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- Finally! Yes yes yes yes yes, this one was genuinely eye opening! Which one of these two cars would you choose to own, or simply just to drive?
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Just by your face mark , It seemed you expected more I think yours is the better car
Cracking vid as normal
It's not that I expected more...I was actually struggling to process what I was feeling. I think I can best describe the mk2 as being far far greater than the sum of its parts. The engine? Meh. The styling? No thanks. The noise? I could live without it. The front diff? Very special but easy to manage without. What Ford have done with the mk2 is brought all those things together and blended them really really well into something quite special. I was actually quite surprised how I felt about it as a car at the end! I can see why so many adore them...even though, as you say, the mk3 is a more capable car.
But the mk2 hasn’t had 2 engines and will last 4 times longer 😂
Mk3 sounds like garbage, mk2 all the way!
I went from a Mk2 RS to a Mk3 RS and I have to say I miss my Mk2 RS. The engine noise the turbo hiss. Sure the mk3 is a better car to live with. Sat nav etc. But the experience of the Mk2 wasn't beaten by the mk3. Also the looks of the mk2 the"phat" rear arches just look awesome. The 5c engine sounds awesome.
I purchased my mk2 for £22k 13k miles in 2012. I sold it in 2016 for £21k with 39k miles. One of the best purchases I will ever make.
That's cheap motoring Stuart! Will mine cost me a smilar amount over my ownership? Time will tell.
@@MarkCup70 circa £8000.00 in fuel For the miles covered
Worth every penny. 🤑
In my eyes the older rs is the better looking car it looks like a beast where as the new one tbh if u don't know what it is its just a focus. But you can't beat the technology and and quality of the new one, I personally do hate artificial sound being pumped into the speakers though.
Then unplug it
Fascinating. Thank you both for a very informative comparison!
On the road the MK3 RS does not turn heads, it just looks like everything else on the road, the MK2 however has a presence and a sound that’s worth more than the sum of the specs
Yes indeed sir ..Amen
Either car would put a crick in my neck. Of course, only MK3 is/was sold here but I never see it.
Not really, I'd say it's the other way.
I don't bother turning my head for the mk 2 as it's just basically a modded ST.
It didn't even sell that well for that very reason, I'm confused at why people have the opinion you have.
It's just an effing ST with wide arches, a bigger turbo and different clutch/gearbox.
Which is all stuff you can do to the mk 2 ST.
The mk3 is actually a much better car, it has 4x4 so harks back to the Cosworth days, it's not just a modded ST like the MK2.
I also think the mk3 has much more road presence and turns more heads, it's the new Escort Cosworth.
Why Notagain the MK2 didn’t sell that well?! It sold out its entire UK allocation (c.4000 units)!! In fact it sold far more here than anywhere else! I appreciate how you feel about the car is subjective, but it’s way more than a “modded ST” and if you’re going to hit it with that stick, the MK4 ST shares the same engine as the MK3 RS. The MK2 RS was the last class-leading hot hatch Ford produced - the MK3 trailed both the A45 and RS3. Anyway, the proof of the pudding is in the residuals - MK3s have suffered way more depreciation than the MK2 did at the same point, and this will only continue given how many were sold here and the well-documented reliability issues. And please do not compare the MK3 to the mighty Escort Cosworth - a road car with an engine of true racing pedigree that could safely handle double the power.
@@jayrave4
Each to their own!
I think you'll find most true petrol heads, who actually enjoy driving and have owned 4x4 and rear wheel drive sports cars would have the same opinion as me.
Compared to an all wheel drive or rear wheel drive car, the MK2 RS handles like a piece of shit, all that torque steer is just not fun or enjoyable at all.
The MK3 RS handles like a fast car should...
End of conversation!
You can't really compare an on rails 4x4 with a cack front wheel drive car and say the front wheel car is better.
I suppose you're one of those people that take their rear windscreen wiper off too, as it looks nicer apparently. Lol
Future residuals will be telling... there were fewer mk2 RS cars built/imported.. plus, the Mk2 really was the last of the proper hardcore looking rally weapon. Wide arches, bonnet vents, 5 cylinders, lairy colours (mine is green) etc.... But I hate to be a ‘this is Better than the other’ kind of guy. The Mk3 was built as a more global world wide platform. My RS was around £25+> new, and yet its now 8 years old and still cost me £23k last year... Mines a keeper. It’s currently running REVO 2 with a Milltek exhaust and decat, but as I only drove 300 miles last year in my mine as a 2nd car....I have purchased a KMS Section 18 to fully realise that Quattroesque noise. Just need to get around to fitting it.
