Folding down the side arms puts them into free fall for a short time. This reduces the weight and the spring can lift the entire structure briefly. Of course, this would also happen without rotation. The "gyroscopes" - which are actually flywheels - are completely insignificant for this, but merely ensure the equally insignificant rotation of the entire rotor. If you theoretically attached a lamp with a power source to the top of the rotor, you could also see this in the dark.
Yup, that's highschool physics, the gyros aren't even needed for that. The heavy arms swing down, and the conservation of momentum makes.the lighter hub rise.
Again, as usual, people forget that the gyros go up and push _lots_ of weight without the pivot going down! All other Newton doctrines, _including the third_ like centrifugal and centripetal forces doesn’t matter any more.
@@debunkified the spring doesn't compress visibly when the gyros go up because they do it slowly. It's when they drop fast, that you can notice the center part jumping. Maybe with more sensitive and well callibrated measuring devices, you wouldn't get glitches like that one.
@@ampeyro Already done them, just haven’t showed them here. It’s clear the pivot does not move in the opposite direction. Yes ok let’s say there is an opposite and equal reaction at the pivot, fine, but it does not _move in the opposite direction_ whatsoever. The gyros *orbit* around the pivot.
@@debunkified i think we have a linguistic problem here. You say "didn't move" but I'm asking how many newtons, for how many seconds and at how many Rpm? Maybe a graph plotting different gyro swing rates X motion in the vetical axis... Like Adam Savage said "the difference between screwing around and science is writing it down" (And with numbers, graphs and statistics if possible)
The gyros should have electric motors and brush connections to the power source and freely spin in middle aka a brush barring connector in the middle of the shaft and motor on the middle top but the real question is will it levitate with out a stand or hover on wind like a hover craft instead of the spring
Incorrect. The Jaros all of them need to be fixed either with a gear system or some sort of chain system. You guys just don’t understand the sheer amount of resistance these machines are fighting against assuming they are designed and working correctly to achieve Lift. you will know when you’re getting somewhere when something breaks from too much force. Make it stronger, make it lighter, try again!
Ezekiel's chariot has four Spinning Wheels (four wheels within wheels) on each corner perhaps four spinning in a certain direction creates Anti-Gravity
Actually, I'm working on that right now. The principle is to try 4 gyros at right angles to each other, spinning around one way or the other, then flexing them upwards to see the combined angular momentum will pull upward.
When you move the gyros ccw + UP, they exert force inward + Down, spring compresses down and moves back to its org position (at the strt of vid) When the gyros go down , opposite effect , CCW + UP Please refer to dynamics of static systems and you will get the idea Gravity is not salient to Earth, rather it is a feature of Star A i.e Saggitarius A experienced on Earth So where does gravity go in space , in the large void btw, and the big stars distant from earth, why are they distant from star A if they have big masses And the prime question Why is the universe expanding, defying the basic principle of gravitational pull towards the center of the universe which has the biggest of all masses 😂😂 There are only two forces at work, compression and expansion, on THE medium ether, or dark energy as quantum goofs call it, which brings about every physical law and matter into existenc Compression/Expansion, Peak trough, wave, particle, frequency, wavelength, whatever you call it Read Walter Russell
Yes I will look into that more. The universe appears to be expanding because the universe is just a baby black hole born from a parent black hole. These are inter dimensional. So you are saying that if rotated ccw and then lifted up or down another force appears or what? Or are you just talking about normal gyroscopic physics.
@ it’s the combination of gyroscopic and centrifugal. This allows the whole thing to rise higher than where it started. Gyroscopic force lifts the gyros while centrifugal lifts the pivot.
I think by letting the wheels lift reduces the upward component of thrust (it becomes like two spinning tops). You can see the weight reduce when they become horizontal.
Yes the gyros are lifted while a horizontal force is applied. This horizontal force is then basically converted into a 90 degree ‘vertical’ reaction. Thank you for the kind comment, it is appreciated. Have a nice one.
A change in acceleration will yield a weight gain or loss. When the finger makes contact with the device, a change in acceleration is present (I.e. deceleration or acceleration). This change allows for an upwards or downwards force to take place but only by the change in speed.
whats amazing is that this is just one piece of a grander aspect that shifts depending on the different shapes and forms that come into play. For example, tapping into the different points of inertia and building something to tap into that into the other and repeat, it gets fun but also simple...the simplist designs can be very high tech in their functionality based on the builders wisdom,...Namaste
It cam be made better by replacing wheels with torus filled with mercury and ferrium substance. Electromagnets will move it horizontally. Rotational speed should be ariund 250.000 rotations per second in the pressure of 600.000 Pascals and in the -273.15° Celsius. Same concept can be used to make brake system changing move force to rotational one to reduce the effects of the car or elevator impact.
Good idea I think what if we build that think in a very high rpm rate motor and we can make the connection with gold to the rod for the another two motor and we can skip the limit of the cable , if is it really working we must think how we can power the another 2 spinning motor to the maximum we must understand first how this thing make energy
Great idea if you start from the moon. All you need is a changing mass when there is no gravity. You need like a swing but one that only has a kid on it when goes up and no mass when it goes back, so the moving mass keeps adding motion. The changing mass happens when you rotate the wheels
@@debunkified For sure, but in a vacuum you only need it once(twice). And it will keep spinning till the same energy it needed to get moving is used to counter it.
@@debunkified There is little to none energy loss without gravity, so if your going 1000mp/h you wil keep that speed for a looooong time. To brake you need the same amount of energy that was used to make you move. Mass is only slowed down by other mass, because mass means gravity. Einsteins E = mc2 is the formula that solves mass and energy in a vacuum.
Hello. Simply put, it has a fixed stationary point which holds the whole structure from moving the opposite direction and thus cancelling out the acceleration. In order to acheive independant lift it will need some kind of counter force, just like what a tail rotor on a helicopter does. You would think that a gyroscope operating at around 90 degrees or slightly offset might do it, but the speeds at which they operate may not be acheivable with current technologies. Thus the energy required for lift may be far greater than something that uses airflow for thrust.
No, do some actual reading through the comments so I don't have to repeat this for the millionth time, it is *_NOT THE SPRING_* pushing anything up, it is the combination of centrifugal and gyroscopic, use your thinking cap. The pivot remains stationary.
@@PaweAdamowicz1981 To show the single cycle process. It's too much mechanical work to repeat the cycle and it requires a lot of material and equipment not to mention expense. It was only to show a single cycle, nothing to hide here, it is what it is in its purest form. This is why when done by hand manually then it can only be shown one time. Understand?
@@PaweAdamowicz1981 It has a full cycle. It’s all done by hand. It was sped up in order for centrifugal to take effect quicker and have less gyroscopic force. I reversed them fast forwarded alternately to see the single cycle better in an attempt to show what the cycle would show much faster. The two differences in height is the result I was aiming for. I suggest watching other video of the same concept in different views.
This is exactly what Sandy Kidd was trying to explain 6 years ago in "Antigravity Machine Part 3." If the rotation speed of the system is fixed gyroscope rotation speed controls the amount of centrifugal force developed. This fact does not do the "Separate Conservation of Angular Momentum" any favours, but is one of the prerequisites required in the generation of inertial thrust
Hey there, yes Sandy Kidd was explaining the same thing in a way, just not very good, in my opinion. The idea is to be able to control centrifugal force, which is the main force, however what he did say is that the gyroscopes are only helpers that assist the gyros to get to a point above the horizontal, in which centrifugal force can't, but centrifugal force can move in the opposite way to *_reset_* the cycle. As you can clearly see the gyroscopes get above the horizontal, but then they either must be slowed down or rotated in such a way that gyroscopic forces cut off and allow centrifugal force to take over. It's the centrifugal force that is the main idea and can perform miraculous feats, including creating, well, I better stop there.
Prof Eric Laithwaite did extensives studies into the properties Centripedal procession in the late 1960s and early to mid 70s. Well worth studying... although this priciple does work. It woul be more use as a suppresion system on ambulances or other such emergency vehicles in cases of spinal or head trauma. Similar to a tank gun stabaliser.
What you are witnessing is centripetal force equaling or exceeding the gyroscopic precession and forcing the gyros into a planar field of motion, transfering the force of precession into the hub as an equalizing effect. Not antigravity (is not altering the gravitational field) but it is using some nifty geometry to create lift. Havent seen this before; hadn’t considered this before. The thing to consider here though is the centripetal force requires an axis of rotation. In order to attempt a flying device, you would need a way to stabilize the axis of rotation because there would be no table to anchor the axis. It would be the same issue helicopters face.
Thank you for your well thought out comment. It’s comments like these that I like, they are an honest critical look at what is actually going on and you actually thought about it, which I can always appreciate. As far as the centripetal force, not to be rude or anything like that, I never really consider the centripetal force, I just don’t see where that is at, I suppose in the reaction of the precession. I have always seem more of the centrifugal force doing some things, and I’m of course not referring to the pseudo force, but the radial force in the direction from the center of rotation toward the outside. There would be actually a stabilization of a linear travel the rotation does this as long as the speed of both gyros are identical in speed, so one doesn’t lift higher than the other. They would also have to be able to slow down in speed simultaneously in order for the centrifugal force to take over and provide the other part of the lift which could also simply be done by controlling the centrifugal force by turning it off and on again by spinning only rotating the gyroscopes out of the plane that causes lift of those very same gyros. This would be done alternately of course.
@@debunkified Imagine a see-saw that is equal on both sides.. when you put weight on one side, the other side goes up. The overall weight of the see-saw did not reduce in any way.
You’re not gonna get any left unless your gyroscopes are fixed at 90° you have maximum torque in the center of the system between the two gyros. This torque is converted into Lift but only during the gyroscopic’s acceleration mode. You are not achieve any lift with a free spinning gyroscope as it is always decelerating.
This kind of theory can only use for lifting weight like hydraulic using flywheel spinning.. but this is not possible for the anti gravity because there is still weight in the center of that two flywheels
Ive meddled with the idea too, and the joints in the arms are quite useless at that point but do help later on. What you need is more rotators , motors (15000rpm) with one replacing the finger. A controller circuit to fine adjust the rotators ( to avoid unvanted dissonant resonances - because flywheels coming off at 15-20 000 rpm .... you fill it in ) .. You also need the carriage to house the pwr supply + deadweight simulating pilot, cargo/?) and a RC circuit to control percentual lift above threshold. 👍 3, 6, 9... and phases, because you cant have indefinetly accelerated lift, it's a wave of lift and return.. and basically you are creating a gyroscopic diode
Momentum imitates mass, so momentum changes the center of mass, and no, it's not anti-gravity. It only appears to have it, yet the torque is beyond what you'd guess on that stem. My father once stated that maybe I could find a way to make anti-gravity with gyroscopes someday when he saw me using mine. After many years, and after reading a book from Borderlands Research on the Schaubager Saucers, I realized that only a gyro which can produce a particle vacuum will defy gravity and he did this with water flowing at 50k rpm inside a 3/4" tube that has no end because it connects to itself. Later I realized that a quasi-crystal lattice of quartz+gold could do the same without moving, and later yet, I realized that you merely need to split charge, which is the true principle behind the concept since there is no true vacuum. This is what Stan Deyo did in his garage with a coil array, so I built a better array and I'm actually about to finish the rest of the circuit this week.
@mikefromspace Hey now that’s interesting! I am curious on your interpretation of what a particle vacuum is and how it is made and perhaps a quick explanation. I think you may be speaking of a virtual particle in which one half is utilized, aka gravity.
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if you draw a line call it the path of lest resistance put one dot on the line it can travel a straight line from a to b now use two dots they have to take turns one will be more or less than the other they will share the difference the current is amps the work is watts resistance is time or distance no resistance = no watts or a straight line - we start from a lower voltage dividing until we have no amps - waiting for a path to ground a straight line the kelvin scale should show movement of larger objects
put it in a vacuum and see if it still raises up. I am guessing the spinning and rotational forces may cause it to force air around and down causing less air pressure above it.
