Hey Marcel, I really enjoy your videos, but I’ve been downloading all of your libraries from Gumroad and there are a number of things that are adding a lot of extra work. As some others mentioned, the long file names are an issue in windows (the 256 character count includes the folders that sfx are in, it’s the full file path not just the file name), I would personally rather have most of that info in the description and a much simpler file name. Another issue is UCS requires underscores and in specific places and very specific capitalization to be recognized properly in Soundly. Using a comma after the CAT ID and sometimes inconsistent capitalization in your file names means I have to go back and rename every file to be UCS compliant. This is days, maybe weeks of work if I download all of your libraries. UCS format is CATID_fxname_creatorID_sourceID (source ID is the library name) so to be truly UCS compliant this example file should have been named “AMBSubn_Residential Neighborhood, Bird, Fountain, Calm Wind, Soft Rain, Background Traffic, Daytime, Kadikoy, Istanbul, Turkey, MKH 8040, Zoom F6, 19232_FTUS_Turkey Amb” but to avoid the file name limit I would personally go with something like, “AMBSubn_Residential Neighborhood, Kadikoy, Istanbul, Turkey, Daytime 01_FTUS_Turkey Amb”
Well, I like you as a human being, I can totally identify with how you talk about the world and passion. I am a beginner and having a lot of fun with some simple recorders, you videos are very helpful.
I am a Game Music composer, however, lately also interested in sound design. I fell in love in your content. Amazing work and please know that your efforts with this content are priceless. Thank you!
Vielen Dank für die vielen sehr professionell gedrehten Videos. Ich bin schon gespannt, welche Sounds mir auf meiner 1 jährigen Reise mit dem Auto begegnen werden.
Great video Marcel! Most of the time I add the spoken audio slate at the end of the recording rather than the beginning. I'm most often in a hurry to begin recording the subject so don't want to waste time. This is such a useful tip when you record a lot before getting round to editing.
Hi Colin, thank you so much for watching and you are so right about it. if a train comes by for example you won't interrupt the recordings from the start. :)
Thank you for spreading this information. I also was trying to fix my files for about a year, and I had my personal folder structure, but I didn’t know about USC . A week ago started organizing to UCS. I know is going to be a lot of work , and I was mad I didn’t know about this, but at least now I’ll have a uniformed library. Still learning the details, but I think wouldn’t be a bad idea to have someone explaining the categories and sub categories in detail (along the sound) because is a bit confusing for people like me , that English is not the primary language. Thank u again for this video
Hi! If you're using Soundminer or downloading the spreadsheet, I believe you can adjust the language settings there. My workflow has changed since the video was made, too. For example, the categories are just for reference so you know where to put the files in. For my latest VR recordings, like Seaside Ambience from Hong Kong, the file name might look like this: AMBSea-WYZX_HongKong-Ambience, Seaside... and for stereo files, I use LR instead of WYZX. M for Mono, LRbi for Stereo Binaural and so on. This format helps sound engineers split and use files as needed. Hope this info helps because it's not in the video!
Thank you for sharing this very useful information. I do sound recording since a few years and recently I began asking myself how to ad metatdata to the soundfiles. Because files without metatdata are just noise. So here I am, my question solved. Great!
Thank you, Marcel, for this and your content as a whole. I've just upgraded to the F6 following your recommendation, and it's really excellent. I'm glad that you covered the UCS as this has helped me to file and categorise my recordings - something I have struggled with so far.. excellent recommendation. Keep putting out this great content..!
Thank you Mark! This video is quiet old and I improved my metadata description and writing. But if you follow the UCS guidelines you're doing great! Thank you for watching :)
Thanks for another useful video Libby and Marcel! I'm just learning this system, but underscores "_" in file names seem significant and may be interpreted by databases or applications that understand UCS. So, again, if I understand correctly, an underscore after the Category and Subcategory would be important. AMBSubn_Residential neighbourhood, ... Please let me know if this is correct when you get a chance.
@@tedleroy2778 You’re correct! Having AMBSubn_ instead of AMBSubn, is the way the go. The video is older and I also realized that later on when the program started to read the subcategories. Thanks for the reminder! 🙏
Hello ,nice videos! I'm about to sort it out hours of recording in my H5, what do you think is the most effective way (software) to create my library ? Thank you!
Thank You Marcel, This really helped. Before knowing this, I used to record sound and make a folder in a different way as the metadata. For instance if I recorded ambience sound in a particular cafe/restaurant, I would name a folder in the name of that cafe/restaurant and put my sound there. I have two recorders from Zoom (H6 and H1n), and they had their own folders. That meant going time and again to specific folders of the recorder and dumping my sounds. This helped to organise better. Thanks again.
