slides, and starting practicing some front side airs. Do you think this deck could be beneficial for my riding style since it has the double tail?
This is the deck I used: zenitboards.com/products/morning-wood-v3 - Based on your style as described, you don't need a nose with kick, but if you start progressing more with airs especially, it is helpful to have that lift up front to push against when you are levelling your board out after popping off the lip. What I loved about this deck is that it is ultra light, so it maintains close to the weight of the original Wave SE complete, but it still seems very strong so far.
Hey Mark! Thanks for the review! How does this compare to the YOW Meraki boards? Which one would you recommend for practicing turns for surfing on flat ground?
So keep in mind that my perspective can change over time and my riding style isn't the same as everyone but here is how I'd put it: Best All-Around performer 1a) YOW 1b) Smooth star Best Flat Ground specific system: - Swelltech Best Bowl specific system: - Curfboard Best for skateboard style tricks: - Carver CX or C5
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Thanks for the response! I have a globe stubby with revenge II trucks, and I'm not liking it tbh so might give YOW trucks a go. Thanks again!
@@androuil cool I Have the exact same board, it's not a bad board the revenge trucks can be made crazy loose. I modified it with some Cut to size Otang bushing and fat free 80a. Later use it with some Carver CX. But it lacks concave but actually used it for years in skatepark and Bowls and then cruising back home perfect all fits one. Except fast freeride downhill anyway for Nerds.
@@Quickrex Hey man, thanks for taking the time to respond! Can you point me to a guide of how you got yours to be looser? My front truck feels a bit stiff, and I don't have any experience with skateboard trucks!
@@androuil No problem. I bought the stubby like 10 years ago so bushings could have changed since then (probably) the bushing that came with the board is very stiff but the thing with the revenge truck is that it more difficult to find some bushings say like double cones, they are definitely restrictive (no room for high bushings with meat on them). But loosen the kingpin nut so the front truck becomes super loos. The wheels are useless. So get some that have some rebound around 65mm, higher than that and you will be needing risers, here we talking every day use. Go check Surfskate Love her on TH-cam , he explains what works. I like Orangatang fat free and love handles both 65mm and Alva Conical 59mm, 88A for skateparks and bowl they are pretty dame cool and fast too. Priority no 1 loosen the truck until you feel comfortable then some more when you progress. Then over time you can go with carver CX or the YOW Meraki. AliExpress sells both 25-50$. Same thing functionality wise, the quality okay but again not exactly. Dame Chinese copy cat’s. The globe Stubby was for a very long time my go to everything board. So light and nimble yet so fat and stable. Good choice.
That is a great question. I can think of one big advantage: This board provides the looseness of some of the other boards but without the risk of "jackknifing" (when you bottom out the front of the board, usually causing you to go flying). It is also pretty easy to pump. I do wonder if it might feel a bit out of control if learning to ride transition on it and riding at slower speeds - you know how a bike feels more wobbly when it is going slow instead of fast? Not sure if that helps but I'll update when my students get a chance to try it.
Thank you Mark for detailed review. Can you tell me how it feel for regular pushing (for commuting). Is it stable enough if I will just ride by pushing (both foots)? How good it will be if I use LDP pumping style similar I do on GBomb longboard?
This board pumps very easily on the sidewalk because it has less resistance but you can kick push it easily too if you want since it is really low to the ground compared to other surfskates. I don't really have any LDP experience so can't answer your question there and LDP pumping style.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Trying to find out actually. I have one board, an early taylor knox carver. Can't find the specs for it. But it think it will be perfect. As you said the truck feels a bit like a C7.
Regarding bowl riding, aside from weight and lack of king pin, does it beat CX in any other way? I love riding CX in bowls, I’m not at level to grind coping but am improving and curious if there’s a better option. So far I find CX more fun than C7, YOW, Waterborne for this purpose. Is it stable like CX?