Thinking more, maybe at moment the gyros precess down and hub lifts, your finger reduced the amount of torque applied momentarily, but still applying some torque. Non spinning gyro mass of rotor has inertia. Finger torque is responsible for angularly accelerating this rotor mass, allowing nonrestriction of spinning gyro mass to precess in horizontal plane. When finger torque backs off, rotor inertia now all of sudden impedes horizontal precession, now gyros have to precess down. Offset gyros do produce a non reactive force parallel to radius of gyration of gyro spin plane when precessing in an arc I’ve discovered from my experimentation and calculations, so during downward arcing of your gyros, this force is pulling thru the gyro axles to pull the hub up. When your gyros are positioned at the extreme upward angle during your rotor spin, this pulling force is not apparent, because radius of gyration of gyro spin planes is orthogonal to main rotor assembly axle, so these pulling forces are opposing each other in the horizontal. Engineering challenge: develop a system that applies variable torque in the horizontal plane within a half spin or less of the rotor assembly to excite these desired arc motions of the gyros cyclically to generate lifting pulses during rotor rotation? I know Sandy Kidd attempted something similar with cams pulling and pushing the offset gyros for cyclically changing angles…..
Hi, yes you are getting it. You see how easy it is to get lost in rabbit trails of actions and reactions. There is one instance of N3L being obeyed. However all it takes is for N3L to be violated just one time, then all other opposite and equal reactions do not matter anymore. So, I’m working on another video and it’s coming, probably Friday. It’s based on method number two. It is much smoother now and more aesthetic. I even got the finger, (accelerating horizontal force) completely removed and it still goes up. You might want to keep an eye for that. I have also replaced the threaded rod as the central shaft with an axle bolt for a smoother ride upwards. This also will eliminate any doubt of the shaft being pushed downwards, which obviously it’s not. It is impossible for two symmetrical forces on each side of that central shaft to push it downwards. More to come, thankfully.
@@debunkified You putting here energy into a system, with 1200W (approx.) machine. Then you get more forces involved turning it here and there. This motion could possibly come from anything (stress build up in some part of the build). Get real this not proofs anything
@@sebastianjakubzik2807 Yes, I am not claiming this is a free energy machine by any means. What I am claiming is that the entire device moves upward and vertically without pushing off anything whatsoever. Normally in order to move something up against gravity it has to push off of something. This does not. I think I proved that very well. There is a stress that causes this movement indeed but it is derived from the gyroscopic force that moves upwards without any *noticeable* _opposite and equal reaction_ *_downwards in direction._*
What if limit the vertical freedom of the outsticking nut screws of the blue wheels (sort of a cone/thorus set over it). 1:16 by gicing slight amount of horizontal rotation, the blue wheels won't spazieren gehen vertically, rather but the appliance itself. therefore could anti-gravitation could achieved? Great ❤ video & Work !
In space where there is no gravity, they rotate a craft to create artificial gravity . If you create artifical gravity on earth ( your experiment), where gravity is present, wouldnt the artifical gravity and earth gravity cancel each other to make anti gravity?
That my friend is partially correct as you are referring to centrifugal force. Be careful of the actual meaning of that term though. You have to remember that in order to sling something with some force, like the hand for instance, that there is an opposite and equal reaction to that force. So, for something to be truly lighter than the gravity of the Earth, continuously, it has to be reactionless. An action without an action. If you can do that then you are golden and own the universe.🙂
What would happen if you added the heat from hydraulic pressure or friction. Example the hoses on a tractor get very hot. Use the heat produced by the hydraulic pressure to expand and contract the up and down action of the levitating arms on the space craft to create lift on the gyros and spin them up to speed, the same as a sieagle surveying instrument from years ago.
That would just be an additional complexity to the system. It would also be a plain regular opposite and equal reaction with no additional use. Good thinking though, it’s out of the box.
The problem with this type of device is that even if it does work, it's highly impractical for real world applications. There would be hundreds of other cheaper, easier, better alternate methods to achieve whatever you would want to achieve with this method.
If you spin a bicycle wheel and move against the axis of spin you immediately intuitively know how two half tillted wheels spinning very rapidly could create serious amounts of lift above and beyond the weight of the spinning wheel.
Yes it’s actually counter intuitive. There is no actual weight gain of the entire system. It has simply _swapped_ weight around. In other words the wheel has lost weight but exchanged it with the pivot which will now have all the weight. This is like if you were to grab the pivot by hand and then rotate it you would be able to keep the pivot in one place while rotating upwards or in whatever direction the bicycle wheel or gyro or whatever. If the wheel weighs nothing then of course you can lift it by rotating the the pivot which has all the weight. But if the wheel is heavy then rotating the pivot would actually move the pivot downwards while leaving the wheel in one place as the pivot would be using the wheel as leverage! So there is an exchange of weight, even though the pivot doesn’t actually move because it is now heavy while the wheel is light. So the gyroscopic force does not lose nor gain weight. But at least you can lift a heavy object such as the spinning wheel without anything moving in the opposite direction. This isn’t unlike a gyro spinning on the table in which the gyro rotates around the pivot, the pivot stays in one place because it’s heavier than the precessing gyro, which weighs nothing. However the entire weight of the system has not lost nor gained weight. Then centrifugal force comes into play in order to achieve a lift of the entire setup.
Conservation of momentum... center of gravity stays the same, but as the weights are pulled down by gravity, the middle portion is pushed up due to centrifugal forces of the gyros. This is why gyros are used as stabilizers...
@@debunkified *Facepalm* All things are "pulled down by gravity", it's a constant force. The spin rate on the centrifugal force is a counter force, when that counter force becomes < gravity, *gravity* pulls it down.
@@eclecticgamer5144 Ok, let’s quit the knit picking here. Of course most things here on Earth are under the influence of gravity. Including the gyros as you mentioned. However by them moving downwards is not entirely due to gravity but by the centrifugal force, I mean come on. This centrifugal force has an apparent opposite and equal force, perhaps centripetal, that causes the pivot to go up. I don’t understand the argument here except the one that you seem to be creating.
@@eclecticgamer5144 well i agree with you on the first comment but i disagree on the second one here, if the centrifugal force gets very high it will overcome the gravity at a certain point. i mean, a little centrifugal force can lift the sides just as a very high one could force them down aligned with the plan of the rotation, creating a downward force that cant lift the center. I don't have much experience with gyroscopes but i assume that this machine is designed to take advantage of precession, right?
The machine was designed to take advantage of gyroscopic precession. However precession alone isn’t the only ingredient in the recipe. A lot of people on here ‘assume’ that is the only force at work here but it is not. Only a few people get it, and more are waking up to the fact that centrifugal force is also acting. This is mostly my fault. I never tell anybody this because I want people to use their brain and think about it because it takes a lot of thinking to figure all of this out. I always look at it like this, centrifugal ‘obeys’ N3L, or Newton’s third and gyroscopic doesn’t. It only takes one force to break N3L in order for everything else to no longer matter if it breaks it or not. So ok, maybe gyroscopes don’t break Newton’s third law but when an object loses its mass and moves upwards against gravity without anything else moving in the opposite direction then this is breaking Newton’s third law to me. I suppose it’s all a matter of perspective. To me the gyroscope violates Newton’s third law twice. First if a horizontal force is applied to the gyro then the gyro moves at a 90° angle in reaction to the horizontal force. Ok so at this point there probably is an opposite and equal ‘ 90° ‘ reaction to the initial horizontal force but the DIRECTION is NOT opposite and equal since it is at 90°. I do not recall Newton saying anything about DIRECTION in his law but only that there is an opposite and equal reaction. Secondly the vertical 90° reaction itself DOES NOT cause anything else to move downwards in the opposite direction in any visible way. You can easily prove this to yourself by hanging a fast spinning gyro by it’s axle with a string. The gyro ‘orbits’ around the end of the pivot like a planet around the sun. Once you’ve done that then you will see this doesn’t quite adhere to Newton’s third law because you will see that the gyro has lost it’s mass which is why it’s able to orbit freely around its horizontal path! You see there is a mass transfer from the gyro to it’s pivot. A lot of people don’t get this either, they are blinded by the light. The pivot has now gained all the mass from the gyro. This enables the pivot to remain immovable because it now has all the mass. It does not move, at least it doesn’t in the opposite direction to the orbiting gyro. Unless of course you want to consider the tiny little point at the end of the axle that is rotating in a much smaller circumstance, it does not move in any way at all in the opposite direction the the orbiting gyro. I hope that clears some things up with the gyroscopic force. The centrifugal force helps the pivot move upwards in the machine and yes it has an opposite and equal force but when combined with the gyroscopic force then the entire machine moves in one direction and ultimately ends up higher than where it started out at. All without pushing off of anything by the way. So if this process were to occur in space you would have the exact same thing happening.
I haven't tried it but if the wheels are on a loop circle and touching an upper ceiling... The rotor may be CCW but the wheels will be CW. This should cause gyroscopic levitation.
Yes of course. But it must be cycled continuously to maintain the weight reduction. A one off cycle would show a temporary weight loss then return back to normal but it wouldn’t gain weight as if it fell. The spring tells the story.
Would be awesome to see four counter rotating wheels in a housing that could levítate within a housing that could possibly levítate and direct itself 👍🏾
instead of bolt and spring---maybe puting the two gyros on a third gyro-------MAYBE it would be a significant change if the gyros were traveling at the same speed
I think you should record the exact speed of the gyros when the lift happens and the speed of the rotation and try to replicate it with motors set to that speed on a scale to see if the weight changes
I tried to attempt that awhile back but ended up burning out the motor, it just wasn't strong enough. You wouldn't believe the amount of torque that has to be applied to the thing. If I had a much stronger motor but I have moved on from this since then. I think it's clear enough, I mean if you think about it a little just look at a simple gyro with it's pivot on the table. The pivot remains perfectly still in one spot, it doesn't chase the gyro around or anything, especially in the opposite direction. It rotates of course but only in one spot while the gyro rotates around the pivot. If you think about it further you have to ask how is a heavy gyro moving around something that doesn't have any weight hardly at all without moving it in the opposite direction? I'm sure you've seen gyros that do no lose nor gain weight, which is normal, so if you place a gyro on a scale as it goes up, then you will see no weight change at all. Again, you have to ask though, you have heavy gyros moving upwards, with no weight change!
Pretty impressive! Don't know much about science so my question maybe a bit silly : Those gyroscopic devices have to rely on mecanics at some point they will get hot and they can break. Plus you will always be limited on the speed you can apply to it... so is there a way to make a "virtual gyro" that would be all magnetic without any rotating parts? This way you could "spin" it at near light speed? Just a tought.
Hi there. You ask a simple question with a complex answer. I have given lots of thought to this including what Maxwell said bout repulsive fields being simply a centrifugal force: There are many forces to a simple wheel, you would be amazed! There are several effects that I am working on at the moment, not like electromagnetic.
Secure the arms at their starting position to prevent them from raising up and try it. Alternatively secure the wheels at the elevated angel and spin the assembly in the other direction. In both cases it should be harder to rotate the assembly and the energy has to go somewhere.
Yes you are right the energy has to go somewhere. Unfortunately I’m afraid to say that all the energy goes directly into the center as stress and will break right in half. This would be normal behavior for gyroscopic force. There has to be freedom of movement in order to allow centrifugal force to work as well.
this isn't antigravity for the same reason that you dont fly away if you jump up in the air and start kicking your feet and squatting. It's just equilibrium
Here we go again defending the status. You only see what you want to see. The pivot in a gyro only rotates in only one position, this allow the *Heavy* gyro to move ahead of it without the pivot moving backwards. You can easily test this yourself by hanging the pivot from a string and seeing the string does not move in the opposite direction of the gyro. This then allows centrifugal force to *pull* the pivot upwards. Rinse and repeat.
