High Performance Speaker Stands for Less than $10 ~ 50 ! EASY !

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  • Here is what I did for my budget easy DIY speaker stands when I was on a tight budget ! Hope this helps !
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  • @Jayiyagi
    @Jayiyagi  5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Please feel free to leave other suggestions below ! Would love to try. Oh and subscribe !

    • @tango_gru
      @tango_gru 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldnt you have broken the brick to reduce the height ?

    • @okosakaroklenni
      @okosakaroklenni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      there is a "single" version of this. I don't know its name, but its used for pillars in construction. Three of them is ideal for listening from the couch. The also come in at least two different sizes. You glue them together, put some dampening on the bottom (like the material used under wooden floors to dampen vibration when walking. its tuned for low frequencies, sor perfect for stopping vibration to enter the floor. Also evens out the uneven surface of the concrete blocks)

  • @redstarwraith
    @redstarwraith 5 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Brave man, moving concrete blocks around barefooted! Ah youth. . .livin' life on the edge!

    • @jumpercable20
      @jumpercable20 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yep, I'm 67 and when I ride an escalator, I don't hold on to the hand rail, I don't hold on to the hand rail in an elevator either. I also go in the water directly after eating. And I have been known to use an electric toothbrush with the water running. If you really want to test the limits of your sanity, try running across black Georgia asphalt in mid August barefoot, but only after 2:00 pm. I'm probably one of the only humans on earth that can levitate a concrete block with a heart wrenching scream.

    • @VK-qf4qi
      @VK-qf4qi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @AttunedFlux
      @AttunedFlux ปีที่แล้ว

      I was about to say the same thing. Damn bare feet with the damn heavy cinderblocks! The cool jacket also really sells it.

  • @zeesworld5092
    @zeesworld5092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    My wife would love this in the living room. Lol.

  • @DarkGT
    @DarkGT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Those speaker stands are the real deal! I have houses made out if speaker stands, and even people trust is so much that they live in such.

    • @shinji1264
      @shinji1264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂😂 Heavy duty stuff

  • @TheHammerofDissidence
    @TheHammerofDissidence 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Throw a dark table cloth over it and you're good to go.

    • @shinji1264
      @shinji1264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'd throw some acoustic sheets over it and add foam at the top

    • @TheJoker1200
      @TheJoker1200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would paint them black on the outside and red on the inside😁👍🏼

  • @net_news
    @net_news 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    wow this is actually a GREAT idea and I love its industrial look!!! I will replace my crappy stands with this, I refuse to pay $1k for a descent stand they are way overpriced. THANK YOU MAN!!

  • @Fruityflava
    @Fruityflava 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Cinder blocks are pure class when painted/decorated.. : )

    • @hushpuppykl
      @hushpuppykl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fruityflava ... graffiti art! Gives you that urban feel 😂

    • @TheChill0ut
      @TheChill0ut 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      10/10 would veneer the shit out of them

  • @johnmarshall6100
    @johnmarshall6100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fact is, the blocks look better than most of the pretty stands out there.

  • @stedmenknox1169
    @stedmenknox1169 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly this is great 👍🏽 I was going to weld something together..so I looked on TH-cam and yours caught my eye..I don’t know why I didn’t think bricks!! Brilliant!

  • @johnc6042
    @johnc6042 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Use the half cinder blocks (8x8x8”)for a electric piano stand. 3 of them stacked “eye to the sky” for both ends of the piano. After pricing and looking at what was in the store, finding keyboard stands over priced and shaky, I bought 6 half blocks. Just put two on the floor, adjust until all of the feet on the keyboard are on the blocks, then stack on the other four blocks. A piano stand just the right height and as stable as a boulder.

  • @realsigsegv
    @realsigsegv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I made my own wood speaker stands. Searched a design in SketchUp, made some modifications, buyed wood and some black paint cost me maybe 20 euros. They look great.

    • @TheSteinbitt
      @TheSteinbitt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking of doing exactly that, I want to use the stands for the KEF lsx as a model and make it in wood. Easy, just straight and clean angles:)

    • @lamecasuelas2
      @lamecasuelas2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have any photos?