Hi Ayan, Glad I could help with the video. I know we all create our own folder and structure system and you should do what works best for you but I do believe if you later try to sell your sounds, a universal specific category system is great.
You are amazing, to share your learned info so freely, you are a treasure to TH-cam and the audio community. Question, of all the apps for sound editing, how did you land on Audition? What are its feature set that pulled you in? I am gathering my kit together and going to head out in a new side hustle in field recording after your videos feeling that I got this! Cheers.
I'm sure you got this Cory! Well, back in 2017 I started with Audition and always use it until today. For field recording editing its perfect for me. I always liked the design of it.
@@FreeToUseSounds I use the Notes app in iOS as well as desktop, you can share the notes to all devices so you can add info while in the field as well as pick them up when back in the studio. Just another tool to do the same thing as Pages. Cheers.
Ok, did my first recording today, outputted the file with metadata as you show, pretty slick. What does one do with the .pkf file that also is output from Audition? Is this used for anything? Is the large folder structure for the final .wav/metadat files for anything other than organization? Do you duplicate one for each recording trip, per month, year? Looking for some more info on the folders and how to use them in a workflow. Yippee, very excited to get this going.
@@CoryShubert Hi Cory! I delete the pkf file that comes with it. Also make sure you get rid of the "?" if that appears at the end of your files. The folder structure is for organization correct. I do duplicate the files on different hard drives and online cloud storage. If I loose the files or a hard drive stops working, I always have a backup.
@@MartinBircher Oh dann warte aufs neue video. "Field Recording on a budget". Wir sind in der Stadt unterwegs und nehmen natuerlich jede Menge sounds auf. :). Wir sind noch zwei Wochen hier und wenn sich bis dato nix aendert, holen wir uns einen Mietwagen und reisen durchs Land.
Hi Jari! Thank you so much for your input and yes it is really important to have these little helpers. Right now I'm listening back to Hong Kong files. If I wouldn't have done the talking part, I wouldn't know where in this mega city I have these sounds recorded.
Glad to hear that and if you follow this system you have no extra work in future. Believe me. Right now I'm rewriting over 1TB of sounds :) You don't want that.
Wow! Big thank you. Exactly what I have been seeking. Presented so well also. I applaud you guys on your adventures and would love to be doing what you are doing. Keep it up. Such an inspiration. Bon Chance! et Merci
This was a great one! Been recording for a bit and although I'm not selling any yet, it's super useful to know there is a standard organization and naming convention. I created my own system for now which took a long time to define, but I will change to the UCS soon! Thanks a lot for the awesome videos!
excellent vids, thank you. It would be helpful if you could mention free alternatives for the software you are using? especially for amateurs like me the Adobe suite is quite pricy. thank you!
hey do you really include every single sound effect you recorded into this one big folder structure? im currently struggling how to keep things organized..
Great video and advice! Will definitely use UCS from now on, even if I am just using my recordings for personal use. I also found the article by Melissa Pons very helpfull, just as another view on this topic.
Glad you are using UCS! And thanks for spreading the word. The only thing that I find strange is that your ambiences are in 192/32. Most of the time, 48/24 is just fine, in rare occasions 96/24 is necessary. Just my 2 cents.
Hi Innokentiy ( cool name by the way)! I'm glad I can reach more people and tell them about UCS. Oh yes that is just me recording and exporting in this format. I never master my files and let people decide how they are exporting later the files.
UCS is amazing, I use Reaper for audio ( I have just getting into location/field/production) and there is a useful plug that intergrates and will automaticaly edit the metadata for you and rewrite the track names for you ( based on your selections) I am really enjoying all your videos & sounds. You have introduced me to LOM products and I am waiting for them to come into stock. You both seem like wonderfull people. If you come to the uk I would love to buy you both a drink and chat all things soundy. Take care and stay safe.
What's the plugin for Reaper? I use Ableton as my main DAW, but really enjoyed Reapers configurability when looking into it. I was considering using Reaper for my field recordings, and Ableton for everything else. UCS sounds amazing, pretty much a year ago I was looking into organisation for my recordings, but didn't find anything to my liking. This looks exactly like what I was looking for =) And agreed, he's a top lad, and surely his partner too ;)
Hi Mark! Thank you so much and yes I watched the tutorial about the Reaper option. It's really great and we're glad you enjoyed the videos. We have a new one coming up on Sunday. If we are able to visit the UK yeah lets meet up. :)
Hi Marc. Here on TH-cam you can search for "UCS for Reaper" and you will find it. Make sure you check out the website and the FB group if you need more information. :)
This is fantastic. Getting to see your *workflow* is so valuable for me. Even more than gear reviews & recording techniques (although I _love_ those too). Thanks Marcel & Libby.