One other thing.. we recently moved house, and I followed my fiancées Audi A1 on the A1M.....and she said my RS with its xenons on looked very intimidating in the rear view mirror.
Edit: Yep, I’m guilty of looking at my RS more than driving it..eg, 300 miles in 12 months. Oh the shame.
I have been waiting months for you to do this video , so thank you. Although I anticipated what your thoughts might be, in so much as you still preferring your own car , ( Technically it is a better car ) The MK3 RS is a more polished , practical easier car to live with on a daily basis, the the traction available makes it a very capable , easy car to drive .
I did my mechanic apprenticeship in the mid 80's and was a RS mechanic working on the iconic Sierra Cossworth etc, for me the MK2 is closer to the spirit of those earlier Ford RS models, I think its probably the best looking car made in the last 20 years ! and the noise from the 5 cylinder makes the hairs on my arms stand up ! . I also like the fact that you do have to think about how hard you push ( especially in the wet ) and you cant just plant the throttle whenever you want . Sometimes more polished , capable cars are less fun to drive. You only have to see some views on the Golf R , hugely fast , just lacking in excitement .
I do enjoy the comparison videos between the Mk2 & 3..... I really like the Mk3, but......the Mk2 especially in ultimate green wins all day for me. Love it, the looks and the noise..!
I enjoyed this comparison.... great content Mark. I'd still stay with my MK3
Another good video Mark! I enjoyed the comparison between the two beasts. I know all those roads you were driving on as I often take my 2018 fiesta ST out onto them and their brilliant. Let me know if you fancy doing a review of my fiesta ST as I think I recall you saying you would like a go in the new one. 👍🏻
I’ve commented on both these cars before. Both fantastic vehicles, but the mk2 wins out for me. Purely in looks and the sound of the fabulous 5 cylinder Volvo engine, pure music to my ears 👍
Excellent video. It seems the Mk2 RS is a more raw driving experience whereas the Mk3 is a refined one. Interesting to hear the Mk3 RS is now going up in value despite the engine recall issues. I put it down to more demand for sleeper hatches in the 2nd hand market. Cheers.
Love the channel mate.. subscribed.. recently got the fiesta ST3 and loving every minute of it.. soon to put the mp 215 on it
Honestly don't do it mate, it's a waste of money. Either go to another tuner or if you're worried about warranty just wait it out. It is way too expensive for what it is.
I own a 215 and its a great improvement over stock with maintaining the warranty. Im now considering the CP2 and forfeiting tha last years warranty or really the 330r hybrid but thats going to be a little more expensive. I think the CP2 looks like the cheapest bang for buck.
Ha ha. I had to use the “family car” selling point also. Great vid.
Great video Mark. Pity about the sound in the Mk3 I found it really hard to hear the comments. My story. As an owner of a Capri RS3100 (yes one of those 248 built) and having to sell it to purchase a house 30 years ago. I promised myself to one day buy another RS. 2010 I bought a new Ultimate Green Mk2. Still own it done 35k Kms. Last year I bought the Mk3 in NB. The mk3 is my daily the mk2 my weekender. Absolutely love the technology of the new car. Feels so planted and with a Dreamscience map gives it a little more punch. When the new RS comes out I might but it and trade the Mk3. But the car I could never sell is the Mk2. The presence of that car is amazing. It's more analogue than the digital Mk3, more raw. It's a real event to drive it, particularly with it's bluefin stage 1 tune, makes it a more dramatic drive.
Both great cars !
Great video 👍🏻
I had a mk2 with 400 bhp, great car, but annoying with wheel spin up to 3rd even if slightly damp, I now have a mk3 with similar power, best handling car i have ever had, which you have shown Mark on how capable it is round the track 👍
But I do miss the Mk2 for the noise of the 5 pot and Thunderstorm exhaust....that was awesome 😎
I had the ultimate green LUX2 MK2 for 6yrs and traded for the MK3. The perfect combo would be the looks and sounds of the MK2 but the performance and modern features of the MK3.
