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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Are you forced to use Visual Studio Code? Well there's a new code editor in town called Zed Code Editor. It's available on Linux, MacOS, and soon on Windows. It's really time to start thinking about switching from VSCode to Zed.
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What Code Editor are you currently using?
neovim, and I don't think this will make me switch. Vim mode in Zed is great, but neovim is more than just vim motions, the whole plugin ecosystem is what makes it good.
This thing needs way more time to fully develop. It's lacking something like debug adapters
Neovim. My backup is VSCodium.
helix
Neovim
Neovim ❤️
I hate it when my editor drops frame, really need 120fps to work efficiently as this is how fast I type 😅
Haha
I tried it in VirtualBox. Without 3D acceleration it's just a slideshow. Code and Lazarus working fluid. Qt Creator is fine as well. But Zed - it's just unusable. Also constant 20% CPU usage. Code Completion loads CPU at constant 80%. And it's also constantly writing on disk. Started at rate of 80 KB/s, then went up to 100 KB/s. 350 MB in 10 minutes, just staying still in the background. Better not to use it with SSD.
@@elksalmon84
dude do you code on a microwave
@@elksalmon84 exactly why Neovim is the one and only good one
I use neovim btw 😎
Helix Editor is better. It's written in Rust and has a much simpler interface.
@@T1OracleHelix isn’t there yet. It is NOT better. Maybe out of the box it is but the configuration neovim has is unmatched. Once Helix figures out debugger and plugins the will take the cake.
I use emacs, I’m better than u btw
@@T1Oracle
helix is better? 😂
than neovim?
no it’s not
Neovim? That's like saying you use a Manjaro derived linux distro. Could be worse, you could have said you use the Ubuntu or PoPOS equivalent of emacs.
Switching from VSCode is a problem of extensions. I don't think extensions developers will port them to Zed.
Like another user pointed for Linux, installed it using bash script, didn't launch. Unable to uninstall now with apt purge.
Anyways, will stick with Pulsar for editing, which is essentially carrying over the torch from atom editor anyway and has been working great till now.
Yeah been seeing this pop up a few times. Sounds like a fix for failure of installation needs to be put in place. Whether or not that’s just running another scrips
It requires Vulkan 1.3 support from your GPU tho.
just switched to Zed, i like the multi-buffer thing. i'd have been less hesitant to switch if it had debugging support (breakpoints) for Go, but for now i guess i'll rely on print debugging :P
Debugging is coming. They have an active chat for code related to their debugger system in the discord, and a working debugger was almost merged some weeks ago iirc.
I tried that editor on linux. It has to be installed with their bash script. It can't launch due to some error and it has no uninstall script. I hate it
It's in arch's extra repo.
@@quantusr5429 I have debian
@@quantusr5429 well, I installed it from there, but I don't know if it is incompatible with i3, or X11 or something else on my system, but all I get is a window where it draws absolutely nothing. At least VS Code works. And the forced (and locked) AI in cursor is just sooo bad, I am really looking forward to how zed integrates different AIs.
But right now the biggest problems are that it just doesn't run, and (based on this video) the missing/broken remote editing because I do that all the time. So I guess I'll give zed a couple more months before I give it another try, right now it's just dead code to me.
Yep, same.
That is why you're supposed to make a restore/backup point using timeshift or similar software before you install ANYTHING. In your case if you had a backup point setup all you had to do was click on the restore button and revert back to a restore point that you had setup.
Last time i heard from zed it was only available in Mac. didn't know it now also supports Linux and Windows.
That's nice!
What's the use case for 120fps rendering?
Faster cursor blink
I have been using this on linux since I knew It was available and I am living it
One major problem is the font, It's not easy to read
As a former Atom user, this is nice. I have to try it.
cat, echo and sed
A needle and a steady hand
Butterfly!
So cursor is the best development environment I've used recently. It has a ton of things I'd like to see fixed, but it is vs code with actually working ai assistance. As I understand it, a lot of the smarts that make cursor work well are done remotely using handcrafted language models. So I'm not sure how well anything can do what cursor does without reimplementing a lot of that smarts.
Honestly I've been mostly using neovim the past few years. I've used VSC on a few occasions, and it wasn't very smooth. Just tried zed because I was curious. It's REALLY smooth. I am still a C over Rust kind of guy, but if Rust can help us get away from horrible JS/electron based apps, I am happy with that.