Thanks for that, much appreciated. Actually I am observing something now that I would like others to see but don’t know how to share correctly. It essentially speeds up under load. It is causing me a lot of thinking to do. Thanks for the comment! 👍
Well, ok. I figured and have seen this much. I tried to lessen the friction down figuring it should be self powering by now, but it just keeps slowing down from the friction. It’s so irritating. It’s clear it speeds up under load, and I guess it’s not enough to over come the friction. Makes no sense to me. How can there be so much friction that the extra energy can’t take care of it?
When observing from the top view the left is rotating down and the right is rotating up, or the left is rotating clockwise and the right is rotating counter clockwise, or vice versa. If viewing from the side, it is rotating clockwise, if the other gyro is rotated around to the same view and position then it will be identical and vice versa.
Video on You tube shut down after 2 months. Peltier module on digital weigh scales loses weight when powered. John Keely did this type of work in his shop approx 1892 Philadelphia . He used themocouples / thermopiles wires of gold, silver + platinum. With array of tuning forks resonance vibrations applied to mass with wires, and nodes multiplications, with harmonic ratios, heavy metal would rise up. He also demonstrated triple sirens flywheels/ floating with resonance vibrations and ratios. He would speed up rpm with air pressure on side cups, then slow 2, for sound frequency's ratio. This was also done with French scientist using large sandwich plates of differing metals at each end of open dirigible frame, that lifted in air when oscillator frequencies applied. It was said that Keely got the earth frequency from Tesla. Tesla didn't like Keely , since Keely got more investor's money than he did.
Hm, I’ve heard of this kind of thing before but can’t make anything work out of it. Perhaps I should focus on it a little bit more and see what happens. Thanks. What made you comment this may I ask?
The problem is the power needs to be applied from the mechanism itself and not from outside sources. The gyros and base should be accelerated from a motor, otherwise they are slowing down from the moment you release the motor spinning them up. Still shows the basic concept though
So wouldn't this or shouldn't this be called gyroscopic powered wheels and not anti- gravity due to the fact that you observed a zero net gain or loss I weight? Or am I just out of my league here?
There is a gyroscopic force yes. But it is only to aid in the centrifugal force. Centrifugal has an opposite and equal reaction in this case, but centrifugal force alone can have a one way unidirectional for. The gyroscopic can also have a one-way unidirectional force which is the main concept in this build, where the centrifugal simply helps reset it back to gyroscopic. So, it's an interplay of gyroscopic and centrifugal forces. There are several different combinations depending on how much linear force is required and how fast. So, there is a loss of weight in this build, however it is only showing one cycle. The cycle must be repeated continuously.
I wonder why this video never shows them at rest after they've fallen 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it goes up... because the weights are in free fall and apply to pressure to the sprig, which now only has to lift the center pivot piece and some portion of the connective bar weights. Why are you trying to trick people?
I am not trying to trick people. I am trying to show people, the weights are in free fall due to gravity here on Earth and it is also necessary for centrifugal force to pull the pivot up as the gyros, now not spinning as fast to pull outwards. Centrifugal forces obey Newton's law in other configurations, while gyroscopic forces seem to violate it as, once again, the pivot never moves down as the gyros rise. The video is completely honest. The reason I don't show the entire thing is because it would take a away from the main concept of rising higher than where it started. I've repeated numerous times, over and over again that this initial phase has to be repeated in repetition in order to sustain it, after that yes, of course gravity takes over completely because there are no more phases to keep it up as it's only 1 phase.
have you made improvements, because this one could lift, only when the precessing force generates the torque, if you can provide the torque force too, it will get sufficient force to make lift, but there is a specific setting necessary, your gyro wheels as well as the vertical bolt should spin , where as your gyros should be placed exactly horizontally and not facing downwards, the gyros (the blue wheel). this rod holding gyros should have another vertical rod that prevents the gyro to move from horizontal to vertical position, this restriction making rod is attached to the whole body which is to be lifted, this will lift off the ground when the sufficient rpm is provided. formula of lift is very simple, force of lift in newton is F_L = mass of the gyros * (angular acceleration)^2 * radius of gyros. this is not fully perfect as there is air resistance in act, bearing rolling resistance in act and the gyro rpm will start to decrease gradually.
Well I’m sure you know what you are talking about. It seems that you have built some of it. However you haven’t built all of it as it seems, which is ok, but you must have seen something physically to make these assumptions or conclusions about your calculations depending on where you actually stand. What you have said really doesn’t make any sense to me. The way you describe how the gyros should actually be oriented is a drone like setup, if you rotate that whole thing, including the center as you described I see nothing happening there. A wheel rotating and then being moved in the same plane of rotation will produce zero torque or lift. Unless of course you cause some type of *_TILTING_* then maybe you could cause a sine wave type movement of the entire thing, but I doubt it. *_BUT_* , since the gyros would be oriented in the way you mentioned, _drone like setup_ then perhaps centrifugal force would go ahead and lift the pivots at the center (because now the newly oriented gyros would pulll outwards due to centrifugal inertia) simultaneously as the gyroscopic force is lifting the gyros, but the gyros must be able to tilt somehow in some way.
Good experiment with terrible deductions. The reason the scale moves up is due to the centre of mass shifting when the wheels go down. Both wheels don’t come down at the same time, this creates a centre of mass toward the wheel that is heavier / moving down first.
I think the deductions are AOK. You are referring to the centrifugal forces, which is admirable since most don't even recognize this as all they can see are gyroscopic forces. It's the combination of both. So yes, there is an opposite and equal force due to centrifugal forces and this is what you are commenting on. However, this is ok since the gyroscopic force got the *heavy* gyros up without pushing the pivot downward, and then carries through to the centrifugal, which by then it doesn't matter if there is an opposite and equal force pulling the pivot up and the gyros back down, they have to reset anyways for the next cycle, which I do not show. Ultimately the entire thing is higher than where it started, mostly due to the gyroscopic force pulling the gyros upwards without the pivot moving downwards. This is a mass transfer from the gyro to the pivot.
@@debunkified I think the effect of the spring going up as the wheels come down is not directly affected by the gyroscopic action. As the wheels spin down, the effect of gravity is evident. The two gyros are pivoted away from the centre of their masses. Due to this, the falling wheel will tend to have a torsional force between the wheel and the pivot which tends to lift the pivot up, since the force at the pivot and the force on the wheel are unbalanced along the axis of the shaft connecting the wheel and the pivot.
It gets complicated really fast, doesn't it? The wheels partly fall due to gravity, but in space it would actually be because of centrifugal force pulling the wheels outward and away from the center of rotation. Since the wheels are above the horizontal plane then they will pull the pivot upwards, *and consequently* pull the gyros downward, *Newton's 3rd* , but only to the horizontal. The opposite would occur if they were below the horizontal, they gyros would move up, but only to the horizontal and the pivot would be pushed downward. It is the gyroscopic force that can get the gyros up and above the horizontal without pushing the pivot downwards, as seen in the spring not being pushed down as the gyros lift upwards and inwards. Try getting a rod or bar of some type and make it horizontal, now tilt the right side upward while leaving the left side at the same point. That would be the gyroscopic force. Now move the left side upwards and the right side downward just as equally. That would be the centrifugal force, or for the hard headed mixed up frame of minds frame of reference weirdos, *_Inertial Forces._* You will clearly see that the bar is higher than where it started. Take a simple toy gyro and make it precess on a table, do you see the pivot moving in the opposite direction of the precessing gyro? Most likely not. Same thing. It stays in one spot, that's what enables the combination of the centrifugal and gyroscpic to move everything higher than where it started.@@saveusfromidiocracy35
Hi, I do not know what the power is. Since this was done all by hand it is hard to understand. I suppose the small resistance in putting a horizontal force into it I order to cause a vertical movement might have been a few to several watts. I didn’t spend much time weighing it but at one point I do believe it weighted something like between 1 and 3 pounds. If you are referring to free energy I do not think this is free energy as long as the forces are translational.
I am not an expert, but I have to ask about the spring...why not do the test without the spring? I think that may be providing some of the lifting force.
Hi, the spring is only there as a simple scale as stated in the video. It needs to be there to show that it never gets pushed down. If it never gets pushed down that means the spring never gets any energy stored in it in order to release it for lift, so the spring has nothing to do with the lift. If the spring wasn’t there then nobody would be able to see if it was actually pushing down first before lifting up, sorta like squatting down first before jumping up in the air with your legs and body. Then the ground of the Earth would be pushing back because you pushed off of it. If this was pushing off of something first before lifting then the spring would clearly show this occurring, which it does not, therefore it is not pushing off of anything. In fact without the spring, or with it, if it were to push down on something first then the lift would shoot it upwards towards the ceiling punching a hole through the roof., depending on how hard it pushed down first. The spring would be crushed or compressed all the way plus the force pushing downwards would go beyond the spring and into the table. Then the upwards reaction would be tremendous. I think it’s good enough that it is lifting upwards against gravity with all that weight without pushing the spring down in any way at all. In this way you can see that it is not pushing down off of anything before lifting. Gyroscopic force does not move the central pivot in the downwards direction, centrifugal force will however. More like the release of centripetal, since centrifugal really actually doesn’t exist.
Good thinking! You’re a thinker. I too thought of this and even though I didn’t make a video of it, or maybe I did, I replaced that central threaded rod with a solid one and got the same results. There is no such thing as centrifugal force by the way, only centripetal. That’s the force that does it all. It’s also free.
@@debunkified awesome thanks for the update. Ive always been interested in how to use this apparent lifft. like maybe you could make the outer flywheels out of batteries, so it kind of nullifies the weight of the batteries? or something like that
Anti gravity wheels will be the next battery storage options in my opinion storing kinetic energy an using fundamental bypassing the laws of gravity with high rpms to gain 8% in overall mass reduction you could use a tripod system and cable to make them go up an down by themselves just by being spun upto high rpm will cause the spinning block to go up in the air that 8% is a lot when gravity is out of the equation
Very interesting comment you just made there. I haven’t responded to anything my lately because I am determined to pay something off right in order to not be a slave to it anymore and to also free up space later time. Where are you getting 8% reduction figure from, it sounds familiar. Describe battery storage idea a little bit more to me.
The weight of the gyros dropping due to cintrifical force (im no english major dont ask me to spell correctly) the outward pulling due to the spin, being connected at the hub the way it is causes it to rise when the gyros stabalize. Def not doing anything special
You are correct as there are opposite and equal forces of centrifugal forces, or more appropriately _inertial force_ for those die hards who don't think it exists, it's just a matter of reference frames. Let's call it a spiral a combination of linear and rotational. Anyways it's the gyroscopic force that allows a heavy gyro to lift upwards without the pivot being pushed down the centrifugal just helps get the center pulled upwards and that's all.
Centrifugal force causes the hinges to align horizontally. The sudden centrifugal force lifts the machine up, like cracking a belt. The gyros are resisting the change of plane when they align vertically, and the force of the spring causes the system to jump for a second. The lift is caused because of the centrifugal force, which quickly pushes the gyros outwards, which in turn causes the hinges ti move to the center position causing a momentary jump. Cool experiment tho
Nothing like you describe, but not entirely. There is no centrifugal in the beginning of the process. That’s impossible as there can’t be centrifugal force existing with gyroscopic forces simultaneously. Think a little harder. Centrifugal force on the other hand experiences Newton’s third but gyroscopic does not.
You left out the third axis. All you did was spin the two wheels in opposite direction. But you didn't have a device to spin the vertical shaft. All three must spinning to create the anti gravitational field.
