If You Ain't With Me, You're Against Me!
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Xisuma ponders the scenarios of people with different views working together in society. Is someone who had a different life, and because of that has a different opinion than you, is that really your enemy?
Taken From The Hermitcraft Seven (54) Livestream 21/07/20 • Hermitcraft Seven (54)...
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Ironically, being proved wrong makes you feel dumb, but you end up smarter because of it.
I have a huge problem with this. I often argue with people even when I know that I'm proven wrong. It's really bad of me but it's something that is hard to avoid.
@@Ismail-db1vj I don't understand the benefits of pretending to be right after being proven wrong. I would think it just makes you seem ignorant.
It may just be the people you argue with though. if they make fun of you for not knowing things, then it is best to not argue with them. I'm glad you realize this is a problem though.
That guy there It’s actually pretty common to try to convince yourself that you are right even when proven wrong. It takes a lot of effort for a lot of people to admit that they were wrong in the first place because that’s just how the brain works.
@@strbourne Convincing yourself that you are right is completely understandable to me. what I don't get is knowing that you're wrong and pretending that you're still right just to win the argument.
Humility is an under-rated virtue.
Only a Sith deels in absolutes.
Ya beat me to it
That statement is an absolute!
@@Nugcon Well what if I'm a Sith?
Dang it
Vantoi135 I will do what I must
Yes, I definitely agree. I think the “if you’re not for me, you’re against me” attitude exists on both sides of political spectrum and really just contributes to increased polarization and a refusal to compromise 😕
Yeah I definitely agree, in America both political parties are always just arguing over every problem that comes up rather than working together to come up with a reasonable solution
Yeah it's kinda stupid, but it's part of us being humans to sometimes fight with each other. Eitherwat I also want to say that you're like the only one hear who's not making memes and is actually talking about the video lol.
Vantoi135 I wish that candidates would do presidential discussions instead of debates. That way people within the same party can learn from each other, and people of differing views can understand each other better.
That way leaders can compromise better, and the metaphorical ‘pendulum’ doesn’t just keep swinging back and forth.
Dominoot I definitely agree. I think one of the issues, though, is that true discussions, with thoughtful engagement and compromise, don’t play well on television (or on online video or social media). There are some exceptions (such as Xisuma says 😄), but visual media tends to favor entertainment and confrontation over thinking and discussion, and so media outlets (no matter how they skew politically) are less likely to do the sort of thing you recommend, just by the nature of their format. Neil Postman wrote a really good book on the matter, called “Amusing Ourselves to Death”, that though published in the mid-80’s us still super relevant today; I would highly recommend it.
True. The thing is, most people agree on most things. I've had furious, table-banging screaming arguments with friends where we suddenly realise: "Wait, are we vehemently agreeing with each other? Oh. Ooooooooooh."
Wedge issues are a b!tch.
It's nice to hear what you have to say about things like this. Also roads looking good so far :)
Hahaha
I wan't to send an early comment because I'm here early, but I don't know what I would say. I could say you are a Huge inspiration to me, or I could say you provide the highest quality Minecraft entertainment. I could even say I have similar hobbies. I love eating healthy and exercising and I'm glad you do too. You have such a great mindset and talk in such a concise and clear way. There are too many good things to say about you X. Have a good day!
Aww the way in that you wrote tgis makes it sound so sweet! :))
A good quote I’ve heard recently is by Bill Nye, paraphrased. “Everyone you’ll ever meet knows something you don’t, and has experienced something you haven’t.” This is a good mindset when discussing topics, you can always learn something from someone.
Being able to understand or willing to accept others viewpoints is a great way to exchange ideas. It makes me mad sometimes when I see politicians get organized to debate about a topic, because debating forces you to defend your ideas, and doesn’t leave much room to consider others. With people that could potentially lead a country, considering others ideas is super important. There should be political discussions, not debates.
Edit: Thanks for showing this in the latest stream/podcast thing X! I look forward to seeing you interact with the comments more!
When you said Bill Nye I couldn't take it seriously lol, but yh that's a good quote
Dominoot I’m curious as to what you know that many people don’t?
Bill Nye sucks 👎
@@_-.G.-_ he was kinda cool.