A text editor written in a safe language telling you to pipe something from the internet straight into your shell. That seems a bit like an oxymoron
I use nano for quick and easy editing from terminal, Codium was my editor for everything else, text, csv, code (except for C#, I use Visual Studio in VM for it). But considering how incredibly *fast* zed is, I might often use it instead of nano and a lot of times instead of Codium, but not always, because Codium and VSCode has a lot more plugins than zed does
I wonder if chatGPT will allow a Canvas frame integration. I would love to use OpenAI to edit my code, but run/test it locally instead of in the chatGPT interpreter.
I currently use vscode remote. Lack of remote is a killer for me right now, but I'll keep checking and see if the future will fix it.
Lovely that it doesn't make use of the bloated electron
Zed AI now also works with qwen2.5 coder model, It's not perfect but at the speed it's improving I think it's really good to use with local models too
Just installed it - nice to have!
Zed is cool, but I'm all in on Helix Editor now.
The remote feature does work now. happy editing!
iam still using vscode because debugger ui.
Yeah when I can get it running right it’s a good feature. ZED needs a better debug interface asap
I'll switch to Zed when debugger & git integration have landed
vscode works fine dude
just use Emacs and vim. Use the former for programming or note taking and the latter for settings and configuration. These two are battle-tested, stable, and reliable. Master them and you will be find. New things like vscode and zed are things that are hot at first and eventually turn cold, then another will rise again, turns hot, then cold. Just use Emacs!
This is extremely important to neovim users that they don't use vscode. Because vscode works as a data mining machine where improvement goes to visual studio and other paid products.
It's pretty good not as good as vs code but still good enough for me so I'm hopping on this ship
I've got it installed in my Arch distrobox. It's not available on Void Linux. There's a flatpak but I couldn't get it to work.
The thing is I just have a preference for using Lunarvim or Helix.
Well it is not really available for Windows yet, at least publicly.
You have to build it from source.
So long the development team doesn't go with the speed of science, I'm fine with it.
Currently using it for a side project, so far so good. But I still can't bring myself to uninstall vscode yet, just in case I might need it.
I don’t know why you say Various Artists code is slow, it’s lightning fast for me on mac
I think people have a really mistaken idea of what it means that something was compiled with Rust.
I tried Zed before but I don't know how to use it as a text editor (i.e. open 1 single file to edit). 0:43 doesn't have an item to open a single file.
120fps you say? that that mean that when I press a key it will not take as long for the character to appear on screen as it would in vscode? Because, you know, I don't really care what frame rate the UI is rendered on as much as I care how fast my keystrokes are registered.
I use Rust , so Zed can be a good for me. Where can I load it? Should I compile it from sources?
Zed should've been written in Zig
Nope, I rarely get my hopes up for these kind of VS code killer as Unity currently only support VS code and rider. Don't get me wrong, this is a cool thing. But if there's no official support from Unity, then I don't think I'll switch yet for work reasons.
i never used vs code for the simple reason it didnt support 32 bit
It'd be nice if I could integrate wildfly/jboss with it. Eclipse is unreliable on Linux, so I stick with codium.
It's not available for Windows, yet. At least not directly. And the last time I compiled zed on Windows it seemed to have some graphics issues
I wonder if it's possible to force Zed use KDE file picker
wait, I don't think zed worked for windows yet, even building from source
I like my Neovim, but this seems like a good one
Yeah nick I am using it and man i am just loving it. It's simple fast take less ram . And more than that it's written with my favourite programming language Rust.
Glad to hear it
I don’t want to need to know the fps of my text editor. The fact that it’s even mentioned is a concern. Btw vscode renders at the lowest frame rate of all monitors on the pc, rendering faster the vsync is just wasted power, vscode runs at 144fps on my machine. Nice try though.
Note that vscode is an electron app, def leaves a lot of performance on the floor. I welcome competition, this just isn’t some miracle and you’re bashing vscode pretty hard.
Love zed so much. My school laptop runs it no problem and it's got 4gb of ram. Can it run VScode? Probably. But it would lag
Thanks for sharing the exp
Where are the Java extensions?