Hi Tamas, we were discussing Soundminer with a friend who visited us today in Bangkok. I do not personally know Justin nor have I used Soundminer before. However, I am aware that our sound recordings have a metadata list available on the Soundminer platform for users to access.
Marcel, do you ever export short recordings from a long one? Like snipping out specific sounds from an ambient recording? If so, do you do anything different when writing their filename / metadata?
This would be a great application for FileMaker. Store the audio and meta data in the same database. You can also maintain a table for the UCS list and make the fields in UCS pop-up menus. Wow. I might have to create this…
Hi Marcel, why do you export the file after adding metadata to it in Adobe Audition, instead of just saving the original file with the new data and edits? Also, if exporting a second file is the best workflow, what do you do with your original sound file, because now you have two versions of the same sound (the original, and now the exported version with edits and metadata). Good tutorial and info...thanks.
Hi Scott! Thank you for asking. Because I always keep the original files untouched on a hard drive and another DP folder. After I export to a new file it is not the same file. Not in this example but if I edit other sounds, I cut the files, use different filters and manipulate the files so that I upload these recordings for my libraries. If I would save the files, it would overwrite the original file. Sometimes I go back to the original file and cut out parts and use it for sound design or use other parts that I sell to other sound libraries. Always keep the original file because you never know if you need it someday.
Soundly provides a function for naming the files with UCS standard. Its easier. Just sayin... and as far as what I learned from UCS, file names should be short and categoryid etc is separated by an underscore.. but thx for the insights tho!:)
Hi Pille! Thank you for watching and yes that’s correct. Soundly just enrolled this feature yesterday and I check it out for sure since I’m a Soundly user and provider. You can find me inside the Add On section. Since I use Bandcamp I can’t have the files in a much shorter form because BC erased the metadata description. Also I’m personally not a fan of using underscores.
@@FreeToUseSounds As my library grows, I started looking for a better way to manage and find the sounds I need. I am actually surprised someone has written an open-source product to do this. I have a problem with subscriptions for software I don't use everyday. :(
@@leelovetv I understand your point. If your library is not too big, you can use the free version. However, there is another free software available that can help you discover the right sound. I don't recall its name at the moment, but I'll try to remember it and let you know if it comes back to me.
@@FreeToUseSounds I will do some research and see what I can find. I am not opposed to paying for software, it is paying every month that bugs me. I believe this is part of the reason people are leaving Adobe for Blackmagic and Affinity products.
Hey! Ich bin gerade total fasziniert von eurem Kanal und bin ein Video nach dem anderen am durchsuchten :-) Ich mache schon seit 5 Jahren nebenbei immer mal wieder Field Recordings, welche ich aber bisher ausschließlich für meine eigenen Musikproduktionen benutzt habe. Ich habe aber Bock das ganze auf ein neues Level zu heben und da kommt mir das Video hier gerade recht... Ich habe aber eine Frage dazu: Wenn ich die Aufnahmen dann in die Ordnerstruktur einsortiere... Dann kann es ja so das nur in wenigen vereinzelten Ordnern überhaupt Files drin sind... Das wird dann ja bei so vielen Ordnern und Unterordnern zu einer Suche nach der Nadel im Heuhaufen... Also wenn ihr zu einem bestimmten Ort oder einer bestimmten Aufnahmetag ein Sound Pack macht... löscht ihr dann immer manuell alle Ordner in denen keine Files sind? Freue mich darauf alle Videos auf dem Channel nachzuholen! Macht weiter so! Du bist super sympathisch!!! Grüße aus Berlin!
Hallo Dennis! Super das Du uns gefunden hast. Richtig. Ich lösche die leeren Ordner normalerweise aber was ich nun in Zukunft mache ist das ich die UCS Liste auch als Ordner Referenz nehme und diese gar nicht mehr runterlade sondern einfach manuell erstelle und benenne. Da spart man sich die Arbeit mit dem löschen. :)
hmm all caps = unreadable ..., and long filenames ... well there is a cap of 255 characters on windows paths, so really not thought trough imo. short file names, with meta in the file should be the way to go or some database /excel with a hash...
Yes Windows has a character limit but you can shorten them with the good old Total Commander if needed. UCS is created by Tim Nielsen from Sky Walker Sound and many other high class sound designers. They know what they doing. Only the CAT ID is all caps and I have no problem reading these files in Soundly or Soundminer. Also, Soundly, Soundminer and Reaper already implemented UCS so I really don't understand what problem you have. If you don't use the file name for all tags and put these tags or keywords in the file description then you don't run into character limit issues.
