How to play powerful and spinny backhand loop against backspin | COMPLETE STEP BY STEP TUTORIAL

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  • @user-ln4ti8qo9h
    @user-ln4ti8qo9h ปีที่แล้ว

    A very good explanation of the topspin on the right. For myself, I took the useful thing that it is necessary to move not so much up, but up-to the right. Thank you very much!!!

  • @aldopalacios3357
    @aldopalacios3357 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very well explained. Thank you very much.

  • @samburrows7277
    @samburrows7277 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Thanks

  • @thomasgrootnibbelink9188
    @thomasgrootnibbelink9188 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @andychan5781
    @andychan5781 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good teaching

  • @jimingyang5705
    @jimingyang5705 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @zizo015
    @zizo015 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice. But I thought the ball loses spin the longer it flies.. So I thought later the ball spins less..I understand the fact that you you need less force when hitting early because the ball still has speed.. Confused!

    • @rationalttanalysis
      @rationalttanalysis  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The longer the ball flies the spinnier it is , take forehand counter topspin as an example, you want to do it as early as possible, if you let the ball drop ,there is huge amount of topspin, therefore difficult to counter

    • @pierrejacquin8150
      @pierrejacquin8150 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Objects doesn't accelerate from nothing, this apply to spin on a ball. If you contact the ball at point 2, the trajectory in upward so it's easier to lift up the ball compare to when it has already goes down.

    • @darekk7459
      @darekk7459 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@rationalttanalysis But when you watch the best players, it seems that with heavy backspin they topspin the ball very soon after the ball reaches maximum height. I too feel that it is good to hit at 2-point as you said when the backspin is light or average, but with a heavy backspin I find it easier to return the topspin just after the ball has reached maximum height.

    • @defenderyogo8937
      @defenderyogo8937 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@pierrejacquin8150agree, contact point 2 more on redirecting and borrowing upward momentum

  • @julest2503
    @julest2503 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo on this great backhand topspin vs underspin ball coaching video. As usual the details n graphic are awesome. Since you live in HK, can I request a coaching video of penhold special strokes that makes it really different from handshake grip🙏🏼

    • @rationalttanalysis
      @rationalttanalysis  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment! As I'm not a shakehand player, I don't know a lot about penhold techniques. However, in the future, I can do a series of penhold technique tutorials after some research, for example the reverse penhold backhand (RPB).

  • @baxi3838_SG
    @baxi3838_SG ปีที่แล้ว

    your knowledge and info is so deep and precious. please consider uploading materials that focus Short pips rubber. more power to your channel

  • @zizo015
    @zizo015 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again. You said the waist and body should rotate horizontally following the weight transfer. I understand horizontally as sideways from left to right without or with only a little vertical component (down-up). Right? So first go down, transfer the weight to the left leg, turn waist/body/legs to the left left and then rotate only sideways to the right. This means that only the arm with the racket will be moving down-up + sideways to right + forward.. In this setup the ball will be hit slightly to the right of the body in front of the left hip??
    Am I correct with the above points? The body stays low through the whole shot!? Thanks a lot and I love your analysis and understanding of tt

    • @rationalttanalysis
      @rationalttanalysis  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment! Yes absolutely. You’re right with the above points. And yes your body should stay low through the whole shot but move your body from backwards to forwards

    • @zizo015
      @zizo015 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rationalttanalysis thanks. You said the body should move from backwards to forward. What do you exactly mean with "horizontal"?
      Does it mean: At the SAME low level horizontally from backwards to forward while rotating the hip and swinging the racket hand upwards lifting the ball? So the lift comes from the hand+wirst (mainly upwards movement) and the power comes from the body/hip rotation (forward movement)..??? Thanks in advance

  • @chebkhaled1985
    @chebkhaled1985 ปีที่แล้ว

    Regarding weight shift, it seems like sometimes it from right to left (FZD , ML first footage) and sometimes it is from the left to right (Lilly Zhang and ML with LG)

    • @chebkhaled1985
      @chebkhaled1985 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let me rephrase that : sometimes you put the weight on the right foot, sometimes on the left

    • @rationalttanalysis
      @rationalttanalysis  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is a very good point. According to a recent video where Fang Bo demonstrates the backhand topspin , he says that if the ball is to the left side of you, you put weight on your left foot. If the ball is to the right side, you put weight on your right. If it is in the middle, you can decide which foot to put weight to.
      But… one thing is certain, you’ll never shift your weight from right to left as a right-handed player, you can put weight on your right, but then you go even right or go forward, not to the left.
      Hope that helps !

  • @movakalin5333
    @movakalin5333 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 3:57 is that Ma Long with his coach Liu Goliang? is coach Liu Goliang holding the racket shakehand style for exercise?

  • @SubparProgrammer
    @SubparProgrammer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At at 3:25 “The later after the ball bounces on the table, the spinnier it becomes”. How does the ball GAIN more spin when its in the air? I agree that you want to hit it early, but the associated logic is not right.

    • @nishantupadhyay01
      @nishantupadhyay01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also think he is wrong.

    • @rationalttanalysis
      @rationalttanalysis  ปีที่แล้ว

      As the ball bounces and hits the table, the friction reduces the rotation, after the bounce the rotation increases which makes the ball spinnier.

    • @nishantupadhyay01
      @nishantupadhyay01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rationalttanalysis what???

    • @patrikpetersson8248
      @patrikpetersson8248 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The ball doesn't increase it's rotational energy while in the air. It's impossible.

    • @MultiSync3V
      @MultiSync3V 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is definitely standard TT wisdom. The idea here is at the moment where the ball makes contact with the table, the friction of the table upon contact stops the spin. And I think we can all agree that at the moment of contact with the table, the ball isn't spinning. The spin then returns as the ball moves away from the table only to slow down again. If this is correct is another matter.

  • @nishantupadhyay01
    @nishantupadhyay01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't agree on the hitting point you mentioned.

    • @struppihuppi
      @struppihuppi ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, I agree very much on the hitting point he mentioned.

    • @rationalttanalysis
      @rationalttanalysis  ปีที่แล้ว

      Why not??

    • @timmyle6911
      @timmyle6911 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rationalttanalysis I was told that you would want to hit a ball with backspin between point 3 and 4 due to the natural "lifting" motion of the backhand stroke? Unless there are different philosophies?