Why SO Bad?! The Mistercraft IL-2M3 Sturmovik Plastic Model Kit in 1/72 Scale - Build & Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2024
- I have a rule where I must build a model before buying a new one - having had the Mistercraft IL-2M3 Sturmovik in "Operation Berlin" colours in the stash for a few years now, it's time to get this out of the stash!
I already know that this is not a good kit thanks to the unboxing I previously created: • Is the Mistercraft IL-...
But having now built it, I was not prepared for how many challenges it would present. Join me in this video as I build the 1/72 scale plastic model kit of the Mistercraft IL-2M3 Sturmovik in "Operation Berlin" colours (C-28) in a "Back to Basics" style, rounding off the video with a review at the end.
The "Back to Basics" series of plastic model kit builds focuses on completeing the models with simple skills and techniques that would be suitable for a beginner to learn new methods from, or simply as an entertaining video for those more experienced modellers.
Let me know in the comments if there are other kits you would like to see in the "Back to Basics" series.
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Look please I know its just a model but please fix the polish markings. The red corner always top left
that's interesting, whilst the polish marking has the red corner top left today, it would seem that in all the resources I can find online it was top right in soviet use
edit: i also can't "fix" them now they are stuck on the model
Hello Matt :). Polish insignia had red square top left from 1918 till 1993. From that year there is white square and red is top right. It may be a bit confusing;). The true is there there were some planes with white top left. They were mistakes made by pilots or technicians expecially in the first years. Also polish planes in France (1940) had such unofficial insignia at the hull.
@@Adi3111 it is certainly confusing
@@ModelMinutes It not confusing. You only need to try at least looking up on wikipedia page. Part of scale modelling is trying to achieve accuracy, so if you're not even trying you are doing it wrong.
@@mixererunio1757 I did look it up, all the resources for il2 in polish use that I can see online have them as I depicted in this build… it’s mentioned that they changed it after 1991 in another comment
I'm from Poland, and I'm ashamed of this company😭 This is an old ZTS model from the 1980s. But we have better, modern ones, such as Arma Hobby, IBG. Build these.
I've done several ZTS kits and most are way better! Especially love the RWD series of aircraft and the PZL fighters. Also done the Javelin and Hunter.
Yeah I think I talk about that in the video?
@@ModelMinutesMisterkit /Misterkraft.....i need a beer for this Mat.🤣🤣🤣
These kits are almost for free in most shops in Europe so to expect something good would be naive. Excellent for starters to learn some basic skills before moving on to nice quality kits
@@marcblank3036 some of their kits are actually okay...the problem is that most,if not all,are reboxings of other companies toolings so you dont know what you are buying....i built 3 of their SU-17/20/22 kits and they were fine,built 1 of the Hawker hunter kits and it was fine....their Fouga Magister is a straight up reboxing of the Heller kit but on the flipside the Mig-29 and Sabb Draken kits from them are AWFUL.
I had this as a kid and I’ve got to take my hat off to you for pushing through, I sure didn’t 😂
Thanks!
For an absolute balls of a kit you shave managed to make a smashing looking model! I feel I need to try and make this kit…..if I can find it! Great vid!!
Most of their models have similar issues. Great for experimentation of skills but tough for good results. I have got their Su17/22 as well. Exactly same issues
Good luck!
@@ModelMinutes it should be a sub division at contests. Who can get the best for the MrCraft award
@@marcblank3036 love this idea 😂
I am sorry to hear that you had a lot of problems with this kit. However, in the end you did turn lemons into lemonade. Or a bad model kit into a decent looking completed kit.
Also, extra praises must be given for making you own decals. Even though you had a bleeding issue, when you used Micro Scale Decal Film, on the sheet. Good to see that spraying the sheet in matt varnish worked for you. Hopefully we will see you make more custom decals in the future.
Anyway, I hope you have a very Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year, Matt. And hopefully there are no more Mistercraft kits waiting under the Christmas tree for you. I do not think you need the stress of making another one!
Happy Christmas to you too!