Was
@@gremlinfifty2308 He's just an old bag and doesn't know what he's talking about most of the time.
Xisuma you are doing so good in educating all of the people into what should be right ... the way that you are talking about it is easy for anyone understand ...thank you
Respectfully, Xisuma is not the end all, be all in terms of "what should be right". He's just one person with an opinion who's admitted that he's had to change his opinions at several points through his life. These videos are intended to drive discussion, not for you to accept whatever he says as automatically right.
@@DM0M0 oh, so is only opposite responses acceptable here? Ohhhhkay.
@@DM0M0 also, how is that respectfully? I just agreed with what he said and you tried to knock me back on that. Good luck there, bud.
@@seriouslolos2675 I say "respectfully" so other people who see this comment understands that my intent is positive instead of just assuming that I was trying to be negative.
The whole purpose of this channel is to drive discussion about important/sensitive topics. However, most of the comments on these videos amount to "You're smart, Xisuma and I trust everything you're telling me" even though that goes against the very nature of the videos. There will be three comments that actually discuss the topic of the video and then another hundred that are just talking about how great X is (and he is but that's not the point). Understand that even though he is someone with a platform, that doesn't mean you should rely on only him to form your opinions. Most of the viewers have never thought about the issues that X is talking about and just agree without putting any real thought into it.
@@DM0M0 you have a good point actually
A little thing on the "us vs them" mentality is that often it creates a false dichotomy where you either have to fully agree with us or else you're against us. This often misrepresents the actual situation where someone would be able to share differing opinions but still support the entity or group. This misrepresentation of this situation could lead to the person being blackmailed through guilt to put aside there opinions and join the group or entity with obedience. Or another possibility could be that they are cast out or ditched because they didn't give in and this can leave someone hurt mentally, physically, emotionally, etc. That lack of choice can often lead to people choosing the first option because as social creatures some of us heavily depend on those things and we don't want to be cast out if we don't understand what may be outside the group or entity's sphere of influence. These false dichotomies can be used by cults, politicians, everyday people you might know, and even yourself. Therefore it is important to be cautious of these fallible arguments because they can misrepresent a situation which in the process can cloud our understanding of it and can lead to manipulation of individuals.
this is exactly why i hate the party system in the U.S. in order to get any position of power in the government, you have to choose a side. and it's not that there is a shortage of people in the middle, it's just that they don't go to vote because they don't think it will matter. if every independent voted for a candidate, i guarantee they would win. it's just that our political society has made us believe that independents can't win, which is ridiculous.
@@neebusjeebus9100 Here in Argentina its very similar. You are in one side, and if not, you are automaticaly in the othe. Every side could have strenghts and faults, but the people inside de groups only see the strenghts, and dont even look at what could be improved in their side, or whats its better in the other side. If you critizice one action of a group, you are considered an enemy, and part of the other group. And because of this political polarization, there are no viable options in the middle (nobody votes them because it wouldnt matter), and it all resumes to votting the less of two evils (corruption, corruption everywere lol)
Sadly this only makes the situation worse, because diferent ideas and autocritic became more a more inusual, and that are the best tools for improvement :p
"If you aren't with me, then you're against me" is a great way of ending up alone; because no-one is ever going to agree with you on everything.
Only a sith deals in absolutes!
I will do what I must.
You will try
Anakin chancellor palpatine is evil!
From my point of view, the jedi are evil
That's an absolute statement
2:02 how you placed that lantern annoys me more than anything xD
This is a quote from the monogatari series by nisio isin "You may hate me, but that doesnt necessarily make me hate you"
Christians have a similar thing: pray for your enemies.
I strongly disagree with "beter learn wrong then nothing" because people generally don't want to relearn stuff.
As a Serbian I usually get labelled as a terrorist, lowlife, peace of crap... People have "learned" during the '90s that we are bad and now are not accepting that we aren't bad people. That is getting to me lately, and even worse is that I simply CANNOT do anything (especially not with facts) to change their minds.