  • @remaxremax
    @remaxremax 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for sharing this idea. I am already using stacked concrete blocks made for pavement (19 kg a piece with dimensions of 40 cm x 40 cm x 5 cm) bought from the local "home depot". Each stand is composed out of 11 slabs for a total weight of almost 210 kg. The Kef R3 mounted on these sound really good, significantly better than with the Atacama stands I was using before.
    As a tip, I would suggest experimenting with using spikes from the speakers directly on the concrete.

  • @leonisbacher1772
    @leonisbacher1772 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    good video, not all of us are loaded with money, especially us younger folks.

  • @ronaldrice2936
    @ronaldrice2936 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Yeap that's Old old school been there , for my ADVENT's at the time just spray paint them black and you good to go.👍

  • @andymenendez7824
    @andymenendez7824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The best bargain I have found on speaker stands so far are the $54.00 each monoprice speaker stands. They come in 24 inches and 28 inches and are direct copies of stands that cost double the price because of the name.

  • @vettrious
    @vettrious 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Two cinder blocks, then build light weight enclosure around them or drop them inside and you have a nice stand that won't fall over.

  • @JohnSmith-qt4pv
    @JohnSmith-qt4pv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's what you do. Use some liquid nails (or similar) to bind the blocks together so the top one doesnt accidentally tip over. Padding on the bottom to protect the floors.
    Iron weights in the bottom hole to lower the centrr of gravity to further reduce the chance of tipping.
    You can even clad the outside in mdf to make it look nicer but i just had mine spray painted by friends

  • @tapemaster8252
    @tapemaster8252 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yep, I use the thin cinder blocks(no holes) for my definitive technology bp6s, sounds audiophile to me and that’s all that matters

  • @rebelwolf72
    @rebelwolf72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I may try something like this in my bedroom.It would certainly increase the price , but painting the cinder blocks or draping them with a tablecloth would make them look a lot better.

  • @ggroch
    @ggroch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great! Good ideas. But through the whole video I was really worried the damn block would fall off the damn rickety table and fall on your damn bare foot...and you would then say something much worse than damn :)

  • @sdads7531
    @sdads7531 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you so much for taking your time to show us this !

  • @Projacked1
    @Projacked1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Put the bricks on a piece of those cheap carpeting squares to move them around easily in your room.

  • @nugenki
    @nugenki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ended up going this route, since I have a industrial theme going on, and am going to paint it dark grey. Even found other sites that agree cinder blocks work. +1

  • @bulletproofzest
    @bulletproofzest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you want to dress them up, you can bag some sand and put it in the cavities to damp any resonances, then build a shell out of 1/2” mdf or finished plywood, and just slide it right over them.

  • @hudzgh
    @hudzgh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the life of me I can't understand why so many gave a thumbs down! I found it to be a great idea. I'm gonna copy it, with maybe a bit of lipstick. Thanks!!!

  • @notta3d
    @notta3d ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually got a good laugh at this. I saw the same setup on Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous.

  • @catonlsd3
    @catonlsd3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    have no idea why so many dislikes to this video... this is a popular and great solution when on a budget! You can paint it or glue some material layers to change the aesthetics and done!

    • @RennieAsh
      @RennieAsh ปีที่แล้ว

      He shows some pretty wooden stands in the thumbnail, but then in the video tells us to go and buy some cheap looking cinder blocks that don't really look as nice. In other words, clickbait/misleading video.

  • @marktodd7397
    @marktodd7397 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im using a roller mat ( for rolling out sore muscles) for a speaker stand at the minute. its not as tall as those blocks but looks quite a bit better.

  • @xSKOOBSx
    @xSKOOBSx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about lengthwise so you have a nice flat surface on top and finished...?

  • @richardmurphy9006
    @richardmurphy9006 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now I understand why you gotta fill stands with sand I always used books but I was so much older then I'm so much younger now

  • @kevinweber5129
    @kevinweber5129 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve been wanting to get audio speakers for my living room but Don’t have much floor space. I like the new stand design for the Wharfdale Linton as they include storage space below the speaker. There should be more speaker furniture like that. Like the barefeet - very natural.

