Pop!_OS And The COSMIC Desktop. The Best Desktop Linux?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2021
- I'm taking a quick look at the recently released Pop!_OS 21.04 with their COSMIC desktop. COSMIC is a set of customizations that makes GNOME much more palatable. In fact, Pop!_OS COSMIC might be the best GNOME-based Linux distro. It could even be argued that Pop!_OS might be the best desktop Linux distro period.
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That doesn’t even make sense lmao
@@Gaddafist23 i think he means Arch
Wasn't it ''memories''?
No, it's Gentoo Linux. You can thank me later.
Totally !
Finally someone smart
Shortcuts, Tiling, Dock and new Search bar, is basically awesome
DT you totally breezed over the tiling functionality of the pop shell. The tiling extension for gnome is fairly well done.
I think that when you use a tiling WM like xmonad, i3 or Bspwm, pop os tiling is really good but you already use things like that all the day.
i guess he already covered it in previous vedios so didn't bothered himself to go through it again
@@augustin64 but it is a review of the distribution, skipping over such a big feature is weird when he spent so much time talking about toggling the maximize and minimize buttons, moving the dock and other irrelevant stuff.
also unlike the other tiling WMs he uses, pop shell is not a diy kit but part of a full desktop environment.
I'd love to see a Linux distro that is intentionally meant for medium-high end PCs, by having plenty of crazy visual enhancements and eyecandy in the ui. Such as smooth animations, transitions, animates objects, and so on
I think KDE checks on all the criterias that you mentioned.
Garuda is pretty much just that
@@marck0060 Exactly, it has so much "gaming" shit on it it's ridiculous. Decided to try it out and removed it the same day.
Deepin, Garuda, KDE Neon
Garuda Dragonized. Peauxwet said they had gaming stuff on it but you can just not get that iso. Dragonized without the gaming part. Check it out!
You missed the best feature:
Automatic tiling
He has said in a previous video that he doesn't like it. Honestly hasn't changed much from before
I'd settle for basic functionality working instead of a buggy mess.
The stack tiling is my favorite and its a killer function!
19:52 minutes before opening a terminal in a DT video. That has to be some kind of record.
Hi DT, you did not show the "auto-tiling" feature. Would like to see your judgement.
Thats the main point tho bring actual power users to it, such a functionality while still keeping animations and stuff is kinda nice
It's cool. I like it quite a bit. I do wish they'd add a "remove decorations" option for when you want to use only tiling. I guess that would defeat that other aspect - I can't remember what it's called where you drag/snap them into tab groups or something. That's cool as well, but I just use tiling and workspaces so will rarely if ever use that tab thing.
@@dacritter8397 I think gnometweaktool or some other gnome extension allows you to do that
I think he didn't like the tiling in pop is in a previous review. Hasn't changed a lot since then
I was about to comment the same
Been using pop as a daily driver for a bit over a year now, its fantastic!
The tiling is the kicker for me. I'm a programmer, and so often need to have multiple windows open, and switch between them very frequently. I also want to be as keyboard-oriented as possible. However, when I tried some of the WMs like i3, dwm, xmonad and whatever, I just could not do without a full desktop environment. It is way too much work to set up my own system like some of you guys do. I just want something that "just works" out of the box, perhaps with minor tweaks, and using a diy WM is the complete opposite of that.
I feel that Pop OS contains everything I need and want, and also looks fantastic!
I also like to recommend it to beginners, as it is very beginner friendly and easy to use, but does not get in your way when you know your way around. Except if you want to do some major tweaking, but at that point you probably don't want to be in a DE.
I just found this channel recently and absolutely LOVE it, but It broke my heart when you said "If you didn't want to use the dock, you could disable it, I'm not sure why you'd want to do that." If you disable it, you can bring all the same things up by hitting the Super key and using the dash. This frees up the desktop significantly and lets a user bring up the dock on their own terms instead of having it be present even when not being used.
It really confuses me why so many people want a dock when most people actively use it maybe 1% of the time and it takes up so much space. Dash life is so free!