If you see stability as a positive, CX or regular skateboard truck would be more stable and maybe a better option for learning. But if you want to progress past learning and into mastering, I found that these hug the walls of the bowl no matter what angle you approach from. You can go straight up the wall and carve back down without kick turning. They are so nimble in tight spaces. They are therefore better at maintaining speed even if you take a bad trajectory. I can’t explain why, but my flow in the bowl with these trucks just feels effortless. I wouldn’t have believed it until I tried it.
It never happened! On a flat surface they always straighten out. So dropping in and landing airs they always return to centre. It was only here. I am now using this board on rough cobble streets and it is fine as well so it doesn't seem to be that big of an issue in the big picture.
Slide is one of the few brands I haven't had a chance to test out. Also, I will point out that once I added risers on the new deck the board was able to lean a little more, so it is kind of a tradeoff between having a board that is low to the ground and that leans deeply.
Cool. Morning Wood user here, good board... Another truck to try is the Ovni Orion, which is also very low and in fact lighter weight than the Curfboard (contradicting their claim that they are the lightest!).
@@madzubmetler Really interesting design that, but it definitely looks like a setup I would have trouble with for skateparks! I don't even think the coping would fit between the wheels, and I could foresee some really bad slams like when I first started trying to use the Swelltech in the park.
Fair play the Germans have allways made good quality stuff. Now being a year on,Quick question for you if it was your only board and it got stolen ! Would you buy another Curf or go for something else?
The follow up review might answer that. I would be hard pressed to get by on only one board. The things Curfboard does well it does very well. But the flat deck design with no nose is what would keep it from being my choice as an all around board if I could only have one. th-cam.com/video/9MsL89bfUmo/w-d-xo.html
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer fair comment on more than one board, have seen the other video, so yeah answered my question. I'm 62 getting back into surfing, I already have a Slide 31" with actual wheelbase of 20.5" which is about right. I cant believe how good surfskates turn. Having lived on skate boards in the 70's they were nothing like these. I'm after another board for more cruise stuff the Oxelo 540 Decathlon seems to tick alot of boxes. I sent you a question about the wheel base on those wheel to wheel. Cheers
Thanks for the informative review - the trucks look really interesting. According to their website "At higher speeds, the truck becomes more stable and prevents speed wobbles". Did you find this to be the case? I sometimes struggle with speed wobbles when trying to push my speed in bigger bowls, although in my case it's probably due to poor technique!
I feel it is like a bike, how when you try to pedal excruciatingly slow, it feels wobbly and the faster you go the more stable it feels. I never had issues with the trucks twisting over the uneven surfaces at faster speeds, like when charging up that vert wall. A general rule to help you with speed wobbles though: As long as you are keeping your board slightly on rail it can’t wobble, it is only if you are straight lining it. Lessons learned from catching edges snowboarding. Alway keep a little edge pressure and you are good!
i really disliked the Curfboard ...no surfy feel and a very limited motion available ..prefer YOW Meraki a lot more as go-to surfskate ...and swelltech for more surfspecific motions , just my personal opinion .
I heard that from someone else before trying it, which is why I was surprised to have such a different impression. I let one of the really skilled skateboard instructors here try it in the bowl and he didn't want to give it back. I wonder if it is maybe better suited to those with more of a skateboard background? Did you try yours in a bowl or skatepark ramps?
By the looks of it looks like a bowl pool truck only all right. I prefer smoothstar over the YOW in skateparks bowls, when we are talking about transition, sometimes the YOW is sending you flying facedown. But I'm using the S4 and I'm 75 kgs so maybe that's why. But the smoothstar is dead on the flat's if you compare it with the YOW in my opinion. So I should probably get hold of a YOW S5. It's easier to get higher in the bowl with less effort using the YOW. But I prefer the smooth flattish tight turn of the smoothstar. So yes it is really marginal 1a 1B. I'm experimenting with a electric mellow drive and the Yoface 34 and that's is sick in a Bowl, the closest thing to surfing on land. I'm aware of bustin boards making their own Evo using the Yoface outline just shorter length, not as fast as the mellows +40 km/hrs. I know it's a little overkill and expensive but I don't care about fancy cars. I like hammering around in bowls and then go surfing to see if something is improving.