You’re right, but gyroscopic force alone doesn’t do anything, there is another force helping it, but apparently you don’t read comments or the other endless reply’s stating the exact shame thing. So I will let you do that.
@@debunkified People have been trying this for many many many years with exactly 0 results. Not even Sandy Kidd can make something like this work, no matter how bad he wants to, or how much you believe he did. There simply is no there there. spinning a couple roller blade wheels around is not science.
Shouldn't you fix the giros horizontally rather than let them hinge upwards? Also which direction are the giros rotating? Clockwise, anticlockwise or both different? Probably no difference but it would be nice to think the whole thing could take off!
If the gyros are fixed horizontally then there would be no gyroscopic force if I understood you question correctly. The it would like spinning a normal mass.
@@debunkified as I see it each gyro would want to rise but could not, exerting a force on the centre pivot. However it seems that the idea of providing lift with contra rotating gyros is a no go. If it were that simple it would have been done already
It has been done already. You are thinking about gyroscopic forces. In which that case if the rising gyros try to lift the center one will see that the amount of lifting force is exactly the amount of lifting force of the gyros. This is to be expected with gyroscopic forces. This is the reason why centrifugal forces are introduced as the gyroscopic forces are only an aid to the centrifugal force. But both forces can no occur at the same time.
It is similar to that is produce on a sticky wall at the amusments rides, but this is cool as with the correct aplication this could be use as a control system in order to be able to create lift in a vehicle that is bound by physical laws. Although if we want anti gravity we need to act in the laws of nature and resonation is key for this I believe your flywheels will have principle but you know why it called flywheel because if it wasnt attach to a physical object it just fly away. And thus flywheel are key to flight but the application in which it is used is not to create the anitgravity but more so to give lift and propell.
there prolly should be three also there should be a correlation between speed based on 3 6 9 maybe ie. 3146rpm maybe in octaves of sacred geometry pi, phi, and golden ratio
@@peterrenshaw You’re welcome. I know it’s not the best build, but I think it might be good enough to show what I was trying to show and hopefully in an understandable way.
Unfortunately no laws have been broken here and this doesn't prove anything. All the forces are conserved and accounted for by the movement of the slope of the gyroscopes as it goes up. However, this was the best attempt to try to get something like this to work that I've seen.
Thanks for that. Yes evverything should be conserved, I don't really recall claiming such. Everything is a one way unidirectional force. Gyros go up without the pivot moving down, then the pivot moves up just afterwards, although the gyros move down at the time the pivot is moving up, ultimately it arrives at a much higher level than where it started. Plain and simple.
@@debunkified What I was trying to say was that there wasnt a display of lift of the unit. In order for this system to work there has to be a net force one direction. However, keep up the work. Hopefully you find something.
I don’t understand where you observed the machine *.not lifting*. I thought I made it pretty clear that it did lift, even accelerating upwards after the hand was completely removed, which is impossible all in itself. Perhaps you could watch other similar videos that may show a different perspective of this clear lift without pushing off of anything except it’s own forces. There are several small incidences all occurring simultaneously and can easily be missed. I’ve got this written all over the place and so I won’t repeat myself here. Some force involved are gyroscopic and centrifugal. In fact gyroscopes aren’t even necessary to show the one way unidirectional force.
Instead of wheels, use round batteries that spin, use 12 around, encase it, and you got yourself an electric UFO. Give it initial power and lift on the ground, and maybe it will be able to hover and fly for hours. I am sure it is more complicated than that, but I am allowed to dream, right?
You would need to use a lot of power to cause flight by this method. the gyroscopes would have to flap up and down thousands of times per minute without even breaking or wearing down.
I concur. I just discovered a method however that can cause a single pulse to send the craft flying through space. Another pulse would simply double its acceleration. Eventually the speed of light can be reached. After that, I’m not sure what would happen. Perhaps a breach of time and space.
@@fireball75677 I first started by looking through patents to see what others have done and to get ideas, but none of them were clear enough for me or could explain anything in understandable and simple terms. So this led me to my own intensive experimentation and then finally to these designs. Hope that helps..
i was thinking about building a electro magnetic coil configuration to try and cause this effect to happen magnetically audio/frequency is my area of knowledge
Was your finger applying a torque to slow down the spin of the assembly or accelerate the spin of assembly when hub lifted? Seems to me that the gyros would precess downwards like they did during the lift only during a deceleration torque. Can you remember?
Hi, No, my finger did not apply any other torque except in one continuous horizontal direction. So no, no slowing down of the horizontal torque applied by my finger. If a slowing occurred or even reversed the gyro would then simply move downwards while leaving the central hub in place just the same as when gyro moves upwards.
I have a request. Could you do similar video to where you are maintaining a spin with finger, and then deliberately input a slowing impulse? Gyros shouldn’t be arcing down with an accelerative input. See if you can recreate lift by doing this………?
@@antigrav1302 If a slowing occurred or even reversed the gyro would then simply move downwards while leaving the central hub in place just the same as when gyro moves upwards.
Man, that just don't make sense to me, uhgg..... If torqueing it up faster, gyros should angle themselves tighter and tighter upward against the stops, not all of a sudden angle downward. I'm really scratching my head on this one if you are experiencing downward gyro precessive angling with more horizontal torque inputed to speed it up further........ In any case from viewing your recent experiments , key to hub lift seems to be when the gyros are are forced to diverge from a steady set angle. You are on to something, keep playing with it, don't quit!
@@antigrav1302 Hey thanks for closely examining the observed facts and taking the time to realize what ‘should be happening. I’ll help you out a little. Gyroscopes in and of themselves do not lose nor gain weight as you observed in the video. It’s a difficult thing to think about, trust me, that’s where I went for such a long time, to go find out how, by using my brain, and seeking advice from a master. Otherwise I would have just given up. One thing about the gyro though is that it rises upward with a, shall I dare to say, a negative weight because it’s obviously accelerating away from gravity instead of towards it. The catch to that is though is that the central hub then gains that weight as a positive weight, therefore no weight change at all in the entire gyro assembly. Yet there is no downwards movement of the central hub. I’ve learned a lot and know a lot , but not everything quite yet, I’m still learning believe it or not. One thing I’m a bit baffled at is, are the gyros actually just lifting up all the non spinning dead weight? Or are they torquing the dead weight as well? Figure that one out and I could quite possibly make a better video for you.
Hi there, the gyros are causing a lifting effect which is the whole idea. The lifting effect is not only on the gyros but also on the central hub and pivots, all without pushing downwards on a single thing to cause a catapulting effect.
@@debunkified I thought perhaps the spinning gyros were acting like the rotors on a helicopter to create lift. But now I realize that's not it. So I looked it up, and it's called the gyroscopic procession wheel or something. Anyway, the device you've constructed here isn't losing mass or weight, so how do you expect it to achieve flight?
@@samclh9421 Hi, and thanks for doing some research to find out things on your own! This I highly appreciate and I commend you. I can’t say that for very many people right now. What you read is absolutely correct! Since hardly nobody thinks outside of gyroscopic forces then nobody has the eyes to read what I have been saying repeatedly all along. Maybe, just maybe, you have the eyes to read what I have to say right here and right now and save you even more searching on exactly where I have already stated this. So here we go, there are more than just gyroscopic forces at play here. Of course the gyroscopic system in itself does not lose nor gain weight, it stays exactly the same. This is made evident with the spring acting like a simple scale for measuring weight. As you can see it does not compress nor decompress which shows us that when in a pure gyroscopic mode the weight says exactly the same. However, the spring does indeed decompress which is evidence of a weight loss, mind you, all without pushing off of anything first. So there is no springboarding going on or catapulting effect whatsoever. What I would like you to do is do a little bit more research and find out what ‘force’ is causing the weight loss of the entire apparatus. Here’s a clue, it is not gyroscopic. The gyroscopic force is only a catalyst to set up the next force. The answer actually lies within the video itself. If you can find this answer then you would have given yourself the knowledge of a machine that can move in one direction without pushing off of absolutely anything. In other words, antigravity. Let me know when you find out what this force is.
Have you tried using copper and aluminum plates spinning counterclockwise also tryin dissolving some ice cubes in hot water cup nearby the spinning plates maybe that will do something more.
That’s a really interesting concept. What would be the purpose of the hot water and melting ice cube be? An upwards movement of the ice or something to that nature?
Well, you know it's not perfect there's still gravity of course. But that's quite a bit of weight there so I think that's pretty good for just a single cycle. You have to see the entire picture. 😀
Folding down the side arms puts them into free fall for a short time. This reduces the weight and the spring can lift the entire structure briefly. Of course, this would also happen without rotation. The "gyroscopes" - which are actually flywheels - are completely insignificant for this, but merely ensure the equally insignificant rotation of the entire rotor. If you theoretically attached a lamp with a power source to the top of the rotor, you could also see this in the dark.
You have to look at the center of mass of the whole system. The middle part goes up but gyros go down.
Yup, that's highschool physics, the gyros aren't even needed for that.
The heavy arms swing down, and the conservation of momentum makes.the lighter hub rise.
Again, as usual, people forget that the gyros go up and push _lots_ of weight without the pivot going down! All other Newton doctrines, _including the third_ like centrifugal and centripetal forces doesn’t matter any more.
@@debunkified the spring doesn't compress visibly when the gyros go up because they do it slowly.
It's when they drop fast, that you can notice the center part jumping.
Maybe with more sensitive and well callibrated measuring devices, you wouldn't get glitches like that one.
@@ampeyro Already done them, just haven’t showed them here. It’s clear the pivot does not move in the opposite direction. Yes ok let’s say there is an opposite and equal reaction at the pivot, fine, but it does not _move in the opposite direction_ whatsoever.
The gyros *orbit* around the pivot.
@@debunkified i think we have a linguistic problem here.
You say "didn't move" but I'm asking how many newtons, for how many seconds and at how many Rpm?
Maybe a graph plotting different gyro swing rates X motion in the vetical axis...
Like Adam Savage said "the difference between screwing around and science is writing it down"
(And with numbers, graphs and statistics if possible)
The gyros should have electric motors and brush connections to the power source and freely spin in middle aka a brush barring connector in the middle of the shaft and motor on the middle top but the real question is will it levitate with out a stand or hover on wind like a hover craft instead of the spring
Incorrect. The Jaros all of them need to be fixed either with a gear system or some sort of chain system. You guys just don’t understand the sheer amount of resistance these machines are fighting against assuming they are designed and working correctly to achieve Lift. you will know when you’re getting somewhere when something breaks from too much force. Make it stronger, make it lighter, try again!
So close get right next time.
Ezekiel's chariot has four Spinning Wheels (four wheels within wheels) on each corner perhaps four spinning in a certain direction creates Anti-Gravity
Do you like to smoke herbs or mushrooms?
Actually, I'm working on that right now.
The principle is to try 4 gyros at right angles to each other, spinning around one way or the other, then flexing them upwards to see the combined angular momentum will pull upward.
Sense ?
There will always be a force tangential to the lateral gyros moving, that make it goes up naturally, and spring compensates movement on the upside
@@usman710 Hm, so you’re saying the plain rotation of the gyros are trying to naturally lift it? Perhaps you could elaborate on that.
When you move the gyros ccw + UP, they exert force inward + Down, spring compresses down and moves back to its org position (at the strt of vid)
When the gyros go down , opposite effect , CCW + UP
Please refer to dynamics of static systems and you will get the idea
Gravity is not salient to Earth, rather it is a feature of Star A i.e Saggitarius A experienced on Earth
So where does gravity go in space , in the large void btw, and the big stars distant from earth, why are they distant from star A if they have big masses
And the prime question
Why is the universe expanding, defying the basic principle of gravitational pull towards the center of the universe which has the biggest of all masses
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There are only two forces at work, compression and expansion, on THE medium ether, or dark energy as quantum goofs call it, which brings about every physical law and matter into existenc
Compression/Expansion, Peak trough, wave, particle, frequency, wavelength, whatever you call it
Read Walter Russell
Yes I will look into that more. The universe appears to be expanding because the universe is just a baby black hole born from a parent black hole. These are inter dimensional.
