I feel like in the Netherlands the smaller towns and cities are a lot better in terms of cycling infrastructure than the largest metropolises. Correct me on that, Netherlanders, but it seems that in Amsterdam the infrastructure is just "OK" by dutch standards and in Rotterdam/the Hague it's even worse than that
@@smb6995 It is just a lot more challenging to make a good flow of traffic in those city's. In Rotterdam the very "pro car" mindset of the 50's is still very visible. 4 lanes of cars with out any possibility for cyclists to cross the street is still very common. This street design causes people to cycle against the stream of traffic, my biggest annoyance when i lived there.
In the 1990's, i've ridden that route many times. It doesn't look like it has improved that much, and with bottlenecks like the railbridge, it really doesn't deserve the 'fast route' designation. It's just a cycle path, not even up to modern standards of normal bike paths. I love the cycling garage at Deventer rail station though! That's certainly an improvement!
Nice. I like the comment at the end that "naturally the station of Deventer has a beautiful underground parking garage." I think only in the Netherlands would that sort of infrastructure be "naturally". Over here in the UK it would be "amazingly" or "surprisingly". :-)
I can attest that the Netherlands state-of-the-art is intuitive and appealing, Mark's not bragging here. Up and down the Low Country, there are few examples of poor public architecture.
Haha yeah, I definitely felt my heart sink at that point. In the US it would be "astonishingly" as well lol. I'm just happy when I don't feel TOO unsafe riding around :-) I'm working on my home town though, the future is not yet written!
2:46 😊 as a citizen of Deventer, this view always gives me the feeling of coming back home again. I wonder if the bike lane will be upgraded in the near future. In the city of Zutphen (about 20KM from Deventer) they upgraded the bike lane section of the bridge a few years ago while undergoing large maintenance, making much more space for cyclists. It would be great if they managed to do that with this section too.
2:36 "Motor scooters are no longer allowed". What a great imperative decree to do it all over Netherlands. Once for all, The cycling will be more convenient.
Nice to see that Apeldoorn is looking at improving it's cycling infrastructure. As someone who grew up there and koved to Utrecht a number of years ago i only realised how much Apeldoorn still has to improve when i started cycling daily in Utrecht. There are still so many places with bicycle gutters on busy streets or unneasecary conflict points with motor traffic, on top of the many missing links, both in the city itself and the regional network. But here's to hoping for improvement! The cycle route to deventer seems like low hanging fruit for a good cycle-highway and the city seems to want to better connect cycle routes trough and via the city centre and station.
The globe often comes to see how it is done all over NL , but the globe needs political policy at home to give priority to cyclists like the dutch authorities and public.
@@lowiebovens. I often see poorer countries even here in Europe waste enormous amounts of money on inefficient bad car infrastructure. I understand that Netherlanders build all of this cycling infrastructure to make their country safe and comfortable to live in, local politicians read public's message and do what they are requested to do, but it would be really great for you to export more of the know-how, it's sad you can't export your political will 🙃
@@lowiebovens. Also bike friendly streets are a lot more ecconomicly fruitful for small bussinesses. The "not just bikes" youtube channel has a great video about it.
It is still a great miracle that such an old and proud nation Scotland is, wants to be part of Brexit country , dominated by England. So hope to see you back as an full EU-member as soon as possible .
@@fryfrysk the reason they won't give us another section 30 is because they know they very nearly lost the last one, true Scots do not want to be part of there uk, all this mess of brexit is flying under the radar because of this virus crap a lot of people have said they would vote differently now , as England kept none of there vows, and the power grabbing of powers that originally went from Scotland to the eu, have been hijacked by Westminster, they are going out of there way eroding as best they can our government and Parliament, real Scots will never give up no excuses free Scotland.
I take the train from deventer to work almost every day. but I take the bus to the station so I haven't looked in the bike garage yet. it is beautiful and better than in the past when the bicycles were still stored above ground
it's my commute and I feel it's not really that great, compared to other bicycle highways. I always somewhat envious when I see what's built around other Dutch cities. The paths are quite narrow so especially in the morning when a lot of school children occupy the paths it's hard to maintain some speed
If you live in the US, Australia or other less bicycle friendly country send a bicycling video to your local transportation planner or local elected official. Speak up for bicycles in your community. Older adults and children should be able to ride a bicycle safely to work, school or for fun.
I'm from the U.S. and was completely against bicycles until I found this channel. In the U.S. I still worry about bicycling through high crime areas though.
@@alungibbon9146 yes absolutely, and well done you for that. I was just amused and pleased that you had thought to do the same as me but in reverse. I think it's great how we all are linked by these excellent programme makers. 😊
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It's so amazing to see the good biking infrastructure in the whole country, not only in the big cities. Thanks for this content.
I feel like in the Netherlands the smaller towns and cities are a lot better in terms of cycling infrastructure than the largest metropolises. Correct me on that, Netherlanders, but it seems that in Amsterdam the infrastructure is just "OK" by dutch standards and in Rotterdam/the Hague it's even worse than that
@@smb6995 It is just a lot more challenging to make a good flow of traffic in those city's. In Rotterdam the very "pro car" mindset of the 50's is still very visible. 4 lanes of cars with out any possibility for cyclists to cross the street is still very common. This street design causes people to cycle against the stream of traffic, my biggest annoyance when i lived there.
In the 1990's, i've ridden that route many times. It doesn't look like it has improved that much, and with bottlenecks like the railbridge, it really doesn't deserve the 'fast route' designation. It's just a cycle path, not even up to modern standards of normal bike paths.
I love the cycling garage at Deventer rail station though! That's certainly an improvement!