Nice review Mark. That invert at 7:51 was sick!
Thank you! Felt pretty good to get the trucks right over the 10 foot coping.
I really appreciate the bit about the uneven surface. When you are on flat you can tune the rebound placing more weight on the front, the truck actually offer a spring effect as the truck is forced to go straight from your own weight, it is like that distributing your weight you decide how much rebound to have instead of having a spring or a bushing opposing the same force all the time. I would call it "gravity rebound" just to identify it. That's the reason why on an uneven surface it messed up the turning, it isn't because is extremely loose, but it is because the "gravity" rebound force it to turn instead of getting back to the center. ..I never tried it in a bowl (also I'm very basic riding bowls) and I didn't expect it to be so good as when you lose speed on the vert you will have zero "gravity " robound. But you made clear that is not going to be an issue at all. Thanks for testing it hard, I love to see surfskating mixed with other styles. I believe that this is the future of surfkating, it can benefit a lot from other riding style and technologies, as well as other styles can benefit from the surfskating tech and training.
Thanks for his really insightful comment and your thoughts on the future of surfskating! Your channel was one of the first I started watching when I got into surfskating so it means a lot to me! I am going to try to be bold enough to try the 7 foot roll-in again staying front foot heavy as you suggest and see how it goes.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer really? such a small world youtube. Try an angle riser on the big deck to inprove the leaning of the curfboard and use a rkp as back truck, it could become awesome. I never try as I don't have the truck
I put these trucks on an old carver deck that was really stiff(w/some mild concave and rocker) and boom! magic. The mechanism, pivoting off tail with little resistance from forward wheels became enhanced with more direct feedback. It feels amazing with backfoot base and light pressure swinging front foot like surfing. I tried it on a fancy(no name) deck with a lot of flex and it's like the two cancelled each other out. It's been the best setup for a real surf trim feel.
Thanks Mark. Much love from New Zealand! Your videos have helped me immensely as I dove down this surfskate rabbit hole!
Glad to hear it! Love NZ and can't wait to get back there for a 3rd time.
I'm on my third day of using Curfboard trucks (thanks for the discount code!). I have mostly ridden Smoothstar and your comments about the different movement required to drive the curfboard were spot on - and really useful.
The bowl I'm riding today is pretty uneven with ruts and rough patches. The trucks get knocked sideways easily, however at anything above very slow speeds they straighten up without causing a problem now that I have got used to the feel of the mini wobble.
Lots of fun.
I have a Morning Wood V3 with CX trucks, and I am so tempted to get a set of these. You really sold them well! Thanks for the great review Mark! And thanks for your continued wonderful contributions to our community :)
I really like this deck and am kind of tempted to get a set of the Qwik clip trucks so I can swap trucks depending on my terrain.
Fantastic review as always Mark. Incredibly detailed and it's clear you have a solid understanding of what Surfkskaters look for when considering a new type of surfskate system.
Keep it up!
Thanks Paul!
Thank you Mark for persisting with TH-cam. Awesome review. I'm transitioning to bowls so this is very useful.
Loved the huge Bert slide.on the very wall!
Seriously. The amount of tricks you're landing is mind boggling! It's really nice to watch. And off course nice review 😉. One nuance I was considering is that I feel that in surfing some people are 'frontfoot' heavy and they are using the front foot more to generate speed than others. It could be that this influences the way they experience these trucks.
Bought a set of these trucks based on this review. I have used a waterborne up until now, and wanted something that is LOW and LIGHT for dropping in and standard skate tricks. It fits the bill for that, and my setup is significantly faster now too.
These are loooooooose! I'm still sketched when dropping in and even though the trucks don't technically jacknife, I have spun out multiple times; weight balance between feet helps prevent this.
Low lean angle + tight turning radius = more significant turning with less lean input. This is a very sensitive setup especially at speed (hence my spin outs), tuning is possible with wedge blocks and rear truck tightness, expect to spend some time tinkering.
I have conditioned myself to manual over any sharp transitions, and warn anyone that rides the board to do the same. This is a major issue as the board will veer over those transitions and even over compound bowl transitions like hips and depth transitions. Simple bowls are fine, complex bowls take more planning.