Great video Mark. This was enjoyed with great anticipation. I’m so pleased you got to drive the mk2. However for me, I’m going to stick with the mk3 as yes I used the good family car line on my wife and I have been told not to change it lol, so il not complaining 😂 if I had the money I would buy a mk2 for the weekends and use the mk3 as the daily. As it turns out my RS is my daily driver so I get to enjoy it every day. Look forward to the next video. Mark, if you would like to experience my RS, just let me know. (Mapped)
Have to be honest and say I massively prefer the MK2. They are epic machines. Friend of mine has both, but has decidd to stick the MK3 up for sale.
Mk 2 and day of the year
People hating on the MK3 have no idea go out and drive one unbelievable cars I have a NB edition. It turns heads, sounds great and performs fantastic. I have been a RS fan since the MK2 and still love them. Do not understand just why people can not appreciate both RS's and enjoy.
This is the thing...the internet brings out the, umm, you know. I appreciate ALL cars, ALL brands, if it's a good car to drive it gets my vote regardless of what badge it's wearing.
I recently made a similar comment in the comparrison of the Mk7 and 8 ST's but if they didn't evolve and make it quicker somewhere then there is no point in making it. I agree the Mk2 lools better and sounds better but end of the day it's a decent hp fwd car. I'd be more than happy to own either over my FiST. Cool back to back vid.
The exterior of the mk2 RS and the noise is miles better looking and sounding than the mk3 but the mk3 has better performance.Please try a TT RS Mark you will love it 🍻
The mk 2 is just basically a modded ST.
It didn't even sell that well for that very reason, I'm confused at why people have the opinion that it looks better than the mk3.
It's just an effing ST with wide arches, a bigger turbo and different clutch/gearbox.
Which is all stuff you can do to the mk 2 ST.
The mk3 is actually a much better car, it has 4x4 so harks back to the Cosworth days, it's not just a modded ST like the MK2.
I also think the mk3 has much more road presence and turns more heads, it's the new Escort Cosworth.
I’ve been into fast fords for the past 25 years, and (Cosworth’s aside) I think think Ford lost its way throughout nineties and early noughties, and conceded loads of ground to the ricers who fully capitalised off the back of the success of their rally cars.
However IMO The Mk2 Focus ST, and subsequent RS, brought Ford back into the game, and I genuinely believe that the Mk2 Focus is to this generation of Ford enthusiasts what the Mk2 Escort was to me when I first started driving. It is also iconic as its one of the last fast fords released before complex electronics became the norm, which for me makes it much more of a drivers car, and a far better, and more economical, modding / repair platform for the layman......if that’s your thing.
That said the Mk3 is probably easier to live with in terms of comfort and practicality.
Great vid 👍🏻
I bought the mk3 in black, I like it’s subtlety. Both cars look good.
My original order was black. Then Magnetic. Then black. Then Magnetic. That went on for a few weeks before I finally went Magnetic...I've only ever seen one black one with standard silver wheels and it looked mean AF.
MarkCup70 I also went for the black wheels (back when they were £595 not £975!) and the privacy glass. When it’s clean and polished (which lasts a day at most) it looks awesome. I’m enjoying the stuff on your channel, I subscribed on the video where you went to the dealership to have a look around the car prior to the handover. Thanks mate.
Nice video Mark. I did have a 2015 Focus ST which was a fantastic car,when it was time to change it I did test drive the RS....🤔nice but I brought an 2018 Audi RS3.....😁
Mk2 ideal weekend car that sets out to kill you every time you drive it
Mk3 is a perfect daily with a hint of asbo as much as I love the Mk2 the Mk3 is more of a good all rounder and after seeing your videos I'm now converted
Mk3 even if it looks by far worse and its 5 doors. The AWD was just a dream became truth.
Lag is overstated as a bad thing... it gives Turbo cars some of their "personality". You can drive any Turbo car (that doesn't have a hybrid system) and feel turbo lag, and if you don't want it, you select a lower gear. With the Mountune upgrade I can drive My Fiesta ST and feel enough Turbo lag to make it fun. The 5 cylinder engines in the Mark II was a great little engine.
Crikey did Peter get it out of 5th gear at all??.... Give it some beans man!
Mk3 too easy to drive, but the mk2 enjoy the drive more. Always going to have people who prefer different shapes etc. Still think the mk2 is going to be a future classic and hold value better.
Great video thanks.
