Gary Judd on His Complaint Against Compulsory Tikanga Training at Universities
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2024
- Sean Plunket talks to Gary Judd KC about his complaint against compulsory tikanga training at universities.
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This is absolute nonsense, it has to stop this is the year 2024 not the dark ages of 1840!
FARK OFF BACK TO ENGLAND WHERE YOU COME FROM PAKEHA!!!!!!!DONT YOU EVER COME BACK TO MY LAND EVER AGAIN!!!!!THIS IS MY LAND NOT YOURS!!!THIEFS!!!!
Hi Valerie, common law dates back the reign of Stephen, in the literal dark ages. What exactly is you point?
Thank goodness for aware people like Gary Judd.
Sounds like he’s woke!!🤣😂
Unthinking, arbitrary, unnecessary, ridiculous box ticking
Thank goodness someone is doing something about this biased law in university. This racist rubbish has got to stop.
Playing the victim card 🤣😂
Trying to force "Compulsory Tikanga Training at Universities" is not going to help with getting the number of Māori inmates in jails and prisons equal to that of their percentage of the population. Perhaps the diversity racists should start there.
FARK OFF BACK TO ENGLAND WHERE YOU COME FROM PAKEHA!!!!!!!DONT YOU EVER COME BACK TO MY LAND EVER AGAIN!!!!!THIS IS MY LAND NOT YOURS!!!THIEFS!!!!
This is a form of conversion/ coercion therapy. There's a law about being coerced to convert.
always nice to hear from Gary, his counsel is the stuff of kings, so ignore at your own peril
Just another way for Maori to impress upon all us lowly types that they are a cut above the rest.
Yes it’s laughable isn’t it.
Not only that they all have a more 😂European blood line than Māori, so go figure.
@@olliemoose2020like I say, we're all British, just some of us have a little bit of Maori in them 😂
@@FoundingStockNZ And then you have the slaves that each Maori tribe stole when on those raiding expeditions. Over half of the Maori tribes looked to the Europeans for protection form warring Maori tribes... Ironically now there are those Maori who believe they are united.
@@olliemoose2020they colonized themselves 🤔
The majority of Maori don’t practise Tikanga.
It’s irrelevant.
Imagine if the English law society introduced fairies, pixies and goblins into their law curriculum 😅
If it’s irrelevant why are u so scared!!🤣😂
@@adriandocherty778 I’m concerned that if you can introduce such irrelevant legislation it would have a huge negative impact on the country.
..And will be used to blame Maori criminal offending on other people..
Hi Geoff do you believe that Maori are inherently criminal, please tell me of your wisdom
The Minority doesn't Rule 😊
Fortunately given your bigoted minority view, it does not.
Total waste of everyone's time and resources. It is time to scrap the Waitangi Treaty.
Remind me again what part mysticism had in formulating British common law? The same law that puts all peoples innocence and property rights first. The same legal system Rwanda has lately adopted because they saw it as the best way to take the country forward. The same law that protects individual Māori and all the rest from the depredations and graft of corporate iwi.
If you read John Rawls's treatise on consideration in contract law you might have a different view on mysticism in the common law.
@@jpwood9082 He talks about equal opportunity and never about equal outcome. He does advocate for a leg up for disadvantaged people but never the turning of the democratic system upside down. Many Western countries are free market democracies with social programs so that's already being done. Nowhere does mysticism become a defining feature of anything he says. So to me, we need a framework of individual freedoms and property rights in place for all of society to have a chance to prosper which Mr Rawls seems largely to agree with.
Ban the cheaty
Every one at uni should tell them to get stuffed
Thank you Gary Judd for looking into this.
It should be an individual choice.
Hocus pocus Ooga Booga Smoke and mirrors etc etc
Trainee nurses had this at one time and woman made quite a noise about it, apparently her passing the whole course came down to some elder testing her knowledge, don't know if the still have to
Yes they do, and my daughter has to know medical terminologies in Te Reo such as the equivalent word for osmosis.