Yes, now that winter is over and I am using it more outdoors, I am noticing that veering issue on the more complex parks versus the indoor one I had been using over the winter. You either need to hit the drop straight on or as you said do a little manual. As for dropping in, it is actually less problematic because as soon as you slam the wheels down they go straight. Something that would be good to improve in future iterations.
Great review! This looks promising!
Awesome review man. Those look like a dream to ride.
It is a very fun board to have in the quiver. And if learning to do carve grinds maybe the best for that task.
When you surf you don't lean until you're into the face of the wave or setting heavily off the bottom. The lean on other surfskates while on flat ground leads to bad habits surfing. You don't waggle on a surfboard either, which is a tendency I see a lot of surfskaters do that is bad form on a surfboard. This board's pivot off the tail with uninterrupted motion on the front is exactly like a surfboard. It lets you practice that trimline motion for speed and then you only lean on and into a bank. It's really good for surf training. I just switched off other surfskate brands because of these advantages. If you're trying to get better surfing, some surfskate tendencies can translate to bad form or hangups surfing. Practice smooth steady trimming that project forward, not waggles, and leans on a bank while opening/squaring hips and using front arm as pivot point.
Great video again! I'm unlikely to cheat on my Yow anytime soon, but I love the analysis and sweet skate footage nonetheless! BTW, I know we were talking about wheels before, I highly recommend you try the Seismic Hot Spots for flatland and street (can't comment on park as I suck at that). Super high rebound and roll speed with a predictable slide.
Edit: Also, Zenit is sick! I ride one of their boards for DH.
Those Seismics look intriguing for sure, but damn they are sure priced like they are the greatest wheel of all time! Can't find any in Canada so it would likely be at least $120 with exchange, shipping, and customs. Not sure if I'm ready for that gamble.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer You want me to send you some? What size and duro?
@@funkytomtom A really generous offer. If you are on IG or Facebook, let me know how to get in touch and I’ll reach out. Maybe we can work out an exchange or something.
The lower truck height and light weight certainly sound appealing 🤙
When I received the box I wondered if I misunderstood and was only getting a deck
Great review Mark as usual, hope you can keep posting awesome videos longer on the TH-cam Chanel, they have work very much to improve my riding, you rock!
Regarding the board you put together, what size and model is the Zenit deck you put on this board. I don’t do street skate tricks, I ride the bowl and do a lot of grinds, slides, and starting practicing some front side airs. Do you think this deck could be beneficial for my riding style since it has the double tail?
This is the deck I used: zenitboards.com/products/morning-wood-v3 - Based on your style as described, you don't need a nose with kick, but if you start progressing more with airs especially, it is helpful to have that lift up front to push against when you are levelling your board out after popping off the lip. What I loved about this deck is that it is ultra light, so it maintains close to the weight of the original Wave SE complete, but it still seems very strong so far.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer this is great advice, thanks for the feedback and the quick response 🤙
Hey Mark! Thanks for the review! How does this compare to the YOW Meraki boards? Which one would you recommend for practicing turns for surfing on flat ground?
So keep in mind that my perspective can change over time and my riding style isn't the same as everyone but here is how I'd put it:
Best All-Around performer
1a) YOW
1b) Smooth star
Best Flat Ground specific system:
- Swelltech
Best Bowl specific system:
- Curfboard
Best for skateboard style tricks:
- Carver CX or C5
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Thanks for the response!
I have a globe stubby with revenge II trucks, and I'm not liking it tbh so might give YOW trucks a go. Thanks again!
@@androuil cool I Have the exact same board, it's not a bad board the revenge trucks can be made crazy loose. I modified it with some Cut to size Otang bushing and fat free 80a. Later use it with some Carver CX. But it lacks concave but actually used it for years in skatepark and Bowls and then cruising back home perfect all fits one. Except fast freeride downhill anyway for Nerds.
@@Quickrex Hey man, thanks for taking the time to respond! Can you point me to a guide of how you got yours to be looser? My front truck feels a bit stiff, and I don't have any experience with skateboard trucks!