@@FreeToUseSounds I must have misunderstood my apologies. If it is not common practice to use excessive long filenames with tags then yes. Ran into this issue the other day when downloading a large Library that half of the download was missing because it couldn't put it on disk. Had do do some python mojo to get it to work, really a waste of time. I wouldn't want this issue to get into a standardized system. Also clamping filenames is not good practice if you collab or merge libs, as this should be the strong point of this folder structure and would beat the purpose imo. ALL CAPS is good for titles that stand on there own, reading a file path straight on the explorer is already hard enough, getting all caps means more scrolling as they are larger and readability declines. Again If you use a program that makes it readable and it's a one time thing then yes fine, also from an IT point of view, I wouldn't recommend spaces in filenames, just my experience. I don't want to rant or anything, I think it's a good step in the right direction and love your content and effort for putting this out!
It's been awhile, but there is only one issue with your SFX libraries, too much words/letters in the filename! So you cant import them into Soundminer properly... :/ BTW you can add your F6, mics, location etc, into metadata fields and not in the filename. Otherwise, keep up the good work ;)
Hi! Oh yes that only happens if you are on Windows. The character limit ends at 250. If you shorten the files, they work again. Bandcamp also automatically added the library title in front of each file what makes the file longer. If I add the recorder, location within the metadata, this will be erased with Bandcamp. That is why I keep it in the filename.
@@foxaudiofr Yeah on Mac, you don't have this problem. If you want check out the good old Total Commander. With that program you can rename files in a breeze. :)
Hey Marcel, I really enjoy your videos, but I’ve been downloading all of your libraries from Gumroad and there are a number of things that are adding a lot of extra work. As some others mentioned, the long file names are an issue in windows (the 256 character count includes the folders that sfx are in, it’s the full file path not just the file name), I would personally rather have most of that info in the description and a much simpler file name. Another issue is UCS requires underscores and in specific places and very specific capitalization to be recognized properly in Soundly. Using a comma after the CAT ID and sometimes inconsistent capitalization in your file names means I have to go back and rename every file to be UCS compliant. This is days, maybe weeks of work if I download all of your libraries. UCS format is CATID_fxname_creatorID_sourceID (source ID is the library name) so to be truly UCS compliant this example file should have been named “AMBSubn_Residential Neighborhood, Bird, Fountain, Calm Wind, Soft Rain, Background Traffic, Daytime, Kadikoy, Istanbul, Turkey, MKH 8040, Zoom F6, 19232_FTUS_Turkey Amb” but to avoid the file name limit I would personally go with something like, “AMBSubn_Residential Neighborhood, Kadikoy, Istanbul, Turkey, Daytime 01_FTUS_Turkey Amb”
Great to see you spreading the word on UCS and helping more sound designers to get to know about it.
Hi Prashant! Thank you so much for watching and yes I do believe its a great way to categorize and organize our sound recordings. :)
I just want to chime in and say that I've been wondering how to organize my samples and recordings for a few years now, and this is perfect. Thanks!
@@mikeexits so glad to hear that Mike! :)
Your videos are so informational, I wish I saw these before I went to all the different places I've been lol!
Well, I like you as a human being, I can totally identify with how you talk about the world and passion. I am a beginner and having a lot of fun with some simple recorders, you videos are very helpful.
Thank you for the nice comment! I hope you enjoy the world of sound recordings!
Considering getting into Sound Curation and your channel is my SINGLE greatest source of information as to how to do so. Thank you so very much!
Thank you so much Ken!!
I am a Game Music composer, however, lately also interested in sound design.
I fell in love in your content. Amazing work and please know that your efforts with this content are priceless.
Thank you!
Vielen Dank für die vielen sehr professionell gedrehten Videos. Ich bin schon gespannt, welche Sounds mir auf meiner 1 jährigen Reise mit dem Auto begegnen werden.
Cheers for sharing this mate - something I've never done well and now paying the consequences of!
Great video Marcel!
Most of the time I add the spoken audio slate at the end of the recording rather than the beginning. I'm most often in a hurry to begin recording the subject so don't want to waste time. This is such a useful tip when you record a lot before getting round to editing.
Hi Colin, thank you so much for watching and you are so right about it. if a train comes by for example you won't interrupt the recordings from the start. :)
Oh my god, I've been recording for years and I never thought of this. What a great tip - cheers!
Thank you for spreading this information. I also was trying to fix my files for about a year, and I had my personal folder structure, but I didn’t know about USC . A week ago started organizing to UCS. I know is going to be a lot of work , and I was mad I didn’t know about this, but at least now I’ll have a uniformed library. Still learning the details, but I think wouldn’t be a bad idea to have someone explaining the categories and sub categories in detail (along the sound) because is a bit confusing for people like me , that English is not the primary language. Thank u again for this video
Hi! If you're using Soundminer or downloading the spreadsheet, I believe you can adjust the language settings there. My workflow has changed since the video was made, too. For example, the categories are just for reference so you know where to put the files in. For my latest VR recordings, like Seaside Ambience from Hong Kong, the file name might look like this: AMBSea-WYZX_HongKong-Ambience, Seaside... and for stereo files, I use LR instead of WYZX. M for Mono, LRbi for Stereo Binaural and so on. This format helps sound engineers split and use files as needed. Hope this info helps because it's not in the video!