I'd be interested in doing some more custom decals in the future, but would need to figure out a suitable subject for them
Happy Christmas mate to you and yours all the best mate 👍 🎄🥳🎁🎅
Happy holidays!
You made this kit look good, if it was me I probably would have binned it
Merry Christmas
Thanks! And to you!
I wonder how many of us at 1:38 were thinking "No, don't cut towards your fingers!" and expecting you to remove the top of your left forefinger?
i've only done that once lol
Wow. That makes the ancient Airfix IL-2 (which I'm rather fond of, being one of the earliest kits I ever made) look the epitome of sophistication. Sorry, but it's true.
lol i did think that the old airfix version would make this one look bad haha
I've done this one as well... And have to agree on everything! Yours looks good though!
Thanks 😊
I know this kit from when I was a kid in the 80s. To get a kit at all those times was a question luck. There weren't any modeling shops then. If you got luck, you could get kits at the newspaper selling points (called kiosk RUCHu in polish). There was only a limited choice of models, sometimes some Soviet or GDR ones. This special kit had a trick in the assembly. You had to warm a knife to melt the axle of the spinner after you put it into the ring. It worked and you could then glue the ring into the model. Afterwards you could spin the propeller.
thanks for the info! That is an interesting story :)
Interesting video on dealing with poor quality kits. I can tell I had an easier time building the old Airfix Sturmovik kit years ago.
Yeah, sometimes I think it is important to show people that it is ok to build bad kits :)
Hi Matt, interesting video on dealing with rubbish kits. I bought a Mistercraft Hurricane MkI which had the Hispano 20mm cannons moulded into the wings. Talk about getting their research completely wrong; it didn't even resemble the picture on the box art. I will use it as a test bench for airbrushing/ washes etc.
mistercraft kits are reboxes of other brands, so it will be the original company that messed up the design. Usually it is these lower quality kits that mistercraft rebox because they are cheap
I love the yellow!
thanks!
This is one of those kits that you ought to have just binned I think and I wouldn’t say that lightly. I hate the idea of wasting a kit but this may be one of those that just isn’t worth the time and attention.
Kudos for trying your up most to build it so we didn’t have to
Thanks, at the very least I hope it was an enjoyable video 😊
"Tomek do wozu, matko boska gówno ożyło." Great work!
Thanks 😊
You can make propeler spin: put this circle behind propeler without glue and then melt sticking out shaft with something hot. Then glue the circle to fusulage.
yeah, apparently that is a method according to earlier commenters
Oh my goodness that looks awful right from the start Matt, and you've only just opened the box. Good tip using a white base for yellow (or indeed red) if you want it to look good.
Yeah, this may well be the worst kit I've built this year
Hey Matt, since you definitely don't have enough folk correcting you in the comments, I decided to throw my own critique in as well:
Vallejo should be read in Spanish and pronounced 'Vay-ekh-o'.
I only discovered this after using the paints for two years, so no worries.
I’ll probably still say it wrong because I struggle to remember things like this 😂
I don’t even try to say German words because I’ll butcher them …
You've done a great job with that model 👏.
All companies have their rubbish models.
yeah, thanks for watching!
I think what you are supposed to do with the propeller axis is put it through the round back piece without glue and use a heated up flat screwdriver or a blade or something similar to squash the end of the axis poking through, creating a sort of plug and allowing the propeller to rotate inside the round piece.
yeah, this was mentioned previously in another comment but I dont think that it was annotated in the mistercraft instructions. Seems like a "dangerous" solution though when they could have just included one extra part for that on the sprue
@@ModelMinutes That's how ZTS Plastyk usually handled propellers and often wheels in their models. It isn't specifically mentioned in the original ZTS instructions either, but it is a technique they mention on the main page of the instructions as one of general directions how to approach a kit.
Are you doing a best and worse 2023 video Matt?
It’s not made yet but I hope so
I think im really going to have to pass on this kit lol. Have a Merry Christmas!
lol you too!
This is a model kit...
