The REAL Reason The Inside Out Cast Was Replaced
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2024
- Inside Out was one of Pixar's most accomplished films. Beloved by both fans and critics, Inside Out was just the latest notch on Pixar's already impressive belt. But when Inside Out 2 was announced it was quickly realied two of the main emotions would not be returning with their original Voice Actors. Why exactly did Inside Out 2 recast two main characters after a proven track record of success? Will fans of Inside Out notice the difference?
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The entire point of the first movie was 'don't let chasing joy control everything', and still they lost the cast feeding too much money into 'Joy'😂
Ironic
So money does bring happiness (joy), and gets rid of fear and disgust? Count me in.
Exactly! She was paid 5 million dollars to return to the role!
Don't hate the player...
@@NerdstalgicPoetic too
At least they kept Lewis Black as Anger, he was MADE for that role
Literally clicked on this video to know if Lewis was still in it!
I feel like Bill Burr could do just as well with it.
And Joy as Amy Polher
True, but I could see Danny DeVito nailing it
I was really happy Phyllis Smith remained as Sadness. I can’t see anyone else playing that part.
Disgust sounded the same in the new film. And no offense, but the new Fear sounded nothing like Bill Hader and it was obvious every time Fear spoke
that's unfortunate
Yes! Disgusting I couldn’t even tell was replaced 😂
Bad decision, Bill was my favorite part of the first movie
Fear new voice actor is Tony hale who's a good actor is his own right but bill hader was a better role to play fear.
Bill Hader was literally essential to the creation of Fear as we know him.
Disney must be really struggling financially after only making $31.2bn last year
That’s not bad
@@jaredfamily123*sarcasm*
@@jaredfamily123😑
@@jaredfamily123, it's sarcasm.
@@jaredfamily123they were using sarcasm
It's giving how Disney treated Robin Williams after Aladdin
He did come back though by Aladdin and the King of Thieves
@@matrix-5466 but he also put in his will or contract saying that Disney can't use his voice or likeness of his voice for anything if he dies 😂
@@kelvins7879 I’ll bet you money that Disney ignores that and does it anyways
@@matrix-5466and then they'd be sued and lose.
Aladdin is what started all of this. before Aladdin there wasn't a whole lot in the way of star power in animated films.
The lesson here is Hollywood pays too much for celebrities and not enough to the people actually making the film.
Seriously, 5 million for Amy? That is absurd.
Yeah, I agree, animators and writers are some of the most under-appreciated when it comes to animated films which is sad
I am growing less and less interested in Pixar as time goes on. Their design style in a number of ways seems to be copying Studio Ghibli and the stop motion animation of Aardman studios. Take a look at any of their Wallace and Gromit movies and Chicken Run to see what I mean.
Gurl FOR REAL
As an animator; hearing about those big name animators’ pays who work around the clock, compared to the VA’s who come in once or twice a week, is absolutely insane
this is why they used to cast people who just did voice acting. Animated films have always cost more to film that just pointing a camera, so it made sense to cut costs and cast people who definitely knew how to voice act, now they rely on star power and spend money for no reason.
@@Zectifinlol they don’t spend money on celebrities for no reason. Time and time and time and time and time again and again and again, celebrities have proven to influence a general audience and most films live and die by the whims of a general audiences interest. There are obviously exceptions but the vast majority of cases over the last several decades has shown that to be the case.
If you want to blame anyone, don’t forget the general audience and the frustrating lack of support for projects that attempt to break out of this mold and the frustrating amount of support for projects that fit this mold.
We are starting to see a decline in the influence of celebrities, for sure, but it’s still a tactic that has a net positive track record for now.
$100,000 for a talent like Hader is such an insult. This is from a company that probably spends that much money on snacks for the break room each year. They expect to make hundreds of millions and they won't even offer 7 digits. WTF?
they used to cast voice actors, then they started trying to get big name actors who weren't as great as voice acting to get butts in the theaters. this is a return to form. I'm fine with it.
@@Zectifin THIS ^^ -- The famous-name casting in animation is such a tired & meaningless trope. Back in the day Disney movies would regularly hire actors who specialized in vocal nuance and brought real life to movies.
I mean yeah i honestly agree.
They may not be the main character but they are still wanted, i feel like 750,000 to a millikn would have been a good idea
At the very least 100,000 with bonuses
$100 Grand is a lot of money, especially for voice acting. I don't believe Amy should have even been paid 5 million. If paying actors that much for their voice was the norm, then studios would have to spend like a quarter or more of their budget on voice actors alone, which is stupid when you consider all the other departments involved on the project.
