Now I feel better about "hoarding books." There are those who seem to think I need an intervention. When the internet glitches out and we don't have access, I won't notice. I'll be wallowing ecstatically in my personal library. Love Damien's books btw. Great info.
Damien Echols changed my life, the midnight gospel episode….the way he words it, he has a poetic and compassionate perspective that turned me onto western practices in a way that I probably would not have done otherwise. His two books are amazing intros to theurgy.
i click on these random videos about magic that get suggested from time to time and am often very disappointed. This is the most pragmatic discussion I've heard on the topic and resonates perfectly with a lot of what I've learned. Thanks for posting this. It was a wonderful listen.
On a real personal level, I appreciate your level headed approach to Christian influence. I was actually an alter girl who went into spiritual sensitivity and wanting to learn about the paranormal, but being told I was evil. But now, it’s a real trippy change in my life, because my mom is obsessed with Enochian angel stuff to a crazy degree. Thank you both. ❤
Just right off, 2 of my favorite newly recognized magicians talking, and talking like I would hope we in magic get to talking, so far (just starting it)! WOW! SO AWESOME!!!!! THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!
Appreciate hearing Orthodox Christianity getting mentioned. Growing up in the US (midwest at that), it was completely alien to me until a few years ago. Such a powerful magical tradition. It has now become integrated with my life practices.
the breeze blowing outside at 41:40 or so just gave me chills. something got invoked and that something signalled its' presence once evoked. or maybe just random breeze in trees outside, but there is no random. random does not explain anything because every effect is the result of what caused it....
I can’t believe I was 13 yrs old when you were arrested, I remember my mom and dad watching the news about you! I remember sitting in the kitchen my dad shaking his head and saying are you kidding these kids these days what is happening! I remember thinking just by looking at you guys you didn’t do it before I knew what happened! Not sure why at 13, I knew!😇
hello Jason, dear, from the lady that named the Blake lodge. Loved your John Dee book I have recommended it to many. One suggestion, camping should go with studies of magic, "camping in the rain always keeps you humble." You can quote me on that one. Perhaps some basic rock climbing too and starting a campfire with paper and no lighter fluid! Nice lecture/podcast. Also, I found that doing care for others, hospice, etc. that uses ALL religions studies, every recipe and more. Blessed Be! Keep making fine books and podcasts. xoxo
I've never had a problem defining or recognizing evil, I see it right away, a mile away. The concept of being beyond good and evil always felt like a copout to me. A way to doge any morality and avoid responsibility. God bless all 🙏
I grew up in san diego, and i loved la in the 90s. I ended up moving to the south over 20 years ago, and now when i go to cali, i just cant stand it. The energy is so bad i actually feel like unaliving myself the entire time im in the state. This feeling goes away the second i get into Arizona. I think maybe i always felt the bad vibes, but was used to it so i ignored it. Now that ive been gone so long it really hits you when you go for a visit. I used to think there was so much spirituality in California until i moved to the south and realized literally everyone does magic out here. The wealth of folk magic and the stories are amazing out here. Even the most Christian person out here paints their porch ceiling blue to keep out the haints. Now i see how fake socal really is. The feeling is more like everyone is one upping each other instead of actually practicing.
Great conversation. Love Damien. His work was my gateway to magick. I have being pondering about the whole time/secret chiefs thing lately... I'm kinda afraid you´re right...
I have never liked Crowley or studied any of his works. I have always got the Vibe to be repelled from him. Most of my practice comes from direct experience with the divine. Also listening to great Podcast, like this one.
Crowley is interesting to read about. He finished each book he started, and he was a great mountain climber and more. I did not say he was good or morale but he finished what he put his mind to and yet said "do not lust after results". Something to be said for realism.
How the hell can you say you don't like someone if you've never studied their work. That's the height of ignorance. "Yea I don't like chocolate ice cream. I've never tasted it though." Come on man. Read some of his work and you'll be surprised. You don't have to like his personality to appreciate his genius in the occult.
@josesuokas217 they just said, they follow what they feel is true, their own divination. Are you listening to the video? Magick isn't about idolzing the preists gurus and other hierophants. Your militancy to a strangers comment makes me think you have a lot of growing to do. Stop idolozing people. And Crowley was a total weirdo who repells a lot of people. Nobody has to study something they arent interesting in.