Don't know where to start to improve it, until would fit my expectations. I guess in the end I would have replaced the whole kit :P
lol yeah, i was tempted to just chuck this out :P
That ShKAS is grievously overscaled. 12.7mm size, 7.62mm firepower.
lol, they are just making sure no one goes near the tail :P
This is a kit issued in 1983, when the idea was that company provides the base, and modeler has plenty of Putty and files and sanding paper. First editions didn't have lot of flash. Back in the day it was eagerly awaited kit since Airfix offering had issues with shape and measurement. Sad part is that the kit is still offered without information of it's vintage. I remember building it in mid 80's. I'll send photos when I find them. Propeller , you supposed to flare the shaft with hot knife to make it rotate. Good, old modelling.
seems like a strange idea, to offer a really basic kit and expect the modeller to fill in the gaps. Sounds like "justifying" making a sub-par product to me
@@ModelMinutes Things were different 40-50 years ago, though, and the OP is right about the even older (1964) Airfix Il-2. I've built them both back in the day and although this ZTS one is crude it's far more accurate. The chord of the Airfix wings and tailplanes is way, way too small. Not their fault, they did their best with what little information was available at the time on Soviet aircraft and at least they were prepared to have a bash at a very significant type. I think I paid around a fiver for this kit in the late 90s. I wasn't impressed but I was far more annoyed when I bought the Revell Merlin-engined Halifax that was released in 2011. Beautifully moulded but shamefully, eye-catchingly inaccurate despite abundant reference material.
It's boxing day and I'm with my inlaws, watching you suffer. Merry (almost) Xmas
I hope you enjoy!
Done this several times under oryginal brand ZTS Plastyk, design in general fits its era, however mould quality is terrible, everything is wong. You can try vintage Heller kits repacked by Smer or Mistercraft ad you willspot massive difference. Both Mistercraft and Smer will have crappy instructios, but Smer offers quite decent decals. Hellers from '70s are mostly fun to build. I am just building Heller's Hawker Tempest by Smer, and it hase similar parts count like this IL2 but it really goes smooth.
Thanks for the info
What is the brand for that custom decal film you used?
umm, not sure. Just some generic type i got off amazon some time ago
I did it in the early 90's when it didn't have that much flash. 🙂
Generally - typical MisterCraft quality.
yeah, its a shame that they dont keep the mould quality as high
I built 1 of their Draken kits and while the instructions DO show instalation of a full cockpit interior they are NOT included so there is NO cockpit tub,NO control stick,NO instrument pamel and NO ejection seat.also built 1 of their Mig-29s and the canopy was the completley WRONG shape.
yeah, the instructions like to make the products look really detailed lol
@@ModelMinutes exactly...you end up looking for a part that eithet does not exist or if it does it looks nothing like the instructions .
I built this model when i was a child more than 30 years ago…. It brings memories
awesome!
Mistercraft always seem to re-work the instruction sheet, only to then give it stupid errors... WHY?!
lol yeah, they were kinda all over the place
I get the feeling they designed the instructions before the kit.
@@pandaphil or designed the instructions without looking at the kit
I Suggests to try the most "difficult"/worst model from the ZTS Plastyk 002 RWD-14B Czapla ( A nightmare from Polish primary school and a subject called artistic and technical classes ) I managed to put it correctly once 30 years ago, 2 years ago I tried again and Failed. Without 0.5 vodka I will not try again ;)
sounds like a challenge!
If I remember correctly for spinner shaft you are supposed to melt its end of with heated up knife.
hmm i dont recall seeing that in the instructions, but it seems like a likely reason. Still a bit of a weird step
@@ModelMinutes This was in ZTS Plastyk instructions if memory serves, Mistercraft probably could not add it since children+hot knifes=not a good idea
I have a couple of mistercraft kits myself and i have yo say not the best but foes the job thay lack a bit of detail but defenetly normal for there price
they are cheap, i'll give them that
Great job.
cheers!