Thank you for sharing this very useful information. I do sound recording since a few years and recently I began asking myself how to ad metatdata to the soundfiles. Because files without metatdata are just noise. So here I am, my question solved. Great!
Thank you so much! The video is already outdated and we’re filming a new one soon!
Thank you, Marcel, for this and your content as a whole. I've just upgraded to the F6 following your recommendation, and it's really excellent. I'm glad that you covered the UCS as this has helped me to file and categorise my recordings - something I have struggled with so far.. excellent recommendation.
Keep putting out this great content..!
Thank you Mark! This video is quiet old and I improved my metadata description and writing. But if you follow the UCS guidelines you're doing great! Thank you for watching :)
Thanks for another useful video Libby and Marcel! I'm just learning this system, but underscores "_" in file names seem significant and may be interpreted by databases or applications that understand UCS. So, again, if I understand correctly, an underscore after the Category and Subcategory would be important. AMBSubn_Residential neighbourhood, ... Please let me know if this is correct when you get a chance.
Also wondering of use of comma's might not be problematic if reading file names in comma separated value (.csv) files?
@@tedleroy2778 You’re correct! Having AMBSubn_ instead of AMBSubn, is the way the go. The video is older and I also realized that later on when the program started to read the subcategories. Thanks for the reminder! 🙏
Great tutorial, THANKS! Also, I also use Audition as well...Thanks for posting
Pleasure! Yeah Adobe Audition is great for editing field recording.
Great help, thank you, I never would have thought that someone made the folder structure available, this is a very big help !
Oh yes that was Tim Nielsen’s idea :)
Hello ,nice videos! I'm about to sort it out hours of recording in my H5, what do you think is the most effective way (software) to create my library ?
Thank you!
Thank You Marcel, This really helped. Before knowing this, I used to record sound and make a folder in a different way as the metadata. For instance if I recorded ambience sound in a particular cafe/restaurant, I would name a folder in the name of that cafe/restaurant and put my sound there. I have two recorders from Zoom (H6 and H1n), and they had their own folders. That meant going time and again to specific folders of the recorder and dumping my sounds. This helped to organise better. Thanks again.
my name is Ayan by the way
Hi Ayan, Glad I could help with the video. I know we all create our own folder and structure system and you should do what works best for you but I do believe if you later try to sell your sounds, a universal specific category system is great.
@@FreeToUseSounds Yes, Marcel totally agree. And thank you again.
Great, inspiring and useful videos!
The only gear I have by now is headphones (Sennheiser HD 201) and my mobile XD
You are amazing, to share your learned info so freely, you are a treasure to TH-cam and the audio community. Question, of all the apps for sound editing, how did you land on Audition? What are its feature set that pulled you in? I am gathering my kit together and going to head out in a new side hustle in field recording after your videos feeling that I got this! Cheers.
I'm sure you got this Cory! Well, back in 2017 I started with Audition and always use it until today. For field recording editing its perfect for me. I always liked the design of it.
@@FreeToUseSounds I use the Notes app in iOS as well as desktop, you can share the notes to all devices so you can add info while in the field as well as pick them up when back in the studio. Just another tool to do the same thing as Pages. Cheers.
Ok, did my first recording today, outputted the file with metadata as you show, pretty slick. What does one do with the .pkf file that also is output from Audition? Is this used for anything? Is the large folder structure for the final .wav/metadat files for anything other than organization? Do you duplicate one for each recording trip, per month, year? Looking for some more info on the folders and how to use them in a workflow. Yippee, very excited to get this going.
@@CoryShubert Hi Cory! I delete the pkf file that comes with it. Also make sure you get rid of the "?" if that appears at the end of your files. The folder structure is for organization correct. I do duplicate the files on different hard drives and online cloud storage. If I loose the files or a hard drive stops working, I always have a backup.
So many questions answered. Danke, macht so weiter!
Hallo Martin! Das freut uns riesig! Happy recording and writing metadata :)
@@FreeToUseSounds Geniesst Istanbul - eine meiner Lieblingsstädte. :)
@@MartinBircher Oh dann warte aufs neue video. "Field Recording on a budget". Wir sind in der Stadt unterwegs und nehmen natuerlich jede Menge sounds auf. :). Wir sind noch zwei Wochen hier und wenn sich bis dato nix aendert, holen wir uns einen Mietwagen und reisen durchs Land.
This is a GREAT video! The handclapping is a great tip! Thanks for sharing! UCS rocks!