So you are saying that if rotated ccw and then lifted up or down another force appears or what? Or are you just talking about normal gyroscopic physics.
@@debunkified right hand rule , your force by hand , balanced by gyros, and transformed
@ it’s the combination of gyroscopic and centrifugal. This allows the whole thing to rise higher than where it started. Gyroscopic force lifts the gyros while centrifugal lifts the pivot.
I think by letting the wheels lift reduces the upward component of thrust (it becomes like two spinning tops). You can see the weight reduce when they become horizontal.
Also increasing the angular speed of the wheel assembly around the vertical axis will reduce the weight too.
So it seems that the lifting force is produced only during acceleration in the horizontal rotation. Great build and thanks for the video!
Yes the gyros are lifted while a horizontal force is applied. This horizontal force is then basically converted into a 90 degree ‘vertical’ reaction.
Thank you for the kind comment, it is appreciated. Have a nice one.
A change in acceleration will yield a weight gain or loss. When the finger makes contact with the device, a change in acceleration is present (I.e. deceleration or acceleration). This change allows for an upwards or downwards force to take place but only by the change in speed.
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whats amazing is that this is just one piece of a grander aspect that shifts depending on the different shapes and forms that come into play. For example, tapping into the different points of inertia and building something to tap into that into the other and repeat, it gets fun but also simple...the simplist designs can be very high tech in their functionality based on the builders wisdom,...Namaste
It cam be made better by replacing wheels with torus filled with mercury and ferrium substance. Electromagnets will move it horizontally. Rotational speed should be ariund 250.000 rotations per second in the pressure of 600.000 Pascals and in the -273.15° Celsius.
Same concept can be used to make brake system changing move force to rotational one to reduce the effects of the car or elevator impact.
Good idea
I think what if we build that think in a very high rpm rate motor and we can make the connection with gold to the rod for the another two motor and we can skip the limit of the cable , if is it really working we must think how we can power the another 2 spinning motor to the maximum we must understand first how this thing make energy
Great idea if you start from the moon. All you need is a changing mass when there is no gravity. You need like a swing but one that only has a kid on it when goes up and no mass when it goes back, so the moving mass keeps adding motion. The changing mass happens when you rotate the wheels
The invisible hand external from the system must be involved. Thanks,
@@debunkified For sure, but in a vacuum you only need it once(twice). And it will keep spinning till the same energy it needed to get moving is used to counter it.
@@henry8841 You may need to explain that in a little more detail, please. thank you.
@@debunkified There is little to none energy loss without gravity, so if your going 1000mp/h you wil keep that speed for a looooong time. To brake you need the same amount of energy that was used to make you move. Mass is only slowed down by other mass, because mass means gravity. Einsteins E = mc2 is the formula that solves mass and energy in a vacuum.
Hello. Simply put, it has a fixed stationary point which holds the whole structure from moving the opposite direction and thus cancelling out the acceleration. In order to acheive independant lift it will need some kind of counter force, just like what a tail rotor on a helicopter does. You would think that a gyroscope operating at around 90 degrees or slightly offset might do it, but the speeds at which they operate may not be acheivable with current technologies. Thus the energy required for lift may be far greater than something that uses airflow for thrust.
Why the video is cut in this moment? Spring push contraption up, when arms fall down. Nothing unusual here.
No, do some actual reading through the comments so I don't have to repeat this for the millionth time, it is *_NOT THE SPRING_* pushing anything up, it is the combination of centrifugal and gyroscopic, use your thinking cap. The pivot remains stationary.
@@debunkifiedSo why the cut in this moment?
@@PaweAdamowicz1981 To show the single cycle process. It's too much mechanical work to repeat the cycle and it requires a lot of material and equipment not to mention expense.
It was only to show a single cycle, nothing to hide here, it is what it is in its purest form. This is why when done by hand manually then it can only be shown one time. Understand?
@@debunkifiedthe cycle on video is cut before end of the cycle. Make another video with full cycle.
@@PaweAdamowicz1981 It has a full cycle. It’s all done by hand. It was sped up in order for centrifugal to take effect quicker and have less gyroscopic force.
I reversed them fast forwarded alternately to see the single cycle better in an attempt to show what the cycle would show much faster.
The two differences in height is the result I was aiming for. I suggest watching other video of the same concept in different views.
This is exactly what Sandy Kidd was trying to explain 6 years ago in "Antigravity Machine Part 3."
If the rotation speed of the system is fixed gyroscope rotation speed controls the amount of centrifugal force developed.
This fact does not do the "Separate Conservation of Angular Momentum" any favours, but is one of the prerequisites required in the generation of inertial thrust
Hey there, yes Sandy Kidd was explaining the same thing in a way, just not very good, in my opinion.
The idea is to be able to control centrifugal force, which is the main force, however what he did say is that the gyroscopes are only helpers that assist the gyros to get to a point above the horizontal, in which centrifugal force can't, but centrifugal force can move in the opposite way to *_reset_* the cycle.
As you can clearly see the gyroscopes get above the horizontal, but then they either must be slowed down or rotated in such a way that gyroscopic forces cut off and allow centrifugal force to take over.
It's the centrifugal force that is the main idea and can perform miraculous feats, including creating, well, I better stop there.
Place the entire setup on a weighing machine and monitor.
Try multiple sets moving opposite each other
Prof Eric Laithwaite did extensives studies into the properties Centripedal procession in the late 1960s and early to mid 70s. Well worth studying... although this priciple does work. It woul be more use as a suppresion system on ambulances or other such emergency vehicles in cases of spinal or head trauma. Similar to a tank gun stabaliser.
hi please calculate your center of mass in both configurations - it should be the same
What you are witnessing is centripetal force equaling or exceeding the gyroscopic precession and forcing the gyros into a planar field of motion, transfering the force of precession into the hub as an equalizing effect.
Not antigravity (is not altering the gravitational field) but it is using some nifty geometry to create lift.
Havent seen this before; hadn’t considered this before.
The thing to consider here though is the centripetal force requires an axis of rotation. In order to attempt a flying device, you would need a way to stabilize the axis of rotation because there would be no table to anchor the axis. It would be the same issue helicopters face.
Thank you for your well thought out comment. It’s comments like these that I like, they are an honest critical look at what is actually going on and you actually thought about it, which I can always appreciate.
As far as the centripetal force, not to be rude or anything like that, I never really consider the centripetal force, I just don’t see where that is at, I suppose in the reaction of the precession.
I have always seem more of the centrifugal force doing some things, and I’m of course not referring to the pseudo force, but the radial force in the direction from the center of rotation toward the outside.
There would be actually a stabilization of a linear travel the rotation does this as long as the speed of both gyros are identical in speed, so one doesn’t lift higher than the other.
They would also have to be able to slow down in speed simultaneously in order for the centrifugal force to take over and provide the other part of the lift which could also simply be done by controlling the centrifugal force by turning it off and on again by spinning only rotating the gyroscopes out of the plane that causes lift of those very same gyros.
This would be done alternately of course.
@@debunkified Imagine a see-saw that is equal on both sides.. when you put weight on one side, the other side goes up. The overall weight of the see-saw did not reduce in any way.
U MUST USE 3 GYROS SPACED 120 DEG FOR HORISONTAL STABILIZATION
You’re not gonna get any left unless your gyroscopes are fixed at 90° you have maximum torque in the center of the system between the two gyros. This torque is converted into Lift but only during the gyroscopic’s acceleration mode. You are not achieve any lift with a free spinning gyroscope as it is always decelerating.
Have you actually done what you have just explained?
This kind of theory can only use for lifting weight like hydraulic using flywheel spinning.. but this is not possible for the anti gravity because there is still weight in the center of that two flywheels
Ive meddled with the idea too, and the joints in the arms are quite useless at that point but do help later on. What you need is more rotators , motors (15000rpm) with one replacing the finger. A controller circuit to fine adjust the rotators ( to avoid unvanted dissonant resonances - because flywheels coming off at 15-20 000 rpm .... you fill it in ) .. You also need the carriage to house the pwr supply + deadweight simulating pilot, cargo/?) and a RC circuit to control percentual lift above threshold. 👍 3, 6, 9... and phases, because you cant have indefinetly accelerated lift, it's a wave of lift and return.. and basically you are creating a gyroscopic diode
Dude somebody had to have done this right?
@@jbistaphonkgo back to school
Momentum imitates mass, so momentum changes the center of mass, and no, it's not anti-gravity. It only appears to have it, yet the torque is beyond what you'd guess on that stem. My father once stated that maybe I could find a way to make anti-gravity with gyroscopes someday when he saw me using mine. After many years, and after reading a book from Borderlands Research on the Schaubager Saucers, I realized that only a gyro which can produce a particle vacuum will defy gravity and he did this with water flowing at 50k rpm inside a 3/4" tube that has no end because it connects to itself. Later I realized that a quasi-crystal lattice of quartz+gold could do the same without moving, and later yet, I realized that you merely need to split charge, which is the true principle behind the concept since there is no true vacuum. This is what Stan Deyo did in his garage with a coil array, so I built a better array and I'm actually about to finish the rest of the circuit this week.
@mikefromspace Hey now that’s interesting! I am curious on your interpretation of what a particle vacuum is and how it is made and perhaps a quick explanation. I think you may be speaking of a virtual particle in which one half is utilized, aka gravity.
Ezekiel's Wheel realized. The best demonstration I've seen in this topic in years! Subbed. Well done.
Hi. You know, it’s funny you say that. I’ve been thinking about Ezekiel’s wheel inside a wheel a lot lately.
@@debunkified⚠️ God has said in the Quran:
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🔵 And give good tidings to those who believe and do righteous deeds that they will have gardens [in Paradise] beneath which rivers flow. Whenever they are provided with a provision of fruit therefrom, they will say, "This is what we were provided with before." And it is given to them in likeness. And they will have therein purified spouses, and they will abide therein eternally. ( 2:25 )
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if you draw a line call it the path of lest resistance put one dot on the line it can travel a straight line from a to b now use two dots they have to take turns one will be more or less than the other they will share the difference the current is amps the work is watts resistance is time or distance no resistance = no watts or a straight line - we start from a lower voltage dividing until we have no amps - waiting for a path to ground a straight line the kelvin scale should show movement of larger objects
put it in a vacuum and see if it still raises up. I am guessing the spinning and rotational forces may cause it to force air around and down causing less air pressure above it.
i use It already and it work 👍
Inertia engines should be possible. Certain vortexes make lift trajectories
fix the gyros straight out and then spin it. The spring will move up, and if you spin it fast enough, it will go to the cieiling.
??? What makes you say that?
Thinking more, maybe at moment the gyros precess down and hub lifts, your finger reduced the amount of torque applied momentarily, but still applying some torque. Non spinning gyro mass of rotor has inertia. Finger torque is responsible for angularly accelerating this rotor mass, allowing nonrestriction of spinning gyro mass to precess in horizontal plane. When finger torque backs off, rotor inertia now all of sudden impedes horizontal precession, now gyros have to precess down. Offset gyros do produce a non reactive force parallel to radius of gyration of gyro spin plane when precessing in an arc I’ve discovered from my experimentation and calculations, so during downward arcing of your gyros, this force is pulling thru the gyro axles to pull the hub up. When your gyros are positioned at the extreme upward angle during your rotor spin, this pulling force is not apparent, because radius of gyration of gyro spin planes is orthogonal to main rotor assembly axle, so these pulling forces are opposing each other in the horizontal.