It's in the American political parties' interest to keep people divided. Moderate voters might cross party lines if their own party's candidate isn't very good, so you have to make sure you reduce the moderate mindset as much as possible with extreme positions, and encourage your followers to act the same. The news also likes to be able to dumb information down and sensationalize stuff rather than explain it in detail, which frankly most people are too stupid and impatient to listen to. It might not be as bad in other countries, but I think America influences the world, and that includes in the bad ways. Though this might be human nature to some degree, so maybe it's an easy thing to spread naturally.
X, I'm in my fifties with boys in there twenties. Everything you have said resonates with me so much. Tears in my eyes. My family stands for everything you have said.
This made me think about the idea of "if you're not with the majority, then you're this or that". Like how with BLM and LGBT stuff: if you don't agree with it, then you're either racist or homophobic. I hate that ideology.
I dont know how to say how much I agree with this, I've had multiple problems with the people with this mindset.
RE: Co-operation, something that's interesting to look at is how societies and ancient tribes cared for their sick and disabled.
Lots of chatter these days about awful stuff regarding people that some would see as being... not worth keeping? Well, historically, we've cared for each other. Even if there's nothing tangible to gain from it, or if some would see that act as being a net-negative to care for them, we did it anyway. It's an important aspect of being human, to want to care for those who need it.
We are not solitary beings. We live cooperatively and rely on each other. We're all better for it.
We live in a society
"if you're ain't with me, you're against me" VS "we agree to disagree"
THEN YOU ARE LOST
Warning | caps.
Are you still with Mista tho??
This is the end for you mt master
@@irl1966 This ain't Roblox kid.
We live in a world of multiple reality. Do we still live in the same world? Yes.
Very often there are also contradictions or diversities within oneself. Does it have to mean we are fighting against ourselves, not necessary. Having harmony when there is conflict or different extreme - that's what wisdom is.
PS. In terms of attitude containing both with me and against me, there are "seek common ground while reserving differences" which aim for peace vs. "seek differences while reserving commonality" which set ground on uniqueness and possibility. Both can be important in different circumstances with different goals in mind.
Thanks TH-cam, 12 hours late on the notification...
Well, if you don't agree you also don't have to be enemies, yall can be neutral with one another. I think it's only right to fight back in a self defense way.
After looking at thumbnail i find it annoying since someone is a dick and says something let's say racist or homophobic ect then people will get mad at them and I say why not explain the problem, that will make it worse then they get really mad since I'm not on their side but both of them hate me then lol. I try to listen to everyone's views and take them into account, I wish other people could try to do that too
I did make a 4-bit discrete transistor computer but it was so fidly and I prefer programming. Normally robots make stuff like this now a days
My opinion is that people actually want to do something to some one but once they do it they get bored kinda like
If um team star beat g team as soon as the prank war started
There wouldn’t be much hype
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7:17 I think the creation of the atomic bomb isn't evil. It's scientific progress that generated all kinds of new breakthroughs and ideas. Pressing the red button and launching this device to destroy things and kill people, that is evil and doesn't require that much effort.
Strongly agree, like planes, they weren't created as a form of mass murder but now they have been mastered and used for war, which again could be argued inst evil. Also you have to take into account "is something evil if its a neccesary evil and all other decisions are worse"
Problem is, a bomb is *always* designed to kill people. Nuclear bombs as well. There is no other use (at the moment at least) where a nuclear bomb would be helpful.
@@marcellomaramigi7246 deterance? I know it's a weak argument but something worth considering
@@oliverworley5162 that is true to consider, but if nobody had nukes, your didn't really need deterance. Also, I mean really useful stuff, like explosives that get used to demolish buildings or things like that.
@@marcellomaramigi7246 yeah, I've always been conflicted aboun the British nuclear weapon project, sure keeping the nucleur subs is expensive, and I wouldn't want to use them but it is a good deterance anagjns war, giving us stronger diplomatic leverage, but then Germany had no nuclear weapons and is highly influencial, so I don't know where I stand, and like you said other explosives can be used for excevation and other things.
I know this video was posted awhile ago, but I wanted to mention. The argument "If you ain't with me, you're against me!" isn't for every opinion that person has, it could just be one thing. What about a scenario where by doing nothing, you're helping the suppresser. By saying nothing, and somebody is a victim, if you say nothing, then you're not helping anybody but the person suppressing the victim. If you aren't with them, then you're against them, because you're actively hurting them. Being a bystander is just as bad as being the abuser.