Hi Jari! Thank you so much for your input and yes it is really important to have these little helpers. Right now I'm listening back to Hong Kong files. If I wouldn't have done the talking part, I wouldn't know where in this mega city I have these sounds recorded.
Was trying out field recording today, and started to think about metadata - so this was great to find!
Glad to hear that and if you follow this system you have no extra work in future. Believe me. Right now I'm rewriting over 1TB of sounds :) You don't want that.
So simple, but so brilliant (talking about the recording on it)
Thank you!
Wow! Big thank you. Exactly what I have been seeking. Presented so well also. I applaud you guys on your adventures and would love to be doing what you are doing. Keep it up. Such an inspiration. Bon Chance! et Merci
Thank you so much for your nice comment and always remember, if we can do it, you can do :)
Great description! Thanks a lot!
Thanks for watching.
This was fantastic and immensely helpful for me. Thank you! I absolutely love your content and your inspiring attitude. Keep up the great work!
Hi Thomas! That makes us happy and so nice to see you here. Next week we have a new video up! :) Stay tuned.
Thank you so much! This is exactly what I was trying to find out. Keep up the wonderful work you guys! ;)
Awesome Hashim! So glad we could help!! New video coming up on Tuesday :)
Thank you so much! Always surprising with awesome sound design videos!
Glad you enjoy it!
This was a great one! Been recording for a bit and although I'm not selling any yet, it's super useful to know there is a standard organization and naming convention. I created my own system for now which took a long time to define, but I will change to the UCS soon! Thanks a lot for the awesome videos!
Thank you so much Viktor, I use parts of the UCS but still keep my own workflow.
@@FreeToUseSounds Yes! It's probably best to take what you prefer from the UCS and adapt it to your workflow/system. :)
Hi. Thanks for videos. Do you prefer open or closed back headphones for monitoring while capturing sound? Which headphones do you prefer?
Good video! Thanks!
Thank you Libby and Marcel! :)
You are very welcome Ivo :)
Very good information. You are very organised person 😀
Thanks... hadn't thought this far.
Glad I could help :)
This is just so helpful! Thanks for sharing!
Pleasure!
excellent vids, thank you. It would be helpful if you could mention free alternatives for the software you are using? especially for amateurs like me
the Adobe suite is quite pricy. thank you!
Well, got could start with the free version of Soundly.
hey do you really include every single sound effect you recorded into this one big folder structure? im currently struggling how to keep things organized..
Great video and advice! Will definitely use UCS from now on, even if I am just using my recordings for personal use. I also found the article by Melissa Pons very helpfull, just as another view on this topic.
Hi Jonas! Thank you so much for watching and the article from Melissa is great indeed. We all met in Lisbon last year. :)
Thank you very much for your video, that’s exactly what I was looking for! Also the UCS system is crucial for any sound designer 😎
Glad you found the video :)
Very Usefull!!! Thank You for shareing.
Pleasure!
Perfect 👌 Just what I needed to know, all I’ve got to do is put it into practice. Thank you 🙏👍
Glad to hear that. We. have a new video coming up soon!
Need "save GPS data" button as well for the field recording.... (like some cameras can embed GPS in a photo)
True. I do take photos on the spot and it is possible to include the coordinates.
Glad you are using UCS! And thanks for spreading the word. The only thing that I find strange is that your ambiences are in 192/32. Most of the time, 48/24 is just fine, in rare occasions 96/24 is necessary. Just my 2 cents.
Hi Innokentiy ( cool name by the way)! I'm glad I can reach more people and tell them about UCS. Oh yes that is just me recording and exporting in this format. I never master my files and let people decide how they are exporting later the files.
@@FreeToUseSounds thanks for your response. Makes sense!
Very helpful video. Thank you!
Excelente video. Desconocía por completo esa forma de organizar los trabajos. Creo que me va a ser de gran utilidad.
Hi Rafa! That is awesome that I could share with you some insights about metadata! Happy recording :)
UCS is amazing, I use Reaper for audio ( I have just getting into location/field/production) and there is a useful plug that intergrates and will automaticaly edit the metadata for you and rewrite the track names for you ( based on your selections) I am really enjoying all your videos & sounds. You have introduced me to LOM products and I am waiting for them to come into stock. You both seem like wonderfull people. If you come to the uk I would love to buy you both a drink and chat all things soundy. Take care and stay safe.
What's the plugin for Reaper?
I use Ableton as my main DAW, but really enjoyed Reapers configurability when looking into it. I was considering using Reaper for my field recordings, and Ableton for everything else.