  • @chuckseeger7743
    @chuckseeger7743 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just throw some flexseal on those bricks good go 🤙

  • @denniswade4998
    @denniswade4998 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have seen black pvc tubes about 3 or 4 inches wide fastened to wooden tops and bottoms.
    They could even be filled with cement.

  • @user-tj5hq2kz8x
    @user-tj5hq2kz8x 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:58 my favorite part of the video

  • @akumusik3582
    @akumusik3582 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it, Gratitude & Appreciation💯

  • @Ritefita
    @Ritefita 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    OMG man, amizing idea!
    I'm lookin for stands, but I cant afford anything more.
    Thank you)
    //went to find bricks

  • @danrebeiz4598
    @danrebeiz4598 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This damn video was damn informative. Gonna save me some damn money. Thank you so damn much. :)

    • @orwhat24
      @orwhat24 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn!

  • @dautucas
    @dautucas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When people mention Barefoot in comments, I was like:
    There's no Barefoot monitors in the video.
    And the in a second after i was like: oh, literally Barefoot....

  • @vaughnallen3849
    @vaughnallen3849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Welcome to Bedrock Studios

  • @danielortizdecaracas
    @danielortizdecaracas ปีที่แล้ว

    TOTALMENTE MARGINAL

  • @ChancellorX
    @ChancellorX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You just saved me so much money!

  • @brandonjackson5405
    @brandonjackson5405 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a good idea never thought about this because who wants to pay more than they payed for there speakers on stands . 🦉 no one

  • @parkersgarage4216
    @parkersgarage4216 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i would have went a different route personally. you can get a single 2x6 a 1x8 and 1x12 and make 2 stands. you can also go w a 4x4 in place of the 2x as well. depending on size of the speaker you plan on putting on the stand buy the correct corresponding size wood. im building mine w a 4x4 a 1x8 and a 1x12. going to be super cheap and it will be solid wood not no bs.

  • @javierdiaz4763
    @javierdiaz4763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "It may look a bit ugly" I don't know man, let me ask my wife real quick if I can put concrete blocks in the room for my speakers, I'll let you know.

  • @frp_freddy
    @frp_freddy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been looking for a DIY solution and this seems the best , and also cheapest. Thanks

  • @Allaces305
    @Allaces305 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the great idea and now let me help you...I don't think lifting bricks barefoot is a good idea..🤣

  • @BabaOsei
    @BabaOsei 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello my friend, was looking for speaker stands and by chance I came up on your video of the using concrete blocks as stands and that is exactly what I did, thank you my friend

  • @justinmordini7627
    @justinmordini7627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video is so great 🤣👍🏽

  • @jackryder6732
    @jackryder6732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great. How about talking about the technical part of speakers stand. What height is good.

  • @craigdoriety9798
    @craigdoriety9798 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some 2x lumber and 4 inch pvc pipe filled with concrete can make some nice heavy stands also.

  • @SwitchWhisperer
    @SwitchWhisperer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is perfect. Thank you for the inspiration !!

  • @ostrand11
    @ostrand11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "it's a damn brick" Beautifully said!

  • @ziggy8757
    @ziggy8757 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    great sense of humor

  • @MrWslindsay
    @MrWslindsay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the fact you're stacking those barefoot! 😅 Keep up the good work!

    • @Jayiyagi
      @Jayiyagi  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Living life on the edge. Who needs shoes anyway

    • @mikecees2230
      @mikecees2230 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...with a fur-colared leather jacket on.

    • @MrWslindsay
      @MrWslindsay 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikecees2230 😁 good stuff

  • @lamecasuelas2
    @lamecasuelas2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can probably put a rod or something in the middle, or use just one as a base and use wood for the body, i don't know. I bet that you can come up with some cool designs

  • @j.howardj
    @j.howardj ปีที่แล้ว

    Those are cement blocks, not bricks.
    But whatever, you could even spend a tad more money and spray paint them black or whatever color you want.

  • @RennieAsh
    @RennieAsh ปีที่แล้ว

    imo if you're going to use that much surface area under the driver, may as well buy a floor stander and get extra cabinet volume as well. For stand mounts, the stands should have only the smallest surface area you can get away with.
    Also, misleading thumbnail.