@@bingo1319 I bet that’s an enormous gravy train for those elders. They won’t be doing it for the love of their culture.
Hopefully not they have enough on there plate’s with out having to do this nonsense.
1993 christchurch nurse. The elder at a marae told the students that before the Europeans came they had their own wooden typewriters but the colonists threw them all in the ocean ... it was utter twaddle .. it still is !
Chch polytechnic pushed culture safety from around 1992
So just aquessence to voodoo b.s.
They current government said they would stop this nonsense
I hope they do. I look forward to the day I don't have to listen to Simon Dallow virtue-signalling with his gibberish during the news.
all gov does is hold the line,...they wont be stopping sh!t.....its business as usual.
When Māori first 'came to the land' they devastated many species and 40% of all forests, and a lot more... you can go to Te Papa and read the plaques (before they get changed) and understand that this "noble savage' patronisation has the objective of special privileges for the Māori...
It has to stop it’s become ridiculous.
Your not real 😂 troll bot
@@mikeycanterbury1421 Nah... I am just a guy who actually knows NZ history e.g., Māori landowners got the vote before your average Kiwi...
What a load of grap your saying.europen devastated the ocean native forest native species the only thing Maori did is have a good fed of MOA that made them extinct😛
Always makes me laugh, when the 'European' box tickers, complain about Māori...
Fk off back to Europe ffs.
I'm English, this isn't your country.
What a complete waste of time and money, unless you support political subversion. Importantly, who is responsible?
sick of maori getting rammed down our throats if you want to learn that language or any other language should be your choice
wouldn't go near Otago University, which is an insult to all our history now
Why maori need to have so much say god only knows
It all boils down to a handful of entitled part Māori radical,s wanting something for nothing.
Hi Judith I don't understand what your comments have to do with the integration of Tikanga (common law) into common law. It seems like you just don't like te reo, which is a different issue, and one that you are a complete and utter bigot about.
The enforcement of anything culturally focused from just one within a multicultural society is to say one rule for them and another for anyone outside it.
The law has to be balanced and free from bias.
As Mr Judd wisely says there may be application of this within some issues related to Maori affairs. However to pervade the whole of the system with this would be an affront to tne people N.Z. who should have access to an impartial and equal balance of law for all.
The Platform keeps on exposing gold......well done. Gary Judd is doing what the Minister of Justice is ignoring.
Let’s go back from the start
Māori did not have a written language
They couldn’t write nor read
So what is coming out of the box now?
Tikanga training What a joke
so they haven't progressed any then ?
That’s true they didn’t have a written language, to maybe the European people should get remuneration for giving them such a great gift.
@speeddemon9555 of course, they progressed when Europeans arrived
@@Flying_GC it was sarcasm pal, why are they leading all the bad statistics ?
@@speeddemon9555great question
Special power....
I still have absolutely no idea at all about how tikanga was relevant to the Ellis case. What I can see with absolute clarity however is that introducing a woo woo element into our courts will without any doubt cause cases to run and run. Abandon hope all ye who hope for quick settlements!
PIGEON ENGLISH. PEVALENT in NEW ZEALAND ..nix minit....no one in the world will understand us
Tikanga - Blank magic or just more divisive rules to drive the wedge further. Might be good if they just looked in the mirror first.
They did, it broke.
Who's paying?
#WEFResistance
While this system keeps giving an inch they will keep taking a mile. Wake up .
Shocked to learn that legal academics and practicing lawyers disagree about things.
Why shocked? We are all individuals with different backgrounds and experiences which will result in different opinions
Yes why shocked. Nothing could be more evident. Academics promote ideas and do little else. Practising lawyers represent people doing many things but mainly productive. Truly chalk and cheese.
The Govt. say they need to attract foreign investors. Telling them that any contracts they enter into could be governed by tikanga, which no-one seems to really understand, should bring them flocking in.
isn't tikanga just like a religion? myths and legends?
Yes
Pretty much.
