Liked, subscribed, and shared on my clan’s discord! First of all, thank you for the shoutout, but I do want to correct/add one point I consider significant: though it may be technically true that there’s no cap for movement speed buffs themselves (ie they *can* provide their full value), there *is* a hard cap of 70% combined movement speed. So eg if you’re a barb, you need to cap your passive at 20% to cap speed at 70% with sprint, but as a crusader, you only need 10% passive to hit the hard cap while mounted. Passive above 10% won’t make you any faster as a crusader on horseback, but of course it will make you faster while not mounted. Secondly, it’s great to see so much testing of both damage and crit buffs. Apart from the crit stacking mystery at the end, this is consistent with Auroth’s claims, but I really appreciate seeing it confirmed with carefully controlled tests. Thirdly, what about “armor break” effects? Bk’s have 3. From my quick testing that was not nearly so controlled, teeming grotto did not seem to stack with soul censer. And testing stacking with the mastermind 20% may require an actual boss (along with 3 willing friends of different classes), so that would definitely be a high effort test lol. Cheers!
As for the damage part a couple of points i noticed looking at your numbers btw Set bonus stack additively with one another Essence buffs seem to stack additively with one another as well (there's a % error but very little so high confidence) Legendary gems seem to be considered each a category of their own so every gem gives a buff and they all stack multiplicatively Different categories (essences, sets, each different gem) multiply each other
This is true. Some crit chance actually don’t stack at all: for example. I have 32% from gear, 32% from lament, 19% from dh crit legs and 22% from 4pc gloom and i peak at best around 70% and the crit chance pants literally don’t stack with gloom. The crit chance does not apply even tho it is in the buffs
there is another weird crit thing i noticed on barb with the essence that makes Wrath of Berserker give 50% crit. i tried with 10% and 20% crit from gear. everytime i activate Wrath my crit goes to 55.5 % which i assumed was internal cap for crit. but probably isnt and there is some weird interaction happening with mothers lament. when i did those tests Mothers was not in the game yet
Thx for the content. Could u do one with Nearby Dmg reduce, Dmg reduce while moving, and Dmg reduce? Ps does any of ur items have Crit chance increase as attributes?
Hi thx for the insightful video! Wasn’t the 2% from the berserker gem? As well i have tested Shephard and BoE together and those stacks together with M lament. My one curiousity is comparing remnant set bonuses- is manifest carnage more powerful vs collar of brutus? Where one is 10% crit dmg above 70% crit chance and the other is flat 10% dmg
bru, how bout leg gems, like Im currently using "bloody reach" which increases dmg the further away, is it condidered passive/active since it has a condition and will it stack among the other leg gems like "Power and command"?
@@patricksantos846 follow the rules. Does it have duration and buff icon? I don't have a bloody reach at the moment but I don't think it had a duration nor a buff icon, so it's passive. Either way, dmg boost from legendary stack anyway.
Do with atack speed buffs aswell. I. Currently using on barb: 4 piece vithus 30% . 4 piece shall bas 25% . 35% from a lacerate essence + 3% from some reforges . 93 % they all seem to stack cuz im swinging like a madman. But id like to know more about stk speed. All i know is the cap is 100%. Liked and sub btw 😊
I suggest for you to talk to a friend in game and while activating all of attack speed buff have your friend check your attack speed on your character profile. But if your quick to press it then you can do it solo. BTW, attack speed can be check but some essences only provide primary attack speed which is different to attack speed and not visible to our profile stats.
It's a good guess. I don't remember what pets I had at the time I made the video but I had the same pet before and after though, so I think if I got crit from pets, it would have been affecting both the scenarios. So it would not have caused the unexplained 2.5%
Liked, subscribed, and shared on my clan’s discord!
First of all, thank you for the shoutout, but I do want to correct/add one point I consider significant: though it may be technically true that there’s no cap for movement speed buffs themselves (ie they *can* provide their full value), there *is* a hard cap of 70% combined movement speed. So eg if you’re a barb, you need to cap your passive at 20% to cap speed at 70% with sprint, but as a crusader, you only need 10% passive to hit the hard cap while mounted. Passive above 10% won’t make you any faster as a crusader on horseback, but of course it will make you faster while not mounted.
Secondly, it’s great to see so much testing of both damage and crit buffs. Apart from the crit stacking mystery at the end, this is consistent with Auroth’s claims, but I really appreciate seeing it confirmed with carefully controlled tests.
Thirdly, what about “armor break” effects? Bk’s have 3. From my quick testing that was not nearly so controlled, teeming grotto did not seem to stack with soul censer. And testing stacking with the mastermind 20% may require an actual boss (along with 3 willing friends of different classes), so that would definitely be a high effort test lol. Cheers!
Thank you for the addendum, that is definitely something I missed! Love the thoroughness and detail of your movement speed video. Great job on it.