If a car is too easy to drive/handles like it's on rails you're simply not driving it fast enough. The mk3 if used in anger really moves about, more so than my old Fiesta ST! I think you're probably right about future values...we'll see if mine has held on to anything like as much value as Pete's has when mine reaches a similar age.
I own a mk3 rs and on fenland roads in Cambridgeshire it isn’t an easy car to drive...
If the MK3 had one more cylinder, it'd be perfect. That's the only thing it wants for. Everything else is amazing, looks and all.
Mk 2 RS, no contest !
I had the green mk2 frs for looks the mk2 wins every time but for driving the mk3 all day both awesome cars:-)
Hi Mark glad you enjoyed the mk2 drive. I noticed Pete's RS is build 1747, mine is 1748 also blue but wrapped . Mark if you would like to try my tuned mk2 with REVO 4 approx. 400bhp you would be more than welcome . As you know im local to goodwood .Thanks Brendan
This appeals Brendan...I've added you to my list which is growing quite long now...
I told you yours would increase in value as production came to a finish :)
We'll see if it's genuine or just some dodgy WBAC algorithms as time goes by...but yes, I think you might be right!
I loved my old RS MK2 as a daily driver. But the MK3 is so much better as a tracktoy. I do not miss understeer.
Me neither! Driving the mk2 again reminded me of the compromises you have to accept in a powerful FWD car.
Thinks the mk2 looks more special,interior looks better,engine better...more character but the mk3 will cover ground quicker and more modern plus 4wd.think the mk2 a better long term investment but all rs cars hold their values well if you look after them.great video..really enjoyed this
I think the rugby guy loved Mark's RS, judging from the cheesy grin on his face the whole video. 😊
They are both brilliant for different reasons.. so I bought both :|
Great comparison. Still love the mk1 most of all....but this is good review. Do same vs the mk1 if you can?
If someone with a standard mk1 is willing to let me have a drive I'm more than up for it!
Mk2 all day long. 5 cylinders and the looks to match
I would choose the blue RS for sure ...
I’ve considered purchasing one of them for the past year but I’d find it hard to choose to be honest.
The sensible choice would be to buy a Mk3 and sensibly modify it so it gives you a bit more excitement but the engine issues scare me.
I’d find it hard to justify £20k on a Mk 2 as special as it looks and sounds.
Hello, i thinking to buy a Focus rs, but Which model year and month Should i go for to be sure the head gasked is fixed? Are you satisfied with rs ?
Very satisfied! The gasket issues are being addressed so just take your time and find the right one for you.
Id have neither tbh R26r is where its at
Mrk2 two any day of week
Mk 2 any day
Let's see the two cars race from a roll
RS with AWD 👌🏾👌🏾
Keep up the great work
So basically a mk3 with wide arches and a mk2 engine would be perfect👌
MK2, it may not be quite as capable but it’s just that much more special. Especially aesthetically. Just look at their values, you could have bought one brand new, used it sparingly and lost literally no money. Quite incredible!
This is what I thought I was buying into with the mk3...sadly, Ford had other ideas!
I would take the MK2, causeI think the optic of the MK2 is better and the 5 cylinder engine is a special one. The MK3 is technically better with the 4 wheel drive, but the 5 cylinder engine made the RS stand out from the GTI's and other hot hatches.
After testing both mk2 and mk3 RS, I would have the mk2 as everyday car, and mk3 as the track weapon. The mk2 is easier to drive at normal pace, the suspension is less punishing, and the engine torque is so sweet. The sound is on another level. Also the interior and boot room are better on the mk2, even having less doors. The mk3 is a lot less comfortable, you are bouncing in the seat all the time, even at legal speeds. The main controls are harder to operate, steering, clutch... Interior space is not very good, boot space is pretty poor. The performance is not that impressive, the engine doesn't feel that alive for it's power. BUT, traction is SUPERB. The mk2 best point is the looks and 5 pot personality. The mk3 best point is chassis/traction. Very different cars. I would have a mk2 with the mk3 awd system if it was available.
Both Mk2 and Mk3 owner. My Mk2 suspension is a lot harsher than the mk3. Mk2 is like having the Mk3 on sport setting all the time. I do have Eibachs springs on mine but I did feel they were about the same firmness as the stock springs. For me Mk3 daily Mk2 weekend.
@@robertyates6913 the rs mk2 with lowering springs rides much worse than with the oem springs. According to friends with them. I tested a totally oem car. And it was clearly more comfy than the new rs. The standard setting was over the top for normal use. Can't imagine how hard the firmer setting can be...