Tikanga is just a maori word for customs and spiritual religion but the Chiefs buried the old evil tikanga maori in favour of Tikanga Christianity
Did they, source please
@@jpwood9082"The Musket Wars "
Tikanga should never have been used in the Ellis case, not only completely irrelevant but he was dead, so all it did was hurt the victims who are still alive and waste money.
Can you please write English beside any maori words so the majority have some idea what the hell you are on about. "Compulsory Tikanga Training" could be Compulsory Wanking Training or all I know.
That is a pretty close translation of it.
Well done Gary, racist woke govt entities, eg Universities, need to be called out.
Indoctrination. Very dangerous. I did a course at AUCKLAND UNIVERSITY some years ago. Basic Introduction of Maori Society, based on Ranginui Walkers book, a struggle without and end. Great course, but my choice.
This is why we need a definitive interpretation of the TREATY !!
What about the customs and beliefs of the people before maori arrived here in New zealand ,
Talk about calling the kettle black mmmmmh !?🤔🤨
Where is the financial reporations to the actual First Peoples mmmmmh !?🤔🤨😛😛😛
The 3 simple clauses are definitive
Hi Greg, I am interested in what you think a definitive version of the Treaty would say in your view. Perhaps you can elaborate (elaborate means to explain if you have limited understanding of english)
Someone trying to keep their job at university
as well as the cultural dominance aspect, this would also limit the ability of legal professionals trained overseas in comparable Common Law jurisdictions from coming to NZ and having their qualifications recognised. In other words it's a form of protection racket by the body proposing the change, so that they get to make more money retraining anyone coming here wanting to practice law.
When is this government going to stop this BS? Losing my vote
Tikanga can not be equated with law. Tikanga was custom. I guess the anthropologist might want to equate the two, bit from a philosophical/ normative perspective they are entirely different. Law is based on universal and abstract ideas, which is something that Maori has not yet arrived at in 1840. Much of Tikanga/ custom of the tribes was condemned by European law while much was also allowed until the state could develop..
Forcing compulsory Maori at universities is bizarre - firstly, it takes away an advantage from Maori who do speak te reo by making this a 'common skill', rather than an additional benefit of hiring them..... so it'll disadvantage Maori..... AND it's wrong to charge fee-paying students for training in a subject which has no bearing on the subject that they're studying.
Keep the mystical to where it comes from,its not for general use nor for it to br used to get maori lighter sentences or even get off charges, they have more European blood so its irrelevant to use for these circumstances. This is all so outof hand its ridiculous
Whats the problem here??
Maori law is basically vendetta law - like the vikings had (in a manner of speaking). I am all for taking revenge on wrong-doers.
Utu is their law
Mori oris spring to mind
Careful with that logic, it may mean the end of most minorities.
@@berniefynn6623 Exactly - vendetta law.
The Treaty Chiefs said the maoris were doing wrong to Pakeha its all in the Kohimarama Conference records
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Maris are New Zealand's most pathetic race.
Nah I'd say media...or the lack of .
He's right. But my god it's a tough listen. No charisma at all. And poor at communicating. His point is solid but he needs a better messenger.
What on earth is a maori professor?
Hi New Zealand Please Decriminalise Cannabis
we have enough nutters in the country without introducing laws to create more, if you grow a bit on the quiet and you dont misbehave the chances of being picked up and arrested are nil
Racist
HAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH....so english is acceptable. What happens if other group's want their language's used only the kings english
i wish we had been taught maori in school instead of french, at the time l thought maori was a waste of time, little did l know what my future held in store, also sign would have been helpful after having a deaf grandchild, l dont think you can ever learn too many languages
Maori is pigeon English
As a Māori I say get it out if you don’t want it, basically I don’t want you to know our beautiful tikanga or beliefs, you will only weaponise it ,even bastardise it .
Get what out? 🤷♂️
Well that is the concern that the Supreme Court highlighted. We want to use tikanga but not at the expense of perverting it.
Maori are magically magic
As are we all ✨️
Well in there own heads anyway.
Disappear please
@@StGammon77 like a magic trick? 🎩 Get a maori