Engineering challenge: develop a system that applies variable torque in the horizontal plane within a half spin or less of the rotor assembly to excite these desired arc motions of the gyros cyclically to generate lifting pulses during rotor rotation?
I know Sandy Kidd attempted something similar with cams pulling and pushing the offset gyros for cyclically changing angles…..
Hi, yes you are getting it. You see how easy it is to get lost in rabbit trails of actions and reactions.
There is one instance of N3L being obeyed. However all it takes is for N3L to be violated just one time, then all other opposite and equal reactions do not matter anymore.
So, I’m working on another video and it’s coming, probably Friday. It’s based on method number two.
It is much smoother now and more aesthetic. I even got the finger, (accelerating horizontal force) completely removed and it still goes up.
You might want to keep an eye for that. I have also replaced the threaded rod as the central shaft with an axle bolt for a smoother ride upwards.
This also will eliminate any doubt of the shaft being pushed downwards, which obviously it’s not.
It is impossible for two symmetrical forces on each side of that central shaft to push it downwards. More to come, thankfully.
Looking forward!
@@debunkified You putting here energy into a system, with 1200W (approx.) machine. Then you get more forces involved turning it here and there.
This motion could possibly come from anything (stress build up in some part of the build). Get real this not proofs anything
@@sebastianjakubzik2807 Yes, I am not claiming this is a free energy machine by any means. What I am claiming is that the entire device moves upward and vertically without pushing off anything whatsoever.
Normally in order to move something up against gravity it has to push off of something. This does not.
I think I proved that very well. There is a stress that causes this movement indeed but it is derived from the gyroscopic force that moves upwards without any *noticeable* _opposite and equal reaction_ *_downwards in direction._*
What has the background music to do with Anti-Gravity?
the falling wheels are displacing the force of gravity on the rest of the contraption.
Gyroscope is basically on twisting forces. To make it lift is a bit hard. It is possible to turn or orient the connected structure as a whole.
What if limit the vertical freedom of the outsticking nut screws of the blue wheels (sort of a cone/thorus set over it). 1:16 by gicing slight amount of horizontal rotation, the blue wheels won't spazieren gehen vertically, rather but the appliance itself. therefore could anti-gravitation could achieved? Great ❤ video & Work !
If I spin this on my finger it will weigh less?
that's because of the fast spinning of the wheel. we see that when there is an accident on the road, the tire goes over. and the roof is underneath.
In space where there is no gravity, they rotate a craft to create artificial gravity . If you create artifical gravity on earth ( your experiment), where gravity is present, wouldnt the artifical gravity and earth gravity cancel each other to make anti gravity?
To a degree yes. However you must focus it in one direction.
So slinging something cancels out gravity by he mass will still be the same but it makes it fall at a slower rate than the earth ?
That my friend is partially correct as you are referring to centrifugal force. Be careful of the actual meaning of that term though.
You have to remember that in order to sling something with some force, like the hand for instance, that there is an opposite and equal reaction to that force.
So, for something to be truly lighter than the gravity of the Earth, continuously, it has to be reactionless. An action without an action. If you can do that then you are golden and own the universe.🙂
What would happen if you added the heat from hydraulic pressure or friction. Example the hoses on a tractor get very hot. Use the heat produced by the hydraulic pressure to expand and contract the up and down action of the levitating arms on the space craft to create lift on the gyros and spin them up to speed, the same as a sieagle surveying instrument from years ago.
That would just be an additional complexity to the system. It would also be a plain regular opposite and equal reaction with no additional use. Good thinking though, it’s out of the box.
The problem with this type of device is that even if it does work, it's highly impractical for real world applications. There would be hundreds of other cheaper, easier, better alternate methods to achieve whatever you would want to achieve with this method.
prove it.
it could be better than use a lot of fuel to a rocket
Could the spinning gyros just be causing lift with circulation of air currents like a propeller?
No, at least not in an appreciable way. There are two main forces here working to together.
If you spin a bicycle wheel and move against the axis of spin you immediately intuitively know how two half tillted wheels spinning very rapidly could create serious amounts of lift above and beyond the weight of the spinning wheel.
Yes it’s actually counter intuitive. There is no actual weight gain of the entire system. It has simply _swapped_ weight around. In other words the wheel has lost weight but exchanged it with the pivot which will now have all the weight.
This is like if you were to grab the pivot by hand and then rotate it you would be able to keep the pivot in one place while rotating upwards or in whatever direction the bicycle wheel or gyro or whatever.
If the wheel weighs nothing then of course you can lift it by rotating the the pivot which has all the weight. But if the wheel is heavy then rotating the pivot would actually move the pivot downwards while leaving the wheel in one place as the pivot would be using the wheel as leverage!
So there is an exchange of weight, even though the pivot doesn’t actually move because it is now heavy while the wheel is light.
So the gyroscopic force does not lose nor gain weight. But at least you can lift a heavy object such as the spinning wheel without anything moving in the opposite direction.
This isn’t unlike a gyro spinning on the table in which the gyro rotates around the pivot, the pivot stays in one place because it’s heavier than the precessing gyro, which weighs nothing. However the entire weight of the system has not lost nor gained weight.
Then centrifugal force comes into play in order to achieve a lift of the entire setup.
Conservation of momentum... center of gravity stays the same, but as the weights are pulled down by gravity, the middle portion is pushed up due to centrifugal forces of the gyros. This is why gyros are used as stabilizers...
Gravity does not pull down the gyros, they are forced down by the use of centrifugal force.
@@debunkified *Facepalm* All things are "pulled down by gravity", it's a constant force. The spin rate on the centrifugal force is a counter force, when that counter force becomes < gravity, *gravity* pulls it down.
@@eclecticgamer5144 Ok, let’s quit the knit picking here. Of course most things here on Earth are under the influence of gravity. Including the gyros as you mentioned.
However by them moving downwards is not entirely due to gravity but by the centrifugal force, I mean come on.
This centrifugal force has an apparent opposite and equal force, perhaps centripetal, that causes the pivot to go up.
I don’t understand the argument here except the one that you seem to be creating.
@@eclecticgamer5144 well i agree with you on the first comment but i disagree on the second one here, if the centrifugal force gets very high it will overcome the gravity at a certain point. i mean, a little centrifugal force can lift the sides just as a very high one could force them down aligned with the plan of the rotation, creating a downward force that cant lift the center. I don't have much experience with gyroscopes but i assume that this machine is designed to take advantage of precession, right?
The machine was designed to take advantage of gyroscopic precession. However precession alone isn’t the only ingredient in the recipe.
A lot of people on here ‘assume’ that is the only force at work here but it is not.
Only a few people get it, and more are waking up to the fact that centrifugal force is also acting.
This is mostly my fault. I never tell anybody this because I want people to use their brain and think about it because it takes a lot of thinking to figure all of this out.
I always look at it like this, centrifugal ‘obeys’ N3L, or Newton’s third and gyroscopic doesn’t. It only takes one force to break N3L in order for everything else to no longer matter if it breaks it or not.
So ok, maybe gyroscopes don’t break Newton’s third law but when an object loses its mass and moves upwards against gravity without anything else moving in the opposite direction then this is breaking Newton’s third law to me.
I suppose it’s all a matter of perspective. To me the gyroscope violates Newton’s third law twice.
First if a horizontal force is applied to the gyro then the gyro moves at a 90° angle in reaction to the horizontal force.
Ok so at this point there probably is an opposite and equal ‘ 90° ‘ reaction to the initial horizontal force but the DIRECTION is NOT opposite and equal since it is at 90°.
I do not recall Newton saying anything about DIRECTION in his law but only that there is an opposite and equal reaction.
Secondly the vertical 90° reaction itself DOES NOT cause anything else to move downwards in the opposite direction in any visible way.
You can easily prove this to yourself by hanging a fast spinning gyro by it’s axle with a string. The gyro ‘orbits’ around the end of the pivot like a planet around the sun.
Once you’ve done that then you will see this doesn’t quite adhere to Newton’s third law because you will see that the gyro has lost it’s mass which is why it’s able to orbit freely around its horizontal path!
You see there is a mass transfer from the gyro to it’s pivot. A lot of people don’t get this either, they are blinded by the light. The pivot has now gained all the mass from the gyro.
This enables the pivot to remain immovable because it now has all the mass. It does not move, at least it doesn’t in the opposite direction to the orbiting gyro.
Unless of course you want to consider the tiny little point at the end of the axle that is rotating in a much smaller circumstance, it does not move in any way at all in the opposite direction the the orbiting gyro.
I hope that clears some things up with the gyroscopic force.
The centrifugal force helps the pivot move upwards in the machine and yes it has an opposite and equal force but when combined with the gyroscopic force then the entire machine moves in one direction and ultimately ends up higher than where it started out at.
All without pushing off of anything by the way. So if this process were to occur in space you would have the exact same thing happening.
I haven't tried it but if the wheels are on a loop circle and touching an upper ceiling... The rotor may be CCW but the wheels will be CW. This should cause gyroscopic levitation.
Is the whole thing lighter when operation on a scale? Can you see total mass reduction?
Yes of course. But it must be cycled continuously to maintain the weight reduction. A one off cycle would show a temporary weight loss then return back to normal but it wouldn’t gain weight as if it fell.
The spring tells the story.
What if instead of wheels you used a mercury vortex
Would be awesome to see four counter rotating wheels in a housing that could levítate within a housing that could possibly levítate and direct itself 👍🏾
instead of bolt and spring---maybe puting the two gyros on a third gyro-------MAYBE it would be a significant change if the gyros were traveling at the same speed
I think you should record the exact speed of the gyros when the lift happens and the speed of the rotation and try to replicate it with motors set to that speed on a scale to see if the weight changes
I tried to attempt that awhile back but ended up burning out the motor, it just wasn't strong enough. You wouldn't believe the amount of torque that has to be applied to the thing.
If I had a much stronger motor but I have moved on from this since then. I think it's clear enough, I mean if you think about it a little just look at a simple gyro with it's pivot on the table.
The pivot remains perfectly still in one spot, it doesn't chase the gyro around or anything, especially in the opposite direction. It rotates of course but only in one spot while the gyro rotates around the pivot.
If you think about it further you have to ask how is a heavy gyro moving around something that doesn't have any weight hardly at all without moving it in the opposite direction?
I'm sure you've seen gyros that do no lose nor gain weight, which is normal, so if you place a gyro on a scale as it goes up, then you will see no weight change at all. Again, you have to ask though, you have heavy gyros moving upwards, with no weight change!
Pretty impressive! Don't know much about science so my question maybe a bit silly :
Those gyroscopic devices have to rely on mecanics at some point they will get hot and they can break. Plus you will always be limited on the speed you can apply to it... so is there a way to make a "virtual gyro" that would be all magnetic without any rotating parts? This way you could "spin" it at near light speed?
Just a tought.
Hi there. You ask a simple question with a complex answer. I have given lots of thought to this including what Maxwell said bout repulsive fields being simply a centrifugal force:
There are many forces to a simple wheel, you would be amazed! There are several effects that I am working on at the moment, not like electromagnetic.
can you make a tutorial on how to make this device ???
Secure the arms at their starting position to prevent them from raising up and try it. Alternatively secure the wheels at the elevated angel and spin the assembly in the other direction. In both cases it should be harder to rotate the assembly and the energy has to go somewhere.
Yes you are right the energy has to go somewhere. Unfortunately I’m afraid to say that all the energy goes directly into the center as stress and will break right in half. This would be normal behavior for gyroscopic force.