I've studied him and his life from his early childhood, and its pretty clear he was just a grifter who liked to spend rich peoples money. I honestly don't believe he was doing magic. I think he found a way to convince bored wealthy people to fund his lifestyle and have sex with him.
Thanks Damien & Jason. This talk between you two helped me clarify some things going around in my head for a while. Time to become a new person & stop being stagnant.
Not sure if this is an older video, but it’s wonderful to see Damian again! I check his channel frequently and haven’t seen anything new. This man changed my life. I am so grateful to have new content from him/you two.
I grew up in the Traditional Roman Catholic Trinentine Latin Mass and always felt and believed we were engaging in the Magical. I find truth, logic, reason, beauty, and magic in many places from within and without, from above and below, it's everywhere. We just need the eyes to see and the ears to hear; using our feelings our intuition, openness and decrement, with a balanced integration of the heart and mind, based in love.
Thanks guys for sharing your thoughts and experiences, i do feel strangely related and it is so good to hear from others who have a similar internal geography - it always seems we are surrounded by misunderstanding and fundametalist framings. I totally admire your courage and openess,it really helps with being honest to myself as well, given i can not count on support by my current surroundings for the way things appear to me. Thank you so much again!
I felt the same way about NYC, then 9/11 happened and the city I knew and loved died. Then I moved to LA and experienced a similar thing from Covid. After that I had to move again because it changed too much.
would it make sense to say that because of the constant increase in human population that I agree with the idea of a golden age of magick. More nodes/access points being born and connecting to the network and making it stronger?
These two have no issues citing and calling out by name flawed religions…but when discussing the modern realities of major cities not once do they cite or name those who killed the “magic” of a city like NY….why is that?
Damien Echols and John Trudell are my favorite soul comfort ♥️ thanks Damien giving an update about your past .there's a man in Idaho and there's some of the same thing like your case they basically have touch dna they want to send him in front of the firing squad
Literally a mile away from the Parsons location in Pasadena while at work right now. I looked it up after you mentioned. It's amazing how much Occult history Pasadena has. I really want to dive deep into it all. Any books recommended?
1:16:00 as a lens of contemplative understanding, should there be other advanced species, perhaps why they don't interact as they are aware of the vital importance of our societies space-time loop that we are both stuck in and slowly progressing us forward with each reiteration occurring at once but that we can only experience singularly
That's what classic stoics stated about evil: It's about ignorance. Almost nobody wakes up in the morning thinking "What kind of evil shit could I do today?". Ignorance makes those people think they're acting right. Also, the most interesting fiction villains are those who see themselves as acting good, and may see the "good guys/heroes/main characters" as villains.
Didn't know much about him before these topics don't see him all that often in general after I got into this. Cool guy just a random guy with a cool story. If by being push heavily your referring to the extremely rare and strange story about a guy sentenced to death row falsely for a few decades and than using "magick" to save his life causing some intrigue from the general public than than that would be a over statement
idk why this resonates so much. God made me a missionary/gospel preacher from the east (China) to preach to the west. it's making me more open to orthodox relics and icons to see some spiritual supernatural stuff. occult doesn't have to be anti Christian?
''The Interstellar'' movie part is more complicated. Actually the info to us comes from our roots from the past not from our future self and since all of this is one and time is relative it comes in mysterious ways. Some chaos incarnation shit.
Came back to this video to accidentally rediscover that these guys have never been to europe. Calling Europe secular and socialist is wild. We wish lol. The orthodox priests bless the bombs here dawg
022:00 pre pandemic post pandemic That’s because the Pandemic itself is part of the Magickal workings of the 19 year Metonic Cycle Spoken about by Thomas Jefferson (every 19 years to get a new constitution) Pandemic (cv19) 2020 911 (hint hint) 2001 1982: Faukland war/war on drugs/aids 1963: JFK etc 057:00 Grand ‘Architect’ of the universe 100:09 “they” will have an Internet Shutdown and when it comes back the AI will be as strong as a tractorbeam on Star Trek 👽🤖🤡
When will we get the Louv, Echols, Trussell trifecta?
That would be amazing
A fish-man, soul bird, and interdimensional podcast host walk into a bar...
I would explode from the excitement
I’ve been hoping for this forever
Yep
I could listen to Damien talk about magick endlessly.
He got a lot of wealth and power from the murder and rape of a boy?