@@androuil No problem. I bought the stubby like 10 years ago so bushings could have changed since then (probably) the bushing that came with the board is very stiff but the thing with the revenge truck is that it more difficult to find some bushings say like double cones, they are definitely restrictive (no room for high bushings with meat on them). But loosen the kingpin nut so the front truck becomes super loos. The wheels are useless. So get some that have some rebound around 65mm, higher than that and you will be needing risers, here we talking every day use. Go check Surfskate Love her on TH-cam , he explains what works. I like Orangatang fat free and love handles both 65mm and Alva Conical 59mm, 88A for skateparks and bowl they are pretty dame cool and fast too. Priority no 1 loosen the truck until you feel comfortable then some more when you progress. Then over time you can go with carver CX or the YOW Meraki. AliExpress sells both 25-50$. Same thing functionality wise, the quality okay but again not exactly. Dame Chinese copy cat’s. The globe Stubby was for a very long time my go to everything board. So light and nimble yet so fat and stable. Good choice.
Dammit! I should not have watched this video!lol But thanks for the discount now a set of trucks are on the way to here:-)
Haha, I know the feeling... But hope you will enjoy them!
Lovely footage :) Do you think this board would be good for a beginner in skate parks, or would the loose trucks make it too tricky?
That is a great question. I can think of one big advantage: This board provides the looseness of some of the other boards but without the risk of "jackknifing" (when you bottom out the front of the board, usually causing you to go flying). It is also pretty easy to pump. I do wonder if it might feel a bit out of control if learning to ride transition on it and riding at slower speeds - you know how a bike feels more wobbly when it is going slow instead of fast? Not sure if that helps but I'll update when my students get a chance to try it.
Thank you Mark for detailed review. Can you tell me how it feel for regular pushing (for commuting). Is it stable enough if I will just ride by pushing (both foots)? How good it will be if I use LDP pumping style similar I do on GBomb longboard?
This board pumps very easily on the sidewalk because it has less resistance but you can kick push it easily too if you want since it is really low to the ground compared to other surfskates. I don't really have any LDP experience so can't answer your question there and LDP pumping style.
Interesting, what the name of the deck that you put the truck on ? And to find it please ?
It was this one. It is sold out now but they have the newer versions: zenitboards.com/products/morning-wood-v3-blem?_pos=59&_sid=195ca2b9d&_ss=r
Cool stuff! Great Review. Which Zenit Board did you use?
Morning Wood V3
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer I bought the truck with your code :) Really curious how it will be in a concrete bowl with Peralta G-Bones.
@@derekkatwijk Yeah! What deck / wheelbase do you have in mind for it? When I set it up on my Zenit I dropped it to about 17.25”.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Trying to find out actually. I have one board, an early taylor knox carver. Can't find the specs for it. But it think it will be perfect. As you said the truck feels a bit like a C7.
@@derekkatwijk That should work! Just to clarify… The lean is similar to a C7, but there is way more rotation than a C7
Regarding bowl riding, aside from weight and lack of king pin, does it beat CX in any other way? I love riding CX in bowls, I’m not at level to grind coping but am improving and curious if there’s a better option. So far I find CX more fun than C7, YOW, Waterborne for this purpose. Is it stable like CX?
If you see stability as a positive, CX or regular skateboard truck would be more stable and maybe a better option for learning. But if you want to progress past learning and into mastering, I found that these hug the walls of the bowl no matter what angle you approach from. You can go straight up the wall and carve back down without kick turning. They are so nimble in tight spaces. They are therefore better at maintaining speed even if you take a bad trajectory. I can’t explain why, but my flow in the bowl with these trucks just feels effortless. I wouldn’t have believed it until I tried it.
5:55 how do you deal with the trucks going sideways when dropping in?
It never happened! On a flat surface they always straighten out. So dropping in and landing airs they always return to centre. It was only here. I am now using this board on rough cobble streets and it is fine as well so it doesn't seem to be that big of an issue in the big picture.