There has to be freedom of movement in order to allow centrifugal force to work as well.
dont use a screw thread, you need a smooth rod with a little 3 n 1 oil
this isn't antigravity for the same reason that you dont fly away if you jump up in the air and start kicking your feet and squatting. It's just equilibrium
Here we go again defending the status. You only see what you want to see. The pivot in a gyro only rotates in only one position, this allow the *Heavy* gyro to move ahead of it without the pivot moving backwards.
You can easily test this yourself by hanging the pivot from a string and seeing the string does not move in the opposite direction of the gyro.
This then allows centrifugal force to *pull* the pivot upwards. Rinse and repeat.
@@debunkified the mass of the gyros can only go up because the mass in the center goes down. its not levitation.
A lot have been fooled
@@egullSZThe mass goes up in the gyros the mass in the center may _recieve_ the mass but it does not _move_ down. I can not keep repeating this.
@@debunkified breh if they receive the mass then the center of the mass effectively moves up. your words are not making any sense.
The problem is that it cant create enough lift to carry its own weight.
Well done! The double spin like you did does create lift. CW or CCW does matter too. Don't listen to people who say from the couch it doesn't work.
Thanks for that, much appreciated. Actually I am observing something now that I would like others to see but don’t know how to share correctly.
It essentially speeds up under load. It is causing me a lot of thinking to do. Thanks for the comment! 👍
@@debunkified looking forward to seeing this speeding up under load effect
Well, ok. I figured and have seen this much. I tried to lessen the friction down figuring it should be self powering by now, but it just keeps slowing down from the friction. It’s so irritating. It’s clear it speeds up under load, and I guess it’s not enough to over come the friction. Makes no sense to me. How can there be so much friction that the extra energy can’t take care of it?
@@debunkified What are the direction of the spins?
When observing from the top view the left is rotating down and the right is rotating up, or the left is rotating clockwise and the right is rotating counter clockwise, or vice versa.
If viewing from the side, it is rotating clockwise, if the other gyro is rotated around to the same view and position then it will be identical and vice versa.
Video on You tube shut down after 2 months. Peltier module on digital
weigh scales loses weight when powered. John Keely did this type of work
in his shop approx 1892 Philadelphia . He used themocouples /
thermopiles wires of gold, silver + platinum. With array of tuning forks
resonance vibrations applied to mass with wires, and nodes
multiplications, with harmonic ratios, heavy metal would rise up. He
also demonstrated triple sirens flywheels/ floating with resonance
vibrations and ratios. He would speed up rpm with air pressure on side
cups, then slow 2, for sound frequency's ratio. This was also done with
French scientist using large sandwich plates of differing metals at
each end of open dirigible frame, that lifted in air when oscillator
frequencies applied. It was said that Keely got the earth frequency from
Tesla. Tesla didn't like Keely , since Keely got more investor's money
than he did.
Hm, I’ve heard of this kind of thing before but can’t make anything work out of it. Perhaps I should focus on it a little bit more and see what happens. Thanks.
What made you comment this may I ask?
The problem is the power needs to be applied from the mechanism itself and not from outside sources. The gyros and base should be accelerated from a motor, otherwise they are slowing down from the moment you release the motor spinning them up. Still shows the basic concept though
Use
Right hand rule if clock wise is sinking counter clockwise is lifting
So wouldn't this or shouldn't this be called gyroscopic powered wheels and not anti- gravity due to the fact that you observed a zero net gain or loss I weight? Or am I just out of my league here?
There is a gyroscopic force yes. But it is only to aid in the centrifugal force. Centrifugal has an opposite and equal reaction in this case, but centrifugal force alone can have a one way unidirectional for.
The gyroscopic can also have a one-way unidirectional force which is the main concept in this build, where the centrifugal simply helps reset it back to gyroscopic. So, it's an interplay of gyroscopic and centrifugal forces.
There are several different combinations depending on how much linear force is required and how fast. So, there is a loss of weight in this build, however it is only showing one cycle.
The cycle must be repeated continuously.
I wonder why this video never shows them at rest after they've fallen 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
it goes up... because the weights are in free fall and apply to pressure to the sprig, which now only has to lift the center pivot piece and some portion of the connective bar weights. Why are you trying to trick people?
I am not trying to trick people. I am trying to show people, the weights are in free fall due to gravity here on Earth and it is also necessary for centrifugal force to pull the pivot up as the gyros, now not spinning as fast to pull outwards.
Centrifugal forces obey Newton's law in other configurations, while gyroscopic forces seem to violate it as, once again, the pivot never moves down as the gyros rise.
The video is completely honest. The reason I don't show the entire thing is because it would take a away from the main concept of rising higher than where it started.
I've repeated numerous times, over and over again that this initial phase has to be repeated in repetition in order to sustain it, after that yes, of course gravity takes over completely because there are no more phases to keep it up as it's only 1 phase.
have you made improvements, because this one could lift, only when the precessing force generates the torque, if you can provide the torque force too, it will get sufficient force to make lift, but there is a specific setting necessary, your gyro wheels as well as the vertical bolt should spin , where as your gyros should be placed exactly horizontally and not facing downwards, the gyros (the blue wheel). this rod holding gyros should have another vertical rod that prevents the gyro to move from horizontal to vertical position, this restriction making rod is attached to the whole body which is to be lifted, this will lift off the ground when the sufficient rpm is provided. formula of lift is very simple, force of lift in newton is F_L = mass of the gyros * (angular acceleration)^2 * radius of gyros. this is not fully perfect as there is air resistance in act, bearing rolling resistance in act and the gyro rpm will start to decrease gradually.
@@subashinixerox5772 May I ask if this is based on an on the bench experiment?
@@debunkified nope, i have been building it for nearly three years, it takes resources to build a fully working drive
Well I’m sure you know what you are talking about. It seems that you have built some of it. However you haven’t built all of it as it seems, which is ok, but you must have seen something physically to make these assumptions or conclusions about your calculations depending on where you actually stand.
What you have said really doesn’t make any sense to me. The way you describe how the gyros should actually be oriented is a drone like setup, if you rotate that whole thing, including the center as you described I see nothing happening there.
A wheel rotating and then being moved in the same plane of rotation will produce zero torque or lift. Unless of course you cause some type of *_TILTING_* then maybe you could cause a sine wave type movement of the entire thing, but I doubt it.
*_BUT_* , since the gyros would be oriented in the way you mentioned, _drone like setup_ then perhaps centrifugal force would go ahead and lift the pivots at the center (because now the newly oriented gyros would pulll outwards due to centrifugal inertia) simultaneously as the gyroscopic force is lifting the gyros, but the gyros must be able to tilt somehow in some way.
Good experiment with terrible deductions.
The reason the scale moves up is due to the centre of mass shifting when the wheels go down. Both wheels don’t come down at the same time, this creates a centre of mass toward the wheel that is heavier / moving down first.
I think the deductions are AOK. You are referring to the centrifugal forces, which is admirable since most don't even recognize this as all they can see are gyroscopic forces. It's the combination of both.
So yes, there is an opposite and equal force due to centrifugal forces and this is what you are commenting on.
However, this is ok since the gyroscopic force got the *heavy* gyros up without pushing the pivot downward, and then carries through to the centrifugal, which by then it doesn't matter if there is an opposite and equal force pulling the pivot up and the gyros back down, they have to reset anyways for the next cycle, which I do not show.
Ultimately the entire thing is higher than where it started, mostly due to the gyroscopic force pulling the gyros upwards without the pivot moving downwards. This is a mass transfer from the gyro to the pivot.
@@debunkified I think the effect of the spring going up as the wheels come down is not directly affected by the gyroscopic action. As the wheels spin down, the effect of gravity is evident. The two gyros are pivoted away from the centre of their masses. Due to this, the falling wheel will tend to have a torsional force between the wheel and the pivot which tends to lift the pivot up, since the force at the pivot and the force on the wheel are unbalanced along the axis of the shaft connecting the wheel and the pivot.
It gets complicated really fast, doesn't it? The wheels partly fall due to gravity, but in space it would actually be because of centrifugal force pulling the wheels outward and away from the center of rotation.
Since the wheels are above the horizontal plane then they will pull the pivot upwards, *and consequently* pull the gyros downward, *Newton's 3rd* , but only to the horizontal.
The opposite would occur if they were below the horizontal, they gyros would move up, but only to the horizontal and the pivot would be pushed downward.
It is the gyroscopic force that can get the gyros up and above the horizontal without pushing the pivot downwards, as seen in the spring not being pushed down as the gyros lift upwards and inwards.
Try getting a rod or bar of some type and make it horizontal, now tilt the right side upward while leaving the left side at the same point. That would be the gyroscopic force.
Now move the left side upwards and the right side downward just as equally. That would be the centrifugal force, or for the hard headed mixed up frame of minds frame of reference weirdos, *_Inertial Forces._* You will clearly see that the bar is higher than where it started.
Take a simple toy gyro and make it precess on a table, do you see the pivot moving in the opposite direction of the precessing gyro? Most likely not. Same thing. It stays in one spot, that's what enables the combination of the centrifugal and gyroscpic to move everything higher than where it started.@@saveusfromidiocracy35
Eso fue descubierto hace unos 100 años , pero parece que no pudieron darle mucha aplicacion
Oh wow, did you push down against a spring, and when you let go it pushed back up? Good heavens man, you are a visionary.
Show me where there is a spring. Then maybe I won’t delete this comment and flag ya.
What’s the power to weight ratio for this?
Hi, I do not know what the power is. Since this was done all by hand it is hard to understand. I suppose the small resistance in putting a horizontal force into it I order to cause a vertical movement might have been a few to several watts.
I didn’t spend much time weighing it but at one point I do believe it weighted something like between 1 and 3 pounds.
If you are referring to free energy I do not think this is free energy as long as the forces are translational.
It works, now we need to figure out how to make it into a free energy machine or a flying saucer
Yass
needs fission power
I am not an expert, but I have to ask about the spring...why not do the test without the spring? I think that may be providing some of the lifting force.
Hi, the spring is only there as a simple scale as stated in the video. It needs to be there to show that it never gets pushed down. If it never gets pushed down that means the spring never gets any energy stored in it in order to release it for lift, so the spring has nothing to do with the lift.
If the spring wasn’t there then nobody would be able to see if it was actually pushing down first before lifting up, sorta like squatting down first before jumping up in the air with your legs and body. Then the ground of the Earth would be pushing back because you pushed off of it.
If this was pushing off of something first before lifting then the spring would clearly show this occurring, which it does not, therefore it is not pushing off of anything.
In fact without the spring, or with it, if it were to push down on something first then the lift would shoot it upwards towards the ceiling punching a hole through the roof., depending on how hard it pushed down first. The spring would be crushed or compressed all the way plus the force pushing downwards would go beyond the spring and into the table. Then the upwards reaction would be tremendous.
I think it’s good enough that it is lifting upwards against gravity with all that weight without pushing the spring down in any way at all. In this way you can see that it is not pushing down off of anything before lifting.
Gyroscopic force does not move the central pivot in the downwards direction, centrifugal force will however. More like the release of centripetal, since centrifugal really actually doesn’t exist.
I feel like if the central bearing isn't 100% effective, it will engage with the threaded rod in the centre and generate lift from the thread
Good thinking! You’re a thinker. I too thought of this and even though I didn’t make a video of it, or maybe I did, I replaced that central threaded rod with a solid one and got the same results. There is no such thing as centrifugal force by the way, only centripetal. That’s the force that does it all. It’s also free.
@@debunkified awesome thanks for the update. Ive always been interested in how to use this apparent lifft. like maybe you could make the outer flywheels out of batteries, so it kind of nullifies the weight of the batteries? or something like that
Anti gravity wheels will be the next battery storage options in my opinion storing kinetic energy an using fundamental bypassing the laws of gravity with high rpms to gain 8% in overall mass reduction you could use a tripod system and cable to make them go up an down by themselves just by being spun upto high rpm will cause the spinning block to go up in the air that 8% is a lot when gravity is out of the equation
Very interesting comment you just made there. I haven’t responded to anything my lately because I am determined to pay something off right in order to not be a slave to it anymore and to also free up space later time. Where are you getting 8% reduction figure from, it sounds familiar. Describe battery storage idea a little bit more to me.