@@TheGamersDojo It is the norm
The new Disgust is excellent. Unfortunately... Fear ... not so much
Luckily he doesn’t talk much
Y eso de que Tony Hale ya le había dado voz a Forky en Toy Story 4
I'll put the blame on one newcomer: Anxiety.
Honestly I loved the new fear's voice. Especially when he's calm, I can feel those silky tones massaging my ears, pause
it's just Baby Buster
Fear is Hader and when you literally work with a team to build a character from the ground up based on you in a way so that’s leaves a issue when a recast happens
Tony Hale as a replacement does work as Forky was basically Fear and Anxiety combined and turned into a spork.
@@kenthuang436 I forgot Forky existed 😂
1:30 “Inside Out proved the studio still had the magic touch for creating original stories, so naturally development of a second installment started almost immediately “ 😂
Animation, especially quality animation like this take many years to complete.
OH NO WAY that's so funny.
More original stories means more sequels can be made 🏖 YES OF COURSE
I'm okay with Mindy Khaling being recast but Bill Hader leaving got me pissed
Why? What did she do?
This was decided just before Velma premiered, but I like to think the controversy played a part in Disney not considering recasting her a priority.
@@lucinae8510 I'm willing to bet money that it was
@@Emilio-ju1syBring “Velma” into existence
@@Emilio-ju1sy she did "Velma" 😑
Disney basically has a monopoly on media in general and still somehow do not have enough to shell out for bill hader and mindy kaling? Gross.
Casting out Mindy was a good option but Bill Hader??? Yeah imma have to agree on that
"Inside Out 3" will introduce yet another new emotion - Greed.
Honestly, I would rather true voice actors in these smaller roles anyway. While a great talent. Hader wasn’t anything special in the first film. I would venture to guess he had the least lines of any of the emotions. I think there are hundreds of quality voice performers that could have and would be happy to take that role.
That said, Tony Hale is also an awesome talent.
You don't become a monopoly via generosity.
@@Arobert1673 True bit they didn't gte a good replacement for Fear unlike Disgust
I hate when companies pay more for celebrities than actual talent nowadays (not saying Amy isn’t talented, just generalizing)
Exhibit A) Chris Pratt as Mario and Garfield 💀
Chris Pratt was great.
I mean they pay both people either way 🤷
Huh I didn’t notice disgust replacement voice but fear voice change is obvious to me ! Cause I’m big hader fan
Yeah I didn’t even realize they replaced disgust until i was told that, but I was insanely mad for them replacing fear, one of my personal favorites, and they had to make him be the donut guy from the megamind sequel and show, plus being forky
I mean, for animation they should just cast top tier voice actors instead of Celebs anyway. You usually would get an even better voice performance (as it really requires a different skillset) for a fraction of the cost of a big 'Name' even if paying the voice actor on the highest level of what most voice actors earn and making it very rewarding for them. Nobody is going to watch Animated movies based on a celebrity name. I don't think they really even did that much before Robin Williams (which, yes was perfect in that instance) in Aladdin and then it seemed to build from there to where it's not just the occasional character voiced by a once in a lifetime charismatic personality like Robin William to having a movie voiced entirely by Celebs, inflating the cost of those movies and denying voice actors the chances to get those really big jobs in your industry.
People 100% watch animated movies based on a celebrity name. Voice actors are for sure better, but celebrities bring in more money
Celebrities can voice a character but only if the role was actually made for them. Examples being Jack Black as Po, John Goodman as Sully, and Mike Myers as Shrek. But yeah many times random celebrities are used just for name recognition such as Chris Pratt who has a generic sounding voice. Illumination films come straight to mind
It's even worse with german versions of movies - often influencers get cast to voice a character - and that's usually really bad 🙈
@@Spongebrain97Shrek was made for Farley not Meyers
@@manus21 I'm from Germany but I've never heard of an influencer getting cast as a voice actor to dub a movie. To be fair that's probably because I stopped watching dubbed movies in german for over 5 years now. Could you name any recent examples?
Disgust's VA turn down to reprise her role (over the salary dispute) and instead had interest working on an new animated TV series based on a well-known IP...… (shows a poster from Velma) and we all know how amazing that turned out.
That's one hell of a bad call.
She got the last laugh tho cuz that trainwreck ended up getting a second season. And we all know it’s gonna get a third season too.