Unfortunately only completes are available in the US.
I was told by the company that they are going to have overseas shipping soon, so I hope that means any of their products
Where’s this park located?
In my hometown of Ottawa, Canada
How's it compare to Slide 3.0? Both are low to the ground, and don't really lean.
How well does the Curfboard pump compared to Slide? I hear the Slide is among the best for pumping.
Slide is one of the few brands I haven't had a chance to test out. Also, I will point out that once I added risers on the new deck the board was able to lean a little more, so it is kind of a tradeoff between having a board that is low to the ground and that leans deeply.
Cool. Morning Wood user here, good board... Another truck to try is the Ovni Orion, which is also very low and in fact lighter weight than the Curfboard (contradicting their claim that they are the lightest!).
@@madzubmetler Really interesting design that, but it definitely looks like a setup I would have trouble with for skateparks! I don't even think the coping would fit between the wheels, and I could foresee some really bad slams like when I first started trying to use the Swelltech in the park.
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Fair play the Germans have allways made good quality stuff. Now being a year on,Quick question for you if it was your only board and it got stolen ! Would you buy another Curf or go for something else?
The follow up review might answer that. I would be hard pressed to get by on only one board. The things Curfboard does well it does very well. But the flat deck design with no nose is what would keep it from being my choice as an all around board if I could only have one. th-cam.com/video/9MsL89bfUmo/w-d-xo.html
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer fair comment on more than one board, have seen the other video, so yeah answered my question. I'm 62 getting back into surfing, I already have a Slide 31" with actual wheelbase of 20.5" which is about right. I cant believe how good surfskates turn. Having lived on skate boards in the 70's they were nothing like these. I'm after another board for more cruise stuff the Oxelo 540 Decathlon seems to tick alot of boxes. I sent you a question about the wheel base on those wheel to wheel. Cheers
Thanks for the informative review - the trucks look really interesting. According to their website "At higher speeds, the truck becomes more stable and prevents speed wobbles". Did you find this to be the case? I sometimes struggle with speed wobbles when trying to push my speed in bigger bowls, although in my case it's probably due to poor technique!
I feel it is like a bike, how when you try to pedal excruciatingly slow, it feels wobbly and the faster you go the more stable it feels. I never had issues with the trucks twisting over the uneven surfaces at faster speeds, like when charging up that vert wall. A general rule to help you with speed wobbles though: As long as you are keeping your board slightly on rail it can’t wobble, it is only if you are straight lining it. Lessons learned from catching edges snowboarding. Alway keep a little edge pressure and you are good!
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer great tip Mark👍thank you
i really disliked the Curfboard ...no surfy feel and a very limited motion available ..prefer YOW Meraki a lot more as go-to surfskate ...and swelltech for more surfspecific motions , just my personal opinion .
I heard that from someone else before trying it, which is why I was surprised to have such a different impression. I let one of the really skilled skateboard instructors here try it in the bowl and he didn't want to give it back. I wonder if it is maybe better suited to those with more of a skateboard background? Did you try yours in a bowl or skatepark ramps?
By the looks of it looks like a bowl pool truck only all right. I prefer smoothstar over the YOW in skateparks bowls, when we are talking about transition, sometimes the YOW is sending you flying facedown. But I'm using the S4 and I'm 75 kgs so maybe that's why. But the smoothstar is dead on the flat's if you compare it with the YOW in my opinion. So I should probably get hold of a YOW S5. It's easier to get higher in the bowl with less effort using the YOW. But I prefer the smooth flattish tight turn of the smoothstar. So yes it is really marginal 1a 1B. I'm experimenting with a electric mellow drive and the Yoface 34 and that's is sick in a Bowl, the closest thing to surfing on land. I'm aware of bustin boards making their own Evo using the Yoface outline just shorter length, not as fast as the mellows +40 km/hrs. I know it's a little overkill and expensive but I don't care about fancy cars. I like hammering around in bowls and then go surfing to see if something is improving.
Which deck did you ride? Most negative reviews I've seen have the longer cruisy deck without the risers and rear dewedge. 🤔