Nice. I like the comment at the end that "naturally the station of Deventer has a beautiful underground parking garage." I think only in the Netherlands would that sort of infrastructure be "naturally". Over here in the UK it would be "amazingly" or "surprisingly". :-)
I just now realize that could be seen as bragging, but it is simply a fact here.
I can attest that the Netherlands state-of-the-art is intuitive and appealing, Mark's not bragging here. Up and down the Low Country, there are few examples of poor public architecture.
Haha yeah, I definitely felt my heart sink at that point. In the US it would be "astonishingly" as well lol. I'm just happy when I don't feel TOO unsafe riding around :-) I'm working on my home town though, the future is not yet written!
@@BicycleDutch I would never take that a bragging.
Haa! Here in the states, it would be seen as 'not in my town/city'.
Piękne nagranie i cudowne tereny, cudowne Niderland
Once again. Cycling infrastructure on a different planet!
2:46 😊 as a citizen of Deventer, this view always gives me the feeling of coming back home again.
I wonder if the bike lane will be upgraded in the near future. In the city of Zutphen (about 20KM from Deventer) they upgraded the bike lane section of the bridge a few years ago while undergoing large maintenance, making much more space for cyclists. It would be great if they managed to do that with this section too.
I left Deventer in 2016, still miss it every day. The view from the bridge and the park bring bak so many good memories.
Bike riding is fun
Especially in the countryside
Saludos desde Lima Perú bendiciones
2:36 "Motor scooters are no longer allowed". What a great imperative decree to do it all over Netherlands. Once for all, The cycling will be more convenient.
Nice to see that Apeldoorn is looking at improving it's cycling infrastructure. As someone who grew up there and koved to Utrecht a number of years ago i only realised how much Apeldoorn still has to improve when i started cycling daily in Utrecht. There are still so many places with bicycle gutters on busy streets or unneasecary conflict points with motor traffic, on top of the many missing links, both in the city itself and the regional network.
But here's to hoping for improvement! The cycle route to deventer seems like low hanging fruit for a good cycle-highway and the city seems to want to better connect cycle routes trough and via the city centre and station.
The Netherlands should export this to the globe.
The globe often comes to see how it is done all over NL , but the globe needs political policy at home to give priority to cyclists like the dutch authorities and public.
The fact that it also involves a lot of tax money. But in many countries this lack is often a cause of the poor infrastructure.....
@@lowiebovens. I often see poorer countries even here in Europe waste enormous amounts of money on inefficient bad car infrastructure. I understand that Netherlanders build all of this cycling infrastructure to make their country safe and comfortable to live in, local politicians read public's message and do what they are requested to do, but it would be really great for you to export more of the know-how, it's sad you can't export your political will 🙃
@@lowiebovens. bike infrastructure is laughably cheap compared to all other types but pedestrian.
@@lowiebovens. Also bike friendly streets are a lot more ecconomicly fruitful for small bussinesses. The "not just bikes" youtube channel has a great video about it.
Hi from I hope soon a free Scotland so we can be back with our eu friends.
Saor Alba ! You are welcome! Van harte welkom!
@@nlbergsma thank you I can't wait to get back saor alba my friend.
It is still a great miracle that such an old and proud nation Scotland is, wants to be part of Brexit country , dominated by England.
So hope to see you back as an full EU-member as soon as possible .
@@fryfrysk the reason they won't give us another section 30 is because they know they very nearly lost the last one, true Scots do not want to be part of there uk, all this mess of brexit is flying under the radar because of this virus crap a lot of people have said they would vote differently now , as England kept none of there vows, and the power grabbing of powers that originally went from Scotland to the eu, have been hijacked by Westminster, they are going out of there way eroding as best they can our government and Parliament, real Scots will never give up no excuses free Scotland.
I take the train from deventer to work almost every day. but I take the bus to the station so I haven't looked in the bike garage yet. it is beautiful and better than in the past when the bicycles were still stored above ground
I wish I could ride my bike on that road
Sure you can! It's only a flight and train ride away from where you are.
it's my commute and I feel it's not really that great, compared to other bicycle highways. I always somewhat envious when I see what's built around other Dutch cities. The paths are quite narrow so especially in the morning when a lot of school children occupy the paths it's hard to maintain some speed
@@XEinstein As long as you are alive, anything is possible
@@محمدزروقي-ش1ش Hear hear.
If you live in the US, Australia or other less bicycle friendly country send a bicycling video to your local transportation planner or local elected official. Speak up for bicycles in your community. Older adults and children should be able to ride a bicycle safely to work, school or for fun.
I'm from the U.S. and was completely against bicycles until I found this channel. In the U.S. I still worry about bicycling through high crime areas though.
Wish we had such lovely cycling infrastructure in car-infested Italy too...😓
The Dutch society, administration have reached the pinnacle of democracy. Feels super-natural, heavenly…
It really is not, but we cant complain about our infrastructure and watermanagement. Its something we take for granted but its really great.
Demptahr!❤️
I understand that "F" signifies it's a cycle route, but what is the numbering convention? What "344" means?
This route travels along the N344 (provincial road). Which is just a random/subsequent number.
@@Joostuh oh, so there are at least 343 other provincial roads and some of them have adjacent cycleways. Thanks!
You may be interested to watch Robert Llewellyn on the TH-cam channel "Fully Charged Show" from Utrecht, the first of a series from the Netherlands.
Funny, I think I said the same about this channel on the comments of that video!
@@judebrown4103 I didn't read all the comments.
My comment was directed at the creator of the channel.
@@alungibbon9146 yes absolutely, and well done you for that. I was just amused and pleased that you had thought to do the same as me but in reverse. I think it's great how we all are linked by these excellent programme makers. 😊