@@alysssabeareh I rather be known for inside out 2 instead of Velma
@@alysssabearExactly!
What... really? She wanted to be in the Velma show than Inside out 2? I don't want to sound rude but this is a terrible decision... it's not very respectul for Disgust's fans either 🙁Between being in a awful and unfunny cartoon or a good movie, i think the choice is obvious!
Or, hire actual voice actors for animated movies.
Bill Hader IS a voice actor. He has worked on Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, at least 2 different roles in Bob's Burgers, Ice Age, Finding Dory, The Angry Bird movies, Turbo, Sausage Party and many more... Maybe. These are the only ones that I know.
And he's got a wide range of voices, just watch any three of his SNL sketches.
@@aksharaghav9657 I think the OP is saying that most Disney/Pixar movie casts consist of people who were already famous as live-action performers, while folks who make their living voice acting get passed up in favor of famous names. It wasn't the case before the '90s. Bill Hader is kind of an outlier, and more of an exception that proves the point.
@aksharaghav9657 they're referring to the days when Disney didn't hire known celebs for VO work. Yes, Hader has done a lot, but that's because of that trend. Pre Aladdin, all of those animated films would have been done by unknown VO actors and we would never have known. I love Hader, but honestly I didn't realize it was him in Inside Out until several rewatches
wouldn't that be a dream
Tickets sell better for these bigger movies if it’s a marketable voice cast to the general audience
To be fair Mindy Kaling is absolutely notorious these days.
she's been absolutely horrible for the Velma crap she's pulled.
Yeah dudes are mad
@@Joecbg100can someone explain what happened with her. I wanna be informed lol
@@nosir1440Velma
@@nosir1440 two things
- Velma
- Openly admitting to committing SA on live TV
The original voice actor for Riley is really chill (I’ve spoken to her a few times)
Shame she wasn’t brought back considering a VA obviously doesn’t have to LOOK the part and plenty of adults can play child animated characters
But, still, the new one was really good in this role.
@@user-fm9yk8tz7q really good at getting paid for so more profit for us shareholder
But would SHE have done it well?
For everyone saying without them it’s a bad movie…it’s not.
Yeah i wasn't watching it and going "hmmm, that doesn't sound like fear!" I didn't notice even though I already knew their roles changed lol.
@@viceversaanimates7398 fr
It’s not a bad movie, but it’s bad to treat the og VAs like that.
true ita still a very good movie
@@user-zm8bo5wu5feveryone seems to agree Mindy's treatment was deserved.
I just saw the movie last night (Thursday previews and all), and I got used to Disgust’s new VA in no time.
However, even though I was laughing at Fear several times, I could never fully get the image of Forky out of my head.
So there. That’s my two cents, removed from the payment issues that led to this
Completely agree. Disgust - great performance. Fear - oh dear.
Tony hale is a good actor in his own right but bill Hader was perfect for his role as fear.
@@helpfulplaylists3933 totally agree, he's great but not in this role
I can agree on that. Tony Hale’s performance as Fear is just Forky again, but Forky’s voice is coming out of Fear’s mouth.
No more flint lockwood as fear😔
@@nicolasmartinez795 I'm not surprised I heard this in Earls voice🤣
@@Fenyxclips”FLINT LOCKWOOD”
I LOVED Bill Hader as Fear so I'm super disappointed he was replaced tbh.
Bill Hader's slightly out of budget ever since Barry!
he did the work!
He’s disappeared from a few roles he was voicing beforehand.
Yes he did! Barry is one of the best shows I've seen in the last decade.
Funny in Cantonese version, they only replaced Joy and keep the rests
lol
I admired Bill Hader's voice as Fear, he nailed that role.
I'm unsure about seeing the 2nd film because I was quite attached to how he embodied that character.... what an odd choice for the studio to make. I thought it was due to a Tweet or something but just wanting better pay? Come on Disney.
Friendly reminder that Kaling is yet another Hollywood celebrity we’ve let get away with severe misconduct.
In her case, she sexually assaulted a co-star, and upon concerns by crew, threatened to use her position of power to fire those who may have reported her.
We know this because she joked about it on live TV.
Kaling is gross, tone deaf, and her writing is repetitive and reductive. I cannot understand why she keeps getting to make shows
@@pineapplegamer6986 Cuz of her ethnic background and shes a woman
@@pineapplegamer6986Simple, she checks all of the DEI boxes.