That’s the idea! Lol
Now I feel better about "hoarding books." There are those who seem to think I need an intervention. When the internet glitches out and we don't have access, I won't notice. I'll be wallowing ecstatically in my personal library. Love Damien's books btw. Great info.
Damien Echols changed my life, the midnight gospel episode….the way he words it, he has a poetic and compassionate perspective that turned me onto western practices in a way that I probably would not have done otherwise. His two books are amazing intros to theurgy.
thanks for all the love
i click on these random videos about magic that get suggested from time to time and am often very disappointed. This is the most pragmatic discussion I've heard on the topic and resonates perfectly with a lot of what I've learned. Thanks for posting this. It was a wonderful listen.
My two favorite teachers together. Some real motherfucking depth ensues.
100 percent all of us who didn’t comply got on a different timeline!!!🔥
Yes the world is in labor for a new world. Feeling this on a cellular level
We're in the Kali Yuga and there are a lot of dark powers that rule vibes right now, but it is darkest before the dawn 🌞
Two of my favorite men to listen to on the topic.
Legendary, Jason!
Great job; as always bro.
On a real personal level, I appreciate your level headed approach to Christian influence. I was actually an alter girl who went into spiritual sensitivity and wanting to learn about the paranormal, but being told I was evil. But now, it’s a real trippy change in my life, because my mom is obsessed with Enochian angel stuff to a crazy degree. Thank you both. ❤
What a great chat!!!! Love the energy both brought to the table, keep up the great work
Miku appearing as soon as you mention a "higher power" was hilarious
Just right off, 2 of my favorite newly recognized magicians talking, and talking like I would hope we in magic get to talking, so far (just starting it)! WOW! SO AWESOME!!!!! THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!
Appreciate hearing Orthodox Christianity getting mentioned. Growing up in the US (midwest at that), it was completely alien to me until a few years ago. Such a powerful magical tradition. It has now become integrated with my life practices.
the breeze blowing outside at 41:40 or so just gave me chills. something got invoked and that something signalled its' presence once evoked. or maybe just random breeze in trees outside, but there is no random. random does not explain anything because every effect is the result of what caused it....
I can’t believe I was 13 yrs old when you were arrested, I remember my mom and dad watching the news about you! I remember sitting in the kitchen my dad shaking his head and saying are you kidding these kids these days what is happening!
I remember thinking just by looking at you guys you didn’t do it before I knew what happened!
Not sure why at 13, I knew!😇
Love hearing 2 of my favorite writers/migickians chatting!
thank you....I stepped aside from the work for a few decades.....have been around in th bay area since the late 1960s......nice to hear new views
oh hell yeah! cant belive im just seeing this. been following both of you this past year. thanks for posting Jason
I thoroughly enjoyed listening to this discussion while in my studio painting.
Would be great to do an event here in ATL! Great convo and very refreshing.
Very much enjoyed this thank you 🙏🥷
Thank you both so much for all the free content. I am eternally grateful 🙂 y'all are some wonderful human beings
You guys should check out the book "The Fourth Turning"... If you haven't already..
It's about cycles in history.
I was guided to this video today. Thank you for a wonderful video\chat here. Truly wonderful.
hello Jason, dear, from the lady that named the Blake lodge. Loved your John Dee book I have recommended it to many. One suggestion, camping should go with studies of magic, "camping in the rain always keeps you humble." You can quote me on that one. Perhaps some basic rock climbing too and starting a campfire with paper and no lighter fluid! Nice lecture/podcast. Also, I found that doing care for others, hospice, etc. that uses ALL religions studies, every recipe and more. Blessed Be! Keep making fine books and podcasts. xoxo
I've never had a problem defining or recognizing evil, I see it right away, a mile away. The concept of being beyond good and evil always felt like a copout to me. A way to doge any morality and avoid responsibility. God bless all 🙏
Good is evil ,and viceversa
@FerrisWheel-n3w Yeah, up is down, black is white, all satanic doctrine bs.
I grew up in san diego, and i loved la in the 90s. I ended up moving to the south over 20 years ago, and now when i go to cali, i just cant stand it. The energy is so bad i actually feel like unaliving myself the entire time im in the state. This feeling goes away the second i get into Arizona. I think maybe i always felt the bad vibes, but was used to it so i ignored it. Now that ive been gone so long it really hits you when you go for a visit. I used to think there was so much spirituality in California until i moved to the south and realized literally everyone does magic out here. The wealth of folk magic and the stories are amazing out here. Even the most Christian person out here paints their porch ceiling blue to keep out the haints. Now i see how fake socal really is. The feeling is more like everyone is one upping each other instead of actually practicing.
