The Old Testament Devil and the Identity of the Serpent: Beginning the Discussion

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  • @HammerHeadzzz
    @HammerHeadzzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The point about the sky God in almost every early religion was fascinating. True of indo European Deus Pater and its spiritual descendants. Seems like your quality is getting better and better. Good topic

    • @toomanymarys7355
      @toomanymarys7355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      China has it too. Heaven itself is an impersonal goodness.

  • @panokostouros7609
    @panokostouros7609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You ever consider setting up online courses for Patrons, similar to what Father Peter Heers does?

  • @MajorasTime
    @MajorasTime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hope you're prepared for your debate against Matt Slick this weekend. 🙏

  • @TimothyBukowskiApologist
    @TimothyBukowskiApologist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been waiting years for this video! (since you mentioned it in your life story a couple years ago)

  • @evant7196
    @evant7196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any plans to do a video on YEC? Your interview on Jay’s Analysis a long time ago has had me eager for a follow up ever since.

    • @TimothyBukowskiApologist
      @TimothyBukowskiApologist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He discussed it quite a bit in his 5 part series on his life story (especially part 5)

  • @ourdictatorship
    @ourdictatorship 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi dad I just found your videos randomly in my suggestion list. I am so excited about your tiers where is the return my copy of Aristotle East and West tier love youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

  • @danielgreenleaf
    @danielgreenleaf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:03:08 That’s one tangent I would have liked to heard. Maybe you can get into in a future video.

  • @TheMorning_Son
    @TheMorning_Son 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you have videos on how the orthodox interpret covenants? The Reformed divide between covenantal of works and covenants of grace?...feels wrong

    • @toomanymarys7355
      @toomanymarys7355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone probably explained it wrong or understood it wrong. Anyone who teaches that a covenant of works could be sufficient for salvation apart from grace is a heretic. A heretic of the Reformed camp, too.

    • @TheMorning_Son
      @TheMorning_Son 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toomanymarys7355 but is the distinction necessary ? Covenant of grave vs works or something like that I dunno it sounded odd..

    • @esoterico7750
      @esoterico7750 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For the reformed the covenant of works was only in the garden. They don’t think grace was needed before the fall

    • @TheMorning_Son
      @TheMorning_Son 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@esoterico7750 grace is eternal tho..God is eternally graceful.
      What about Jesus when he does good works under the law in the old covenant before the cross? God is always at his good work even on the sabbath day so how can grace be divided from works?

    • @thebyzantinescotist7081
      @thebyzantinescotist7081 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He has a video on the subject. tl;dw covenants are about adoption as sons by God.

  • @sidewaysfcs0718
    @sidewaysfcs0718 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've had this idea for a long time.
    Genesis doesn't actually say snake, it says serpent, Nacash or Drakon in the greek Septuagint. Both words mean serpent, crawling creature.
    Seraph in egyptian means crawling creature, Saraph in hebrew is almost impossible to distinguish between Seraph since there are no vowels, the Seraphim heavenly hosts are the "burning ones", but Saraph means crawling, there is a clear linguistic association between Seraphim and Saraph, it's hard to deduce the chronologic order in which these terms evolved though.
    I think the narrative language used in Genesis is intentionally anachronistic to convey the symbolism of the serpent before he BECAME a serpent, the Serpent is reffered to as a crawling one from the start, but in fact God curses the evil one after the Fall and tells him he will eat dirt (he will eat the dead) and will crawl on his belly, meaning God makes him crawl by force, as a punishment. Which means the Evil One did not crawl initially.
    The devil in the Garden was obviously a fallen angel, i conclude he was a fallen Seraphim (which is high rank of messenger-type angel), he probably appeared to Eve as an angel of light and decieved her like this, then God punishes this demon and turns him into a crawling beast, a Saraph / Nacash. Or a Drakon / Dragon in greek, not with wings like classical medieval mythical dragons, because Drakon means serpent in greek. Like a Komodo Dragon.
    The Beast in Revelation/The Dragon is often drawn as a far lizard/serpent-like creature in the iconography of The Final Judgment, swallowing the Lake of Fire with the dead which are punished by Christ.
    Now, wether or not the devil in Genesis is Lucifer or not, i don't think ultimately changes anything about the history of the event, it had to be a demon's that much is clear.

  • @toomanymarys7355
    @toomanymarys7355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wantonly is pronounced WANT-un-ly, not wonton-ly. Great convo, btw.

    • @cpSharkBlast
      @cpSharkBlast 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This video is just as good as Wanton soup

  • @matthewjamesb.234
    @matthewjamesb.234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brother, God has blessed you with some serious knowledge. Thank you brother for your work

  • @celienepaul5378
    @celienepaul5378 ปีที่แล้ว

    God bless ❤

  • @ALLHEART_
    @ALLHEART_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    45:32

  • @TheForbiddenLean
    @TheForbiddenLean ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you denying the existence of the Evil One? Like Satan as a general term?

    • @Seraphim-Hamilton
      @Seraphim-Hamilton  ปีที่แล้ว

      No, just saying that Satan isn't his personal name, just a title.

    • @TheForbiddenLean
      @TheForbiddenLean ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Seraphim-Hamilton i figured. Thank you for answering me

    • @sidewaysfcs0718
      @sidewaysfcs0718 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is a particular Evil One that is the first to fall, Lucifer, but he is reffered to like other demons all the same, as satan/accuser@@TheForbiddenLean

  • @ElijahHarpjr-i9b
    @ElijahHarpjr-i9b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Adam was flying farmer

  • @diegobarragan4904
    @diegobarragan4904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The vast majority of the saints, including st Gregory Palamas, teach that Satan inhabited a snake in the garden.

    • @toomanymarys7355
      @toomanymarys7355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were working in Greek only.

    • @diegobarragan4904
      @diegobarragan4904 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toomanymarys7355 this includes Latin saints

  • @ElijahHarpjr-i9b
    @ElijahHarpjr-i9b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Elijah is Satan's son He went to heaven once