@@iceman00behave Ezra Miller only checked off exactly one, being white and nonbinary. Same with Amber Heard, a white bi woman only checking two. Is Kaling LGBT? Because if not she'd only check two of the boxes herself, woman and POC.
Diversity
I’m not gonna lie, I thought the guy who is playing Fear in the sequel already was the guy who played Fear in the original 😅
…how?
@@The_Prog_Rocker The voice fits the character, and considering the fact that Inside Out came out 9 years ago, and Fear barley had any lines in the first movie, the voice actor change isn't noticeable until you compare it to the original. Another good example of this happening is the show Star vs. The Forces of Evil, they recasted one of the main characters because the old voice actor did some terrible things, and they replaced him with Keith David. He didn't even attempt to do the same voice, going for his own take on the character, but since it fit the character you wouldn't notice unless you were actually comparing the two voices side by side.
I thought the same thing. He was perfect
@@andywinslow9638 that’s funny because I could IMMEDIATELY tell it was Tony Hale and not the original
It ACTUALLY Makes Much More Sense that Mindy Kaling Didn’t Return because of “The Infamous/Notorious Velma Show” which led to us going “Jinkies” in to OUR “Disgust”.
Agree
that is legit the stupidest thing i’ve heard all of you say
@@numberjuan469Kaling did burn bridges both with the audience in general and the money people in Hollywood because of the disaster that was Velma. Also, the story goes that the disgust character she plays isn't an act, it's her playing herself.
Agreed
@@jameydunne3920 I believe her 😂
Here is an idea, cast voice actors in animated movies to do voice work........ Not hoard all the roles to A listers?
Agreed. Pixar can carry a film just fine, they don't need that marketing ploy.
Bill Hader *is* a voice actor
@@michaeljohnson6905 Same problem with Chris Pratt, doesn't have much vocal range to be any different in voice role.
I mean does it matter? A voice actor is a voice actor.
@@assassin8636 An actor who is trained in vocal performance and has more range to make animated characters with more personality.
hireing celebrities for VA has always look a waist of money, just hire professional VA, children would not notice it
Hader is more of a professional than a celebrity.
Sometimes they do it because kids do recognize actors. Most kids recognize the name Chris Pratt in everything and want to watch his movie. Some actors are good voice actors like Steve Carrell. I don’t think movie studios want to bank on not having a star vs having a star which is why voice actors get tv cartoon roles instead
Robin Williams
Bill Hader *is* a Voice Actor
@@pineapplegamer6986kids? The grownups, maybe. What kid cares about celebrities? And who wants to recognize an actor instead of seeing the character?
Watched the movie and until this video I had no idea they had changed the cast
Yeah, the first movie was mainly Joy and Sadness. The only other one who couldn't be easily replaced was Lewis Black as Anger.
Wasn’t Mindy Khaling the same person who made that Scooby Doo series without Scooby Doo?!
Yes, yes she was.
Her friend plays a race swapped Shaggy.
They made 860 MILLION DOLLARS and was still spending less than 10 million on talent. Joy should have at least made 20 million and the rest 10+ million.
Pure greed on the part of Disney.
And the conservative right wing anti SJWs blame wokeness.
I'm not sad Mindy's not back, but Bill Hader only getting 100k is just DUMB.
This is interesting. As much as I love Hader and Kaling in their respective works, let's not forget that this whole "star power" voice acting thing was a trend that started with Robbin Williams in Aladdin and has since made VO work for actual VO actors very difficult.
Don't get me wrong, no one could do what RW did in Aladdin, but in all honesty animation goes overboard with casting celebs to do work that any pro can do. As much as I loathe Disney decisions, I actually understand these. It's an expensive frivolity.
Who voiced Belle in Beauty and the Beast? Who voiced Ariel? Tarzan?
If it was made today, Belle would be voiced by someone like Taylor Swift, and can you say looking back that's what that film was missing?
Nah. Paige O'Hara could sing just like Jodi Benson. The thing what's missing from the recent voice actors is a man that helped make a new generations with Broadway Musical implemented in animation. The man is Howard Ashman. A guy that not only came up with the idea but chose real voice actresses from Broadways. And he also lectured them how to sing specific parts. Until you get it right,you had to repeat it over and over again. Now? They barely can sing(Emma Watson) or wants to highlight how they can sing instead of focusing how that character should feel at that moment(Halle Bailey) If he was still alive,Aladdin would have been different. All of his song he wrote for the movie was scrapped the moment he died. Some still somehow survived in the Musical version. So in other words what's missing today are talent AND passion for your work. Someone who care enough to control the project.
