I could listen to Michael ellis 24/7 and never get tired of learning from him. I've spent days and weeks on end binge watching his videos. Sometimes, it is the same video multiple times, and each time, I learn something new. He has a way of explaining things that many other trainers I listen to lack. Take Ivan Balabanov for instance, the man is a genius, especially with his outlook on play. But often I wish I could get inside his head and have Michael explain to me what he's trying to convey. Because I know it's something profound that I'm missing and so eager to learn. If I had the money I would take his course in a heartbeat. I know it would truly help me. And I'm not a professional trainer. I'm just a person with a dog who has behavioral issues, which in turn has ignited a passion for understanding and training dogs.
I feel exactly the same way. In particular Michael has a great way of explaining causes and effects, which other trainers often don’t do, and some of them frankly can’t do as well as he does it.
Excellent ! Thank you both so much for the reminder to let go of expectations/ plans of perfection etc..and play/observe/ get to know the dog in front of me and work from there! Its a thing we all “ know” but I can lose site of in the middle of it all ! So gentle reminders are good thing!
Such a wonderful interview! Thank you 🙏 I really cannot wait for the next parts ❤️😃 I loved hearing the whole conversation between both of you, you each have different ways of saying things which results in more clarity, actually. . I’ve described ‘training’ as learning about each other and learning how to communicate *clearly* with each other. (Each other = dog and human). This might be limiting? You say training /learning = putting life into context What exactly you mean by ‘context’? Is there an example of (short) situation you can describe that might reflect that meaning? Thanks 🙏
Putting life into context is highlighting the change of expected behaviors in various situations. You probably behave differently when you're at work speaking with clients vs outside of work interacting with friends etc You're different on vacation than in your day to day life. It's the same for dogs on a smaller scale but different behaviors are expected in different contexts. So training isn't limited to obedience but helping the dog to recognize the context and adopt behaviors that are suitable. Does that help?
As we can see Michael is at Ford k9...I see too much competition for clients or internet validation. But the bests are friends and share knowledge ... 🤘🏻🐺
Why LOL. I am an engineer of 41 years. I have patents and written papers. I so need to know why. I have worked with dogs for over 20 years, wolves before that. I always go to the papers, listen to outstanding trainers like Mr. Ellis and read the books. In search of why! However sometimes, we just cannot understand the why. We are not dogs. This is a great presentation. TY.
I am rewatching part 1 but I want to comment on part 2 .....IYDM (if you don't mind). Toward the end of part 2, Michael mentioned AN-THRO-PO-MOR-PHIZE ??? relating to dogs and how humans erroneously do that to some extent..... rightly or wrongly. BUT this is a thought about some of my experiences with dogs..... SOME DOGS ARE MORE EMOTIONALLY STABLE THAN SOME HUMANS AND SOME MOTHER DOGS ARE BETTER NURCHERERS THAN SOME HUMANS..... not to even mention some of their superior abilities like smell, sensing out people and danger .... and some with fantastic athletic abilities. I am just in awe of dogs...
Yes but dogs aren’t humans. We differ in many cognitive and mental aspects when we give a dog characteristics it doesn’t have but humans do. Then it’s anthropomorphic. That’s when it’s an issue. “He wants a friend” while it’s true dogs like company. It’s because they’re pack animals not because they want a “friend” though they also understand friends vs threats. It’s a primal primate thing. Not as we understand it ”friends”. For them it’s “you’re not gunna kill Me” for us it’s a whole social thing. Yes there are pack dynamics it’s basic behavior. Not the complex social dynamics we have constructed as humans. It’s not the same. Similar in many ways. Different characteristic. Anthropomorphic.
@@thomasmarchese2808 i choose to give dogs much more credit than you are expressing. Indeed, dogs are not humans, but you are not giving them due credit for the beings they are. Dogs can and do LOVE, people, some other dogs, some dogs are smart enough to save people from a fire that they smell.... a dog can and will protect a child being accosted and more. You think humans are so wonderfully evolved, don't be blind, HUMANS destroying the environment, humans committing suicided, humans killing humans, humans mistreating animals, humans hooked on drugs......... very evolved humans, indeed... maybe WW3 and nuclear Armageddon.......... dogs wouldn't even do these things..... they are more stable mentally.
a lot of balanced trainers seek for this unification, but it's the positive only /force free folks who think that they are superior and everything else is abuse
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Everything Michael Ellis says has value. My favourite dog trainer. Really humble and thoughtful guy, very valuable for both dogs and their humans.
I could listen to Michael ellis 24/7 and never get tired of learning from him. I've spent days and weeks on end binge watching his videos. Sometimes, it is the same video multiple times, and each time, I learn something new. He has a way of explaining things that many other trainers I listen to lack. Take Ivan Balabanov for instance, the man is a genius, especially with his outlook on play. But often I wish I could get inside his head and have Michael explain to me what he's trying to convey. Because I know it's something profound that I'm missing and so eager to learn. If I had the money I would take his course in a heartbeat. I know it would truly help me. And I'm not a professional trainer. I'm just a person with a dog who has behavioral issues, which in turn has ignited a passion for understanding and training dogs.