If the MK2 had 4wd it would be a no brainer for me
The perfect RS would be a combination of both,
The looks and and sound of the mk2
The performance and AWD of the mk3
But neither are better than me Mitsubishi evo, whoops did I say that out loud ; )
do you want a car that handles the bends sounds best or wins to 100 kph and comfort over bumps. ...well 100 is out who cares if im 3 car lenghts behind ill win cause ill keep the throttle down anyway till you back off sound is best on rs3 so mine is ok i think sounds great cornering ive got a front diff lock as an option ..gla45 yellow night ..its just a good 20 thousand more than ford
Missing your uploads bro 😂
Only thing better in the MK2 is the engine imo. But that's the case with any modern car and their predecessors.
The guy that owns a mk3 had more fun in the mk2 than the other way around.
There are faster cars . But its the noise and look that would make.me choose a mk2 all day long.
And it won't depreciate.
Mk2 is growing on me big time, although the Mk1 is more proper Ford to me. Mk3 definitely turns heads though! Looking at residuals now though, if anything you could see the Mk3 losing most value with the numbers and engine issue
The value of my old one, if I still had it and had put the BMW's miles on it, would only have dropped circa £3k since I got rid of it a year ago...they do seem to have slowed down depreciation wise.
The only thing better about the mk2 is the engine, which I already have in my Volvo S60R. The Mk3 is so much better in EVERY other respect. I liked the look of the mk2 when it was released but now I think it just looks ridiculous.
Drifting is the most fun thing you can do in a car and the mk3 is the only hot hatch with (the exception of the m140i which is beyond ugly) that does this.
Fwd is pretty crap, I have a great fwd car too (R26) but its no match for a good awd car.
Should have got your guide dog to put up the comment instead.
Take away the AWD from the Mk 3 and what do you have ...Just a mapped Focus ST Mk 3 .When you have driven a Mk 2 Properly you can really appreciate it's ability to give you the ultimate pleasure of driving a True made Rs built to last. plus the pops and bangs are original and not "dialled in".
Mk3 by far
Choose the won with the correct head gasket .....lol
Neither mk1 focus proper rugged rs way it should be 1 colour and only going up in value. Love sound of a mk2 tho on boost
I would choose the mk 2 because at least that car won't break down on me.
Explodong inlet plenum anyone?
Would rather have exploding manifold the exploding headgaskets. That 2.3 engine is a joke
MK , 2
Mk2 was rear and special. Mk3 are nice btw. but special models trump World models. And despite age.
Mk2 best rs ever made
The mk3 really should have been a 3 door. Ford real were penny pinching by not making it 3 door as it ruined its looks. The 5 pot engine is better purely for the sound. Not sure what one I’d choose.
Mk2 all day long reasons why
Sounds better
Looks better (not even debatable)
Value is going up by the year
Mk3 has a lazy design it’s just a ST with different bumpers and it sounds awful yes it’s 4x drive and it’s quicker but I’d choice a mk2 all day long
Mk2 RS is the better of the two and it also looks much better
You have to try a Limited edition mk3 (LSD)
I have a drive lined up in a front LSD equipped mk3 coming soon. It's got a whole load more than that fitted to it as well...I can't wait to see how the front diff works with the mk3 RDU, it's going to destroy those roundabouts LOL
@@MarkCup70 I haver the LSD on my mk3 RS. You will enjoy a lot on a Race track/ twisty roads.
I drove it yesterday and the front LSD makes it a very different car!
Mk2
MK2 every time. 5 cylinders, massive road presence and that sound...… keep the Mk3, limited bhp after 10 seconds or so. Not as fast as people think. a lightly tuned Mk2 RS or even an ST will eat a mk3 once on the move.
Well done, you've demonstrated have zero understanding of overboost LOL As for tuned vs stock, yeah, that's a valid comparison...
Shame the Mk2 owner seemed to talk down his car a bit to much...
Edit (again): Doesn’t let it idle before shutdown?? Eh.. I always give mine an minute or 2, got to protect that turbo!
Excellent video though guys, thanks for the honest comparisons
really important to let the car idle before turning off, allows cooler oil to circulate around the turbo.
We'd gently cruised into Goodwood for the last mile or so, plenty of time to let things cool adequately before shutting off...it's not like the turbo was still spinning at 100k RPM when the oil supplly shut off.