Tarzan's voice actor was already a movie actor when he got the role so i don't think that's a good example.Since Aladdin,every voice actor is celeb or well known movie actor.
What's missing from today's Beauty and the Beast is a faithful release of the original Motion Picture with faithful color palette.
And what's missing from the live action version is Heart. The whole thing is mean-spirited soulless shallow mess of a film. And i watched in my local cinema at valentine's day. It was everything bot not romance oriented movie.
@@benceszarvas5464 Thank you for your addition. Yes! And again, yes!
Scott Weinger voiced Aladdin he was also Steve in Full House and its sequel Fuller House Tony Goldwyn voiced Tarzan and Jodi Benson voiced Ariel
@@patrickdornoff2735 how about kurt russel in the fox and the hound?
Okay I honestly really loved Tony Hale's portrayal of Fear
I couldn’t get the image of flint Lockwood as fear from the first movie out of my head 😭
I wonder if Riley's original voice was casted in another character in the sequel like Nemo's first voice actor did since she was too old to reprise her role.
That Happens All The Time
Kaitlyn Dias is still Riley in Inside Out 2. So no.
*cast
@@peterrealar2.067 why are you lying
@@mickidoesmedia I'm not lying. Check the Wiki. Literally the same girl.
Well it didn't work out for Lightyear
yuupppp
Actually, Chris Evans did very well playing a very different version of Buzz. It made sense why he was recast. Because it's not the same Buzz.
@@NeoConnor1Agreed. Chris is the "original" Buzz and Tim is the knock off voice box for the toy.
@@gamestation2690
Pretty sure that's not what they meant.
@@gamestation2690 It's more like saying tickle-me-Elmo is a knock-off of Elmo. (I don't actually know if they used the same voice, though.)
I love iconic animation voice actors as much as anyone, but studios don’t have to fill the cast with live action actors. No need to pay that kind of money when you have super talented animation voice actors that can do the job very well. I understand having an A-List actor to headline the movie, but the surrounding cast does not have to be other popular actors.
I mean it doesn't matter either way just voice the character and you're done
Poehler probably had, like, 20 times the amount of dialogue to record as the other actors. Of course she's going to get compensated significantly more.
Yeah seriously - she's like, the star of the movie lol
The difference between 5 million and 100 thousand is about 5 million. That’s kind of a slap in the face, especially for established actors.
Worse still, yeah, she recorded more dialogue… that the other two actors *worked on* in the original film. They did a hell of a lot more than just read a few lines. Which he discussed for like 1/5th if the whole video lol
I would've accepted it, but I can see why the other cast members might've been offended by it or thought it not worth their time. It reminds me of that envious monkey experiment
You are not wrong but, as mentioned in the video, the first movie made $860 millions. Paying the rest of the cast one or two millions each to reprise their roles would have meant peanuts for Disney.
To quote Michelle Pfeiffer Amy Poehler did the film for free she's being paid to promote the film and she has been working very hard.
Hearing all they contributed for the 1st movie. I respect them. For not returning. Thats jacked up.
I didn’t even notice when watching in theaters! But now that you mention it I don’t know how I didn’t catch fears new actor.
Why wouldn't they just evenly distribute the funds amongst the voice talent? Instead of $5M just for Amy, do $1M each. It's still plenty of money.
Come on it takes a few seconds to realize why that wouldn’t make sense
Not every emotion is featured equally in what world would it make sense to pay anger 1 million dollars for 3 weeks of work and joy 1 million for 3 months of work😂
💲💲💲=JOY
Hence, proved
5 million and 100k is a huuuuge difference. Disney could actually give 1 million to the other actors that would be fair imo.
Only two VAs were replaced, stop the clickbait
You mean 40% of the main cast….
It isn’t click bait
@@everardomartinez3886 It's only 16.667% of the main cast. Even though he's more apparent, the Human Characters actually had pretty big roles in the film, and there are also 4 new emotions added. It's really small and hard to notice TBH if you're not directly comparing them.
Actually Riley's VA got replaced too, not I'm not sure if it's the same reason or not.
@@nobblkpraetorian5623 it was an age thing. The original actor was 14-15 when they recorded their lines, but now they’re 25. The new actor is 15, which is Riley’s age in the film.
so good! this video made me turn on notifications for your channel
I really like Tony Hale as a voice actor. He was great as Forky in Toy Story 4, and I liked him a lot as Doctor Psycho in Harley Quinn. However, he's not Fear. Bill Hader put so much effort into Fear that hearing someone else do the voice is distracting. For Disgust, as much as I loved Mindy Kaling in the first one, the voice work she has done recently has been kinda... not great. I don't like her in Monsters at Work, and I hate her in Velma. Whatever the case may be, it was stupid to recast both of them, because they were both fantastic.