Because Pop is still for new users, and new users find it easier to pin most-used applications to the dock, and open them that way. Linux can be customized, but that doesn't mean a distribution should remove features because *some* people wouldn't use it. If you're someone who would disable the dock after installing Pop, why not just install a distribution that uses a tiling window manager?
Really, it "broke your heart"?
Getting dumped breaks my heart. War, poverty, and disease break my heart.
A TH-camr with different settings from me... seems pretty minor.
Because you use it 1% of the time everyone else also uses 1% of the time ? Come on man, you're just being ridiculous, who even cares what specific setting he just chose...
with intellihide, it wastes zero space since it would be hidden if it covered anything...
Excellent video Derek!!😀
This is an awesome review of an awesome desktop and distribution.
I love it when this happens! Thanks DT.
Great video DistroTub
What I've always liked about Pop OS (I've been using it since 20.04) is that it doesn't feel like using gnome at all...And I'm a huge fan of tiling window managers, but I got tired of trying stuff and configuring everything myself, I just wanted something with sane default.
And the integrated tiling with pop shell is amazing. I'm surprised you didn't talk about it, it's the best thing about pop, out of all the features.
Great go-thru video, easy to understand.
Loving the COSMIC DE! If I could install it on Manjaro I would have my favorite distro. The leanness and constant updates of arch, the stability of manjaro, and the polish of pop.
Same! Manjaro + Cosmic (xorg) = best Linux distro ever
I just installed it this morning, it is by far the most completed distro
You can use dash-to-panel to integrate the top bar to the dock
KDE Plasma: Hold it right there.
DT, are you going to add the PoP wallpapers to your collection?
I've been using Pop! OS for a bit now, having come from Windows. I really like it, and one of the primary reasons I chose it is because window tiling is built in to the Cosmic desktop. My only quibble is that I am not a fan of how the tiling algorithm works. After seeing your demos with dwm, awesome, etc I would rather have a very simple stacked layout. There are some keybindings to "fix" where it puts the next window... and that's something I need to learn. That said, the tiling manager does have some issues where it can reserve blank space for a window that is no longer there. But these are the types of things that you can only learn after working with it for a while.
You have stacked layout in PopOS. It’s actually my favorite! Press super+s, a title bar will show up and everything you open up, opens in a tab.
And you can navigate through them with super+left|right.
thanks for this video gave me idea on taskbar that i just hide my KDE taskbar look and now look so neat...
One thing I don't understand is the separate run launcher. Gnome itself has its own implementation, which is also more functional and more mature. It's just two tools for the same job. Would've made more sense if they made it just a wrapper for the original search
Wow, high praise indeed!
I'm doing web-based software development and wanted to have a Linux desktop machine because of all the open source development goodness that is easy to install on Linux. It would be great fun to play around with 147 different distros and recompile device drivers from source and all of that, but I don't have time for that. I'm trying to do real work. I don't have time to build my own computer either, and I just wanted to buy something. So I bought a System76 Thelio with PopOS and its great. A good solid out-of-the-box Linux experience. That's what I wanted and that's what I got,
Same using it for Golang, and Web development. It’s rock solid.
Thanks for the heads up, Kane.
Thank you man for The information
Hi DT
Tnx for your videos. Motivate me
This looks awesome.
Id love if popos came out with different official versions so people who don't like gnome aren't at a risk of breaking their system with software conflicts when they try to move to KDE or Cinnamon
POP is what got me started using the Linux Desktop 'for real'. I had always played around with Linux desktop and it was mostly on my servers, but when it came out as a gaming friendly distro a few years back I was able to switch to it for a while just for general use and it accelerated my learning. Then I caught on to Arco from you and it is a great learning tool, as well as a Linux desktop. Something I think the community needs to work on is a workflow for ultra-wides. This is where it can make sense to have a dock in the middle, and it is also where Windows is great with fancy zones, I have been trying to replicate my Windows setup with tiling WM (I really like q-tile). What I want is to have about 50% in the centre of the screen for a 'focus' area and I use the wings to monitor what I am running. With Fancy Zones on Windows I can shift things around with hot-keys as well as setup for side-by-side. That's why have gone back to a floating WM in Linux but I am not overly happy because I am somewhat messy... Maybe you can figure something out and provide some more content :D
Thank you, Derek. The tiling and stacking (tabbing) management has gotten better.