I30
I like the i30 N...one will be considered when I come to retire the RS from daily use and need something else to run alongside it.
Mk2 is better looking and sounds better but it's front wheel drive !! and not even the best front wheel drive of it's time (clio 197 ,200 )all show and no go a had a 17 year old standard evo which cost me 5 grand when these where out not one ever kept up with me anywhere on any road but they did look the part and sound the part which is great but the mk3 is better
MK of course,that Volvo engine is bullit proof,worhed for them once and only ever did one volvo engine die and that because some moron worked on it...To be fair to Ford they replaced the eng under goodwill even though it was a 40000 miler!
Mk2 better looking in my opinion just a shame it was FWD not rear or 4
mk2, i have a stage 3 mk2 st and i wipe the floor with the new rs
Good for you!
In a straight line maybe 🤔
hello
by the way the mk2 has a better engine the iconic inline 5
100% newer version
What you on about the fake carbon on the stereo is a shame. Better than the stupid mk3 interiors. Would keep my Mk2 all day long over a Mk3.
Why would you keep that mk2 stock why why why give it to me
Because it's a good car as it is? Or are you saying it's not?
Best thing I did was get rid of my mk2, hated it .. felt like a 5 grand car to drive awful interior, cheap and nasty feel
The mk3 is a joke who is going to buy one out of warrenty the are going to be worthless out of warrenty the mk2 still holds it money because its reliable and can hold extra power without blowing headgaskets and cracking engine blocks. Ford have sort out that 2.3 engine have to take it back to drawing board and completly redesign it.
...a Civic Type R. 😀
Wrong part of the youtube interweb mate... The new ones look like they were designed by a 12 year old and crashed it into a Max Power 90s trade stand. ‘I’m oot’ Each to their own though.. ;)
Yet on a track the CTR would still win. Superior engineering. RS's are cool but Type Rs lead the way. Spec sheet numbers aren't everything.
...and neither are lap times...
@@MarkCup70 Indeed. I never said they were. Yet every comparison I've seen so far on TH-cam also has the Civic as the most fun and engaging car. From a FWD as well. It appears to be the better car regardless. If you can get an FK8 Type R on the channel for a review, I'll give that a watch and listen to your opinion.
I hope to at some point...and I agree with what you say, from what I've seen the Civic is the much sharper tool. I do like the slight insanity of my RS though, driving it yesterday in the wet after taking Mountune's M400 LSD equipped FRS out made me realise that even more so.
Have you lost a tooth since your last vid?
I have! Crown work on a dodgy root canal tooth...and it broke right off while on holiday...normal tooth action will be restored soon.
Mark I’m a bit OCD like yourself
I don’t miss a trick 😂😂
5 door RS is much better, but it should of been a 3 door, looks like 'ya dars' car.
Nether both shit 😂
...said no one about a Vauxhall, ever. No, wait ... 😆
Mk3 rip the shitty 4 pot out and put the 5 cylinder in = best car.
Compared to the 2.5 5cyl the 4-pot is almost completley lag free, so it's more responsive, it makes more torque, more power, and is more economical. How does that make it shitty?
@@MarkCup70 because it sounds shit and when I'm buying a hot hatch the last thing I care about is how economical it is. Also not true on the powerfront the 2.5 loves being tuned and being a Volvo engine can take it.
Who said anything about tuning them...I'm comparing standard with standard...so it's completley true. The 2.3 is more powerful!
@@MarkCup70 the 2.3 is only more powerful because Ford held back on the 2.5.
Ford give a full warranty on Mountune FPM375 on the mk3. Did they give warranty on the Mountune 375 pack on the mk2?
I guess the answer is : none of them, because they will blow up. Get an M140i is the solution, and a very good one.
There is no argument. The Mark III "RS" is not an RS .. it's an Amuuurican designed catch-all solution .. watered down and ruined. RS has always been a European thing .. they had Mustang .. we had RS. They should fup off back to where they came from and stop messing with perfection. Drift mode my arse ... Mark II RS .. drooooooooooool.
mk2 all day long mk3 does not deserve to wear a RS badge! wondering if you believe your own dribble..
OF course it does, it's genuinely nuts...oversped rear wheels which do one thing only...make it go sideways. That's about as 'RS' as it gets. Far more so than some noise and bonnet vents/arches!