Correction: Not available for Windows. No different from Sublime in terms of extension or out of the box experience.
It is, you just have to build it from source yourself. Its all on the repo.
@@nozzle4930 rust fails eventually
auto-complete stops working randomly, and doesn't work for html at all. Even with extension. (Downloaded from cachy os repo)
Thanks for sharing
It uses the AGPL license. Project is dead for anything enterprise.
How did you open the default settings? It's not visible in the video
It is and use the command palette window just type default and it should pop up as one of the options
@@SavvyNik Thanks :) but I can type "false" maybe is the flatpak version problem?
too unpolished to replace vscode, many features missing(lack of features)
Does it have a compiler? We have a billion other text editors. How do you know your code actually works if you can't build and compile it?
it's only a code/text editor so builds and compilers isn't supposed to be included out of the box. those features can be accomplished by either the command line or extensions.
@@QuebnQ I'm new to coding but find that rather silly. A glorified notepad if you can't compile. Why input code when you need another application to run it?
Bro what are you saying? Why the fuck a text editor or ide will have a compiler?
4:31 or short attention span 5:12
@@Valk-Kilmer yeah code editors are basically just a glorified notepad. what you are asking for is an Integrated Development Environment or IDE like Visual Studio or Jetbrains IDE where stuff like build systems and compiler are also included alongside the text editor. a developer can build anything as long as he has a text editor and a terminal. what apps like vscode and zed to name a few brings to table is to have syntax highlighting, LSP, an integrated terminal, and the ability to turn it into a IDE through the means of extensions.
zed doesn't work without vulkan at all. so it's no go for me
I use windows text editor btw 😎😎
What happened to Emacs
VSCode and the other IDEs are really just Iphone. Iphone makes a feature already made into many Android devices and people make it like they made a life-changing invention.
Btw Android is vim.
I love zed but it has serious bugs compared to vscode on Linux.
Zed not working on Nobara OS
available for windows ! what ?
Try using it on windows...
Everyone knows True programmer uses echo with '>' operator
Not even close "time to switch" zed still brings nothing beneficial to the table. They need a plugin / addon that enables you to load vscode extensions then MAYBE they will have a chance.
Will it edit Cobol?
No Cobol, no Algol and even no modern Object Pascal (Delphi/FPC).
@@elksalmon84 Welp that makes it useless. Cobol and Pascal are basically requirements
Sadly, no support for windows.
Zed collects anonymous telemetry data to help us understand how people are using the app. Yikes
I hope that they work themselves out of Electron. Web applications as a desktop application is a technical atrocity and the culprit is Javascript and the browser habit of implementing garbage collectors the worst possible way. UPDATE: citing wikipedia: _"A former developer on Atom, Nathan Sobo, announced that he was building the "spiritual successor" to Atom, titled Zed.[26][27][28] Unlike Atom, Zed would be written in Rust and not use the Electron framework.[29]"_ - God bless Zed!
Zed is written with Floem, a Rust-based GUI library. It also uses cosmic-text for rendering text in the GUI.
Vim or vs code for me
Ahahaha killer without killing btw 😂
Sorry, VS Code Rules!
I don't see it as VS Code killer. Not even close in functionality. Needless to say about supported languages. Even less closer, even taking extensions into account.
Nah Neovim still remains king
basically, every new text editor will work fast due to lack of functionality 😂
:) What are you guys smoking? This editor is so buggy and slow that even VS Code is better.
Ehh, Vim is good enough for me
M-x zed
we cannot use zed for java development so, no i wont use it
Just uninstalled it. Didn't like it
Code editor vs a full fledged IDE with modules 🤷🤷🤷
You're comparing Apple to Bananas.
Both VS Code and Zed are text editors.
@@eggsrael4889 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Studio_Code
@@eggsrael4889 The base VS code, yes. But the fact that it allows modules & extensions, makes it an IDE. Albeit it's modular IDE.
they should learn how to publish a package and not have that shitty install shell script that you pipe to bash
I don't see a problem with the shell script, it installed Zed just fine, besides there is a flatpak available to download, however it's unofficial.
Shell script installed it but i can't uninstall it regular way on fedora btw
Is there a setting for making the font "bold"?..I can't use it if not...
yes, you can change the font weight