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve always wondered why they don’t invent a motorized stand . With a remote it changes the angle to the listener.

    • @onesong2001
      @onesong2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think B&O do stuff like that.

  • @carbonoxx
    @carbonoxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what brand are those bricks?? are they good quality?

  • @Maradnus
    @Maradnus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They work amazingly.
    We paired these off with i forget which ones but they were 4” shaft that were filled with led shot..
    They were from a well known hifi brand..
    Anyway. The breeze blocks were just as good if not better considering the price.
    We used a spike plate for the speakers & then the breeze blocks were on a spiked granite slab 3”
    Sounded phenomenal!!

  • @johannjohann6523
    @johannjohann6523 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could get a cool looking fabric wall poster and just drape it over the top of the blocks. I can't decide if a Vinyl cover would work on concrete, but you could always paint them (tho concrete doesn't paint so well.) Computer Mouse pads make great speaker pads to isolate your bookshelf speakers and won't leave your wallet empty. You can buy 10, or 20 pack Computer Mouse pads and using contact cement make as thick of a pad you would like. hey also work well inside a speaker cabinet, far better than "polyfill". Use to line some or all of the interior walls of your cabinets. Foam will be more dampening than rubber type pads, but whatever you do, make sure foam or rubber you have is "flat" pieces to attach to the inside wall of your cabinet. No egg crate! Yes, losing a little space, but how much is a 1/4 foam pad actually going to take up?Again use contact cement to install but first play around with the pads, using double sided tape holding them to the interior of the cabinet. Now play some music AND TEST THEM before making them permanent! Great video, think I'm gonna get me some of those "high class" speaker stands soon! Thanks! ( but when you want to get REALLY serious about the location of your TOWER speakers or speakers in general, - shouldn't you really be hanging some speakers from the ceiling?) That's what the "professionals" do. plus it gives you more floor space (and maybe a rubber bumper or two so you don't bust your head open when you run into the speakers. Because you know you will. lol! :) thanks for the info and helping us out here in the real world still enjoy some quality music! Peace!

  • @TheSteinbitt
    @TheSteinbitt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That jacket was awesome!

  • @timgray950
    @timgray950 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you mention the specifics on what to search for re the black foam thing. Thanks.

    • @timgray950
      @timgray950 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      8 hockey pucks from Canadian Tire did the trick!

  • @nephiilim
    @nephiilim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was almost an 8 min video about stacking a couple cinder blocks.

    • @matenorth
      @matenorth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is skill to that. Its what politicians do. They talk for a long period of time just to make a statement.

  • @llewellyn56
    @llewellyn56 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool.

  • @my_wood
    @my_wood 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IS IT possible to get 3 WAY ATC SPEAKER to review? like atc 25A , ATC 40 .thanks

    • @Jayiyagi
      @Jayiyagi  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh yes. Its very possible. Although. Lets take it one day at a time !

    • @my_wood
      @my_wood 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jayiyagi thank you for your reply.

  • @Mafioso1731
    @Mafioso1731 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing idea! I'm making a home gym but I have a SMALL foot print. I don't want those tripod stands because it takes sooo much floor space. The brick would work with the over all aesthetics of my gym. Would this work Samson XP 1000's?

  • @ccharvey2882
    @ccharvey2882 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any advice for desk stands?

  • @project.lazarus
    @project.lazarus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    that is proper my friend

  • @rondog5440
    @rondog5440 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like old school dorm room stuff!

  • @VinylRundown
    @VinylRundown 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those are all pretty b-ugly - for single dudes only. I have cheapo Sanus MDF stands filled with $5 worth of CONCRETE- shown in my recent vid of the Buchardts. Love the channel bro. Thx.

  • @thethirdman225
    @thethirdman225 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great idea but I probably wouldn't do it in bare feet!

  • @ivansbacon
    @ivansbacon ปีที่แล้ว

    I am sure that will pass the wife acceptance factor. WAF is Not a problem in my world.

  • @pm4898
    @pm4898 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could Gussy the breeze block up by just spray painting them. You've got a good cheap idea here. Of course it only works if you have no significant other.

    • @Jayiyagi
      @Jayiyagi  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My significant other can hit me with the brick and I would still be fussing about the placement of the bricks while bleeding.