Life is continuous growth, so beautiful
Yes ive been feeling this too. Dying and being reborn many times and having many baptisms. Its like the ouroboros
Great conversation. Love Damien. His work was my gateway to magick. I have being pondering about the whole time/secret chiefs thing lately... I'm kinda afraid you´re right...
I have never liked Crowley or studied any of his works. I have always got the Vibe to be repelled from him. Most of my practice comes from direct experience with the divine. Also listening to great Podcast, like this one.
Crowley is interesting to read about. He finished each book he started, and he was a great mountain climber and more. I did not say he was good or morale but he finished what he put his mind to and yet said "do not lust after results". Something to be said for realism.
How the hell can you say you don't like someone if you've never studied their work. That's the height of ignorance. "Yea I don't like chocolate ice cream. I've never tasted it though." Come on man. Read some of his work and you'll be surprised. You don't have to like his personality to appreciate his genius in the occult.
@josesuokas217 they just said, they follow what they feel is true, their own divination. Are you listening to the video? Magick isn't about idolzing the preists gurus and other hierophants. Your militancy to a strangers comment makes me think you have a lot of growing to do. Stop idolozing people. And Crowley was a total weirdo who repells a lot of people. Nobody has to study something they arent interesting in.
I've studied him and his life from his early childhood, and its pretty clear he was just a grifter who liked to spend rich peoples money. I honestly don't believe he was doing magic. I think he found a way to convince bored wealthy people to fund his lifestyle and have sex with him.
@@madamebutterfly851that has nothing to do with what jose said.
Thanks for sharing this conversation with the world.
Thanks Damien & Jason. This talk between you two helped me clarify some things going around in my head for a while. Time to become a new person & stop being stagnant.
Not sure if this is an older video, but it’s wonderful to see Damian again! I check his channel frequently and haven’t seen anything new.
This man changed my life. I am so grateful to have new content from him/you two.
I grew up in the Traditional Roman Catholic Trinentine Latin Mass and always felt and believed we were engaging in the Magical. I find truth, logic, reason, beauty, and magic in many places from within and without, from above and below, it's everywhere. We just need the eyes to see and the ears to hear; using our feelings our intuition, openness and decrement, with a balanced integration of the heart and mind, based in love.
I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation.
Thanks for sharing it with us.
My two favorite contemporary Magicians!
....very interesting conversation and unique channel. Will stay on board, Mates ! Magnanimous information, no doubt !
Proud book hoarder! My mother said she was going throw out some, it was like a shot to my heart.
Excellent conversation. I learned alot. Keep up the great work 🎩
Fantastic discussion, liked and subscribed.
Evil ignorance is the abandon of responsibility under a edifice of authority
Thoroughly enjoyed this. Lots of food for thought. Thank you both.
Thanks guys for sharing your thoughts and experiences, i do feel strangely related and it is so good to hear from others who have a similar internal geography - it always seems we are surrounded by misunderstanding and fundametalist framings. I totally admire your courage and openess,it really helps with being honest to myself as well, given i can not count on support by my current surroundings for the way things appear to me. Thank you so much again!
39:53- reminds of a Mathew Arnold poem from the turn of 19th to 20th century.
Beautiful and magical muse. Thank you so much...
Hooray for this fans of u both for years
😊😊😊Two masters😊😊😊
😊😊😊the learning is deep😊😊😊
😊😊😊Thank you😊😊😊
😊😊😊for this gift😊😊😊
This is an amazing conversation.
Thanks for this!!
Why would you want to take the easy path?
Wow, podcast format like face to face with a microphone. Hard. 🤩
I felt the same way about NYC, then 9/11 happened and the city I knew and loved died. Then I moved to LA and experienced a similar thing from Covid. After that I had to move again because it changed too much.
Makes it all so real. Thanks for sharing.
I tell people magic is laying your clothes out the night before you go to work the next day, making your bed..and watching your mouth.
Would love to hear more convos! Thanks for this
Thank you, this was very interesting and relevant to my own Path.
Thank you!
Thank you
Gnarly video. This is a beast. Stay safe and healthy
Bringing out the best in each other! Good video and talk
thank you for talking about egregores and how they change..........