UCS sounds amazing, pretty much a year ago I was looking into organisation for my recordings, but didn't find anything to my liking. This looks exactly like what I was looking for =)
And agreed, he's a top lad, and surely his partner too ;)
Hi Mark! Thank you so much and yes I watched the tutorial about the Reaper option. It's really great and we're glad you enjoyed the videos. We have a new one coming up on Sunday. If we are able to visit the UK yeah lets meet up. :)
Hi Marc. Here on TH-cam you can search for "UCS for Reaper" and you will find it. Make sure you check out the website and the FB group if you need more information. :)
I’m not a sound designer yet but this is amazing. I’ve been looking to get into the field as a hobby. I guess I’ll do it right.
I’m sure you will.
This is fantastic. Getting to see your *workflow* is so valuable for me. Even more than gear reviews & recording techniques (although I _love_ those too).
Thanks Marcel & Libby.
Thank you Patrick!
Thank you; I can't wait to watch and apply what I learn.
That is wonderful Yenra! Please be safe and I read about the operation. I hope everything will turn out to the best.
@@FreeToUseSounds Back home and watched, started practicing metadata.
@@yenra Awesome! I'm glad you are back. Also check out the links to UCS.
are you planning to give Justin (sound miner) the newly entered UCS metadata of your old recording so we can retrieve it from the cloud?
Hi Tamas, we were discussing Soundminer with a friend who visited us today in Bangkok. I do not personally know Justin nor have I used Soundminer before. However, I am aware that our sound recordings have a metadata list available on the Soundminer platform for users to access.
Wonderful. Thank you.
Our pleasure! :)
Marcel, do you ever export short recordings from a long one? Like snipping out specific sounds from an ambient recording?
If so, do you do anything different when writing their filename / metadata?
Oh yes I do that do and put these files in a different category.
This would be a great application for FileMaker. Store the audio and meta data in the same database. You can also maintain a table for the UCS list and make the fields in UCS pop-up menus. Wow. I might have to create this…
Great info. Thank you
Pleasure!
Hi Marcel, why do you export the file after adding metadata to it in Adobe Audition, instead of just saving the original file with the new data and edits? Also, if exporting a second file is the best workflow, what do you do with your original sound file, because now you have two versions of the same sound (the original, and now the exported version with edits and metadata). Good tutorial and info...thanks.
Hi Scott! Thank you for asking. Because I always keep the original files untouched on a hard drive and another DP folder. After I export to a new file it is not the same file. Not in this example but if I edit other sounds, I cut the files, use different filters and manipulate the files so that I upload these recordings for my libraries.
If I would save the files, it would overwrite the original file. Sometimes I go back to the original file and cut out parts and use it for sound design or use other parts that I sell to other sound libraries. Always keep the original file because you never know if you need it someday.
Soundly provides a function for naming the files with UCS standard. Its easier. Just sayin... and as far as what I learned from UCS, file names should be short and categoryid etc is separated by an underscore.. but thx for the insights tho!:)
Hi Pille! Thank you for watching and yes that’s correct. Soundly just enrolled this feature yesterday and I check it out for sure since I’m a Soundly user and provider. You can find me inside the Add On section. Since I use Bandcamp I can’t have the files in a much shorter form because BC erased the metadata description. Also I’m personally not a fan of using underscores.
@@FreeToUseSounds Oh, I see. Yes, check it out. The feature helps big time. Not cool that bandcamp erases the description :/
@@peakTimeBln Oh yes that happens after upload. That’s the reason why I have my file names so long but Bandcamp is still awesome :)
Many thanks..., big help
Glad to hear that :)
Do you use Soundminer or some other software to organize your sound library?
Hi! I don't use Soundminer because of the Dongle. I use mainly Soundly.
@@FreeToUseSounds As my library grows, I started looking for a better way to manage and find the sounds I need. I am actually surprised someone has written an open-source product to do this. I have a problem with subscriptions for software I don't use everyday. :(
@@leelovetv I understand your point. If your library is not too big, you can use the free version. However, there is another free software available that can help you discover the right sound. I don't recall its name at the moment, but I'll try to remember it and let you know if it comes back to me.
@@FreeToUseSounds I will do some research and see what I can find. I am not opposed to paying for software, it is paying every month that bugs me. I believe this is part of the reason people are leaving Adobe for Blackmagic and Affinity products.
In what cases do you rec over 48khz sample rate ?
All cases. I never recorded that low because Im not the end user.
Thx fo sharing!
Pleasure!
Brilliant!
Useful as always :)
Glad to hear that!
Hey! Ich bin gerade total fasziniert von eurem Kanal und bin ein Video nach dem anderen am durchsuchten :-)
Ich mache schon seit 5 Jahren nebenbei immer mal wieder Field Recordings, welche ich aber bisher ausschließlich für meine eigenen Musikproduktionen benutzt habe.