Mindy has also done some messed up stuff
I thought fear sounded a little high-pitched but didn't notice the change with disgust. Doubling the cast probably helped to make those changes harder to dwell on.
I gotta say the change took like a minute to get used to. I thought something was off though
Bill Hader is arguably a bigger name than Amy Poehler and he only got offered 100 bands for a whole ass movie? The disrespect for officer slater is insane
I mean, are you going to pay the supporting character with 20 lines the same price as the main character with 200 lines?
Flint Lockwood deserves more than 100k lets be real
@@Isuckatvideogames210 Most definitely, he's got the star power behind him, but his role in this movie doesn't require it. Hence why they easily replaced him.
@@Isuckatvideogames210”Ratbirds”
@@chordalharmony spray on shoes
It's despicable to recast so many of the emotions because they didn't want to take the smaller wages. Disney is making bank on the release of Inside Out with all the added things like merch and the spotlighting in their parks with Inside Out themed restaurants, but they can't bother to pay their voice actors? Laughable and greedy.
Hollywood seems to do this a lot, they recast some of the chicken run cast in the sequel and didn’t even offer one of the original actors a chance to audition for it
While I am bummed Hader won't be returning as Fear, not much of the same can be said for losing Kaling as Disgust, especially after...well, y'know...That show that begins with "V" and can be seen on Max as opposed to a hard-worked-on-and-completed film with a Coyote...
I don't like Velma and I've never watched it. I personally don't even like Kaling, but that doesn't how Disney treated her and Hader okay.
We can't normalize big companies low balling their talent just because we don't like the people it has affected so far.
Phyllis only got $100,000 don’t make her call Bob
Ngl I didn't even realize the voice actors were replaced. Maybe because it's been a long time since I've seen the first. It is much more obvious when comparing between the two movies, so if you're watching the two in sequence it'll be a little jarring
1:08 WAIT WHYD I JUST REALIZE PHYLLIS VOICED SADNESS.
That was interesting! Thank you 🙏🏻
Recasting shouldn’t even be allowed as a negotiating tactic. Everyone involved in a piece of art like inside out is a contributor, and they should be given that credit, and the respect of both being told they’re easily replaceable. They’re not.
So the filmmakers should just have to pay the actors whatever amount they ask for? This comment makes no sense. Pixar offered them compensation, they declined. Pretty straightforward
@@JohnTBaldwinyes. They should. It's not like they can't afford it.
Even though Disgust is my favorite character, Mindy Kaling is not my favorite actress, so I was thrilled with the change. I don't think Fear or Disgust really needed an established actor for their voices, since the movie is focused on Joy, Sadness, and, now, Anxiety.
Honestly this might be what animation needs. They don’t need to cast major celebrities ALL the time for marketing purposes. It’s supposed to be about characters, not the people behind them. It’s part of why animation has lost some of its magic. I can’t watch Super Mario Bros without only hearing the famous faces behind the characters, and that’s just one instance. I hear Chris Pratt, not Mario. Seth Rohan instead of Donkey Kong. In Inside Out, I hear Lewis Black and not a separate character. It’s frustrating sometimes to have EVERY CHARACTER be a famous face/voice. Robin Williams knew what was up with that.
“Wow” is all that comes to mind
Part of the charm of Inside Out was the cast! The first movie was such an exciting event.
I’m excited for Inside Out 2!
Maybe, but what do you say to all the other countries that dub? The US voices DONT MATTER SH*T to us. Not even the songs. Im not saying that the US version wasnt good or wasnt excelent, but its just a percentage of the overall margin. Google says English makes up less than 20%. Sure still a lot, but more than 80 % gives A F if Amy Pholer or whatever does the US voice for the movie.
You don't realize that the largest audience for these movies is the United States?
@@FishwicksREAL I didnt say US market wasnt existent, anyway I looked up the data from Frozen and 70% was box office income from FOREIGN countries. Youre ignoring that???? Lol.
@@PiratDunkelbart .... You do realize that means 30% IS domestic? The foreign market is literally EVERY other country grouped together.
Here's the other English countries which comprise a fair share of the international gross of Frozen.