Great job considering how awful mistercraft stuff is, always fun to see Polish service stuff too B)
thanks :D
I got a mr craft kit.... It was all flash, though for very little cash. I just can't bring myself to build it!
thats a shame :(
mistercraft rebox heller kits, but it's better to get the original heller kits for the better decals
i think the mould quality might be a little better from Heller too
Why are hobbycaft saling these kits at a higher price ?. They should be sold at 4 pounds no more
Probably because they want to make a profit and bring the products online with the other brands they sell so that the unsuspecting customer will purchase them
You really need to stop self punishing youself by buying subpar kits.
😂 yeah, don’t worry, I’ve treated myself to some nice guys for 2024
Yeah most mistercraft kits are pretty bad there are some that are not that bad imo like their p-51 but i think it is fair for the price their are being sold i think they are good if you want to try out some new technique like weathering or varnish or some painting techniques they are perfect for it since they are cheap but actually building it and displaying it hell no
I built their P51B a few years back, it was better than this but still had issues
Just by looking at this kit ,it looks horrible, nevertheless another great model minutes video
thanks very much!
@@ModelMinutes I got a 1960s tooling of a 1/32 zero , checked the fit, it's decent, wish me luck with it
Matt that kit was horrible everything kind of look boxy detail was poor fit was bad like the canopy was kind of out shape and kind of cloudy not clear plus the gaps were bad fit issue landing gear was very poor I would think they would add some polit tube to the wing thank for info on this kit matt I'll buy the Tamiya kit
lol yeah, definitely worth looking at an alternative
MisterCraft kits are torture for the modeller :(
lol they are sometimes
Save yourself the trouble and buy a better quality IL-2 like Tamiya or the Zvezda kit.
Yup
I have the Zvezda one and can confirm it is a representation of the IL-2... It's alright
In the late 70's this model was produced by a Polish company; ZTS PLASTYK. So the moldings are almost 50 years old.
pretty sure the age of the tooling is mentioned in the video
Amazing finish despite being a turd of kit
thanks!
Пластик от Микро 72 ...польская была фирма...🤔
hmmm
i aint buying another mistercraft kit again
They are a bit inconsistent
@@ModelMinutes i noticed lol i had the L4H Piper Cub at the moment its resting in an unfinished state till i muster up finishing it lol but im painting Yellow or Red and ditching the camo army look as simply cant be bothered i got a 1:32 Harrier GR1 and a 1:48 i think F18 top gun and a load others waiting lol
Matt............You're a much better model builder than this. If you'd taken your time it would have come out better. A good builder can make even a poor kit look good. A good build is a result of time and attention to detail.
I could have spent weeks working on this kit, but what would be the point?
As mentioned a lot in the video, I just wanted this out of the stash so I could buy better kits, hence why this is a “back to basics build”
Perhaps but when your starting point is so poor then there's only gonna be so much you can do to make it better. Diminishing returns and all starts coming into play hard with kits like this.
I got the mister craft hunter and god it was awful
yeah i have heard that it isn't great
I love how They have copied Italeri packaging
how so? The artwork looks completely different as far as i can tell
@@ModelMinutes the artwork, but look the upper parte of the box
hmm i'm not so sure it is "copying" - i mean how many places are they going to put their information? So mistercraft and Italeri have both got some bands across the top to put their text on . . .
other brands have had similar styles in the past, i just think there are only so many places to put the info on the box and they just have a similar way of doing it at the moment @@warmerthread983officialcha9
This is old ZTS plastyk sprues, tooling from 1980 ties.... So no tamiya quality here...
Exactly
This model isn't complete. Designer of this kit died during work and this is a like prototype.
apparently so, according to other comments
Nice build and review of a poor kit
thanks!
Guys - dont by MisterCraft-Kits! they are a big lie in a too expensive box...
I think YT bugged and didnt leave my comment - the best Mistercraft kit I have experienced is the fairey fulmar
Tamiya is a better kit....
i think anything at this point is a better kit lol
Awful. Just really awful,
yes, it really is
..aweful, yes - aweful modeler!......
not seen any of my other builds?
Edit: - sorry, thought you were calling my model building skills "awful", but on re-reading i realise now that you meant that you were full of awe! So thanks very much for being aweful of my work :)
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