Thank you so much for this. 🙏🌱
what kind of mics are y'all using?
This is a really fascinating convo 🎉❤🙏🏽
Super stoked to have yallshow up on my youtube suggestions peace ✌️ ☆🌈🕊🌿
soul bird and the fish bowl man, good combo
would it make sense to say that because of the constant increase in human population that I agree with the idea of a golden age of magick. More nodes/access points being born and connecting to the network and making it stronger?
I would like to have access to the library of the Vatican...
Places are very important which is exactly why geomancy and lay lines exist!
These two have no issues citing and calling out by name flawed religions…but when discussing the modern realities of major cities not once do they cite or name those who killed the “magic” of a city like NY….why is that?
Because that would start a political conversation which is pretty far removed from the topics they’re well versed in.
who killed the magic of the cities? politicians?
YOU exhaust ME sitting there listening with that gotcha energy. I’m certain there are people stressed out within arm reach of you too.
Damien Echols and John Trudell are my favorite soul comfort ♥️ thanks Damien giving an update about your past .there's a man in Idaho and there's some of the same thing like your case they basically have touch dna they want to send him in front of the firing squad
Literally a mile away from the Parsons location in Pasadena while at work right now. I looked it up after you mentioned. It's amazing how much Occult history Pasadena has. I really want to dive deep into it all. Any books recommended?
Love you!
Nice guys
I forget the name of the science, but supposedly people have been able to retrieve sound from physical objects present when the sound occured 1:12:00
At 11:08 did he said that magick created science?
Alchemy and science were the same thing at first
Thank you so very much. Your conversation has been so helpful to me😊
Even God can grow, that's a lesson to us!
1:16:00 as a lens of contemplative understanding, should there be other advanced species, perhaps why they don't interact as they are aware of the vital importance of our societies space-time loop that we are both stuck in and slowly progressing us forward with each reiteration occurring at once but that we can only experience singularly
YES, Jeet Kun Do is fundamentally Chaos Magick!
“We’re all in this together” was the annoying phase of the pandemic.😂
I used to live in Studio City in the early 1970's. The Chiropractors there are different.
Adjusting your back log of karma.
Nice and deep.
Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.
I got more insight on magickal practice after I stopped practicing.
6:22 This.
2 hrs and 9 minutes well spent
Great conversation!
Just discovered you two for the very first time today.😉
That's what classic stoics stated about evil: It's about ignorance. Almost nobody wakes up in the morning thinking "What kind of evil shit could I do today?". Ignorance makes those people think they're acting right. Also, the most interesting fiction villains are those who see themselves as acting good, and may see the "good guys/heroes/main characters" as villains.
aww this 14:04 is so beautiful
I wonder why this guy was so heavily pushed by Hollywood and "the system" in general.
Didn't know much about him before these topics don't see him all that often in general after I got into this. Cool guy just a random guy with a cool story. If by being push heavily your referring to the extremely rare and strange story about a guy sentenced to death row falsely for a few decades and than using "magick" to save his life causing some intrigue from the general public than than that would be a over statement
idk why this resonates so much. God made me a missionary/gospel preacher from the east (China) to preach to the west. it's making me more open to orthodox relics and icons to see some spiritual supernatural stuff. occult doesn't have to be anti Christian?
❤
Good stuff
''The Interstellar'' movie part is more complicated. Actually the info to us comes from our roots from the past not from our future self and since all of this is one and time is relative it comes in mysterious ways. Some chaos incarnation shit.
The south is where it’s at. Denver is a shark tank too and I left it for Arkansas. Real Magick and freedom lives in the woods of North Arkansas still.
7:32 😂 He was a bit of a try hard.
Came back to this video to accidentally rediscover that these guys have never been to europe. Calling Europe secular and socialist is wild. We wish lol. The orthodox priests bless the bombs here dawg
AHAH
022:00 pre pandemic post pandemic
That’s because the Pandemic itself is part of the Magickal workings of the 19 year Metonic Cycle
Spoken about by Thomas Jefferson (every 19 years to get a new constitution)
Pandemic (cv19) 2020
911 (hint hint) 2001
1982: Faukland war/war on drugs/aids
1963: JFK
etc
057:00 Grand ‘Architect’ of the universe
100:09 “they” will have an Internet Shutdown and when it comes back the AI will be as strong as a tractorbeam on Star Trek 👽🤖🤡