- Australia
- New Zealand
- Hong Kong (shown in both English and Cantonese)
- India (same as Hong Kong, but with various Indian languages)
- United Kingdom
- Nigeria and other formerly British African colonies
Now take that into consideration and realize that the second largest market for Frozen, in Japan, was just over half the domestic share.
The largest SINGLE income for Frozen was the American release.
Please educate yourself.
@@PiratDunkelbart This doesn't even factor in the fact that Japan, the second largest market, simultaneously showed both ENGLISH DUB (with Japanese subtitles) and a Japanese dub for Frozen.
That means that there are a considerable amount of people in Japan who, again, watched the film with the English VAs.
They are vital.
At least awkwafina isn’t voicing any of the roles
Agree d
I didn’t notice the change
I like Tony Hale but gonna miss Bill Hader in the role of Fear
I missed both voices in the new movie
Yeah, those in the know of animation news aren’t losing sleep over Mindy not reprising her role. What a terrible and spiteful individual.
Have sex bro, it's just a cartoon
Preach, bruh.
Buster Bluth as Fear is perfection 🤩
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This is where the voices are different.
Disney won’t spend money on great voice talent but will spend $200M on a Star Wars show about Lesbian Space Witches?
I think there’s at least two factors not mentioned.
For Kaling, I think how genuinely dreadful Velma is has killed whatever marquee appeal she may have had. Regardless of how ideal she was for the role (personally, I think she was by far the weakest link in the original cast) there is an extent to which she may now be an albatross to the commercial prospects of any project she’s in because of how strong the anger is towards Velma.
For Hader, his time doing Barry has established him as a much bigger talent than he was when he first played Fear. To say it differently, he went from being a cast performer on SNL to being a potential guest host of it, and that level of star power increase likely means a big pay raise, and ultimately may result in it just not making financial sense for Pixar, especially if they can get someone like Tony Hale to replace him (I mean, how can Buster Bluth not be Fear? It seems even more natural to me than Hader was, and also reflects the shifts in both their careers, as Hader’s rise parallels Hale seeing less success since Veep ended).
A final thought- I think these changes can work well artistically, as the idea could be that as we age, the nature of our emotions change, so perhaps they can reflect that with the change in actors. Keeping Poehler as Joy is mandatory as she is the protagonist and we need some continuity as an audience, but all the secondary emotions (except for maybe Sadness) could evolve into new versions that are better performed by other performers, even if the originals were perfect for the original (and I find that statement dubious w respect to Kaling).
Still, Inside Out 2 was developed and cast well before Velma's release, so I don't really think that plays a factor. Hader, though, I can very much see him just pricing out Disney given how much bigger he is now than he was in 2015.
@@MrRapmaster19see I think Velma very much was a factor. Say what you will for Kaling as a comedian, she had enough pull to get Warner Bros to agree to an R rated iteration of one of their biggest children’s franchises and have her write, produce and star in it. Maybe she did feel like she was worth more than they were offering, when you get that kind of agreement with a major studio you would feel somewhat bigger
I disagree with velma's quality lead to her being not hired in inside out 2. Most likely happened disney offered peanuts to reprise her role in inside out 2 while in velma she's the main character there and most likely better salary.
While I agree with you, you can’t replace Lewis Black.
@@ClassifiedRanTom I saw the movie yesterday, and Lewis is still playing Anger (and Phyllis Smith is still playing Sadness).
Honestly, I really liked Tony Hale as Fear even if it was mainly because he played it very close to original run of Arrested Development (on Fox, not Netflix) Buster Bluth, and I can’t say I would have necessarily noticed that Disgust wasn’t Mindy Kaling had it not been pointed out as a difference going into the movie.
But, I do agree that once Lewis Black was cast as Anger, it would be damn hard to recast it.
Maybe unpopular opinion, but 100k seems fair to me for voice-acting a movie. I can't imagine paying an actor 5 million for any role
Money. Also, Inside Out 2 was the ad before this video lol
I think Americans place too much importance on the name and celebrity status of voice actors. While some actors contribute significantly to character conceptualization, that is more of a writer role. The voice itself can be replaced, though many might argue otherwise.
Um people like celebrities that's why? It's not that hard to understand so why complain
They sounded the same to me
In the sequel, I was surprised that Bill Hader, the voice of Fear, got replaced.
I watched inside out for the first time Friday, and inside out 2 in theaters Saturday. Literally watched them back to back and I had absolutely no idea they were recast. Made 0 difference to me. I would’ve never known if this video didn’t happen. Crazy how easy it really is for them to replace someone without me noticing. I actually love bill haders stuff too.