“The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything.”
― Albert Einstein
I love you! There are very few things you say I don't agree with. I'm fully behind you and you're opinion on this topic (Even if you did edit out my comment. 😰You are a beautiful human being and I'm not talking looks. lol
This subject is kinda too sensitive for me, so I don’t feelin like joining in on this argument.
But I noticed a change/something off from his voice, either its just the quality or he’s really tired with things these days?
I think it’s that he’s tired, I mean… damn he works hard.
I remember X saying he enjoys working hard, but if he is genuinely tired, hopefully he wouldn't put the pressure of that statement onto himself. If he needs a break I'm sure we would understand.
I do think we all need breaks from time to time
@@BareTuna exactly yeah, I'm just kinda concerned about it because he kinda pushin' himself a bit
I despise this black-or-white mentality so much.
It completely dismisses the possibilities of duality, neutrality, diversity, uncertainty, apathy, empathy, individuality, and probably more more.
Opinions and arguments are so rarely two sided. Imagine telling someone that if their favourite colour isn't blue, then it must be red. That stance would be deranged. Yet some people will gladly take that stance when it comes to their beliefs.
I think what makes it worse as well - this scenario typically appears from people in religions and movements who want to aggressively pressure you or guilt you into aligning with their beliefs instead of giving you a good reason to consider their opinion, which is a damning truth because it regularly alienates people from movements that exist for the sole purpose of uniting people.
The world is a complex place, if you think of your phone for example, your phone been designed, the metal's in it have been mined, processed and shaded by other machines that have also been designed and made by other people, then it's also been programmed by people using other platforms like android or apple, then it has the interface designed. And a lode of other stuff, so there will have been 1000s of people just to design and make one phone, and that's not including all the apps and the internet which is on it and the fonts. And that's just one thing. Which phones have also been evolving for a long time so 100,000 of people to make just the phone that you have.
There's an short essay called _I, Pencil_ about this very thing. It explains where all the different parts of a pencil come from and how many hundreds of people all individually contributed to you having that one small, simple thing that makes your life a little bit easier. Good stuff.
What about people on the opposing side or opinion that don’t actually know what they’re talking about? Not as in how the opposing sides are talking about something like BLM, and one is thinking of the movement and the other is thinking of the organization, no, I’m talking about those who don’t actually understand what they’re advocating for, or the topic. Humans are emotional creatures, we are driven by our emotions and it’s very easy for everyone to just do things without knowing why.
"If you're not with me, you're against me!" Only Sith deals in absolutes...
I will do what i must
The thing here is that some things aren't up for "opinions". Injustice and inequality (ex. racism) shouldn't be up for opinions since at the core of it, it's wrong. It's not up for debate. There's a quote that even when you're "neutral" in a situation of injustice, you're siding the oppressor by your silence, let alone having an "opinion" siding the oppressor outright. So in a way, there are certain conditions where you're either with justice or you're against it.
When it comes to these things, it's no longer a discussion about opinion. These are people who were personally affected and persecuted by injustice enforced by these "opinions". Most of them don't have the privilege to compromise their opinions and decently negotiate with a system that failed them on the basis of these "opinions".
please please please I beg of you change the thumbnail to the star wars quote
lmao
What star wars quote exactly
@@slickrick8279 If youre not with me, then youre my enemy
I revisited this video and found out that I accidentally disliked it
A lot of people see thing as either completely black or completely white, but that is actually very rare in real life. Very few people are conservative/liberal on everything, very few people are all good or all bad, and diminishing anything to « one opinion or the other » creates more problems than it solves.
> A lot of people see thing as either completely black or completely white, but that is actually very rare in real life.
Reminds me of a quote from a tedtalk, "He's a gray area in world that doesn't like gray areas."
I agree with what you`re saying on the most part, but sometimes you have to draw the line. For example if someone was being homophobic to me, then its not a debate; im not gonna try and convince you that i deserve basic human rights and respect. I`d assume it would be the same for people dealing with racism and other forms of persecution. I try and avoid this point of view as much as possible, but if you dont think I have the right to exist, I`m not going to sit and listen to your point of view - its just gonna make me feel like crap
I really like how these videos actually create well thought out discussions in the comments. It’s not normal for TH-cam.