As for the damage part a couple of points i noticed looking at your numbers btw
Set bonus stack additively with one another
Essence buffs seem to stack additively with one another as well (there's a % error but very little so high confidence)
Legendary gems seem to be considered each a category of their own so every gem gives a buff and they all stack multiplicatively
Different categories (essences, sets, each different gem) multiply each other
Hmm that makes sense as other bonuses have both additive and multiplicative types as well.
Keep it up. Thank you for this content. Hoping for more videos like this.
Thank you!
based on my testing, active crit chance buff has a diminishing return except from mother’s lament
What makes mothers lament so special that it defies the standard behaviour, I wonder
This is true. Some crit chance actually don’t stack at all: for example. I have 32% from gear, 32% from lament, 19% from dh crit legs and 22% from 4pc gloom and i peak at best around 70% and the crit chance pants literally don’t stack with gloom. The crit chance does not apply even tho it is in the buffs
Clear and concise information. Congrats!
Thanks!
Great information, Return. Much appreciated
Thanks friend
there is another weird crit thing i noticed on barb with the essence that makes Wrath of Berserker give 50% crit. i tried with 10% and 20% crit from gear. everytime i activate Wrath my crit goes to 55.5 % which i assumed was internal cap for crit. but probably isnt and there is some weird interaction happening with mothers lament. when i did those tests Mothers was not in the game yet
Got a sub for this and a like. Thanks!
Thanks mate, great work. Though I wonder if active buffs unviersally don't stack or only on your BK essence examples. I truly don't know
Thx for the content. Could u do one with Nearby Dmg reduce, Dmg reduce while moving, and Dmg reduce?
Ps does any of ur items have Crit chance increase as attributes?
Nice video bro 🎉❤
Maybe the reason why lament stacks with banquet is because banquet is not a buff. Maybe crits which can trigger BOH or as a buff do not stack.
How can we tell that banquet is not a buff? Each banquet crit stack has an icon with duration below your portrait. I think it's probably a buff.
Awesome guide.... Maybe hat 2% came from chams...i guess
Hi thx for the insightful video! Wasn’t the 2% from the berserker gem? As well i have tested Shephard and BoE together and those stacks together with M lament. My one curiousity is comparing remnant set bonuses- is manifest carnage more powerful vs collar of brutus? Where one is 10% crit dmg above 70% crit chance and the other is flat 10% dmg
Oh wow remnants I completely forgot about those! I might have to revisit crit chance and do a full test of it again.
Hi, redid testing on BOE and shep crit stacking i dont think they stack fyi. Yes! Can have crit chsnce from remnants and I think its full benefit
@@MrAlphasoul ah thx for that info!
This is good. Any DH vidz?
Sorry DH is one of my least played classes. I don't have sufficient knowledge of DH to confidently give advice on it. 😭
bru, how bout leg gems, like Im currently using "bloody reach" which increases dmg the further away, is it condidered passive/active since it has a condition and will it stack among the other leg gems like "Power and command"?
@@patricksantos846 follow the rules. Does it have duration and buff icon?
I don't have a bloody reach at the moment but I don't think it had a duration nor a buff icon, so it's passive. Either way, dmg boost from legendary stack anyway.
Do with atack speed buffs aswell. I. Currently using on barb: 4 piece vithus 30% . 4 piece shall bas 25% . 35% from a lacerate essence + 3% from some reforges . 93 % they all seem to stack cuz im swinging like a madman. But id like to know more about stk speed. All i know is the cap is 100%.
Liked and sub btw 😊
cap for attack speed is 100%
Speed is a bit tricky to test, but I'll think about how to do it. I'll add it to the To Do list.
@@EndGamingOfficial thanks i apreciate
I suggest for you to talk to a friend in game and while activating all of attack speed buff have your friend check your attack speed on your character profile. But if your quick to press it then you can do it solo. BTW, attack speed can be check but some essences only provide primary attack speed which is different to attack speed and not visible to our profile stats.
I actually just completed my attack speed video. It's scheduled to be published tomorrow morning!
You def need more subs. And stop killing me in BG 😇
Haha who is this?
HomieDClwn :)@@EndGamingOfficial
@@joshlevy2593 You need to stop killing ME lol
Lol that was a good battle. GG!!@@EndGamingOfficial
Great content! Curious, does the set dmg buff stack? Like gloom, banquet n shalbas
Thanks! And yes they stack.
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Thank you!
I think the remaining crit is from gloom
It gives Less crit the higher your crit chance
Wouldn’t the Shep x4 set act as a passive Crit chance?
I wanna know this to
I have no idea...I need to wait until I switch to a necro or DH to test this. I'm going to guess it's a passive crit for the time being.
Can the 2% extra crit from pet?
It's a good guess. I don't remember what pets I had at the time I made the video but I had the same pet before and after though, so I think if I got crit from pets, it would have been affecting both the scenarios. So it would not have caused the unexplained 2.5%
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