I agree with what she was talking about, I wish more people shared her view of things. I think we would be happier if we admitted our need for one another, our responsibility for one another. Saints say that we are responsible for the sins of all. At the heart, I think it is secretly a blessing to suffer for the sake of another person's struggle towards God.
My new personal heroes are people who give me the words and formulas to articulate my own complex thoughts, so I can understand... myself, actually. This process of understanding where we actually stand on important, sacred, values is fundamental in social peace because it shines light on all the shadow aspects of our choices and behaviour... and turns shadows into obsolete pointless things. It is jaw-dropping how intelligent so many people are and how important this work is. I commend you all of you for it.
Great podcast, a nice intro for me. First woman I've heard that understands the main problem with feminism has always been sidelining motherhood to the point of silence at best and as a negative in most places, the inability to articulate anything to do with this primary and sex specific fundamental role has been an issue for decades. It's also funny to bring it up with many self described feminists. They usually get angry but they never think about it.
The issue is deciding between which activities society should deem illegal and which the church and other morally aware subcultures should deem only shameful. More often than not those on the left now wish to proceed in the way the church did during Christendom - that is, make all shameful acts illegal (Louise would likewise pull us in that direction). But the church in large measure learnt its lesson that morality ought to be be inspired from the ground up rather than enforced from the top down. Therefore, only actions which infringe upon other's human rights should be illegal and disincentivised by the power of the state, whereas actions which are only immoral (according to whatever moral code one has) should be be permissible but disincentivised through the redeemable shame experienced by an offender who witnesses the virtuous alternative lifestyles of the pious. Otherwise, whoever is in power sets legislation based on whatever their moral code happens to be at the time, resulting in high levels of disingenuous compliance, anger and desire for revenge.
In the USA, it is often right leaning holy men who want such laws. I often joke that they should get a clue from St Thomas Aquinas defending sex workers.
I agree that there are still some in the church that have not learnt this lesson from the gospels and wish to repeat the mistakes of church history. I’m not in the US though and such ‘holy’ men where I live typically are political minorities and politically inept, so thankfully they’re not as big a concern.
GK Chesterton was a Catholic Theologian and was no Christian socialist. Those were catholic values he was talking about. Catholicism and socialism don't mix.
Many Catholics have been distributists, which a form of economics invented by the Catholic Church based on catholic social teachings; a liberal would definitely think distributism is socialist.
26:17 I think about how many people blame that, and never think of the people who observe parents and can't observe the positives outweighing the negatives. What I am hoping for, is that with enough contraception, enough abortion, and enough reduction in social pressure, the "Actually wants children" gene gets selected for, versus the "Sex feel good, where babby come from?" gene 31:25 I joke about how the hellfire and brimstone purity sermons screwed things up, and it seems culture is just a wildly swinging pendulum that can never find equilibrium. Only jerks pushing it out of control. I joke: Comstock: No birth control ever, because morality! Sanger: Mandatory birth control for the feeble minded and poor! The silent majority: Why can't you just stay out?! 35:19 Why is it my problem that Chad won't commit? 37:00 I just say contraception shows how much people actually wanted sex, and how many babies were just a byproduct. With enough of it, natural selection will help the people who never want children to go extinct. Good, no more children treated like crap. 48:52 Yes, it's a matter of drawing a line somewhere. Even the most permissive places have age of consent. 50:42 I always mocked it by saying "Right wing means small government that spends a fortune making marijuana and consensual sex work illegal."
I agree with what she was talking about, I wish more people shared her view of things. I think we would be happier if we admitted our need for one another, our responsibility for one another. Saints say that we are responsible for the sins of all. At the heart, I think it is secretly a blessing to suffer for the sake of another person's struggle towards God.
My new personal heroes are people who give me the words and formulas to articulate my own complex thoughts, so I can understand... myself, actually. This process of understanding where we actually stand on important, sacred, values is fundamental in social peace because it shines light on all the shadow aspects of our choices and behaviour... and turns shadows into obsolete pointless things. It is jaw-dropping how intelligent so many people are and how important this work is. I commend you all of you for it.
Great podcast, a nice intro for me. First woman I've heard that understands the main problem with feminism has always been sidelining motherhood to the point of silence at best and as a negative in most places, the inability to articulate anything to do with this primary and sex specific fundamental role has been an issue for decades. It's also funny to bring it up with many self described feminists. They usually get angry but they never think about it.
Came to you via Louise Perry via Triggernometry via unherd.
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Fantastic podcast, keep up the great work!
Interviewer - thank you for your intelligent comments. What is your name? I didn't catch it anywhere...thanks!
The issue is deciding between which activities society should deem illegal and which the church and other morally aware subcultures should deem only shameful. More often than not those on the left now wish to proceed in the way the church did during Christendom - that is, make all shameful acts illegal (Louise would likewise pull us in that direction). But the church in large measure learnt its lesson that morality ought to be be inspired from the ground up rather than enforced from the top down. Therefore, only actions which infringe upon other's human rights should be illegal and disincentivised by the power of the state, whereas actions which are only immoral (according to whatever moral code one has) should be be permissible but disincentivised through the redeemable shame experienced by an offender who witnesses the virtuous alternative lifestyles of the pious. Otherwise, whoever is in power sets legislation based on whatever their moral code happens to be at the time, resulting in high levels of disingenuous compliance, anger and desire for revenge.
In the USA, it is often right leaning holy men who want such laws. I often joke that they should get a clue from St Thomas Aquinas defending sex workers.
I agree that there are still some in the church that have not learnt this lesson from the gospels and wish to repeat the mistakes of church history. I’m not in the US though and such ‘holy’ men where I live typically are political minorities and politically inept, so thankfully they’re not as big a concern.
GK Chesterton was a Catholic Theologian and was no Christian socialist. Those were catholic values he was talking about. Catholicism and socialism don't mix.
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Many Catholics have been distributists, which a form of economics invented by the Catholic Church based on catholic social teachings; a liberal would definitely think distributism is socialist.
I live in the USA, and Jesus' biggest fans said they were the biggest fans of free market economics, until someone sold things holy men don't like.
26:17 I think about how many people blame that, and never think of the people who observe parents and can't observe the positives outweighing the negatives.
What I am hoping for, is that with enough contraception, enough abortion, and enough reduction in social pressure, the "Actually wants children" gene gets selected for, versus the "Sex feel good, where babby come from?" gene
31:25 I joke about how the hellfire and brimstone purity sermons screwed things up, and it seems culture is just a wildly swinging pendulum that can never find equilibrium. Only jerks pushing it out of control.
I joke:
Comstock: No birth control ever, because morality!
Sanger: Mandatory birth control for the feeble minded and poor!
The silent majority: Why can't you just stay out?!
35:19 Why is it my problem that Chad won't commit?
37:00 I just say contraception shows how much people actually wanted sex, and how many babies were just a byproduct. With enough of it, natural selection will help the people who never want children to go extinct. Good, no more children treated like crap.
48:52 Yes, it's a matter of drawing a line somewhere. Even the most permissive places have age of consent.
50:42 I always mocked it by saying "Right wing means small government that spends a fortune making marijuana and consensual sex work illegal."