Ich habe aber Bock das ganze auf ein neues Level zu heben und da kommt mir das Video hier gerade recht...
Ich habe aber eine Frage dazu: Wenn ich die Aufnahmen dann in die Ordnerstruktur einsortiere... Dann kann es ja so das nur in wenigen vereinzelten Ordnern überhaupt Files drin sind... Das wird dann ja bei so vielen Ordnern und Unterordnern zu einer Suche nach der Nadel im Heuhaufen... Also wenn ihr zu einem bestimmten Ort oder einer bestimmten Aufnahmetag ein Sound Pack macht... löscht ihr dann immer manuell alle Ordner in denen keine Files sind?
Freue mich darauf alle Videos auf dem Channel nachzuholen! Macht weiter so! Du bist super sympathisch!!!
Grüße aus Berlin!
Hallo Dennis! Super das Du uns gefunden hast. Richtig. Ich lösche die leeren Ordner normalerweise aber was ich nun in Zukunft mache ist das ich die UCS Liste auch als Ordner Referenz nehme und diese gar nicht mehr runterlade sondern einfach manuell erstelle und benenne. Da spart man sich die Arbeit mit dem löschen. :)
@@FreeToUseSounds Das ging schnell mit der Antwort! Danke! Werde ab heute anfangen, meine Aufnahmen nach dem System zu kategorisieren!
@@dennisshu1466 Super :) Mir hat es echt geholfen und es macht einfach mehr Spass nach system zu arbeiten.
@@FreeToUseSounds Wie ist denn die Lage mit eurem Podcast? Liegt der gerade auf Eis?
@@dennisshu1466 Oh ja dafür haben wir momentan leider keine Zeit aber das wird sich ändern.
Great work!
Thank you so much for watching!
great! thank you
Glad you liked it!
Great tutorial
Thank you Vagelis. We have another one coming up tonight.
Thank you
You're are so welcome! :)
It is beautiful and amazing
Thank you o much for watching!
Thank you! Very nice! :)
Glad you like it! :)
Hi! Sound Particles just released a free sound manager Explorer with the integrated UCS system! I think you'll like it)
Oh yes I heard about it last night. I'm downloading it next week.
Excellent video! I think it's hilarious that you have a folder dedicated to Farts. Hahahaha
Ha Ha Ha :) That is not from me. That is what the UCS category has as default in the folder structure :)
@@FreeToUseSounds hahaha. I soon realized that after posting. I just downloaded the same file structure last night. Thanks for the UCS tip!
@@sonicalchemyst you are so welcome :)
hmm all caps = unreadable ..., and long filenames ... well there is a cap of 255 characters on windows paths, so really not thought trough imo. short file names, with meta in the file should be the way to go or some database /excel with a hash...
Yes Windows has a character limit but you can shorten them with the good old Total Commander if needed. UCS is created by Tim Nielsen from Sky Walker Sound and many other high class sound designers. They know what they doing. Only the CAT ID is all caps and I have no problem reading these files in Soundly or Soundminer. Also, Soundly, Soundminer and Reaper already implemented UCS so I really don't understand what problem you have. If you don't use the file name for all tags and put these tags or keywords in the file description then you don't run into character limit issues.
@@FreeToUseSounds I must have misunderstood my apologies. If it is not common practice to use excessive long filenames with tags then yes. Ran into this issue the other day when downloading a large Library that half of the download was missing because it couldn't put it on disk. Had do do some python mojo to get it to work, really a waste of time. I wouldn't want this issue to get into a standardized system. Also clamping filenames is not good practice if you collab or merge libs, as this should be the strong point of this folder structure and would beat the purpose imo. ALL CAPS is good for titles that stand on there own, reading a file path straight on the explorer is already hard enough, getting all caps means more scrolling as they are larger and readability declines. Again If you use a program that makes it readable and it's a one time thing then yes fine, also from an IT point of view, I wouldn't recommend spaces in filenames, just my experience. I don't want to rant or anything, I think it's a good step in the right direction and love your content and effort for putting this out!
It's been awhile, but there is only one issue with your SFX libraries, too much words/letters in the filename!
So you cant import them into Soundminer properly... :/
BTW you can add your F6, mics, location etc, into metadata fields and not in the filename.
Otherwise, keep up the good work ;)
Hi! Oh yes that only happens if you are on Windows. The character limit ends at 250. If you shorten the files, they work again. Bandcamp also automatically added the library title in front of each file what makes the file longer. If I add the recorder, location within the metadata, this will be erased with Bandcamp. That is why I keep it in the filename.
@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks for your quick response, I'm on windows...
It's just an additionnal one step for me, but it's ok ;)
@@foxaudiofr Yeah on Mac, you don't have this problem. If you want check out the good old Total Commander. With that program you can rename files in a breeze. :)