I thought they changed Disgust's VA because of the controversy that Mindy had cause of Velma.
The new Disgust works, but I prefer Anxiety so much better over Fear. I like him the least.
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Disgust REALLY makes a face that says "Yeah, not happening".
Considering how much extra work Bill Hader put into not just his character but also additional story scenes, aiding the team in Inside Out's development, it comes across as incredibly disrespectful to Bill Hader since it makes his involvement seem unappreciated by Disney/PIXAR. And there's no reason they couldn't lower Amy Poehler's $20 Million Dollar paycheque to say $10 Million so that Bill Hader, Mindy Kailing & Lewis Black could all receive a better pay.
Unfortunately, we don’t need actors in animation. Give the roles to REAL voice actors
anybody can voice act
100% agree (however Bill Hader is totally qualified to be a voice actor, the others just sound like themselves)
@@thestank3 You haven't watched enough animation, then. There's a LOT of bad voice acting out there.
@glarryg2318 i mean yeah and even "real" voice actors can do a bad job.
Voice actors and actors are the same. You're using everything about you when acting, including your voice.
No bill hader = bad movie
true
This was the problem with Jurassic World 2.
Tbf, it'll be better w/o Mindy, seriously read up what she did behind the scenes of the office
@@michaelboydston313 What about behind the scenes of inside out?
It actually was a good movie
i feel like fear and disgust had perfect actors before
Mindy and Bill both have leveled up in terms of stature after Inside Out, and Disney should have compensated them as such.
Mindy has lost pretty much her entire reputation, she would have been recast anyways.
Hader and Kalling deverved better 💴
they really did
Yeah, Disgust and Anxiety were the best.
Disney holds the purse strings and therefore Pixar’s hands are tied. Michael Giacchino also did not return to score the sequel, perhaps due to budget limitations as well?
Recasting actors in sequels because of budget, timing, PR, and/or creative/personal decisions on either side is absolutely nothing new. Look at Rachel in Batman Begins/The Dark Night, Genie in Aladdin/Return of Jafar, Mr. T's police officer character in Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, Grindelwald in Fantastic Beasts, Abe Sapien in Hellboy, Rhodey in Iron Man, Evelyn in The Mummy/Dragon Emperor... The list goes on and on.
I mean, your answer proves it is very much a mixed bag. You have Rhodey in the MCU, where the change actually improved the character (same for recasting Ruffalo for Ed Norton- the MCU has generally done pretty well with recasts) and allowed for better chemistry/comedic timing between Rhodey and Tony. You have Rachel in the Nolan Batman movies, where the change feels so minimal that if an audience member didn’t know it happened just by watching the movies, it shouldn’t surprise anyone. And you have the case of Genie in Aladdin, where Robin Williams’ original performance quite frankly should have at least been nominated for the best supporting actor Oscar and where every attempt to recast it has been dreadful in comparison, whether we are talking the straight to VHS sequels or the live action remake, and resulted in nothing else in the franchise being even half as good as the original.
It proves recasting can be done effectively, but you have to be very careful to not recast someone like Williams who basically WAS the character.
Was it greed?
It was greed.
I always love it when articles and videos are like "here's the REAL reason this happens" and the answer is just "money"
It probably won't show in the movie, in particular if the characters now share screen time with other new emotions, but if this was a TV show their creative input for sure would be missed after a while.
Losing bill for the second movie sucks because his voice is so good and iconic but Kelley i am ok will mostly, that's because she created vellma. In reallistic world they would be payed what they deserve but that's disney for ya'.
as unfortunate as Bill Hader not coming back...i'm honestly ok with Illegal Velma not coming back
I was ok with that too until I heard Disgust sounds similar to Joy
This may sound silly, but I actually really hope this means a higher emphasis on voice actor talent, as opposed to celebrity talent. (Now, that doesn't mean they should get paid any less for equal work, but I think that celebrities come with a higher price tag to offset their opportunity cost for bigger projects.)
I watched the movie last night ngl I didn’t even notice they got recasted and they had a good amount of line too
I don't like seeing "highly accomplished writer" Mindy Kaling mentioned in the same breath as Bill Hader.
but she is an accomplished writer? she probably wrote your favorite episode of the office
@@mariad8523 She wrote Velma. That says it all.
She is more accomplished and awarded than Bill Hader. And they both are more so than you.