Only the Sith deal in absolutes 😉
I will do what I must...
Waaa epic leap super cool lightsaber duel
Then you are a sith.
@@captainfordo556 this line... sent shivers down my spine when I heard it as a young man the arrogance the pain the anger in his voice.
The 5m13 people that disliked took this the wrong way
Your very last point I can get behind and firmly agree with, I really liked this discussion. I find it very enjoyable to listen to your debates and neutrally form an option that can be swayed in either way. You've made this into an awesome channel X! Keep it up!
It’s over Xisuma, I have the high ground.
I agree with your points. Maybe should try to find someone who thinks differently about racism etc. and learn from them.
Yeah but that goes both ways. If someone is being a racist than you also have to hear what there saying.
@Vantoi135 well of course. That is a part of listening.
@@renderproductions1032 I disagree. If someone is being clearly racist, why would I give them my time when they don't value my existence?
@DM0M0: It is their time they would be wasting too. “Yousa point is well seen.” But, some people could still want to talk with someone else.
@@renderproductions1032 That's where the attitude of "You're not with me and you're clearly against me therefore why should I talk to you?"
These videos make X's videos builds even more admirable
because it gives them a human touch
Why can't people just get along?
I can't meme but my mind went to star wars ep 3 "IF YOU'RE NOT WITH ME, THAN YOU'RE MY ENEMY"😭😭😭😭
Gooood, let the memes flow through you.
Only a meme maker deals in absolutes. I will do what I must. ⚔️
@@Kazavop The memes have brought piece, justice, security and freedom to the internet.
Han, Emperor Palpatine is evil!
@@carddu from my point of view, the jedis are evil
This attitude as a whole, on both sides, is honestly just dumb as hell. I had a friend who went out of her way to pretty much shun me and guilttrip me into feeling bad for simply voicing my opinion on a thing. And it isnt even a radical one, I simply disagreed with them and even wanted to talk to them about it. Made multiple attempts to talk to them because I wanted the conversation and each time I was simply ignored because "I shouldnt have to talk to you about this".
Yeah, me and my friends disagree on politics and I like to disgusts so I can learn, they on the other had don't take the arguments seriously or they shun me, I've went days with out a mere hello from then simply because I want yo learn. Some friends are OK but they aren't political minded, or keep their opinions to themselves, it's the vocal ones who don't want to be challange that really get me
I think it's very important to make sure that feedback stays constructive and casual, if you're in an argument and you realize you may be wrong, you might not want to fall back on your opinion out of fear of being "humiliated". Even though the person on the opposite side of the argument WANTS you to admit you're wrong, so you'd probably be totally fine just saying "ah man, you have a good point there, I think you're right". Really interesting how that works.
I'm not a fan of the idea that humans are a destructive species. It's very true that human destroy but it's very rarely for the sake of destruction. When human hunted animals to extinction, it was for survival, most probably didn't do it for fun.
"If are not with me, you are against me" , I can see that mentaly grow in a society that struggle to survive. If we don't do this, we'll die, and if you don't contribute then people will think you want everyone to die. You don't want that, but it may happen. It is a tool to readicate risky ideas.
In a modern society, that mentaly is pretty redundant. Sure, someone's opinion may chagne your life somehow, but it's not threatening survival.
Look where anikin is now for example,
His wife ded,
Not because he choked her,
(Not sexual choking)
Because she lost the will 2 life?
B r u h
I saw people talking about starwars and it made me think of this, some say only foolish people believe in good and bad, and sometimes it's true, to think if someone doesn't agree with you, they are bad, that is foolish. However I think good and bad does exist, like murdering someone is bad, and idk what to say is good without being contrevisal lmao
xisuma I think about this and I think it's kinda funny. The USA was made basically because we wanted to escape British taxes ... Yet the USA haves way more taxes annd taxes everything now lol just one of them weird facts I think about.