19:40 what about all the tilling stuff ?
I just started using pop os today and so far I love it! I am amazed on how many games it can run on steam with no problem. ( mind you this is coming from a Linux noob who has used Manjaro and mint)
Your video made me want to try PopOS on my 2 in one laptop.
In line with your closing comment, making Gnome usable, please consider an update including on the integrated tiling window management.
Thanks. One of the few videos iv'e watched from beginning to end. I'm new to Linux and using Zorin and mint. I'm thinking about replacing Zorin with pop_OS
Been using for some months and I'm very happy with it, simple yet powerful
Thank you! Nice video!
If you have time, could you please do a video for proxmox and a simple way to connect to the vm like x2go or xrdp?
I really liked this new launcher, and i didn't know you could use commands through the launcher.
I'm using it for 2 years now and work with it, pretty stable and with great UI, the one thing I don't like is kind of "difficult" to customize taskbar, login screen colors, etc but that's more of a GDM3 problem.
i installed the dracula theme on as many programs as i could think. however, the calendar up top/the power menu etc are all still just plain white. any way to change them too ?
Not only Cosmic but Gnome over all is very key oard friendly and I love it because of that
It is a great distro. I just put it on an old laptop before a business trip to play with it and I think I may be hooked.
This is a great video
Particullarly, my favorite is Emacs
Nano ftw
@Jay Patel vim superior
@Jay Patel vim only has 4 packages on Gentoo, neovim has 13. Added bloat
"War, war never changes..." 😜🤣🤣🤣
i love your channel
After all the years i finally found a Linux OS that simply work for me
I use Arch btw
I use Void and i3 btw
I was Unstable Debian btw
@@RodgerCrocket I tried but gave up 😂
@Fsociety 00 better? What makes it "better"? That was a stupid comment that makes no sense.
I got my arch install running on a macbook pro.
which is kind of pathetic, but it's a lot for me : )
First thing that differentiated pop os from other ubuntu based distributions I've tried was that you are allowed to set your mouse speed as high as you want from settings. So no need to start changing transformation matrix. If anyone knows how I can do this in any linux distro it would be helpful.
I like pop os. I came from windows and as ive tried a few distros i came back to pop. I would like to maybe try a couple DE but i like the simplicity and using the application screen reminds me of win 8.1 if i could figure out how to use linux stuff a little better that be nice.
Can you do a bluetooth connected while streaming online and see if it slows the connection to a halt on every distro linux you test?
Is there anyway to change where the launcher pops on the screen after super is pressed? It pops in the middle of the screen which is kinda annoying!
In previous editions of Pop!_OS hitting the super key would bring up all the windows for the current workspace, the workspace list and a search / run bar. I absolutely loved this, and separating the two things out to two different shortcuts disappointed me. It was so easy to navigate applications with a single key press before!
I've since recently moved over to Kubuntu, as I was having issues with additional monitors and the propitiatory graphics chip causing black screens and after some customizing I am enjoying the experience.
Love my first Linux Distro in my life
what to me with pop os was a bummer that the hashfiles do not fit to the master hash file.. that is super odd and it is for all releases i found so far. both for intel/amd and nvidia new releases as well as LTS
Only things I'm wanting right now are transparency / color for the application and dock background.
...and a nice menu for the applications. :)
The blur my shell gnome extension works pretty well
@@baldpolnareff7224 The problem with gnome extensions is that they get broken with each gnome update...
@@knofi7052 that's generally true, but blur my shell supports both gnome 38 and gnome 40, plus cosmic is gonna be based on gnome 38 regardless, this extension has never given me issues, it's worth checking
I think you guys are really lucky to have such amazingly fast PCs that you have all those free CPU cycles to waste on pointless eye candy - me, I'm always going for efficiency and not wasting CPU time or memory on stuff that is just designed to impress someone who happens to be looking over my shoulder when I use my PC.