I feel exactly the same way. In particular Michael has a great way of explaining causes and effects, which other trainers often don’t do, and some of them frankly can’t do as well as he does it.
He is the best trainer and teacher!!❤❤❤
He sure is
Lovely video with two of the best professionals in the dog world. Thank you and looking forward to part 2!
Can’t wait for part 2. 🎉
It gets even better
Absolute best trainer … so much knowledge and so down to earth. Thanks for the great interview with Michael!
Great discussion by two professionals who respect one another.
Love michael ❤
Excellent discussion. Looking forward to part 2, and hopefully, parts 3, 4, 5..….…...
thanks!!!
Is Michael coming back to the channel
Thank you for this conversation, love Michael Ellis!
Glad you liked it
So surprised to find this podcast. Looking forward.
I'm glad you found it :)
Love this interview! I appreciate the deep dive!
Part 2 gets even better
Excellent ! Thank you both so much for the reminder to let go of expectations/ plans of perfection etc..and play/observe/ get to know the dog in front of me and work from there! Its a thing we all “ know” but I can lose site of in the middle of it all ! So gentle reminders are good thing!
Absolutely! We all get lost in our goals some times. But we can remind each other - the beauty of a wonderful community
I shared Micheal's study in biogeography.
Such a wonderful interview!
Thank you 🙏
I really cannot wait for the next parts ❤️😃
I loved hearing the whole conversation between both of you, you each have different ways of saying things which results in more clarity, actually. .
I’ve described ‘training’ as learning about each other and learning how to communicate *clearly* with each other. (Each other = dog and human).
This might be limiting?
You say training /learning = putting life into context
What exactly you mean by ‘context’?
Is there an example of (short) situation you can describe that might reflect that meaning?
Thanks 🙏
Putting life into context is highlighting the change of expected behaviors in various situations. You probably behave differently when you're at work speaking with clients vs outside of work interacting with friends etc You're different on vacation than in your day to day life. It's the same for dogs on a smaller scale but different behaviors are expected in different contexts. So training isn't limited to obedience but helping the dog to recognize the context and adopt behaviors that are suitable. Does that help?
Yes
Thanks 🙏
We still teach those various behaviors in different contexts, correct?
As we can see Michael is at Ford k9...I see too much competition for clients or internet validation. But the bests are friends and share knowledge ... 🤘🏻🐺
Michael is fantastic! The music in the background distracting.
Such a good interview. Encouraging !
Thank you!
Why LOL. I am an engineer of 41 years. I have patents and written papers. I so need to know why. I have worked with dogs for over 20 years, wolves before that. I always go to the papers, listen to outstanding trainers like Mr. Ellis and read the books. In search of why! However sometimes, we just cannot understand the why. We are not dogs. This is a great presentation. TY.
I am rewatching part 1 but I want to comment on part 2 .....IYDM (if you don't mind). Toward the end of part 2, Michael mentioned AN-THRO-PO-MOR-PHIZE ??? relating to dogs and how humans erroneously do that to some extent..... rightly or wrongly. BUT this is a thought about some of my experiences with dogs..... SOME DOGS ARE MORE EMOTIONALLY STABLE THAN SOME HUMANS AND SOME MOTHER DOGS ARE BETTER NURCHERERS THAN SOME HUMANS..... not to even mention some of their superior abilities like smell, sensing out people and danger .... and some with fantastic athletic abilities. I am just in awe of dogs...
Yes but dogs aren’t humans. We differ in many cognitive and mental aspects when we give a dog characteristics it doesn’t have but humans do. Then it’s anthropomorphic. That’s when it’s an issue. “He wants a friend” while it’s true dogs like company. It’s because they’re pack animals not because they want a “friend” though they also understand friends vs threats. It’s a primal primate thing. Not as we understand it ”friends”. For them it’s “you’re not gunna kill Me” for us it’s a whole social thing. Yes there are pack dynamics it’s basic behavior. Not the complex social dynamics we have constructed as humans. It’s not the same. Similar in many ways. Different characteristic. Anthropomorphic.
@@thomasmarchese2808 i choose to give dogs much more credit than you are expressing. Indeed, dogs are not humans, but you are not giving them due credit for the beings they are. Dogs can and do LOVE, people, some other dogs, some dogs are smart enough to save people from a fire that they smell.... a dog can and will protect a child being accosted and more. You think humans are so wonderfully evolved, don't be blind, HUMANS destroying the environment, humans committing suicided, humans killing humans, humans mistreating animals, humans hooked on drugs......... very evolved humans, indeed... maybe WW3 and nuclear Armageddon.......... dogs wouldn't even do these things..... they are more stable mentally.
Fantastic
Thanks
At 39 minutes the Mali enters the chat❤❤
I put this link on my TikTok. I think everybody should watch these great podcasts.
a lot of balanced trainers seek for this unification, but it's the positive only /force free folks who think that they are superior and everything else is abuse
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Promo sm
Boring. I tuned in to learn more about dogs.
You would have learned a lot if you were capable