Really random, but it's cool to me that I was watching the stream where the content came from. Always great discussions
There is a theory I came up with called the Madeira cake principle - For example, Xisama and I are both going to make a cake each the steps that we might take to make the cake could be different even if the end result is intended to be the same - Xisuma might use his family recipe that has been handed down from generation to generation and mixes the mixture for 20 minutes and does not use lemon or lime for flavouring where I use Lime and only mix it for 10 mins - I have heard there are arguments on making a Madeira cake.
You might not like Maderia cake or even like cake in general, which is perfectly fine as it, not the 'cake' it is more of the approach that people use when carrying out an activity. We have developed as species because we have done things differently somethings work better than others some will agree with that is the case and others will not. Xisuma points out its cooperation and the sharing of ideas that is key ' have you tried doing it this way?' approach.
This can be applied to subject matters just as religion and other sensitive subjects - there is a possibility that people will not agree with this and in advance, I would say That is the point I will happily listen to someone else point of view.
Really gotta say, how much i like your talk videos and how much you showed me how to see things differently in some cases :D
this is called, the false dillema fallacy, its a type of logical fallacy used very commonly and in the recent times, people are being drawn apart and more inclined to use irrational arguments like this, rather than acknowledging that there are inbetweens.
There is a show on Netflix I'll have to find the game but it shows how everything Is connected it's been pretty decent so far ain't finished it . I'll find the name and post it later lol
As someone who is very much a centrist politically it is definitely not more prevalent on the right. The current left have this problem more than anyone from my observations.
Only a Sith deals in absolutes. I will do what I must.
If Xisuma doesnt have a podcast he should seriously start one
1+1=2?
I have been proven wrong apparently
Your very knowledgeable I look up to people like that
I could build a computer from scratch, just give me a few years and a whole lot of monetary recourses
And a coltan mine
Both sides have the same issue. Right and left. An example of leftist "ain't with us your against us" would be BLM. If you don't say BLM but ALM your against them even if your leftist but you believe that all lives matter. It all comes down to mob culture. We act differently in crowds than we do as individuals.
The issue with ALM is that it's used by people who genuinely do not care about lives in general as a way to distract from the problem.
When one house is on fire you don't go and tell the fire department to throw water on the neighbouring houses. Yeah all houses matter, but the one currently on fire is the one that needs help. Same thing for lives; all lives matter, but it's african-american lives in particular who suffer at the hands of the police.
Nobody is opposed to All Lives Matter as an idea. People are opposed to the ones using it as a way to hide their racism.
@@snowcold5932 Yeah no I'm sorry but the 2 houses case doesn't actually transfer to the real world. Here if you say black lives matters your implying that it is only them who matter. I understand the idea that at this moment in time they need more help than others but what about all the homeless, gay and trans people, Hispanics? BLM is a corrupt organisation created to push an anti-Capitalist agenda. ALM has also been used by innocent people who have then had their lives taken by rioters for saying the phrase. My mother always told me 2 things growing up. "Treat others how you want to be treated" and "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me". I think the world needs more of this attitude and do without organisations like BLM who are only causing more divide and more hate for police who risk their lives every day to keep us all safe. There are certain people out there that benefit from all the chaos in the black communities and they are the same ones as the ones who are saying that BLM is not bad. Your just in the wrong place at the wrong time and are playing into their hands. ALM is used by some who don't mean it the same as BLM is used by some who don't mean it.
Prequel memes incoming, I guess.
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I agree. We should all curoperrate. 0:54
On a serious note though. I do agree with you, but I think a lot of people just take this cooperation for granted. And I've also found that I myself have to learn to be more accepting of other people's oppinions. Luckily I'm quite young so I have some time to do so and I've adopted a new sort of motto: "I don't care what you think. I care why you think it." To more try to understand other people's viewpoints.
I was getting serious Obi-Wan Kenobi vibes when I saw this in my subscription videos
One thing, there's always a last step.
Only Sith deals in absolutes
Only a sith would be this absolute
To me, that attitude is one that creates unnecessary grief, hate and conflict. Those are things I have grown tired of, so if someone offends me, I look at it more in a way of trying to not feel offended about it instead of looking at it in a way of seeking conflict in everything and wanting to get revenge on every little thing. Conflict tires me and I try to avoid it, even if that means "capitulating" to the other person or whatever (or at least it's a mindset that's grown in me, even though I sometimes get very competitive and conflict-oriented still). That attitude of "if you're not with me, you're against me!" on the other hand is one that looks for conflict; it is like thinking "What things I am currently not offended by could and should offend me?" and "what enemies could I create here?" all the time.