I think a lot of it comes down to my treating a computer as a productivity tool and entertainment device, rather than a "fashion accessory".
hi, maybe you have solution about pop os, i work with a lot of picture, when i want to upload my picture to twitter or facebook or else, the "files" program cannot showing Thumbnail, so i must choose one by one, how to solve that problem? very thanks if you reply my case.. tx
weird question but could I possibly just steal this new cosmic environment for my arch install? It just seems like I all I would ever want from i3 or any similar wm but without having to spend several days setting up the looks.
Hey DT,
I am having problems with installing PopOS 21.04.
While booting in live usb, it gives me first the desktop correctly for 10 seconds. After that I get terminal screen with grub boot loader failed message and terminal is locked. I am able to do ctrl + alt + del to restart the system.
Same here - eventually, re-blew install to a faster USB. However, then had probs getting an alongside install...
Id love to try but it crashed right after I get to desktop. It's the only distro I have tried including some betas that crashes :(
I'm a long-time Windows user, so... If I want to know if I can have a slideshow as a background; have different slideshows in different workspaces. Does it have a built-in clipboard manager? Where do I find thorough documentation on Pop!_OS and the COSMIC desktop?
Just did a fresh install of Pop OS. I have no ethernet connection?? So no internet at the moment..I am able to get internet via Wi-Fi through Pop os but why isn't it recognizing my ethernet cable? Any ideas?
Every youtuber thumbnail : best distro ever . Me trying to install crashes at setup wizard
probably something to do with your flash/usb, in my experience
@@arijeanz works fine with usb boot when installing it crashes. Newer version iso solved that issue anyway
Wow, finally someone included a simple app launcher, reminds me of Gnome Do back in the day. Will give this a go!
Please DT do a full customization video on Pop!_OS like the "from noob to poweruser" video you did on Linux Mint, please 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 That video helped me a lot to get into Linux and the terminal and to have fun tweaking the system around. I’d really love to see how you'd tweak Pop!_OS to be a DT style fantastic looking daily driver, what essential terminal application you'd install and so on … Pop!_OS DT Edition
Guys, how to handle small text on the hight dpi laptop. Its hard to see evrything.
I'm a distro hopper, but I keep coming back to pop-os because it feels like home.
Sooo, another video just about the built in tiling?
What is the super key? Is it the equivalent of the windows key?
The run launcher is similar to u-launcher right?
the top bar might be useful if you run the desktop environment with the built in tiling windows manager. this might just be the one that brings me over from windows now that i can't update my desktop rig to windows 11 because of a stupid missing chip that i don't need or want.
I'm guessing that Pop is now among the distros you'll install for other people?
Although, I have to say, comparing what Windows 11 has in similarity with Pop!_OS is like the *_‘
bottom surgery’_* of the more natural, nuclear Pop!_OS Linux distribution. 😏
Thank you for the content, Derek! 👍
Greetings from Scandinavia.
Heill auk Sæll!
When I installed Pop_OS! on my old dell laptop. I ran into a bug. I had to unplug the ethernet cable. If I did not do this the desktop would disappear and drop to a tty.
I tried the top 6 distros from distrowatch on a HP laptop with a external Dell Monitor .. Pop! OS was the only one that had a stable external screen .. and I REALLY tried to make the others work. On some the detect monitor never worked.. on others the resolution wouldn't stick or even gave me an odd screen that was like a smaller resolution on a background of a larger resolution.. I am sure it's me, and if I had done something I might have gotten one of the others to do what it was supposed to.. but I don't need to now.
if I'm not wrong, there is a shell extension to get rid of that top panel.