  • @newdeep19
    @newdeep19 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice audio room great work!

  • @takeyourknife
    @takeyourknife 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @funkesrv
    @funkesrv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice jacket.

  • @erickbollmann1757
    @erickbollmann1757 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good idea, and you can build a rack for the equipment with those blocks too.. I know im beeing a litle asshole here... but what the hell with that jacket indoor and barefoot....was to much for me

    • @Jayiyagi
      @Jayiyagi  5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Its cold in Canada right now. I cant afford heat and shoes because of my hifi addiction

    • @erickbollmann1757
      @erickbollmann1757 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Jayiyagi jajajajaja ok thats perfectly understandable

  • @krane15
    @krane15 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it cold in your house?

  • @Taffy84
    @Taffy84 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How come you don't have a review up of those ATC SCM-11?

  • @dahaizang
    @dahaizang 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My floor may complain :)

  • @123pantyhose
    @123pantyhose 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Resonance is isolated, good minding

  • @johnsweda2999
    @johnsweda2999 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cinder blocks better designed for acoustic treatment isolation construction and no don't have to be heavy a light honeycomb structure is better

    • @johnsweda2999
      @johnsweda2999 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fat Rat how loud are you playing them for them to move around? They shouldn't be moving, put a paving slab on top of your speakers

  • @LifeSized101
    @LifeSized101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ammo military wood cases , they even have handles

  • @24lenard
    @24lenard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm here to find where is the Checked mark products from your dumnbnail. Why is no such thing as like in the video?

  • @nostro1001
    @nostro1001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is a great audiophile 'hack'. Not something I need, however well put together and I'm sure somebody will make use of this system as it makes so much sense.
    Let's be honest speaker stands are no magic bullet, they purely serve a purpose. Typically filling your speaker stands with sand will cost more than this set up and then of course there's way more expensive materials that can be used.
    Yup they are ugly, but can easily be hidden, painted I assume etc.
    Btw....I reckon there's no need to worry bout prices in US dollars if you're talking Canadian dollars. Just keep the continuity and peeps will quickly get the idea. And even when you you do try to convert there's no guarantee that prices will match one way or the other. I'd assume (coming from the other side of the world), that typically the US would have cheaper products.
    Geez shame our dollar so low these days....bring back parity or better. 😂

  • @davidcripps3011
    @davidcripps3011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A clever idea :-)

  • @Arsonloke
    @Arsonloke 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video

  • @bjornf2
    @bjornf2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just saw another video that tested these vs others and blocks were the worst performer

  • @pdsg365
    @pdsg365 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That fact you would thumb this down and not leave YOUR "better" idea says alot about you.

  • @MeOdioAudio
    @MeOdioAudio 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bright Man!!!!!!!!

  • @avjake
    @avjake 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just to reiterate, bare feet in audiophile videos are against the law. And those aren't bricks - they are concrete masonry units, or CMUs.

  • @101stTank
    @101stTank 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great now when you got cat, 3 kids and 2 dogs all will die when that top piece falls off.

  • @crave5885
    @crave5885 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why so many dislikes?

  • @el_micha
    @el_micha 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx for the input!
    But a video of 8 mins. to show stacking 3 blocks - seriously !?

  • @lindsaywebb1904
    @lindsaywebb1904 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PVC sewer pipe filled with cement

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can get single hole cinder blocks at Home Depot. Get six and paint them black. I did it. What you got there is a train wreck. No offense

    • @virtuazoso
      @virtuazoso 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doug G and then you just stacked them? You’re not afraid of them toppling over?

    • @danwright8531
      @danwright8531 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow crazy. Can you reply and send me an pic thru youtube.

  • @godbwu
    @godbwu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was going to do the same thing, but HOA, stated I had to get a City permit to build anything involving concrete , so I just bought a pair of preowned great quality Atlantic Speaker Stands on craigslist for $20.

  • @ike7539
    @ike7539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    x1.5 speed recommended

    • @Smood47
      @Smood47 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      2x is the way

  • @silentj80
    @silentj80 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A person could easily throw a sheet over it and noone will know they are cinder blocks