Only a sith deals in absolutes
*laughs in “War On Terror”*
5:12 this is definitely something I needed to hear. I used to be so confused why some around me looked down on others with different opinions. It's only recently that I've been able to break away from that.
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The point is to not butt in, otherwise you made an enemy by yourself
I don’t think you really got the point of the question but it was a good lesson eitherway
Yeah, I’ve heard people (Amber Hikes, the legend) suggest replacing the term “calling out” with “calling in//calling forward,” b/c if someone feels like they’re being ‘called out’ they’re probably going to get defensive, but calling forward is more welcoming/less blame-y.
Also wanted to say (only based on this edited clip) idk if you really went in the direction that the comment from chat about persecution was talking about. The way I understood it, they were saying its understandable/different for someone in a persecuted group to not trust anyone outside of that group as a defense measure. In my experience though, most people who belong to one or more persecuted groups definitely understand that not everyone is a bigot and rarely would claim that (except as a joke). It did also remind me of the anti-racism movement which is one case where I think its valid to say “if you aren’t actively anti-racist, then you’re part of the problem” because of the extent to which racism is embedded in our world; it is very easy to indirectly harm people by being complicit in not checking what brands one buys from or what information one spreads etc. Hope that makes sense 💜
Wow, those type of people really annoy me...
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
Since racism must be learned, wouldn’t the best way to get rid of it be to not teach it? When you look at the media or go to school, they tell you that racism is a big problem, and show you evidence to back up that statement. With this in people’s heads, they start to look for it. When I was young, I didn’t see race at all, same as any kid who isn’t taught anything about it. But as I got older and started hearing about racism at school and in the news I began to see colour more and more. When a person sees race, they will then treat them differently based on what they have heard about that race. And since we are told that they are oppressed, we give them sympathy and pity. This sympathy could lead to them getting a job over someone more qualified or getting into a university with lower marks. Basically affirmative action. Which takes away opportunity from other people who performed better based on their race, which is racist. What I’m about to say may be stupid and I probably haven’t thought it through enough but based on the fact that no one is born racist and that it must be taught, if we just remove any language of race from media and school and thing of that sort, then the next generation will not be at all racist. Ex. Black man shot by police becomes man shot by police. One problem I see coming up is that we can’t and shouldn’t Erase history. Again I haven’t fully thought this through as I should have so please don’t tear me to shreds, I’m basically thinking out loud but in text format. I hope this makes at least a little sense, and people other than me can understand it.
Sadly racism can be taught by being victimized by other racists. My one friend became racist when he got jumped by a group of kids just because he was walking through the "wrong neighborhood ". Because thay were calling him racist names, he now paints everone of that skin color with a broad brush of hatred. 😔
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I swing on the left side of philosophies. I get called a terrorist at work often and most friends due to it. So annoying
This podcast is even more woke then Joe Rogans podcast. You guys should colab and wake up the rest of the world together.
If you are not with me, then you are my enemy....
Only a sith deals in absolutes. I will do what I must.
Lyreoz You will try....
buzzanut this is the end for you my master
I’d be interested to know your thoughts on tolerance when the person/idea you’re trying to tolerate directly contradicts your existence. For example, a black person tolerating a racist or a gay person tolerating a homophobe. I don’t think it’s productive or the right thing to do at all to hurl insults right back at those people, but I do think it’s acceptable to not want anything to do with them and to not speak to them. Basically, how do you tolerate intolerance?
I think that this would a be pretty intresting thing to hear from X!
Amanda Fraire Maybe I’ll actually catch one of his live-streams sometime and I could ask. I hardly ever catch his streams because of time zones :(
i actually disagree on the most part. For example with such polarising issues such as racism, i think it’s perfectly fine for someone to say if you’re not completely against racism, then ur for it. Of course with smaller issues, there’s nuance to the subject, but when talking about big issues in the world, it’s completely okay for people to not talk or align with people who have differing political views to them.