The weight of the gyros dropping due to cintrifical force (im no english major dont ask me to spell correctly) the outward pulling due to the spin, being connected at the hub the way it is causes it to rise when the gyros stabalize. Def not doing anything special
You are correct as there are opposite and equal forces of centrifugal forces, or more appropriately _inertial force_ for those die hards who don't think it exists, it's just a matter of reference frames. Let's call it a spiral a combination of linear and rotational. Anyways it's the gyroscopic force that allows a heavy gyro to lift upwards without the pivot being pushed down the centrifugal just helps get the center pulled upwards and that's all.
Centrifugal force causes the hinges to align horizontally. The sudden centrifugal force lifts the machine up, like cracking a belt. The gyros are resisting the change of plane when they align vertically, and the force of the spring causes the system to jump for a second. The lift is caused because of the centrifugal force, which quickly pushes the gyros outwards, which in turn causes the hinges ti move to the center position causing a momentary jump.
Cool experiment tho
Nothing like you describe, but not entirely. There is no centrifugal in the beginning of the process. That’s impossible as there can’t be centrifugal force existing with gyroscopic forces simultaneously.
Think a little harder. Centrifugal force on the other hand experiences Newton’s third but gyroscopic does not.
You left out the third axis.
All you did was spin the two wheels in opposite direction.
But you didn't have a device to spin the vertical shaft.
All three must spinning to create the anti gravitational field.
Do you plan on creating a larger scale, ridable prototype?
gyroscopic lift is not antigravity. A force is still being applied even if the physics are not completely understood.
You’re right, but gyroscopic force alone doesn’t do anything, there is another force helping it, but apparently you don’t read comments or the other endless reply’s stating the exact shame thing.
So I will let you do that.
@@debunkified People have been trying this for many many many years with exactly 0 results. Not even Sandy Kidd can make something like this work, no matter how bad he wants to, or how much you believe he did. There simply is no there there. spinning a couple roller blade wheels around is not science.
Shouldn't you fix the giros horizontally rather than let them hinge upwards? Also which direction are the giros rotating? Clockwise, anticlockwise or both different? Probably no difference but it would be nice to think the whole thing could take off!
If the gyros are fixed horizontally then there would be no gyroscopic force if I understood you question correctly. The it would like spinning a normal mass.
@@debunkified as I see it each gyro would want to rise but could not, exerting a force on the centre pivot. However it seems that the idea of providing lift with contra rotating gyros is a no go. If it were that simple it would have been done already
It has been done already. You are thinking about gyroscopic forces. In which that case if the rising gyros try to lift the center one will see that the amount of lifting force is exactly the amount of lifting force of the gyros. This is to be expected with gyroscopic forces.
This is the reason why centrifugal forces are introduced as the gyroscopic forces are only an aid to the centrifugal force. But both forces can no occur at the same time.
It is similar to that is produce on a sticky wall at the amusments rides, but this is cool as with the correct aplication this could be use as a control system in order to be able to create lift in a vehicle that is bound by physical laws. Although if we want anti gravity we need to act in the laws of nature and resonation is key for this I believe your flywheels will have principle but you know why it called flywheel because if it wasnt attach to a physical object it just fly away. And thus flywheel are key to flight but the application in which it is used is not to create the anitgravity but more so to give lift and propell.
there prolly should be three
also there should be a correlation between speed based on 3 6 9 maybe ie. 3146rpm
maybe in octaves of sacred geometry pi, phi, and golden ratio
Where did you get your physics degree sir? DKU?
@@uyegidgg No.
Thanks for making this.
@@peterrenshaw You’re welcome. I know it’s not the best build, but I think it might be good enough to show what I was trying to show and hopefully in an understandable way.
In spanish it is called deriva girocópica.
try with 3 gyro..
Unfortunately no laws have been broken here and this doesn't prove anything. All the forces are conserved and accounted for by the movement of the slope of the gyroscopes as it goes up. However, this was the best attempt to try to get something like this to work that I've seen.
Thanks for that. Yes evverything should be conserved, I don't really recall claiming such. Everything is a one way unidirectional force.
Gyros go up without the pivot moving down, then the pivot moves up just afterwards, although the gyros move down at the time the pivot is moving up, ultimately it arrives at a much higher level than where it started. Plain and simple.
@@debunkified What I was trying to say was that there wasnt a display of lift of the unit. In order for this system to work there has to be a net force one direction. However, keep up the work. Hopefully you find something.
I don’t understand where you observed the machine *.not lifting*. I thought I made it pretty clear that it did lift, even accelerating upwards after the hand was completely removed, which is impossible all in itself.
Perhaps you could watch other similar videos that may show a different perspective of this clear lift without pushing off of anything except it’s own forces.
There are several small incidences all occurring simultaneously and can easily be missed.
I’ve got this written all over the place and so I won’t repeat myself here. Some force involved are gyroscopic and centrifugal.
In fact gyroscopes aren’t even necessary to show the one way unidirectional force.
Great principle converging the motion on to a horizontal plane; perhaps hovering away from Earth once the gyro reaches 11 km/s??
Try 6 gyro scopes next time let me know if the disappear into another dimension.
Instead of wheels, use round batteries that spin, use 12 around, encase it, and you got yourself an electric UFO. Give it initial power and lift on the ground, and maybe it will be able to hover and fly for hours. I am sure it is more complicated than that, but I am allowed to dream, right?
You would need to use a lot of power to cause flight by this method.
the gyroscopes would have to flap up and down thousands of times per minute without even breaking or wearing down.
I concur. I just discovered a method however that can cause a single pulse to send the craft flying through space.
Another pulse would simply double its acceleration. Eventually the speed of light can be reached.
After that, I’m not sure what would happen. Perhaps a breach of time and space.
@@debunkified Uuuhhh where did you find this method? online somewhere, or just through you're own experimentaion?
@@fireball75677 I first started by looking through patents to see what others have done and to get ideas, but none of them were clear enough for me or could explain anything in understandable and simple terms.
So this led me to my own intensive experimentation and then finally to these designs. Hope that helps..
This gives me an idea. Thanks
Your Welcome.
i was thinking about building a electro magnetic coil configuration to try and cause this effect to happen magnetically
audio/frequency is my area of knowledge
Was your finger applying a torque to slow down the spin of the assembly or accelerate the spin of assembly when hub lifted? Seems to me that the gyros would precess downwards like they did during the lift only during a deceleration torque. Can you remember?
Hi,
No, my finger did not apply any other torque except in one continuous horizontal direction. So no, no slowing down of the horizontal torque applied by my finger.
If a slowing occurred or even reversed the gyro would then simply move downwards while leaving the central hub in place just the same as when gyro moves upwards.
I have a request. Could you do similar video to where you are maintaining a spin with finger, and then deliberately input a slowing impulse? Gyros shouldn’t be arcing down with an accelerative input. See if you can recreate lift by doing this………?
@@antigrav1302 If a slowing occurred or even reversed the gyro would then simply move downwards while leaving the central hub in place just the same as when gyro moves upwards.
Man, that just don't make sense to me, uhgg..... If torqueing it up faster, gyros should angle themselves tighter and tighter upward against the stops, not all of a sudden angle downward. I'm really scratching my head on this one if you are experiencing downward gyro precessive angling with more horizontal torque inputed to speed it up further........
In any case from viewing your recent experiments , key to hub lift seems to be when the gyros are are forced to diverge from a steady set angle. You are on to something, keep playing with it, don't quit!
@@antigrav1302 Hey thanks for closely examining the observed facts and taking the time to realize what ‘should be happening.
I’ll help you out a little. Gyroscopes in and of themselves do not lose nor gain weight as you observed in the video.
It’s a difficult thing to think about, trust me, that’s where I went for such a long time, to go find out how, by using my brain, and seeking advice from a master.
Otherwise I would have just given up. One thing about the gyro though is that it rises upward with a, shall I dare to say, a negative weight because it’s obviously accelerating away from gravity instead of towards it.
The catch to that is though is that the central hub then gains that weight as a positive weight, therefore no weight change at all in the entire gyro assembly.
Yet there is no downwards movement of the central hub. I’ve learned a lot and know a lot , but not everything quite yet, I’m still learning believe it or not.
One thing I’m a bit baffled at is, are the gyros actually just lifting up all the non spinning dead weight? Or are they torquing the dead weight as well? Figure that one out and I could quite possibly make a better video for you.
Are you sure the spinning gyro's aren't causing some kind of lift effect?
Hi there, the gyros are causing a lifting effect which is the whole idea. The lifting effect is not only on the gyros but also on the central hub and pivots, all without pushing downwards on a single thing to cause a catapulting effect.
@@debunkified I thought perhaps the spinning gyros were acting like the rotors on a helicopter to create lift. But now I realize that's not it. So I looked it up, and it's called the gyroscopic procession wheel or something. Anyway, the device you've constructed here isn't losing mass or weight, so how do you expect it to achieve flight?
@@samclh9421 Hi, and thanks for doing some research to find out things on your own! This I highly appreciate and I commend you. I can’t say that for very many people right now.
What you read is absolutely correct! Since hardly nobody thinks outside of gyroscopic forces then nobody has the eyes to read what I have been saying repeatedly all along.
Maybe, just maybe, you have the eyes to read what I have to say right here and right now and save you even more searching on exactly where I have already stated this.
So here we go, there are more than just gyroscopic forces at play here. Of course the gyroscopic system in itself does not lose nor gain weight, it stays exactly the same.
This is made evident with the spring acting like a simple scale for measuring weight.
As you can see it does not compress nor decompress which shows us that when in a pure gyroscopic mode the weight says exactly the same.
However, the spring does indeed decompress which is evidence of a weight loss, mind you, all without pushing off of anything first. So there is no springboarding going on or catapulting effect whatsoever.
What I would like you to do is do a little bit more research and find out what ‘force’ is causing the weight loss of the entire apparatus. Here’s a clue, it is not gyroscopic. The gyroscopic force is only a catalyst to set up the next force.
The answer actually lies within the video itself. If you can find this answer then you would have given yourself the knowledge of a machine that can move in one direction without pushing off of absolutely anything. In other words, antigravity.
Let me know when you find out what this force is.
@@debunkified Centrifugal force?
@@Sanestpenji Yes, centrifugal force. You got it. You just maybe the only person that has figured it out. Congratulations!
Experimented with gyros as a teen. I wrapped lead solder on rotors. Achieved weight loss between static and dynamic states. I was a nerdy kid.
"Achieved weight loss..."
No, you didn't.
It is what has been hidden from us.
Put big magnet on the top
Notice the finger is the cause for energy distribution
You forgot to place a period after your well formed sentence.
Engineers need to make anti gravity a thing so we can be like Mario kart
Ha, Mario cart? The original super Mario Brothers was badass. I can like beat that game in two minutes flat, jump through 4 portals and you’re done.
Have you tried using copper and aluminum plates spinning counterclockwise also tryin dissolving some ice cubes in hot water cup nearby the spinning plates maybe that will do something more.
That’s a really interesting concept. What would be the purpose of the hot water and melting ice cube be? An upwards movement of the ice or something to that nature?
The entire structure is getting lifted: 😱😱😱
But the gyros is falling down: 😨😨😨
😂😂😂
Well, you know it's not perfect there's still gravity of course. But that's quite a bit of weight there so I think that's pretty good for just a single cycle. You have to see the entire picture. 😀
Similar to how the ww2 flying saucers worked if you look at the schematics
It's just equalizing the weight, not creating lift