Hi I installed Arcolinux and when I first started it up it started giving me a log on prompt and password prompt. and it went into a big terminal, that I can't get my gui to install . I've tried installing it again nothing worked. I've searched for an answer for hours. Please give me some advice I'm desperate. I only have 1 usb drive and can't get a linux Mint usb/ This laptop runs Arco great sorry for being long. Blessing
Still happy with dwm BUT: I NEED TO HAVE THAT T-SHIRT!
is it possible that "gnome" could be pronounced "nome", as in alaska? i understand the "gnu" connection.
It is at my house but I believe the cool kids use the g-nome .
wow DT actually praising this distro
question : does the upgrade smooth ?
'does the upgrade smooth?'
The touch gestures are really a game changer and enhance the UI user experience. They should really be shown at least a little bit to give a more complete demo.
Best distro smooth feeling and clean no cluttering 🥰
Is it possible to install that desktop in another distro?
It would be a shame to talk about Pop!_OS without talking about it's tiling. I looking forward to follow up video.
Well I am an OpenSuse user but may try this on my secondary ssd.
Hey DT, I had a small question (TL;DR at the end) phrased in a horrible way that takes like a hundred or so words more than it should but I like to be descriptive.
So... I know it's not yet possible for them to push the top notifications and everything into the dock perhaps but is it possible for us as end users to just have whatever is in the dock up in the top bar? Or is there a distro that does it? So to explain it better...
Here's the thing. I am currently a Windows user and before this I was a MacOS user for almost a decade. I switched over to Windows this year as Macs have become way too costly, but I have hated Windows ever since I have used it and am planning to switch to Linux. In Windows I have realized that I barely ever use the dock in itself except to see what apps are already running or to check my battery. To run an app, even if it's on the dock I find it faster to press super and search it and press enter than to move my hand away from keyboard and click it with a trackpad.
TLDR what my question was - is there a distro that does not have a dock at all, has the super key search thing and shows the running apps in the top bar (for easy switching between apps?) or can we recreate the same in Pop!_OS in some way? Thanks.
First time I heard someone do a review while running an auction at the same time.
I use Mageia 8 since Mandriva 2006.... I am using Mageia 9 Cauldron and it works great.. I will try PopOS. Thanks..
after seeing this vid, i rly wanna try pop os, but im so used to arch and its package management and stuff which is what makes me hesitant
You talked about Pop! OS but did not mention Pop! Shell. Which turns the Cosmic desktop into a tiling WM.
At 1:52, all I gotta say is... _nice._
I tried using the new dock for a couple of days and ended up just going back to the dash to panel extention.
did they change the installer in the final version? i remember in the beta version of 21.04 the user account was created after the first boot. or at least in prior versions of pop os this was the case
Felt like a classic DT episode, thanks I might set my brother up with Pop! instead of Manjaro XFCE now
not sure if this helps, but I found that it'd be easier on the hand if you turn down the sensitivity on your mouse and then actually use your elbow to move your mouse. Of course I'm still all for keyboard-driven interface, but I thought it could help those of you who can't be bothered to remember the keybindings
I'm not a fan of using the software stores either but I use a package manager instead of terminal installs. Why? Because I discover new things like in a software store, plus I see exactly what packages will be installed or replaced and sometimes that will stop me from installing a new program.
I was really looking forward to your views on the tiling 🤔. Quite a major lack in this review...
My Father's pc on pop and my mother on mint. Their not often using pc's, haven't heard about any trouble phone call yet. User friendly distro. With pop i did dist-upgrade from gnome settings one time, you telling me I want to do that again soon? :D Was not a rofi, dmenu like launcher on meta key.
Pop switched me from KDE to Gnome. Their keyboard shortcuts are really well setup.
You can make your own shortcuts in KDE, you know? Keyboard shortcuts are way more customizable in KDE.
@@_MPP_ Many people prefer to have good defaults than to have a hundred configuration options to configure.
@@mmstick can't deny that, but I think everyone should think about their workflow and try different shortcuts/hotkeys. There will never be "the best default setup" that works for all the users.
@@mmstick And those hundred configuration options, are just for the settings of the settings!
I'm really surprised you didn't use the built in window tiling.